A letter in today's Times: Health care spending still can't be discussed! We base our pronouncement on a letter in today's New York Times.
The letter responds to a recent Times report concerning our excessive spending. Rge report appeared in the hard-copy Times on March 14. Today's letter looks something like this:
LETTER TO THE NEW YORK TIMES (3/22/18): Re “Why Is U.S. Health Care So Expensive? Some of the Reasons You’ve Heard Turn Out to Be Myths” (The Upshot, March 13):The letter may seem to respond to this question:
It’s true that “analysts are fond of describing the system as wasteful, with too many patients getting too many services.” But those of us on the front lines know that large segments of the population have no real access to quality medical care, and even those with “good insurance” struggle through a maze of barriers and increased costs.
The United States has some of the highest administrative costs in the world because of our fractured, multipayer, profit-based system. Private insurers add zero value but drive up costs through administrative waste and profiteering, and require hospitals and doctors to maintain complex billing and cost-tracking bureaucracies.
While no system is perfect, we have an excellent solution in the form of Medicare. A single-payer plan like H.R. 676, “Medicare for All,” could save an estimated $617 billion a year by slashing administrative waste in the private insurance industry ($504 billion) and bargaining down drug prices ($113 billion), freeing up money for universal coverage without any net increase in health spending.
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"Why Is U.S. Health Care So Expensive?"
That's an excellent question! The letter may seem to propose an extremely popular progressive "solution" to our presumed
overspending—"Medicare for All."
How expensive is American health care? As we've noted three million times, this nation spends two to three times as much on health care, per person, as other developed nations. These are the most recent data from the OECD:
Per capita spending, health care, 2016Oof! We spend more than twice as much, per person, as France, Canada or the U.K. Where does all that money go?
United States: $9892
Germany: $5551
Canada: $4753
Australia: $4708
France: $4600
Japan: $4519
United Kingdom: $4192
Italy: $3391
Spain: $3248
South Korea: $2729
That letter might seem to respond to that question, but it actually doesn't. The letter might seem to suggest that our Medicare program is so frugal that it would correct for our current massive level of spending.
That said, we've never seen a comparison of what we spend, per person, on older people as compared to what is spent in countries like France. In reality, that letter merely says that "Medicare for all" would be somewhat cheaper than our current arrangements are. It doesn't say how much spending would occur in a system like that, as compared to the spending which occurs in nations like Canada, Australia or France.
On line, the Times links that letter to the recent analysis piece which ran beneath those headlines. Here they are again:
“Why Is U.S. Health Care So Expensive? Some of the Reasons You’ve Heard Turn Out to Be Myths”
Go ahead—click that link. What don't you see in that upbeat "Upshot" report?
That's right! You don't see the type of data we've posted above! Is there a law against letting American citizens know how widespread the looting is?
On the brighter side, we are encouraged to spend our time hearing about all the f**king, especially from 2006. But uh-oh:
Concerning the looting of health care dollars, neither Rachel, nor Lawrence, nor Chris nor Chris will ever take you there! Just a guess:
In the judgment of their owners, The Looting is too boring for cable. Also, The Interests might not approve!
Our cable stars are paid the big bucks. (You aren't allowed to know how much.) They very much hope you enjoy The Chase and, of course, all The Sex.
"In the judgment of their owners, The Looting is too boring for cable."
ReplyDeleteNonsense. Looting is not boring, especially this kind of looting, where the viewer is the victim.
Not to mention that they have no problem endlessly gossiping about real boring shit, like Donald the Awesome's tax returns.
"Also, The Interests might not approve!"
You got it, Bob. Medical mafia is part of the establishment.
Like your paymasters in the Motherland, Boris?
DeleteSpeaking of looting: Calling all chumps. Calling all chumps.
DeleteSend your hard earned money to Trump's re-election campaign. He's got a ton of legal bills to deal with you know.
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DeleteLooting might be the right word if the extra cash went to pirates, but it goes to pay lots of intermediaries salaries, which supports our economy and gives lots of people income to live on. That is how capitalism works. We should focus on receiving better quality of care and Somerby should be quoting those stats instead.
ReplyDelete'That's right! You don't see the type of data we've posted above! '
ReplyDeleteThe NYT has done lots of reports on health care costs in the US, and had a whole series on that by a reporter a few years back. It's hardly their fault that you are too busy defending Trump, attacking liberals and slavering over Stormy Daniels to look it up.
Why does Somerby focus on a letter? Why not the article itself:
ReplyDelete"Why Is U.S. Health Care So Expensive? Some of the Reasons You’ve Heard Turn Out to Be Myths"
Subtitle: In a new, detailed international comparison, the United States looks a lot more like its peers than researchers expected.
