PROVOST/PROFESSORS/TEENAGERS/DOGMA: Concerning that probation report!

THURSDAY, JUNE 23, 2016

Part 4—Lassettre disappeared:
How much of Brock Turner's story is actually true?

We can't really answer that question. Turner, who was quite drunk at the time, says he was given consent by Jane Doe, who was even drunker.

(The victim in this case has been variously referred to as Jane Doe and as Emily Doe. We'll use "Jane Doe" today.)

A jury convicted Turner of assault; presumably, they didn't accept his story. It's also true, on a legal basis, that a person who is black-out drunk pretty much can't give consent, not even to a college freshman who's almost equally drunk.

Turner's actions that night produced three criminal convictions. Having said that, we'll also say this:

When we read the endless news reports about events of this type, our thoughts often turn to the august provosts and presidents who preside over the drunken culture in which such assaults take place. We're struck by their role in this crackpot culture—this illegal crackpot culture, which has proven destructive and dangerous, in so many ways, to so many young people.

Frequently, we also think about the journalists who report and opine about these frequent, appalling events. For one example out of many, let's return to Leonard Pitts, who wrote a journalistically instructive column about the Stanford assault.

As we noted yesterday, Pitts is accomplished, intelligent, decent. That said, we think he showed bad judgment in the degree of fury he chose to direct at the local judge who had to deal with the latest outcome of the Stanford provost's illegal, crackpot culture.

We thought Pitts was over his skis in the degree of fury he aimed at that local judge. Journalistically, we think his judgment was especially poor when we consider the role of a second local official—a person Pitts disappeared from his account of the judge's decision.

We refer to Monica Lassettre, the local probation officer who provided sentencing recommendations to Aaron Persky, the widely reviled local judge.

Lassettre has sometimes been mentioned in news reports about this case. The New York Times did so just once, midway through this lengthy report by Thomas Fuller.

What is the role of the "probation officer" in a case like this? very few journalists have tried to explain this very basic point.

Fuller's text represents the only time that a New York Times reader learned that a female probation officer, whatever that is, recommended a slightly more lenient sentence than the one the widely-reviled local judge delivered. According to Nexis, this is the only time Lassettre's name has appeared in the glorious Times:
FULLER (6/13/16): The degree to which the inebriation of both Mr. Turner and the woman should have been a factor in sentencing was a central point of contention.

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. ''This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant's level of intoxication.''

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his ''sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,'' and his lack of a prior criminal record.

Alaleh Kianerci, the deputy district attorney who prosecuted the case, saw the woman's intoxication as a reason for a harsher sentence, and she urged the judge to impose six years. The fact that the victim was so intoxicated was an ''aggravating factor warranting a prison sentence,'' Ms. Kianerci wrote.
The prosecutor wanted a six-year sentence. The probation officer recommended four to six months in the county jail.

Persky's sentence landed on the high end of Lassettre's recommendation. For whatever reason, her name has appeared in the New York Times on just that one occasion. The very fact of her recommendation has been widely disappeared.

Who is Monica Lassettre and why is she doing these things? On a more elementary level, what's the role of the local "probation officer" in matters of this type?

Very few papers, the Times included, have bothered with that second question. Most papers have focused on disappearing Lassettre, thereby depriving readers of a basic fact:

There's someone else who could be receiving their furious threats! How fair is it when our nation's mob of know-it-alls threaten the judge alone?

In our view, Pitts authored a particularly inflammatory treatment of the local judge. We think he showed extremely poor judgment when he engaged in this conduct without mentioning this fact:

A second official who reviewed the case recommended a slightly more lenient sentence!

Why did Lassettre make that recommendation? To what extent might her recommendation, and Persky's decision, have been in line with previous sentences in similar cases, to the extent that such cases may be said to exist?

We don't know the answer to such questions, in part for an obvious reason. We've read the New York Times' accounts of this case. We've also read the inflammatory column by Pitts.

In accord with modern outrage culture, Pitts wanted his outraged readers to hang the disgraceful (male) judge. He skipped right past the (female) probation officer, whose recommendation the judge had adopted.

