Kessler (and Drum) fact-check Kellyanne!

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2017

Pinocchios all around:
Especially at the top, the Trump administration is full of people who may perhaps seem "unwell."

We'd place Bannon, Flynn and Trump himself at the top of that pile. We'd also look to Kellyanne Conway, who has furiously done it again.

As the leading authority skillfully tells us, Conway "is an American political activist currently serving as Counselor to President Donald [J.] Trump." In that role, she has demonstrated at least three major skills:

She has demonstrated 1) the ability to avoid responding to any question at all, and 2) the ability to reply to any question about her boss by immediately discussing the acts of someone else.

Most significantly, she had demonstrated 3) the ability to Take Offense at Any Word That Has Ever Been Spoken by Any Person On the Face of the Earth.

In this grievance-spewing role, Conway appeared on Wednesday evening's Hardball. She spoke with Chris Matthews, who isn't inclined to criticize someone whose first name includes the word "Kelly."

At the end of the interview, Matthews praised Conway for what he called her "brilliant counterattacks." Earlier, though, she had done it again! Earlier, she had said this:
CONWAY (2/2/17): Two Iraqis came here to this country, were radicalized, and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre. Most people didn’t know that because it didn’t get covered.
Matthews didn't challenge any part of that statement. We can't say that he can fairly be blamed him for that.

That said, Conway's statement was riddled with errors. At least one of her errors actually cut against her own team's basic frameworks.

By now, Conway has been widely assailed for (some of) the misstatements in that passage. Let's consider the fact-check performed by the Washington Post's Glenn Kessler, who left that passage in shreds but failed to assign any Pinocchios to the president's angriest flack.

On the whole, Kessler gives a reasonably decent account of Conway's error-riddled statement. For starters, he notes that there is, and was, no such thing as "the Bowling Green massacre," an obvious point to which Conway has actually acceded.

Kessler provides the basic facts about the incident in question at Bowling Green, Kentucky—an incident which didn't involve a "massacre" or any deaths at all. That said, the incident did involve the arrest of two Iraqis, each of whom later pled guilty to federal terrorism charges. Each of the men had been involved in attacks on Americans forces when they still lived in Iraq.

If you want to review the basic facts, we'll recommend Kessler's piece. That said, Kessler made some slightly strange decisions in the course of his fact-check. Just to establish the record, this is his nugget assessment:
KESSLER (2/3/17): In defending President Trump’s executive order temporarily banning refugees, immigrants and citizens from Iraq and six other Muslim-majority countries, Conway referred to something that didn’t happen—the “Bowling Green massacre.” (She also incorrectly said that President Barack Obama “banned” Iraqi refugees, which we have previously fact-checked as false.)

Conway was on her way to a Four-Pinocchio rating when, about an hour and a half after The Fact Checker sent her a query about her remarks, she tweeted that she meant to say “Bowling Green terrorists.”
Oops! Kessler identifies two major misstatements by Conway. He also says that Conway tweeted a claim about what she meant to say.

Conway's tweet makes it sound like she made an honest mistake. We'd say that's one of the possibilities, but Kessler vouches for this unverifiable claim at several points in his fact-check. At one point, he goes beyond what Conway tweeted, identifying the actual "'massacre' that Conway was referring to."

Why would a fact-checker do such a thing? We have no idea. Kessler also makes this peculiar statement about the actual events in Bowling Green:

"Although Conway claimed that the media did not cover the story, the arrests caused an uproar in Congress."

As you can see, the second part of Kessler's statement doesn't relate to the first. The fact that the arrest "caused an uproar in Congress" doesn't speak to Conway's claim about a lack of press coverage.

In fact, there was zero coverage of the massacre, because no such event occurred. But there were two arrests and two guilty pleas, and if we want to tell the whole story, those arrests and pleas don't seem to have gotten a lot of coverage from the Washington Post or the New York Times.

As best we can tell from the Nexis archive, the Post and the Times barely mentioned the arrests of the two Iraqis and the later guilty pleas. If we want to tell the full story, we'll at least give Conway that.

That said, Kessler's construction failed to address Conway's claim about the lack of coverage. It also led us away from any questions we might have about his own newspaper's performance.

On the whole, we'd give Kessler some semi-Pinocchios for the way he treated Conway's performance. In his strangest decision, he seemed to vouch for Conway's good faith, although he had no apparent basis for doing so.

Beyond that, he avoided granting Pinocchios without explaining why he did so. A cynic could even suspect that he fudged one part of his fact-check in service to his own paper.

If we were inclined to hand out stickers, we'd be inclined to grant some semi-Pinocchios here. But we'd also have to grant some stickers to Kevin Drum, who took an equal-but-opposite flawed approach to Conway's error-strewn effort.

What have they done with the real Kevin Drum? In his own furious, snark-heavy post, Drum asserts that Conway didn't make an honest mistake in her error-strewn recitation.

"Do not for a second think that this wasn't deliberate," Drum says. Where Kessler leaps to vouch for Conway's good faith, Drum leaps in the other direction.

Losers, can we talk? This is precisely the type of assertion that Fox bats away in its sleep. Even the slowest performers at Fox could handle Drum's unfounded claim. As they did, they'd tell Fox viewers that they shouldn't believe a single word a fellow like Drum ever says.

It's plain that Conway made several misstatements on Hardball. Is it possible that her misstatements were made in some type of good faith? That she actually bungled the giant pile of index cards which are constantly fluttering around inside her grievance-fueled head?