The article acknowledges the expensiveness, and delves into the reasons why, citing and linking to a study in the JAMA (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2674671?redirect=true)
Wouldn't the Times article show a serious intent to examine the health care system? Wouldn't a serious blogger/media critic give the author and the newspaper their due for caring about health care, and publishing a serious story about it?
But no, Somerby drags out his shopworn criticism that the story doesn't specifically mention his list of statistics, thus he simply dismisses it. He fails, yet again, to discuss the actual article.
Here's what that JAMA study said:
"Findings In 2016, the United States spent nearly twice as much as 10 high-income countries on medical care and performed less well on many population health outcomes."
Oof!
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Delete“When it came to many of the measures of health system function, the United States was in the middle of the pack, not an outlier, as Dr. Jha had expected.”
Delete“Health system function?” What exactly does that mean? Well Jha is from Harvard, maybe he could explain what that is. He doesn’t. And your link to the JAMA article doesn’t come close to explaining it, and the NYT just obfuscates.
Why is that so hard for the NYT, or anyone else in the msm, to cut to the chase, and post the actual numbers? Instead they write “Analysts are fond of describing the system as wasteful…”
Fond? Fond!? And not a word – one word – that our system is for-profit. Insurance is mentioned only once, in the context of Switzerland and the Netherlands. Insurance companies in the US spend millions to _deny_ coverage, and reward their employees handsomely with bonuses for doing so. Especially their CEO’s.
Leroy
Bob is lazy, dumb, and exudes a moral squalor. You have just done more work in your comment re this article than Bob could ever attempt.
DeleteEven if I disagree with your dismissive view.
Try not to fall into Somerby's bad habits.
Better yet, Leroy, why don't you or Somerby try writing an in depth post about health care, instead of just criticizing everyone else who tries. Sure is easy to carp from the sidelines, isn't it? Just copying and pasting your stupid f**king little list of numbers for 10 years is nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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DeleteAccording to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), in 2016 American Healthcare costs totaled $3.3 Trillion. Private health insurance costs were $1.1 Trillion [LINK].
DeleteIf we were to assume the average per patient Medicare administrative costs are 3% and the average per patient per patient private insurance costs are 20% (an on the high side average estimate, even keeping in mind older patients have higher gross costs which results in making Medicare per patient administrative costs lower than they would be for a healthier population) then we would conclude private insurance wastes an absolute maximum of $1.1 Trillion X (20%-3% = 17%) = $187 Billion/year in administrative costs compared to the most efficient alternative (i.e. Medicare).
Assuming the letter writer was referring to per year savings, that correspondent's reference to $504 Billion potential savings in administrative costs is way off even if we were to double that $187 Billion figure by making the unfounded claim providers have the same administrative expenses as insurance companies in administering their claims. Of course, in addition to getting better prices for prescription drugs Medicare could be negotiating better prices for doctor services, hospital stays, medical equipment, and both in-patient and out-patient procedures.
I've read a whole lot on the subject of why healthcare costs in the United States are so high relative to the rest of the developed world and, in my opinion, one of the best presentations introducing this issue has been this seven minute fifty-two second Why Are American Health Care Costs So High? YouTube video: LINK. That said, this video is looking back from 2013 before the influences of Obamacare started to kick in.
There is some evidence US healthcare results have improved as a result of Obamacare* but its great short coming is that it fails to do much in the way of slowing cost increases (healthcare cost increases may have slowed in the last couple of years but there's little reason to credit Obamacare as the reason).
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*The great net beneficiaries of Obamacare are people with some financial means and pre-existing conditions who are not employed by an enterprise which provides individual (or family) healthcare insurance and large families (those requiring insurance for five or more family members) who can not get heavily subsidized coverage for all family members from an employer.
“According to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), in 2016 American Healthcare costs totaled $3.3 Trillion. Private health insurance costs were $1.1 Trillion [LINK ] [nonfunctional].”
Delete“Costs” is wiggly, what is it referring to? As opposed to “waste.”
How many people rely on Medicare v. private insurance? Surely that plays into the calculus.
Universal healthcare is going to cost, and cost a lot. You site an estimate of administrative costs, that is “waste,” 3% with Medicare, upper-end estimates of private insurance, 20%.
Given the small numbers of the privately insured v. those on Medicare, these numbers stand out. And administrative costs serve only one function with private insurers, and you know damn well what it is. But I’ll say it anyway: Profit.
We have two systems at odds with each other.
“There is some evidence US healthcare results have improved as a result of Obamacare but its great short coming (sic) is that it fails to do much in the way of slowing cost increases.”
Why are costs increasing? Maybe the pharmaceutical industry might have an answer to that question.