Why complicate the tale?

Across the press corps, across the nation, the usual gang of loudmouths and hacks began explaining Persky's motives in highly unflattering ways. According to Pitts, the judge had "compassion for the rapist" but lacked same "for the victim."

To our ear, that was a dangerous thing to say. Later, the godlike columnist said we "ought to do whatever you can to fix a culture that makes possible a Brock Turner—and an Aaron Persky."

To our ear, those were dangerous things to say. That said, Pitts helped his readers bathe in the glow of their glorious rage by disappearing the second official who saw the case the same way Persky did, for reasons Pitts simply skipped past.

Why did the female probation officer reach the same judgment as the male judge who was just a hack from Stanford who feels compassion for rapists? (Under terms of California law, Turner wasn't charged with rape.)

As a consumer of American "news," you don't have to ask! Our "journalists" will make the matter much, much simpler for you. All across our crackpot land, the very fact of her recommendation will be usefully disappeared.

This is the way the successors to our upper-end "press corps" now typically play the game. In accord with the values of modern culture, they help us bathe ourselves in our glorious outrage and in our glorious dogma.

As a general matter, this now-familiar standard practice hasn't worked especially well. Tomorrow, we'll touch upon a widely-cited, completely irrelevant fact.

Tomorrow: Days of dogma! Letters to the judge

47 comments:

  1. An unconscious person cannot, by law, give consent to sexual activity. Why is that so hard for Somerby to understand? She was so unconscious when the Swedish grad students found her that they checked to be sure she was breathing. She remained unconscious for several hours after arriving at the hospital. There is no "he said, she said" about these independently verified, witnessed FACTS. It doesn't matter whether she gave consent to anything before that.

    I am very tired of Somerby's attempts to use alcohol consumption to justify rape. A woman who becomes unconscious, whether through drinking, hitting her head on a rock, being roofied, having a medical condition inducing diabetic or epileptic or fainting (perhaps due to pregnancy) or who becomes unconscious through any other reason, should have the reasonable expectation that she will not be raped while she is unconscious.

    I don't care why this boy committed this crime. It is a crime and he deserves to go to jail for it. Treating it as less of a crime means that women are being treated as less important when it comes to their reasonable expectations of not being attacked. Any person should have that expectation, no matter how horny drunk teenage guys get. That they do not have that expectation arises because men think women's bodies are on this earth for their pleasure. To see this, ask yourself what pleasure that young man could have thought this woman would have gotten from sexual activity with him while unconscious. He was not thinking at all of her pleasure because men think women's bodies exist only for their own use. Under the best of circumstances, they don't think about or care what women feel. That's why the trolls here, and unfortunately Somerby too, don't really believe a crime was committed against this woman. That she might have consented while awake means she has no right to be left alone while unconscious -- repeat -- unconscious.

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    1. If anyone had bothered to teach this young man that women are people, the whole situation might have been avoided.

      When a man passes out at a party, his friends draw a penis on his face, take a photo and post it to the internet. When a woman passes out, she gets gang raped. Anyone see a disparity there?

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    2. "An unconscious person cannot, by law, give consent to sexual activity. Why is that so hard for Somerby to understand?"

      Somerby clearly does understand this.

      Somerby: "It's also true, on a legal basis, that a person who is black-out drunk pretty much can't give consent, not even to a college freshman who's almost equally drunk."

      I'm under the impression that you don't understand that up until the point when the Swedes found them there is no other account than Turner's. We don't know when she lost consciousness. We do know roughly when she "blacked out" or when she stopped remembering: a little bit after she and her friends went out to use the restroom in the bushes.

      The Swedes were not witness to the digital penetration. Turner freely admitted this and says she consented. Bob acknowledges he has incentive to lie about it and that the jury didn't believe him. Does that mean we know what happened up until the Swedes found them? No, the account is unreliable, but we don't know at what point it turned false. In Bob's words, we don't know "how much of Brock Turner's story is actually true."