In our view, she may have known that she was misstating; it's possible that she didn't. In part, we say that because one of her misstatements on Hardball tends to cut against her own side. Once again, here's what she said:

"Two Iraqis came here to this country, were radicalized, and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre. Most people didn’t know that because it didn’t get covered."

In fact, the Iraqis in question were already active, radicalized operatives before they entered the U.S., in at least one case on a refugee visa. Their entry into the country was, in fact, a breakdown in vetting procedures.

Recognizing this fact, the Obama administration took steps to re-examine those procedures. But Conway's misstatement of the chronology tends to cut against the way her team wants us to think about the dangers which inevitably adhere to the practice of admitting any refugees at all.

As with any other procedure, there will always be the possibility of errors in vetting. Conway's error in chronology actually directs our attention away from this wonderfully frightening fact.

Kessler vouches for Conway's good faith; Drum insists on the opposite judgment. In truth, neither fellow can defend his claim. Drum's claim, though highly pleasing, is precisely the type of claim Fox stars bat away in their sleep.

Over Here within Our Own Tents, it feels good to gobble the porridge Drum served in this instance. That porridge left us with two questions, though:

What have they done with the real Kevin Drum? And who have they put in his place?

We'd also tag Kessler for this: Kessler goes too easy on Conway in one other respect. We refer to the trademark acts of misdirection she committed in the course of acknowledging her basic misstatement.

No one misdirects quite the way Conway does! Consider this puzzling tweet by Conway, which Kessler quotes but glosses:

"Honest mistakes abound. Last night, prominent editor of liberal site apologized for almost running a story re: tweet from fake account."

This tweet advances Conway's claim that she made an "honest mistake." In the course of making that claim, she behaves in Trademark Conway Fashion, calling attention to something some "prominent liberal" allegedly did.

This qualifies as a definitive act of Look-Over-There Conwayism. That said, does this tweet even make sense?

To us, it pretty much doesn't. Why would someone "apologize" for an error he or she "almost" committed? This is a classic Conway play. Inevitably, it doesn't make sense.

Might we make one final point? In his own post, Drum mocks Matthews for failing to correct Conway's misstatements on the fly, in real time.

We're sorry, but that doesn't make much sense either. Big cable stars should know many facts. They can't know every one.

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  2. Kellyanne is unwell because she says things deeply offensive to Democrats. She also raised eyebrows by referencing a phony "massacre." We should overlook someone who accidentally offers a firsthand account of being attacked by snipers in Bosnia but not one who misreferences one of many incidents involving radical Islam in America.

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    1. "who accidentally offers a firsthand account of being attacked by snipers in Bosnia"

      This was an honest mistake, but don't let it interfere with your hatred.

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    2. Hillary Clinton lost the election and has vanished from the public eye. You don't get to excuse Trump by pointing at her any more.

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    3. It was an honest mistake. I can't tell you how many times I mistakenly tell someone I needed to seek cover from sniper fire.

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    4. No, Kellyanne is unwell because she says things deeply offensive to sane people all over the world.

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    5. It was an honest mistake. I can't tell you how many times I mistakenly tell someone I needed to seek cover from sniper fire.

      Well if you did someone needs to throw a net around you and lock you in a padded cell. The former Secretary of State on the other hand did indeed fly into a dangerous airport in Bosnia.


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      "I was on the plane with then First Lady Hillary Clinton for the trip from Germany into Bosnia in 1996. We were put on a C-17 — a plane capable of steep ascents and descents — precisely because we were flying into what was considered a combat zone. We were issued flak jackets for the final leg because of possible sniper fire near Tuzla. As an additional precaution, the First Lady and Chelsea were moved to the armored cockpit for the descent into Tuzla. We were told that a welcoming ceremony on the tarmac might be canceled because of sniper fire in the hills surrounding the air strip. From Tuzla, Hillary flew to two outposts in Bosnia with gunships escorting her helicopter."
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    6. Steve, Jews said things deeply offensive to perfectly sane Nazis. Being offended and sane is not a test of another's mental health.

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  3. Kellyanne has discovered a sad truth. The TV audience is fairly ignorant and the public are more so. So, making statements with conviction works equally well, whether her facts are accurate or inaccurate. That's why it's better to read intelligent, honest bloggers than to watch TV. The best of the bloggers have the time and inclination to get their facts straight.

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    1. Translation:

      David is cool with the administration fucking lying, cause it works.

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    2. mm, my comment said that this situation is "sad" not that I was OK with it.

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    3. mm -- that's only part of it. It's that every Administration and every politician can do well by speaking firmly and with certainty, if they choose to, because most of the media and msot of the public don't know enough to see through the false statements. Obama aide Ben Rhodes boasted in the New York Times Sunday Magazine about how he sold the Iran treaty through through creative spin and manipulation of the press.

      I guess one could debate whether Rhodes or Conway is the more skilled liar. But, as I said, it's a sad situation that these people speak for their President and help develop policy and sell it to the public.

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    4. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/let-us-now-psychoanalyze-young-ben-rhodes

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    5. I guess one could debate whether Rhodes or Conway is the more skilled liar.

      Only if you are a dishonest trolling weasel trying to avoid the obvious fact that you voted for Caligula.

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    6. David, even the extremely conservative SNL has turned to mocking this administration's deliberate and repeated lies.

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    7. mm, I doubt if there is a single Republican affiliated with SNL. But, aside from the adjective and adverb, I agree that anti-Trump people have turned supposed lying into the the characteristic about which the Trump Administration can be mocked. This is parallel to the way they mocked the supposed dumbness of Presidents Bush and Ford.

