Qu'est-que c'est "little white lies:" We're off on a mission of national import. Tomorrow, we expect to do a brief Oscar preview, based on the need for Monster.
Today, we're thinking about the familiar old phrase, "(little) white lie."
Our associates at Merriam-Webster have defined the term as shown below. We keep these experts on retainer precisely for moments like this:
Definition of WHITE LIEReportedly, Hope Hicks used this incriminating term in her recent testimony to the House Intelligence Committee. Her statement has led to a thousand fevered pseudo-analyses. Here's one from Z. Byron Wolf, digital director of CNN Politics:
: a lie about a small or unimportant matter that someone tells to avoid hurting another person.
"He told a (little) white lie as his excuse for missing the party."
WOLF (2/28/18): Hope Hicks has occasionally told fibs on behalf of her boss, but they only amounted to white lies, according to what little we've heard spill out after her closed-door testimony Tuesday with congressional investigators.Try, try, try to believe that you actually read that. Try, try, try to believe that it was written by someone employed by a major American news org.
She did not answer questions about her time at the White House, joining former President Donald Trump aide Steve Bannon in claiming those communications are privileged. And she was reticent at first to discuss the transition period. It's not exactly clear when the white lies may have occurred.
Hicks argued she hasn't had to lie about substantive issues for Trump, according to the source with knowledge of her Tuesday comments that spoke to CNN's Manu Raju and Jeremy Herb.
That the White House communications director should have to lie on behalf of her boss, who is a serial boaster, stretcher of the truth and documented outright fibber, should not be surprising.
That she would admit to even the smallest fib in the context of testimony about Russian election meddling is something else entirely. Even a white lie implies intentional misleading.
While Hicks' testimony was not before special counsel Robert Mueller, he is unlikely to take very kindly to lies, even those of the white variety. Lying to the FBI—if that's what happened here—is no joke.
Try to believe that it was written by an actual human being. Once you've convinced yourself that this analysis isn't a joke, you'll better understand the problem we humans are facing.
(We've seen similar discussions all over cable, sometimes by major players.)
We'll offer a few notes about what Hicks apparently said:
There is no transcript of what she said. There is no tape of what she said.
We can't assess the tone with which she said what she said. Did she possibly say little white lies, with the first word being abandoned to hype the outrage machine?
We've seen this subhuman folderol a million times in the past twenty years. The children seize upon some tiny remark, perhaps a comment offered in some degree of jest. The children then begin to thunder and rage about what the comment is said to mean, prove, demonstrate, imply or incriminatingly suggest.
The children don't care that they lack a tape, or a transcript, or any sense of the tone or context surrounding the comment. And let's be honest:
Even if they had a transcript or a tape, their skills wouldn't allow them to make a sensible analysis of the import of the offhand comment in question.
Will Robert Mueller's reaction to this report be what Wolf suggests? Will Mueller prove "unlikely to take very kindly to lies, even those of the white variety?"
Pray, pray, pray that he will not! If Mueller operates on the level of CNN's Wolf—if he operates on the level of those who created years of "translations" of pointless comments by Gore—then our American prospects are lost.
Anthropologists and other leading experts widely agree. We the humans just aren't very smart. We have virtually no judgment at all, not much sense of shame.
We aren't very bright and we aren't very nice. The mystery is how a bunch of jerks like us could ever have made it this far.
Tomorrow, we expect to discuss our need for Monster. That said, you got a quick preview here.
For extra credit, and please give supporting details: "Lying to the FBI—if that's what happened here—is no joke."
How pitiful was that throw-in by Wolf? Sadly shaking your head and glancing away, discuss.
How pitiful is Somerby's continual defense of Trump aides. I suppose it comes with the territory of being a Trumptard that he is now. Perhaps the biggest lie here is Somerby's referring to himself as a liberal.
ReplyDeleteHe didn't defend Hope Hicks. He criticized Wolf's criticism of her. The point of this post (and this blog) is to get liberals to stop defeating themselves by undermining liberal values and alienating people who are not already committed to liberal values and interests. Republican rhetoric (e.g. dehumanizing people who disagree) can't be used to create more liberals; it just doesn't work, for obvious reasons. That language uses a part of the brain that can only find satisfaction when servicing illiberal ends. That's why Somerby spends so much time on Maddow. She's getting her ratings success at the expense of the liberal cause, fiddling as Rome burns.