      Ask yourself: How did they get to where they were found? Do you "know" the answer?

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    3. 12:51 - Do you get up in arms like this when people are sentenced to unfairly harsh terms? Your impassioned comments lead me to believe that you are just a lover of punishment (especially when brought down on an archetype), not so worried about the justice of an individual case.

      Aren't we in an era where over sentencing is the real problem? Many, many lives are ruined with three-strikes laws, and similar get-tough-on-crime attitudes.

      We need a more compassionate culture, and less heartfelt fury at evil.

      And please, he is guilty, is going to jail, and will be a felon all his life, so don't lash out with a "you're trying to dismiss his crime" bullsh1t.

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    4. inane rape: By saying, "to use the restroom in the bushes," do you mean that Ms Doe urinated in public? Is there evidence for this?

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    5. Yes I do mean that. There are several accounts of this happening in the police report.

      https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/1532973/complaint-brock-turner.pdf

      Victim account: Page 24, Pages 35/36
      Victim's sisters' account: page 37
      Friend's account: page 43

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    6. "Under the best of circumstances, [men] don't think about or care what women feel."

      It's sad -- of course, terribly tragic -- that you are so damaged that you believe this.

      But the fact remains: you are a loony.

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    7. "the rest of us"

      derp

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    8. I think "the rest of us" is correct.

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  2. Somerby does not seem to understand that there are only two types of people in the world. There are a) decent, compassionate people with integrity and morals, and there are b) rape apologists.

    There is no middle ground, no room for nuance or details, you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists.

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    1. The court papers and police reports depict an event that could be found virtually any weekend at any college — a fraternity party with free-flowing alcohol.

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  3. Looks like some are upset about "the female probation officer". Really bottom of the barrel comments here, which is nothing new. And you know the losers are losing when BOB becomes the subject/target. Bob, be careful, the House Democrats may have staged a SIT-IN for you since with the bottom of the barrel comments... I always say, DON'T shoot the messenger.

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  4. The judge is responsible for sentencing, not the probation officer, not the prosecution.

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    1. Yes, and isn't it a crying shame he's not one of those hangin' judges that always give long sentences.

      Anyway, greater punishment has been proven to be a very effective deterrent to future crime, right?

      We would be a whole lot safer if we locked up everybody who is evil. Don't worry, we'll use our largest scales.

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    2. 6 months for raping an unconscious woman, out in 3. That's not a fair sentence.

      You expect trolls to trivialize rape and other crimes. They have the dark triad of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy. They have a lot in common with their brother rapists.

      I thought better of Somerby, especially given his repeated pleas for empathy. Sorry to find he has so little empathy for women.

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    3. You don't have any empathy for the victim. You just want revenge in her name.

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  6. "In accord with modern outrage culture, Pitts wanted his outraged readers to hang the disgraceful (male) judge. He skipped right past the (female) probation officer, whose recommendation the judge had adopted....Why did the female probation officer reach the same judgment as the male judge...?"

    In this passage the probation officer embracing leniency for Turner is female, Somerby specifically said. He made a point of pointing this out, twice, although, in one way, we'd say that his statement is wrong.

    Was Monica Lassettre really female? Or is that part of an ancient error in vision and understanding? It all depends on how "identity" works, on where a person's "identity" comes from. On who gets seen as being different. On who gets to be us.

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  19. How I Got My Ex Husband Back...........