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    8. The two Bowling Green suspects were arrested in May, 2011. The FBI had pretended to help the men supply weapons and cash to al-Qaida. One of them had been engaged in the sting operation for 20 months. The FBI released little information, claiming the men were charged in a sealed indictment.
      http://www.bgdailynews.com/news/terrorism-arrests-in-bowling-green-case-shows-gaps-in-screening/article_b14f322b-39dd-56ae-a694-133be58cc4cf.html
      FWIW. As Bob (and Conway) pointed out, there was not a lot of coverage in the MSM.
      This arrest occurred after the assassination of Osama bin Laden on May 2.
      That story was still in the news, and stories of terrorist’s revenge attacks were still in the news.
      These events, plus stories about who watched the assassination in the White House Situation Room could certainly upstage a report on the dog that didn’t bite.

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    9. They're mocked because they lie, constantly, unashamedly, knowingly and with unabashed contempt for the American people.

      to date, Politifact scorecard:

      For the Bastard President: a total of 69% False, Mostly False or Pants on Fire False

      For Sean Spicer a whopping 83%

      And the grand prize, for Sugarlips Conway:
      100% of her statements checked by Politifact were False, Mostly False or Pants on Fire False.

      That's quite a crew you voted for. You must be so proud, Traitor.

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    10. Mm, you seem in need of a relaxing vacation.

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    11. My, my. It seems there's a third possibility as to why Kellyanne Conway referred to "the Bowling Green Massacre." One is that she was lying, two is that she misspoke and meant to say "terrorists" instead of "massacre," but now as a third possibility emerges the second one no longer seems at all credible. Perhaps Conway was confused on the issue and, instead of understanding that the two men were arrested before they attacked in the U.S., she thought their arrests came after they had attacked and killed soldiers in Kentucky. [LINK]

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    12. It's hard to keep track of all the Islamist terror. The number of Americans slaughtered keeps growing.

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  4. But simply note that one cannot "correct" the statement that two Iraqis were the "masterminds" behind the Bowling Green "massacre" by asserting one meant to say they were the masterminds "behind" the "Bowling Green terrorists"...The "masterminds" were the "terrorists".

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  5. 'In our view, she may have known that she was misstating; it's possible that she didn't."

    The word "massacre" is too absolute for it to be a mistake. Then she accused the media for not reporting her fabrication.

    This sounds to me like an attempt to create another "Benghazi" for the rubes to beat the drums about.

    Two embarrassments now: this idiocy and the "alternative facts" nonsense.

    Credibility shot. The girl who cried wolf....

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    1. Re; Benghazi
      I'm with DinC on that one. Congressional Republicans didn't deny American foreign outposts (like Benghazi) the additional security funding requested because Congressional Republicans are evil. They simply did it because at the time they were in the midst of making believe the richest country in the history of mankind was broke, so they could hamstring the Obama Presidency. Nothing evil, just the GOP standard of putting party before country.

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  6. It takes a low level of critical thinking ability to actually believe Conway would intentionally invent a "massacre" on a nationally broadcast interview thinking it would not receive any attention, particularly in this era.

    I really believe Trump Derangement Syndrome is costing sufferers at least a dozen IQ point a week.

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    1. You don't seem to understand the concept of fake news.

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    2. There is Trump Derangement Syndrome and also Trump Derangement at work here.

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    3. When the Democrats abuse the power of their office to launch continuous fraudulent investigations of Trump spanning 3 decades, maybe then you can appropriate the "derangement syndrome" label against them, but until then it so false as to be laughable. The illness recognized as Clinton Derangement Syndrome took decades to recognize.

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    4. Voting for a judge and then voting against the same judge is a clear symptom. Democrats are begging for investigations into Trump and Russia and "election hacking" but they don't want investigations into illegals voting, which actually does affect elections. They are terrible.

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    5. Dave the Guitar PlayerFebruary 9, 2017 at 1:14 PM

      Anon 4:51 - You apparently do no understand the difference between having evidence of election hacking by Russians and wanting an investigation and having an investigation of voter fraud when there is no credible evidence. All sorts of things "might" affect elections, but we should start by investigating the ones where we already have the evidence that they exist.

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  7. For Fox viewers, what statement couldn't be "batted away"? And with that crowd, who cares if it is? They will never, ever, be on our side anyway.

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    1. Some of us are on your side on many fronts, but you keep moving the center point on important issues, throwing your R bombs over every disagreement, maligning police officers, and so we find ourselves sympathizing more with the right.

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  8. I find Kevin Drum's defense against Somerby's criticism more convincing than Somerby's arguments.

    I am put off every time Somerby claims that calling out lies is "pleasing" to liberals. The rancor between liberals and conservatives isn't pleasing to me. It is upsetting. Conflict makes me feel anxious and queasy. The idea that we cannot run our government without not just bickering but outright war worries me that our democracy will fail and we will live in a country descending into the chaos of 1930's Germany or some banana republic. I don't hate conservatives or find it "pleasing" when they are maligned. I hate what our nation has become and those who have made it this way for their own gain, whether financial or in pursuit of power.

    Somerby should understand that about liberals and stop maligning us.

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    1. And the irony is that yes, there are the extremes on both sides, but most voters are independents now, and do not align with either. Yet the polar extremes define the debate. Mostly the left which doesn't seem to understand our foundations and now fights against free speech. When a group fails to understand the importance of every word of the First Amendment and thinks we would be better off with "hate speech laws" and the like, we have a problem.

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    2. There is no God, and there never was.

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  10. You know, there used to be a joke about the the Middle East.

    There are three things wrong with the Middle East: bakshish (bribery), maalish (a sort of it's too hot, I'll do it tomorrow thing) and British.