DeleteWhatever.
Delete@David Stein: how in the world does Wolf's story "dehumanize" Hicjs? How is Wolf's story even a criticism of her? He reports what she reportedly said in her testimony.
Delete'The point of this post (and this blog) is to get liberals to stop defeating themselves by undermining liberal values and alienating people who are not already committed to liberal values and interests. '
DeleteSomerby's idea of getting liberals to stop defeating themselves is to attack them viciously (under the pretense of media criticism, but of course he never criticizes Fox et al.) and to suggest they disarm themselves by not even making legitimate criticisms of conservatives.
Somerby's prescription if followed, would resrtrict liberals to winning 2 cities in the US -- Berkeley and Cambridge. Somerby obviously wants liberals to lose so he can bitch for the rest of his life about 2000.
We don't yet exactly know what Hicks said, but so far it seems likely that she simply put into the record something intended to be just muddy enough to shield her from perjury in answering the question put to her (i.e. has she lied at Trump's request?). As for Wolf, I agree he didn't directly dehumanize Hicks (sorry for implying that), but he uses what she merely might have said as a pretext for rambling, incoherent speculation and posturing. Hicks probably has lied for Trump in substantial ways (e.g. helping to mislead the public about the meeting in Trump Tower). Mueller's team knows how to ask questions, evaluate answers, and analyze actual information. That will someday help the public (even a jury, I hope) to come to know, endorse and act on the ugly truth in all of this. In the meantime, stuff like Wolf's is worse than worthless, like trying to clean a window with a dirty rag. That's not legitimately criticizing a conservative, and it won't persuade anyone not already persuaded.
DeletePresumably journalists were present at the hearings or interviewed people who were there and heard what she said. He isn't speculating. Just because there is no recording doesn't mean there were no witnesses. She was testifying to congress, not answering Mueller's questions, in this case.
Delete"That will someday help the public ...to come to know, ... the ugly truth in all of this."
DeleteBy then, it might well be too late.
What are your proposals to speed the process in light of the fact that Somerby can't be bothered to offer any?
@David Stein:
DeleteYou don't have to act clueless like Somerby. There's an article in the Post that gives you more info about this. A couple of quotes:
"A Democrat and a Republican on the panel said Thursday that Hicks refused to answer questions Tuesday about whether she had been asked to lie by White House aides and Trump’s family members, including Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr., former White House adviser Stephen K. Bannon, and former campaign officials Corey Lewandowski and Paul Manafort."
"Swalwell (Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) said Hicks did not answer when he asked why she would refuse to say whether other aides had asked her to lie when she was willing to speak about Flynn, or whether she had ever witnessed Trump asking others to lie for him."
The article is here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/hope-hicks-refused-to-tell-house-panel-if-she-had-lied-for-senior-trump-officials-lawmakers-say/2018/03/01/8295114c-1d60-11e8-b2d9-08e748f892c0_story.htm
Thanks. I don't mean to act clueless. We do know a lot. Enough to know that rats are scrambling off a sinking ship. But not enough to analyze her committee testimony with authority.
Delete@Curious George:
DeleteI think there is plenty of good journalism that is helping us get there. This discussion just centers on specific efforts that might fall short of that standard, and that exemplify certain pernicious trends.
David Stein, the point of this blog, at one point anyway, used to be seeing through the daily distortions that result from shoddy reporting on the national issues of the day and the Press Corps. Liberal self improvement through the harangue method came latter. I think Bob has this one in large part right, they are seizing on the "white lies" comments. What he doesn't mention is that Hope Hicks, woefully unqualified for her job, made the the comment after a day long stonewalling session, or so it would seem. If She threw this to the committee, while largely refusing to cooperate, then it is significant. Said as an underling for a guy I guess Bob probably still has a problem calling a liar puts the overarching absurdity into context.
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The user interface is clean and clear; the etymologies are informative, with appendices of Indo-European and Semitic roots.