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  20. My husband and I have been together for almost 7 years, married for almost 4 years. We have a son that just turned 4. We got together and married young, I am 33 and he is 40. Over the years we have had many issues, including infidelity, a 6 month separation, and he said to me he wanted to get a divorce many times. I don’t necessarily have an issue getting over the past, it is his continued present behavior that keeps me wondering if he will ever change, ever mature, or be the husband and father I need him to be. he filed for divorce August 2014, but i refused to sign the papers coz i love him so much. I allowed the case to be dismissed, maybe to see if he will ever change. I have so many doubts and I am not sure which way to turn. I can not invest 100% into this marriage because I was so afraid to be disappointed all over again. I am afraid he has be cheating on me, I love him, but there are definitely no romantic feelings toward him, the feelings that made me fall in love with him in the first place. I felt so comfortable with him in my life, he makes me laugh, he’s playful, caring and attentive, on the other hand he has an anger problem, is negative, can be immature most of the time, argues with me constantly, and I don’t trust him. coz he use to cheat on me, i love my husband so much and also i want to save my marriage from divorce. so i cry to a friend of my, who told me to warp my tears, that there is a solution to my problem. so she introduce to me Dr happy a real spell caster that help to fight, stop marriage divorce and relationship problem also get ex back. so i give him a try and with-in 2day my problem with my husband was solve and ok, me and my husband and family and happily living great all thank to Dr happy you can reach him on happylovespell2@gmail.com or still call and Whats-pp him on +2348133873774 Thanks Sandra Katie from Usa California

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  21. My Names is Monique Curry ,AM from United states .i never believed in love spells or magic until i met this spell caster once when i went to Africa in June last year on a business summit i meet a man called Dr ADAGBA, is powerful he could help you cast a spells to bring back my love s gone misbehaving lover looking for some one to love you bring back lost money and magic money spell or spell for a good job i m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 4weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 7 year i really loved him, but his mother was against me and he had no good paying job so when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him at first i was undecided,skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try and in 6 days when i returned to taxes my boyfriend (is now my husband ) he called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married i didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid and my husband also got a new job and our lives became much better in case anyone needs the spell caster for some help his email address: adagbaspiritualtemple@gmail.com OR adagbaspiritualtemple@yahoo.com you can also call or whatsapp him via +2349057354407 or website;http://adagbaspiritualtem9.wixsite.com/mysite

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  22. what a wonderful world we are living, i still doubt this spell caster how he did it!!! i am Shechan Caroline am from Los Angeles I am so happy to let the whole word know how this powerful spell caster saved my marriage.Everything was going down the drain as my husband can not stop cheating on me with other women. It became used to always heating on me. I tried to make him stop, but I couldn't help the situation, the more I tried, the harder it becomes. At times we will fight and go apart for some months and we will come back again just because of our kids. One day a friend told me about this spell caster who helped her too, his name is Dr.oku, she said he uses white magic spells to solve spiritual problems. I decided to give it a try, I contacted him and he told me it will take just 2 to 3 days and I will see great changes in my husband. He actually cast a spell, believe me after 2 to 3 days of the spell, my husband was confessing different names of woman he has slept with. He begged for forgiveness and never to try it again. From that day till now, my mind is at rest. My husband dislike every other women on earth except me. And am so happy to have him for myself alone.The spell caster’s contact is okutemple@gmail.com or call him +2347053113465

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  24. Healing from HIV-AIDS, i never though dr.camala who could ever get my HIV-AIDS cured with his healing spell, i have tried almost everything but i couldn't find any solution on my disease, despite all these happening to me, i always spend alot to buy a HIV drugs from hospital and taking some several medications but no relieve, until one day i was just browsing on the internet when i come across a great post of !Michelle! who truly said that she was been diagnose with HIV and was healed that very week through the help of these great powerful healing spell doctor, sometime i really wonder why people called him Papa camala, i never knew it was all because of the great and perfect work that he has been doing that is causing all this. so i quickly contacted him, and he ask me some few questions and he said a thing i will never forget that anyone who contacted him is ! always getting his or her healing in just 6 hours after doing all he ask you, so i was amazed all the time i heard that from him, so i did all things only to see that at the very day which he said i will be healed, all the strength that has left me before rush back and i becomes very strong and healthy, this disease almost kills my life all because of me, so i will to hospital to give the final test to the disease and the doctor said i am HIV negative, i am very amazed and happy about the healing dr.camala gave to me from the ancient part of Africa, you can email him now for your own healing too at: dr.camalahivadscure@yahoo.com or WhatsApp him +2348164728160 thank you sir for healing me from HIV