    But I would like to bring that up to date. The first problem of the U.S. is Irish.

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  11. Uncle Drum's commentariat contains a number of former Howler reader's which seems larger than the number of current Howler reader's who comment here on a regular basis.

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  12. It is being pointed out today that Ms. Conway had earlier referenced the atrocities of the Bowling Green Massacre before the Hardball appearance. Geez Bob, maybe she ain't a liar, but she sure is brazen! So let's give her points for that.

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  13. Ugh. Drum pointed out that Conway did not, as She claims, misspeak. Substituting the word She claims She meant over the one She used leaves a statement that makes no sense. We now know She has pimped the Massacre line before and gotten away with it. What a trite, mean, pitiful performance from Somerby.

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    Hi everyone,I'm Gary Fisher by name and i will love to share my testimony to everyone on this forum!because i never taught my girlfriend will ever come back to me. for no reason she left me 4 weeks to our weeding for another man.she never returned any of my calls,deleted and blocked me on her Facebook. she changed her Facebook status from married to Single and moved out of her apartment. when i went to her place of work,she told her boss that she never want to see me and that left heartbroken...i lost my job as a result of this because i cant get myself anymore,my life was upside down and everything did not go smooth with my life…I tried all i could do to have her back but none worked out until i met a Man whom i Traveled back from Africa with to the states,while returning form my self Holiday of trying to get over her. we sat close to each other as we were chatting about relationship,I told him my problem and all have passed through in getting her back and how i lost my job…he told me he will help me…i don’t believe that in the first,but he swore he will help me out and he told me the reason why my girlfriend left me and also told me some hidden secrets.i was amazed when he said he will cast a spell for me and i will see the results in the next couple of days..the following day i called him when i got home and will made arrangements after which he bought all the materials needed for the spells,he said am gonna see positive results in the next 2 days that is Thursday… My girlfriend called me at exactly 12:41am on Thursday and apologies for all she had done..she said,she never knew what she’s doing and her sudden behavior was not intentional,she promised not to do that again.it was like am dreaming when i heard that from her and when we ended the call,i called the man and told him my wife called and he said i haven’t seen anything yet… he said i will also get my job back in 3 days time..and when its Sunday,they called me at my place of work that i should resume working on Monday and they gonna compensate me for the time limit have spent at home without working..My life is back into shape,i have my girlfriend back and we are happily married now with kid and i have my job back too.This man is really powerful..if we have up to 20 people like him in the world,the world would have been a better place..he has also helped many of my friends to solve many problems and they are all happy now..Am posting this to the forum for anybody that is interested in meeting this great man for help.you can email him on: aliherbalmagic@gmail.com OR Text and call me on +1561-231-9522.

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  17. Hello, I am Theresa Williams After being in relationship with Anderson for years, he broke up with me, I did everything possible to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so much because of the love I have for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to my friend and she suggested that I should rather contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back but I am the type that never believed in spell, I had no choice than to try it, I mailed the spell caster, and he told me there was no problem that everything will be okay before three days, that my ex will return to me before three days, he cast the spell and surprisingly in the second day, it was around 4 pm. My ex called me, I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that he was so sorry for everything that happened that he wanted me to return to him, that he loves me so much. I was so happy and went to him that was how we started living together happily again. Since then, I have made promise that anybody I know that have a relationship problem, I would be of help to such person by referring him or her to the only real and powerful spell caster who helped me with my own problem. email: drogunduspellcaster@gmail.com you can email him if you need his assistance in your relationship or any other Case.

    1) Love Spells
    2) Lost Love Spells
    3) Divorce Spells
    4) Marriage Spells
    5) Binding Spell.
    6) Breakup Spells
    7) Banish a past Lover
    8.) You want to be promoted in your office/ Lottery spell
    9) want to satisfy your lover
    Contact this great man if you are having any problem for a lasting solution
    through drogunduspellcaster@gmail.com

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  18. Dr.Agbazara Your spell worked and brought my husband back to me. You gave me support when I was feeling hopeless. I feel truly blessed to have found your email address. I sincerely hope others will take that leap of faith and let you help them as you have helped me.for those of you who want to contact him reach him on his email address: ( agbazara@gmail.com ) OR WHATSAPP +2348104102662 you will never regret contacting him… He is capable of restoring your relationship and marriage problems like he did for me.

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  19. Hey...... My name is Angela Fox, I have been living with HIV/AIDS

    for the past 5 YEARS. i will forever be thankful to God for using Dr Akhigbe to

    heal me when i thought it's all over, today i'm happy with my family after i'm

    confirmed HIV Negative from my Doctor, i have never believed that i can be cure

    from HIV/AIDS. I want to use this opportunity to reach others who have this disease

    by testifying the powerful herbs of Doctor Akhigbe sent to me, contact him through

    his email akhigbespellhome@gmail.com he also have herbal cure Hepatitis B and C

    with Penis Enlargement Cream you can email him via his email

    akhigbespellhome@gmail.com or email me angelafox333@gmail.com for more information about doctor

    akhigbe all thanks to you once again Doctor Akhigbe

    DOCTOR Akhigbe CAN AS WELL CURE THE FOLLOWING DISEASE:-

    1. HIV/AIDS
    2. HERPES
    3. CANCER
    4. ALS
    5. Hepatitis B
    6. Diabetes
    7. Weak erection
    8. Penis Enlargement