You seem to be against the idea of Medicare for All. I may be misreading you, but is it really all about the dollars? Or is it something else? Because there are 500+ billionaires in this country. And I’m all for soaking the rich.
Leroy
I am 100% in favor of Medicare (actually something more like Medicaid) for All. That's no reason not to crunch the numbers correctly.
DeleteWas Bob incorrect? I must have missed something, understandable since its Friday and I'm enjoying my rum. And a link to the non-link would be appreciated.
DeleteLeroy
I just watched the working link you posted. Thanks.
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Whoops, here's my other LINK. The numbers for shares of expenditure by different private sources and government programs are known to a high degree of accuracy. (And as far as I know, Somerby was first directed to OECD data a few years back, which he's been citing since, by a link left by me.) The OECD has solid figures for excellent comparisons between countries, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) has highly reliable numbers for nominal and inflation adjusted U.S. expenditures.
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DeleteThanks Cmike. You always deliver. And sorry for my aggressive tone. I ended up arguing against myself, since I looked up the numbers of privately insured v. Medicare/Medicaid. The private sector has public healthcare beat in terms of numbers by a wide margin. Not sure if the Kaiser Foundation is reliable, but if their numbers are correct, than 20% v. 3% takes on added meaning. LINK
DeleteDidn’t even know how to post a link afore I came here, thanks for that too.
Leroy
You're right about numbers of people covered by private vs. public insurance programs- that's a handy interactive link you posted as Kaiser's data is considered reliable. On the dollar side though, it would appear Medicare and Medicaid together expends 9% more dollars LINK for their 107 million beneficiaries than does the private health insurance sector on its 179 million beneficiaries.
DeleteAnd here are two links to summaries of a feature of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the 80/20 (85/15) Rule. One link is current, the other a fuller discussion from 2013, both point out there are different required provider/administrative expenditure ratios in place for large and small group policies LINK LINK. Nothing in this rule, though, I'm afraid that a good accountant can't get around.
There are two separate issues here: accessibility and price.
DeletePublic insurance is needed for the universal access.
Prices, however, is a different story. Hospitals charge you 10 bucks for a 50c item, doctors charge you $200 for a 10 minute visit, and if your 100% public insurance will tolerate these practices (and I believe medicare does, more or less), the prices are not going to change.
It's a mafia industry, the whole thing: insurances, doctors, hospitals, pharmaceuticals.
'Why is that so hard for the NYT, or anyone else in the msm, to cut to the chase, and post the actual numbers?'
DeleteBecause the numbers by themselves aren't very useful without some context and explanation, and the NYT went into that. For SOmerby, the only goal is to attack the NYT so he lies about their extensive coverage of health care.
7:38 PM I keep thinking you'll eventually give up on repeating yourself but no, you're willing to contribute the same nothing over and over and over. The rest of us are thinking that as sour as you are when you're here you'd have somewhere better to be- guess not.
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Is Bob either too lazy or too dumb to follow the Times' author's argument and discuss it?
ReplyDeleteOr he is too driven by his narrative, that "liberals don't care about healthcare." The argument obviously holds no water vis-Ã -vis the NYT. Elizabeth Rosenthal, who wrote a book about the US healthcare system that Somerby has praised, worked for years as a healthcare reporter for the Times, and was a guest on MSNBC. The author of the current article is currently a healthcare reporter for the Times.
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ReplyDeletePer capita spending, health care, 2016
United States: $9892
Germany: $5551
Canada: $4753
Australia: $4708
France: $4600
Japan: $4519
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There. I have just thoroughly and decisively discussed healthcare. Next topic.
But if you publish it in the NYT, you will be a member of the mainstream media guild, and you will therefore be a lying hack whose work must be automatically rejected.
DeleteHe gives credit where due.
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Medicare for all wouldn't save much. Ten percent of Medicare funds are stolen by fraud, allowing the same people access to every dollar spent on health care would increase their take by that much. The government must take total control of medicine. It must train the workers, develop the drugs, and own the facilities.