Just used it for a term I was looking up earlier this morning at Merriam Webster, Dictionary dot com, and Wikipedia. The American Heritage dictionary provided a superior concise explanation over the other three sources so thanks for the recommendation. (For some reason it does seem slow to load, though.)
DeleteThanks Caesar, duly bookmarked.
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Well, the good thing is no one in the right mind is going to read this bullshit or watch CNN. It's all zombie feed.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what compels you to do it, Bob.
No one will read it, other than Bob and his millions of followers. Thanks, Bob.
Delete'mao', unfortuantely Russian Trolls like you will have to keep watching it iN St. petersburg so you can better attack it
DeleteIt may be awhile before you get a response from the troll. The IRA (Internet research Agency" is experiencing some turmoil these days.
DeleteMore good news for Mao from the "drain the swamp" files:
DeleteBillionaire investor and longtime Trump confidant Carl Icahn dumped $31.3 million of stock in a company heavily dependent on steel last week, just days before Trump announced plans to impose steep tariffs on steel imports.
In a little-noticed SEC filing submitted on February 22, 2018, Icahn disclosed that he systematically sold off nearly 1 million shares of Manitowoc Company Inc. Manitowoc is a “is a leading global manufacturer of cranes and lifting solutions” and, therefore, heavily dependent on steel to make its products.
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Leaking Hopes' testimony is illegal. Will the leaker be identified and prosecuted? I don't think so.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like the Special Prosecutor has given up on finding illegal collusion and instead is devoted to embarrassing Trump or anyone associated with him.
Say what? Mueller didn't leak anything. Hicks testified before the House Committee.
DeleteDavid, do you ever feel like you've made a fool of yourself?
DeleteYes, Caesar. I do.
DeleteBut being a sociopath, he could care less.
DeleteDavid, quit watching and reading conservative media -- they deceive you. Watch and read mainstream media. Then the Howler will help you resist their deceit. The problem with conservative media is you have no one to help you.
DeleteDon Quixote lives!
DeleteI don't see much difference between white lies and little white lies. Somerby suggests that the press didn't present Hicks' statement accurately, even though there is no transcript for his accusation. So this is hypothetical misquoting. To what end is he suggesting this? To exonerate Hicks and make it seem like the press is out to get her? By omitting the word "little".
ReplyDeleteSomerby is reaching so far his arms must hurt. Of course Hope Hicks has lied. So did Sean Spicer and so has Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Whether these are big or little lies depends on your perspective about the role of those who communicate with the public. Their job is to let the people know what their government is doing, not to protect the president. But these people have been behaving as minions of Trump, not as servants of the people. So CNN and the press has the right to complain when they tell even little white lies.
Somerby used to understand things like this. What is wrong with him?
His blog is a comedy routine.
DeleteI actually do just come here for amusement to see what the cranky old man is making a big flaming deal of, nowadays. Always attacking liberals and Dems, his accusations are on such slender reeds, it's funny to read him getting into a lather over nothing bullshit.
DeleteI do think some, not all, of his criticisms of Rachel Maddow are astute though. I like her, but she really does clown around a lot and burn off airtime and cutesily talk about herself way too much. I;ll give Somerby that.
White lies are harmless. When Trump asks Hicks, "Do these golf pants make me look fat when I'm committing treason?" what does it matter if she says no?
Delete"We have virtually no judgment at all, not much sense of shame. We aren't very bright and we aren't very nice. The mystery is how a bunch of jerks like us could ever have made it this far."
ReplyDeleteTrenchant analysis? Misanthropy? Confession?
The quote conjures up the voice and mannerisms of Groucho Marx.
DeleteIt also subtly undermines the whole idea of progressivism...that humans and human society can be improved.
Delete'People are saying' that she wanted to tell other kinds of lies...but Stephen Miller would only allow her to tell white ones.
ReplyDeleteKurt Eichenwald tweeted yesterday:
ReplyDelete"White lies: when I asked hope Hicks about trumps use of amphetamine derivatives in 1982, she said he took them for a few days. When I said medical records I had showed he used them till 1990 - or 8 years when 25 days is max before addiction - she called me liberal & hung up.