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  20. Hey...... My name is Angela Fox, I have been living with HIV/AIDS

    for the past 5 YEARS. i will forever be thankful to God for using Dr Akhigbe to

    heal me when i thought it's all over, today i'm happy with my family after i'm

    confirmed HIV Negative from my Doctor, i have never believed that i can be cure

    from HIV/AIDS. I want to use this opportunity to reach others who have this disease

    by testifying the powerful herbs of Doctor Akhigbe sent to me, contact him through

    his email akhigbespellhome@gmail.com he also have herbal cure Hepatitis B and C

    with Penis Enlargement Cream you can email him via his email

    akhigbespellhome@gmail.com or email me angelafox333@gmail.com for more information about doctor

    akhigbe all thanks to you once again Doctor Akhigbe

    DOCTOR Akhigbe CAN AS WELL CURE THE FOLLOWING DISEASE:-

    1. HIV/AIDS
    2. HERPES
    3. CANCER
    4. ALS
    5. Hepatitis B
    6. Diabetes
    7. Weak erection
    8. Penis Enlargement

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  21. him back but its seems so so difficult because he was already inlove with the other woman. he warned me never to call his phones again, even when i do the woman picks and insult me. she called me all sort of names, so i decided to let be. just few weeks ago, i met a good friend of mine walkin with her husband, i felt jealous, i greeted her and we both had a chat, so she introduced me to someone who helped her to get her man back, and that she had a similar case. she introduced me to Dr. Uzor, and asked me to contact him online on: uzorspelltemple@gmail.com, which i did. the great Dr. Uzor assured me that in seven days, he will come begging. exactly the seventh day, he packed back home, with tears in his eyes, that he was blind folded spiritually. now we are having the best family happines anyone could ever imagine. thanks to Dr. Uzor. you can also contact him for any form of probles you wish to solve. reach him on; {uzorspelltemple@gmail.com}or you can visit him on website: (www.uzorspelltemple.webs.com )

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  22. My name is Richard Adam I'm from UK I want to share my testimony with everyone of how a great and powerful VOODOO priest named DR OGUDUGU helped me get my wife who left me for another man i was frustrated and one day i saw his email online and i quickly emailed him and he said that i should put my total trust in him that my ex will come back so a day later my ex came back and now we are living happily together thank to DR OGUDUGU he is the best spell caster online if you are in need of help here WhatsApp him +2348055304321 or email him at GREATOGUDUGU@GMAIL.COM

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  23. My mouth is full of testimonies, Am Mrs Susan Morgan. my husband left home for two years to south Africa for a tourist, where he meant this Lady and he was bewitch by the girl my husband refuse to come back home again, i cry day and night looking for who to help me, i read a news paper about a powerful spell caster called DR Ekpiku and i contacted the spell caster to help me get my lover back to me and he ask me not to worry about it that the gods we fight for me.. he told me by mid-night when all the spirit is at rest he will cast a spell to reunite my lover back to me. and he did in less than 3 days my husband came back to me and started crying that i should forgive him, i,m so happy for what this spell caster did for me and my husband..email: Ekpikuspelltemple@live.com
    (1)If you want your ex back.
    (2) if you always have bad dreams.
    (3)if You want to be promoted in your office.or if you have a place to work and you need help
    (5)If you want a child.
    (6)[You want to be rich.

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  24. My name Paul, from USA, i am 45 years old, i started experiencing weak erection

    and premature ejaculation for the past 6 years, for this reason i have to separate from my

    wife because i wasn't satisfying her in bed and we always had issues every now and then, i

    tries to search for a solution i could not find, i went various hospital but all was up to

    no avail, so luckily for me i came across a man named GREAT OLA , i contacted him through

    his email:drolaspelltemple1@gmail.com ,whatssap +2348106431263 So i told him what has been going on with me and he

    said he could help me, i thought it was joke, so i gave him a try and to God who made me,

    he cured me with his medication, he made me a full man again, i was so active, i can now

    perform stronger and better than before, i got my wife back again, his product has no side

    effect. he cast the spell ask follows:
    Low sperm count
    Love spell
    Herpes spell
    HIV spell
    Pregnancy spell
    Marriage for spell
    cancer
    watering sperm
    womb fertilization
    penis erection
    witch craft attack
    s t d diseases
    internal heat
    rashes
    low sperm count
    dairy
    long time sickness
    kidney,heart,lungs,problem
    with GREAT OLA you are in safe hands your healing is assur
    Email:drolaspelltemple1@gmail.com , whatssap +2348106431263
    you can contact him also for any kind of disease
    hiv/aids
    cardiac problem

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  25. My Name Lisa Ray, i want to thank Dr Madu for the spell he did for me after i lost my husband to another lady at his working place, Dr Madu cast a love spell for me and in 2 days my husband returned home to me and my kids with so much love,if you need his help!! You can contact him via email: maduutemple@gmail.com or add him on whats-app +2349038103368.

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  26. Life is good when you have your love ones around you, I am saying this because when i had issues with my lover i never seen life as a good thing but thanks to Dr. AGBAZARA of AGBAZARA TEMPLE, for helping me to cast a spell that brought my lover back to me within the space of 48hours. My husband left me for another woman after 7YEARS of marriage,but Dr.AGBAZARA help me cast a spell that brought him back to me within 48hours. I am not going to tell you more details about myself rather i will only advise those who are having issues in there relationship or marriages to contact Dr.AGBAZARA TEMPLE through these details via; ( agbazara@gmail.com) or call him on WHATSAPP: +2348104102662?