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  25. God bless Dr.Edion for his marvelous work in my life, I was separate with my husband for the pass 3 year now and I wasn't satisfied i needed to get my husband back because the life of loneliness was so terrible for me and my 2 kids I searched about some possible spell caster that can bring back lover and i then come across Dr. Edion i saw a comment about Dr.Edion,how he bring lovers together with his spell caster I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my spell he ask for some information which i sent to him and also told some few things to do, after 48 hours my husband call me and start bagging me for forgiveness for all that happens i am so happy right now that we are back again as one family. If you have any problem or you are in the same situation right now and you don't know what to do or where to go, you can contact Dr. Edion today on ediontempl@gmail.com or you can call or whatsapp him on this : +2348165396275. he can help you out of that you situation.

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  26. Good day every one!
    My name is Mrs Rayna James am here to share with you my life
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  27. HOW DR FREEDOM RESTORE MY SEPRATED MARRIAGGE AND TODAY I AND MY HUSBAND AND THE KIDS ARE LIVING HAPPILY THAN EVER. YOU CAN EMAIL DR FREEDOM ON freedomspellcast@gmail.com 0R YOU CAN AS WELL CALL ON MESSAGE HIM ON whatsApp ON THIS NUMBER +2348070670337..... YOU CAN SEE MY TESTIMONY BELOW


    I want to offer a bit of advice to anyone looking for help on how to get your Ex lover back after a breakup or divorce! Dr freedoms is certainly the best spell caster, and his result is 100% guarantee. After 12years of marriage, me and my husband has been into several quarrels,one day he left me and moved to California to be with another woman. I felt my life was over and my kids thought they would never see their father again. i tried to be strong just for the kids but i could not control the pains that torments my heart, my heart was filled with sorrows and pains because i was really in love with may husband. Every day and night i think of him and always wish he would come back to me, I was really upset and i needed help, so i searched for help online and I came across a website that suggested that Dr Freedom can help get ex back fast. So, I felt I should give it a try. I contacted him and he told me what to do and i did all what he instructed me to do,i actually follow his leads and he did a (Love spell) for me.48 hours later, my husband really called me and told me that he miss me and the kids so much it all seems as a dream to me in the begaining when he called me but i realized that is all a reality not a dream,it was So Amazing!! So that was how he came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and he apologized for his mistake,and for the pain he had caused me and the kids over day time he have been away from home.Then from that day,our Marriage was now stronger than how it were before, All thanks to Dr Freedom. he is so powerful and i decided to share my story on the internet that Dr FREEDOM is real and powerful spell caster who i will always pray to live long to help his children in the time of trouble, if you are here and you need your Ex back or your husband moved to another woman, do not cry anymore,you can as well or Email him at: freedomspellcast@gmail.com you can also call him or add him on WhatsApp with this number +2348070670337, Dr Freedom is a father to all,contact him today for any relationship problem and consider the problm solve.

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  28. Save Your Relationship and Get Your Ex Boyfriend/Girlfriend Back! contact: MiracleSpellHome@yahoo.com is certainly the best spell caster online and his result is 100% guarantee    

    It's a privilege to share this miraculous testimonies to the world. I'm Cory Crow from Australia. My husband divorced me 4 months back and i have been filled with remorse for i didn't know what to do to amend issues with my husband. I searched for help on the internet on how i could get help in my marriage and i discovered great testifiers about Dr miracle who has been progressive with his spells. I got in touch with him and behold, Dr Miracle told me that he will prepare a spell for me that will bring back my husband. I was skeptical but i had no other option but to work with him. 2 days after, my husband called me that he's coming back home and from that day till this moment, we have been living peacefully. He is back now with so much love and caring. today i am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the powers of bring lovers back. because i am now happy with my husband,and the most surprise,is that our love is very strong,every day is happiness and joy. and there is nothing like been with the man you love. I will highly recommend Dr Miracle to anyone one out there who needs help whatsoever.if you have any problem contact Dr Miracle, i give you 100% guarantee that he will help you!!.
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