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i have been in relationship with my boyfriend for 2 year now and we were planning to get married soon and all of a sudden he left me for another girl, i really love this guy and never can imagine my life without him. I further tried all my best to get him back but all my effort to get him back in my life did not work out. It was on this faithful day, i came across some comments on a website about this great spell caster called Dr Azuka, so many persons claimed that he help them to renew their relationship and bring their ex back, i had to contact him because he was my last hope. I contacted him through his email and he assured me that in two days time my boyfriend is going to leave the other girl and come back to me and it was a very great surprise to see my boyfriend coming back to me after two days. I am so very happy today that he came back to me and i achieved this with the help of Dr Azuka, and i advice if you need his help too, you can email him on his direct Dr.azukasolutionhome@gmail.com or contact him on whats App him +2348132777335
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I want to inform the public how i was cured from (HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS) by Dr JOHN, i visited different hospital but they gave me list of drugs like Famvir, Zovirax, and Valtrex which is very expensive to treat the symptoms and never cured me. On my moms birthday November 28 2016, I was browsing through the Internet searching for remedy on herpes and i saw comments of people talking about how Dr JOHN cured them. when i contacted him he gave me hope and send a Herbal medicine to me that i took for two weeks and four days, to my greatest surprise it seriously worked for me, am a free person now without problem, my herpes result came out negative. I pray for you Dr JOHN, am cured you can also get your self cured my friends, if you really need Dr JOHN help he can cure what ever symptoms or virus you have within you and he can be reach through his whats-app +2347064365391 OR drjohnsolution@gmail.com
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I want to inform the public how i was cured from (HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS) by Dr JOHN, i visited different hospital but they gave me list of drugs like Famvir, Zovirax, and Valtrex which is very expensive to treat the symptoms and never cured me. On my moms birthday November 28 2016, I was browsing through the Internet searching for remedy on herpes and i saw comments of people talking about how Dr JOHN cured them. when i contacted him he gave me hope and send a Herbal medicine to me that i took for two weeks and four days, to my greatest surprise it seriously worked for me, am a free person now without problem, my herpes result came out negative. I pray for you Dr JOHN, am cured you can also get your self cured my friends, if you really need Dr JOHN help he can cure what ever symptoms or virus you have within you and he can be reach through his whats-app +2347064365391 OR drjohnsolution@gmail.com
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I Never believed i was ever going to be HIV Negative again,DR LEETU has given me reasons to be happy, i was HIV positive for 2years and all the means i tried for treatment was not helpful to me, but when i came on the Internet i saw great testimony about DR LEETU on how he was able to cure someone from HIV, this person said great things about this man, and advice we contact him for any Disease problem that DR LEETU can be of help, well i decided to give him a try, he requested for my information which i sent to him, and he told me he was going to prepare for me a healing portion, which he wanted me to take for days,and after which i should go back to the hospital for check up, well after taking all the treatment sent to me by DR LEETU i went back to the Hospital for check up, and now i have been confirmed HIV Negative, friends you
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I was been suffering from HIV/AIDS since 9 years now, and i happen to have 2 kids for my husband, and now we cannot proceed to have another kids all because of my disease and now i have do all what a human like i and my husband can do just to get my disease healed, i have went to several places to seek for help not even one person could ever help, until i melt a comment on the daily news paper that was commented by Miss Marilyn about how this powerful traditional doctor help her get cured of the disease (HIV-AIDS) ” my fellow beloved” i firstly taught having a help from a spiritual traditional healer was a wrong idea, but i think of these, will i continue to stress on these disease all day when i have someone to help me save my life?” so i gather all my faiths and put in all interest to contact him through his Email address at drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com , so after i have mailed him of helping get my disease cured, i respond to me fast as possible that i should not be afraid, that he is a truthful and powerful doctor which i firstly claimed him to be. So after all set has been done, he promise me that i will be healed but on a condition that i provide him some items and obeyed all his oracle said. I did all by accepting his coloraturas fact and only to see that the following week Dr JOHN mail me on my mail box that my work is successfully done with his powers, i was first shocked and later arise to be the happiest woman on earth after i have concluded my final test on the hospital by my doctor that i am now HIV- Negative. My papers for check are with me and now i am happy and glad for his miraculous help and power.
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I was been suffering from HIV/AIDS since 9 years now, and i happen to have 2 kids for my husband, and now we cannot proceed to have another kids all because of my disease and now i have do all what a human like i and my husband can do just to get my disease healed, i have went to several places to seek for help not even one person could ever help, until i melt a comment on the daily news paper that was commented by Miss Marilyn about how this powerful traditional doctor help her get cured of the disease (HIV-AIDS) ” my fellow beloved” i firstly taught having a help from a spiritual traditional healer was a wrong idea, but i think of these, will i continue to stress on these disease all day when i have someone to help me save my life?” so i gather all my faiths and put in all interest to contact him through his Email address at drjohnhivcurehome@gmail.com , so after i have mailed him of helping get my disease cured, i respond to me fast as possible that i should not be afraid, that he is a truthful and powerful doctor which i firstly claimed him to be. So after all set has been done, he promise me that i will be healed but on a condition that i provide him some items and obeyed all his oracle said. I did all by accepting his coloraturas fact and only to see that the following week Dr JOHN mail me on my mail box that my work is successfully done with his powers, i was first shocked and later arise to be the happiest woman on earth after i have concluded my final test on the hospital by my doctor that i am now HIV- Negative. My papers for check are with me and now i am happy and glad for his miraculous help and power.
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