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  27. people Join me as i share the wonderful work of Dr Alade how he cured my HIV AIDS Disease, that almost took my life, i have lived with this disease and did all i could be cured but no way.i have been searching out on a cure to terminate my HIV AIDS and on my search i found Dr Alade help on the lives of many people . and after i wrote to him on how to get a cure, he directed me on the steps and he prepared my herbal medicine and after he sent it to me that after using it, i will be cured, and that was how he sent me my medicine and after using it for some days i was found negative by my test result. why not contact him today on his email: draladeherbaltemple@gmail.com and he can still cured..HERPES,HEPATITIS B,CANCER,DIABETICS, his email via draladeherbaltemple@gmail.com whatsapp number +2349078275990

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  28. MY Hepatitis B WAS CURED WITH NATURAL HERBS BY DR UDURO IN 14 DAYS

    I want to appreciate Dr Uduro for using his herbal medicine to cure me from Hepatitis B virus, 3 years ago, i have been having this Hepatitis B disease and it has been giving my family challenges,we were so perplexed cause i have taken several drugs to be cured but every of our effort was in vain,one morning i was browsing through the internet then i saw several testimonies about Dr Uduro curing people of their Hepatitis B disease and immediately i contacted Dr Uduro on his email: drudurohaberahome@gmail.com told him about my troubles and he told me that i must be cured, so he prepared a herbal medicine for me which i used for 2 weeks and everything was like a dream for my family, right now,my Hepatitis B disease was totally gone,why don't you contact him today and be free from your disease... His email is, drudurohaberahome@gmail.com or call him on Mobile +2348138634433,

    DOCTOR UDURO CAN AS WELL CURE THE FOLLOWING DISEASE:

    1,HIV/AIDS 2. HERPES 3. CANCER 4. ALS(Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis) 5. herpes virus 6. Diabetes 1,2, 7.DIARRHEA. 8.KIDNEY FAILURE 9.LIVER DISORDER 10.HIRE BLOOD PRESSURES HE CAN ALSO BRING BACK YOUR EX LOVER BOY, GIRL,HUSBAND,WIFE,IN ALL TO HAVE A HAPPY FAMILY.
    THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO READ THROUGH.......

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  29. I never use to believe in power of ROOTS an HERBS until i met Dr Erediawa Okoh a powerful Herbalist who gave me live again. My name is Doris Pat, i reside in Texas here in USA. After 3 years of Broken marriage, my husband left me with two kids. All because i was HEPATITIS B, I felt like my life was about to end and i almost committed suicide, i was emotionally down for a very long time. Thanks to a Great DR called Dr Erediawa who i met online on one faithful day when I was browsing through the internet, i came across a lot of testimonies about this particular Great Haberlist, how he has helped so many people. He has helped people to bring back their EX and cure so many disease, some testified that he restores womb, cure cancer and other sickness, and so on. I also came across a testimony, it was about a woman called Helen Grant, he testified about how his Root an HERBS, made her to be pregnant after so many years of bareness and at the end of her testimony she dropped Dr Erediawa Okoh email address via:drerediawaherbs@gmail.com. After reading all these, i decided to give it a try and i contacted him and explained my problem to him and he assured me that in less than 3 months, i will get cure an my husband will call me and beg for forgiveness but i thought it will not work.He told me the items that will be used to prepared the Roots an Herbs, When he had finished the preparation of the Roots the next 3 days he sent it to my door step an follow the directive in the next 2 months i stared seeing changings an behold i went for test i was negative feel of Hepatitis an my husband called me and he was begging for forgiveness just as Dr Erediawa has said, on this note i said there is every reason to share this testimony. Dr Erediawa Okoh is really a gifted man and i will not stop publishing him because he is a wonderful man. If you have a problem and you are looking for a real and a genuine Dr to solve all your problems contact Dr Erediawa Okoh now through his mail: drerediawaherbs@gmail.com or call His mobile number +2348159412586. He will help you solve all your problems. Once again thanks Dr Erediawa Okoh for your good deeds

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  30. Great thanks to Dr Okosun of Okosun Supernatural Home, for the great help rendered to me. i had penis enlargement problems before now, i had tried so many products but couldn't get the best results as i desired it until i got to know about the super penis enlargement skills of Dr Okosun. I was happy and relieved of my nightmares when i received Dr Okosuns super penis enlargement medicine at my home from the DHL, and i took the medicines as instructed, i was so amazed the first time i noticed that my penis was gradually getting bigger and also i was lasting longer on sex. I followed on with open eyes till about 4 weeks of using the medicine when i noticed my penis was already 8 inches long. Now i can satisfy any woman in this world and also proudly say am a man when it comes to staying longer on sex.
    I believe you too can get this super penis enlargement medicine from Dr Okosun on dr.okosunspellalter@gmail.co

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  31. Hello everyone i want to share a live testimony on how Dr Okuzu was able to bring me back to

    my wife, myself and my wife were on a serious breakup, even before then we were always

    quarreling fighting and doing different ungodly act just because i cant perform very well in bed. i

    have a very weak erection and small joystick [penis]
    My wife packed her things out of the house and we had to live in different area, despite all this i

    was looking for a way to re_unite with my wife, not until i met Dr Okuzu the great spell caster

    who was able to bring my wife back home, Dr Okuzu cast a love spell for me, and after some time

    i started seen results about the spell....
    Today my family is back again and we are happy living fine and healthy, with Dr Okuzu all my

    dream came through in re_uniting my marriage, friends in case you need the help of Dr Okuzu

    mail him on(okuzuhealingtemple@gmail.com )or call him on +2349065227880 Sir i will forever

    recommend you!!!