....for those wondering, the amphetamine derivatives are known as “chalkies” or “tombstones” when sold on street. Trump had a second doctor he never disclosed who was exposed for providing these to famous people. Trump needed help to kick them. Why have you never heard this?....."
Does this count as a white lie or a little white lie?
"Tomorrow, we expect to do a brief Oscar preview, based on the need for Monster."
ReplyDeleteNot sure whether to root for or against "The Shape of Water" for best picture. It will be amusing to read Somerby's reaction if it does win.
A new study on gun deaths from the Rand Corporation says all the things conservatives and the NRA don't want to hear:
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She used the phrase after consulting with her lawyer. She then resigned. She has already been questioned by Mueller with counsel also available. As she was involved with the meeting at Trump tower and the cover up, treating this as an off-hand, innocent phrasing seems naive.
ReplyDeleteMao, while you're friendly to Mr Trump here at the Daily Howler, Uncle Vova's news/propaganda service publishes Reuters comments like this:
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Great post. It actually made me laugh, Bob has great humor in (t)his context.
ReplyDelete“White Lie.”
Is “tact” listed in the thesaurus as a synonym to white lie? It should be. I can only imagine that tact is yuugly required in the – goddamn, I hate to have to write this – Trump Whitehouse.
Why tact exists outside of it is anybody’s guess.
Leroy
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Leroy, you should check the WaPo story about this. Find out the things Somerby won't tell you.
Deletemkay, I read it. OMG, she took time to consult with her lawyers? In front of a closed-door session with the *House* Intelligence Committee? And then this:
Delete“Hicks came under additional fire during her appearance Tuesday because she refused to answer questions related to anything that occurred after Trump took office, although Trump has not invoked executive privilege. That meant lawmakers were unable to compel her to testify about the role she might have played last summer aboard Air Force One in drafting a misleading statement to explain why the president’s son Donald Trump Jr. had met with a Russian lawyer in June 2016 at Trump Tower.”
Do you know how stupid that paragraph is? Read it slowly, carefully, and ask yourself, how did this make it into print? Because there’s lot of storytelling going on in just that one paragraph. And it will necessarily lead to nothing, unless Hicks wants to cash out with a book.
Quoting House, “Everybody lies.” At least Hicks admitted to it. The chase continues. I hope Trump goes down in flames (welcome, Mike Pence!), but unfortunately, all we have is “leaked” testimony (by one D and one R) in this case. Time to move on…
Leroy
The article is way too soft on Hicks and perpetuates White House deceit as acceptable. Same with Somerby.
DeleteShorter Somerby
ReplyDelete"Liberals...subhuman."
No need to act all cute and clueless like Somerby. There's an article in the Post that gives you more info about this. A couple of quotes:
ReplyDelete"A Democrat and a Republican on the panel said Thursday that Hicks refused to answer questions Tuesday about whether she had been asked to lie by White House aides and Trump’s family members, including Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr., former White House adviser Stephen K. Bannon, and former campaign officials Corey Lewandowski and Paul Manafort."
"Swalwell (Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) said Hicks did not answer when he asked why she would refuse to say whether other aides had asked her to lie when she was willing to speak about Flynn, or whether she had ever witnessed Trump asking others to lie for him."
The article is here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/hope-hicks-refused-to-tell-house-panel-if-she-had-lied-for-senior-trump-officials-lawmakers-say/2018/03/01/8295114c-1d60-11e8-b2d9-08e748f892c0_story.htm
Or this URL:
Deletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/hope-hicks-refused-to-tell-house-panel-if-she-had-lied-for-senior-trump-officials-lawmakers-say/2018/03/01/8295114c-1d60-11e8-b2d9-08e748f892c0_story.html?utm_term=.6a020eedccb5
Another quote from the article:
Delete"Hicks’s admission came toward the end of her interview, as part of an exchange with Swalwell about whether Hicks had “ever lied for” Trump — a question Hicks initially refused to answer until she had consulted with her lawyer. Her recalcitrance left Democrats and Republicans on the panel with radically different interpretations about the meaning of her answers — particularly her admission that she had told “white lies.”
We should also note Bob's usual smirking about youth is absent here. Hope HIkes ran a cirtical post at the White House at 29. Her dubious experience also escapes attention.
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