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  32. I would like to let all know that the size of your Penis really matters in your relationship or marriage. I got married to my wife about 1 month after we met on a photo studio, we lived happily for the first 3 months of our marriage until i and my wife started having quarrels at home because i couldn't satisfy her on bed with my little penis. Actually my penis was very small, it measured about 4.5 inch long on erection and i am 33 years old. My wife said it was forbidden by the women of this world. My wife started sleeping with other men outside. Sometimes i will return from work without finding my wife at home and whenever i call or ask her where she was, she will always snub at me and sometimes just tell me to go get a larger dick. All this continued for a long time and it hurt me so much that i was at the edge of breaking up on the marriage till when i read about a doctor called DR. Omohan online. I never thought i could smile and be in a happy marriage again if not for the help of DR. Omohan. I got the doctors Emails: dromohanspell@gmail.com. on the internet and i emailed him, and he got back to me with some encouraging words, he got me some herbs which i use for just 8 days and i began to feel the enlargement of my penis, and without surgery. This went on for a little period of about 10 days and to my surprise my wife keeps screaming that she love my big dick now. Now my wife no longer cheat on me, and my penis is now about10.5 inches long on erection and off course very large round. And now my wife uses breasts, hips and bums enlargement. I and my wife are very happy for the help rendered to me by DR. Omohan, and i want to say a big thanks to Doctor for the help. You can contact the Doctor now on his Email: dromohanspell@gmail.com Am thankful to the doctor for helping me. you can call him whatsapp +2349030313722..

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  33. Hello everyone my name is Rose Bukken from Ukraine and I’m here to testify to the general public on how my HIV/AID was cure by Dr mujaga, Thanks goes to Dr. mujaga who finally save my life with his herbal medication at no cost, May God continue to support you for the good work you are doing, i decided to share This contact to the general public for those that need his help. if you are out their suffering in pains looking for solution for any spiritual problem or effection of any kinds. Via him through this Email : drmujagaherbalcure@gmail.com, he his out there to help you out and put a smile in your face again. also he can cure any kinds of deadly disease, Herpes, HIV/Aids, Stroke, Herbs and Cancer. Truly100% sure treatment for just 7days as instructed on how to use his herbal medication all the pains are gone. Me and my family are now happy together again after 4years of suffering in pains and strongly from wrong hands also going from one doctor to another, I thank God whom actually make it possible. You can also call him via this Tel:+2348060441129
    And his area of specialization are....
    HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS
    DIABETES
    HIV/AIDS
    ENLARGEMENT OF PENIS
    CANCER
    STROKE
    EYE AND HEAR PROBLEM....ETC

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  34. Hello everyone my name is Rose Bukken from Ukraine and I’m here to testify to the general public on how my HIV/AID was cure by Dr mujaga, Thanks goes to Dr. mujaga who finally save my life with his herbal medication at no cost, May God continue to support you for the good work you are doing, i decided to share This contact to the general public for those that need his help. if you are out their suffering in pains looking for solution for any spiritual problem or effection of any kinds. Via him through this Email : drmujagaherbalcure@gmail.com, he his out there to help you out and put a smile in your face again. also he can cure any kinds of deadly disease, Herpes, HIV/Aids, Stroke, Herbs and Cancer. Truly100% sure treatment for just 7days as instructed on how to use his herbal medication all the pains are gone. Me and my family are now happy together again after 4years of suffering in pains and strongly from wrong hands also going from one doctor to another, I thank God whom actually make it possible. You can also call him via this Tel:+2348060441129
    And his area of specialization are....
    HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS
    DIABETES
    HIV/AIDS
    ENLARGEMENT OF PENIS
    CANCER
    STROKE
    EYE AND HEAR PROBLEM....ETC

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  35. Hello everyone my name is Rose Bukken from Ukraine and I’m here to testify to the general public on how my HIV/AID was cure by Dr mujaga, Thanks goes to Dr. mujaga who finally save my life with his herbal medication at no cost, May God continue to support you for the good work you are doing, i decided to share This contact to the general public for those that need his help. if you are out their suffering in pains looking for solution for any spiritual problem or effection of any kinds. Via him through this Email : drmujagaherbalcure@gmail.com, he his out there to help you out and put a smile in your face again. also he can cure any kinds of deadly disease, Herpes, HIV/Aids, Stroke, Herbs and Cancer. Truly100% sure treatment for just 7days as instructed on how to use his herbal medication all the pains are gone. Me and my family are now happy together again after 4years of suffering in pains and strongly from wrong hands also going from one doctor to another, I thank God whom actually make it possible. You can also call him via this Tel:+2348060441129
    And his area of specialization are....
    HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS
    DIABETES
    HIV/AIDS
    ENLARGEMENT OF PENIS
    CANCER
    STROKE
    EYE AND HEAR PROBLEM....ETC

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  36. My name is Harold Finch am from Texas USA. I want to share a testimony of how Dr. ALUKO herbal mixture cream saves me from shame and disgrace, my penis was a big problem to me as the size was really so embarrassing,and i was also having weak erection problem. I can make love to my wife and my penis was just too small a full grown man like me having 4 inches penis and to worsen it i don't last in sex i cant even last two minutes it was really a thing of shame to me. My wife was really tired of me because my sex life was very poor,she never enjoyed sex,i was always thinking and searching for solutions everywhere until when i saw a testimony of how Dr. ALUKO herbal mixture cream have been helping people regarding their sex life, so i decided to give him a try and to my greatest surprise in less than two weeks of taking the herbs my penis grow to 8 inches i couldn't believe my eyes and as i speak now my penis is now 8 inches and i do not have weak erection again. I can make love to my wife longer in bed. And my marriage is now stable,my wife now enjoy me very well in bed. You can contact him via (dralukospellalter@gmail.com) You can contact him today and get your problem solved.Call +2349051292839.." or you can also contact him through his what-app +2349051292839 ,,,I am really grateful sir,

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  37. Hello, Am Josh 34 yrs old, i had penis issues regarding the size of my penis, just some weeks ago i measured just about 6.4 cm (2.5 inches) when flaccid and 10.3 cm (4.1 inches) when fully erect. When i was a teen i thought it was normal but i came to find out when i became an adult that i was really lacking behind. I couldn't satisfy a real lady in bed and the worse of my problems was that i cum on the sight of a ladies vagina. I battled this problems since i was teen and still couldn't get any good victory. I was online searching for guaranteed results providing products to enlarge the size of my penis when i saw a review of Dr Henry Bude Penis Enlargement Skills posted by one Mr Santiago Matias, i read through the comment and emailed the contact ( DR.HENRYBUDE@GMAIL.COM ) on it. The doctor called me some few moments later and attended to me more better than i expected. I was convinced and i made purchase of his herbal medicines for Penis Enlargement and Quick Ejaculation. The medicines was sent to me and i received it at my home, i applied it as instructed and just few weeks of using the herbal medicines i got a perfect good size of penis. I now measure about 18.0 cm (7.4 inches) when flaccid and 23.3 cm (9.1 inches) when erect. Am so happy and comfortable with the new size of my penis, i feel no discomfort or whatever. Am so happy with this fast results. You too can reach Dr Henry Bude for same Penis Enlargement medicines on DR.HENRYBUDE@GMAIL.COM and WHATSAPP/CALLS +2348100663964
    See the good love and experience the fast results too.

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  38. Thank God for my sister life a testimony about a powerful herbal Doctor who save my sister from HIV VIRUS...We have not met Dr.Egobe but have heard of his excellent work on people's life,my wife was a carrier of HERBAL and i decided to look for a solution through the medical doctor/hospital the doctor gave my wife some medicine but the medicine was not able to cure it permanently i was on Facebook one faithful evening then i came across an amazing testimony of someone saying how he was cure with HIV by a Herbal Doctor named Dr.Egobe quickly i search for Dr.Egobe then I saw different sires of testimonies on how Dr.Egobe CURED HIV with Herbal Medicine, for various people and they were cured permanently I decided to contact, I contacted him and he started his work on him life and right now my sister is CURED.she was diagnosed with HIV VIRUS and after taking Dr.Egobe Herbal medicine she was CURED and CURED PERMANENTLY. You can reach him on (Dregobeherbalcure01@gmail.com or call him +2348023357986/whats-app him . Thank God, now everything is fine, my sister is CURED by Dr.Egobe HERBAL MEDICINE , I'm very thankful to Dr.Egobe, no more going to hospital for help anymore HIVare powerful to my understanding and can cure many disease reach him on his mail for any kind of help THESE ARE THE THINGS priest mandible DOES
    1. HERPES
    2. LASSA FEVER
    3. GONORRHEA
    4. HIV/AIDS
    5. LOW SPERM COUNT
    6. MENOPAUSE DISEASE
    7. EPILEPSY
    8. ASEPSIS
    9. CANCER
    10. ANXIETY DEPRESSION
    11. PREGNANCY PROBLEM
    12. SHORT SIGHTEDNESS PROBM

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  39. I want to share a testimony of how Dr. BEN herbal mixture cream saves me from shame and disgrace, my penis was a big problem to me as the size was really so embarrassing,and i was also having weak erection problem. I can make love to my wife and my penis was just too small a full grown man like me having 4 inches penis and to worsen it i don't last in sex i cant even last two minutes it was really a thing of shame to me. My wife was really tired of me because my sex life was very poor, she never enjoyed sex, i was always thinking and searching for solutions everywhere until when i saw a testimony of how Dr. BEN herbal mixture cream have been helping people regarding their sex life, so i decided to give him a try and to my greatest surprise in less than two weeks of taking the herbs my penis grow to 8 inches i couldn't believe my eyes and as i speak now my penis is now 8 inches and i do not have weak erection again. I can make love to my wife longer in bed. And my marriage is now stable, my wife now enjoy me very well in bed. You can contact him via benherbaltemple@gmail.com You can contact him today and get your problem solved.Call +1(310)-220-0075..website http://benherbaltemple.webs.com

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  40. My name is Alicia,from UK.I contacted Mr. Femi okuns, after wasting time on other so called witches & spell-casters. I spent thousands of dollars with no results. Up to the point where I contacted via email: homeofspells.247@gmail.com I had No contact with my lost love,my husband whom he helped to bring back to me permanently.I realized Dr was special, because,the day and moment i sent our details,He asked me to call my husband, after two months of No contact at all.from that point,everything changed,now my husband is back to me.
    Mr. Femi has since cast 3 different spells for my friends and all are working fine.the days whilst he is performing the spells, He is there, as he says on his site 24/7. I live in the UK, and the time difference makes it difficult to keep in touch within reasonable hours, but he is always willing to listen and cast spells.
    I am confident that the results you wish for will manifest when you call or whatsap Mr. Femi okuns,+2347050775844 also via email: homeofspells.247@gmail.com . I want to share my testimony he is more than a wizard, he is a friend, mentor and spiritual spell-caster, He also specializes on the follows;
    *Divorce reconciliation
    *Marriage reconciliation
    *Business growth
    *Promotion in your place of work/office
    *Making banks to grants loans
    *Cures of diseases such as; Cancer, Hiv Aids, Zika virus, Herpes Disease, Sexual Infection E.T.C.
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