BREAKING: Chotiner's (well-chosen) first questions for Chozick!

MONDAY, APRIL 30, 2018

Chozick's instructive replies:
We haven't finished Amy Chozick's instructive new book as yet. Painfully, we still have hundreds of pages to go.

That said, we thought Isaac Chotiner showed good instincts in his interview with Chozick, who covered Candidate Clinton for the New York Times for more than three years during and before the start of Campaign 2016.

Craftily, Chotiner took it easy as he began. His first question went like this:
CHOTINER (4/27/18): When did you first start reporting on Hillary Clinton?
Some will say that this was a softball start. Let them come to Berlin, or at least to Slate, to peruse Chozck's reply:
CHOZICK (continuing directly): I had been a foreign correspondent in Japan for the Wall Street Journal when my editor there became Washington bureau chief—this was 2007—and he said, “How would you like to go to Iowa and cover Hillary Clinton?” I was 28. I went to Iowa. I was having as much culture shock going there as I had when I moved to Tokyo. I thought, “Oh my God, Americans are huge.” I didn’t know what a caucus was, which I admitted to Hillary Clinton’s aides a couple years later, and they said, “That’s OK. We didn’t know what a caucus was either in 2008.”
Say what? Chozick, a former foreign correspodent, didn't know what a caucus was when she started covering Campaign 2008 for the Wall Street Journal?

Apparently, this claim struck Chotiner as strange. Here's his second Q-and-A with Chozick, completing the text we will discuss today:
CHOTINER (continuing directly): Do you think it’s weird that newspapers send people to cover the Iowa election without knowing what a caucus is, or is that par for the course of how reporting works?

CHOZICK: Actually, I don’t think that’s par for the course. I think that was an exception and I think it was a good one because I went to Japan without knowing anything about Japan. My editor’s idea was that fresh eyes would find new angles and new perspectives—things that either Japanese reporters or reporters who had lived there for decades didn’t think were strange. I thought it was a story and was interesting to readers. And I think it was the same thing getting to Iowa. I noticed things that, I think, when you cover politics and that’s all you cover—for instance, I wrote a Page 1 feature about campaign hookups. This is something that, if you have covered campaigns, of course people hook up, and that’s just a normal thing, but for me it was an interesting thing to see. Secret Service and reporters and all kinds of hookups. So I don’t know. I think you find stories with fresh perspectives and there can be a danger in the opposite way when you start getting too cynical and things just don’t start seeming like stories, and things don’t seem exciting any more. It’s like, “Yep, this is my fourth caucus, and I know everybody and know everything and I am writing just to impress my friends.”
Those are the first two Q-and-A's between Chotiner and Chozick. In our view, Chozick's answers have already given us substantial reason to fear for the future of the republic, though it will take several days to flesh out this gloomy pronouncement.

Please understand! Chotiner actually went easy on Chozick in each of these opening questions! In his second question, he seems surprised by the idea that a 28-year-old reporter for one of our most important newspapers would be assigned to cover the Iowa caucus without knowing what a caucus actually was.

How do you get to be 28 at the Wall Street Journal without knowing such a thing? How do you get assigned to cover a major candidate if you know so little about the political process?

That's what Chotiner seems to be asking in his second question. But as we noted on Saturday, Chotiner skipped past the most amazing thing Chozick says about her mind-blowing ignorance as she headed for Iowa, where she says the people were huge. According to Chozick's mind-blowing book, she also didn't know this:
CHOZICK (page 51): I didn't know who ran John Kerry's 2004 campaign. I'd never heard of Politico or its Playbook. The name Barack Obama sounded only vaguely familiar...

Years later I confessed to one of The Guys that when I got to Iowa I didn't know what a caucus was.
She didn't know what a caucus was—and "the name Barack Obama sounded only vaguely familiar!" On what planet could this have occurred?

As we noted on Saturday, Chozick was dispatched to Iowa in October 2007. Obama had been a very big deal ever since the summer of 2004, when he made an instantly famous speech at the Democratic National Convention. He'd been a monumental big deal since he announced for president in February 2007, eight months before Chozick was dispatched to Iowa.

It's very, very hard to believe that Chozick is telling the truth when she says that Obama's name "sounded only vaguely familiar" when she journeyed to Iowa, where she says the people were huge. But if she's actually telling the truth, she's describing a very strange world—a world in which we're all living.

Of course, many things Chozick says in that interview, and in her mind-blowing book, describe a very strange world. Tomorrow, we're going to look at those first two statements to Chotiner, in which she makes an array of highly peculiar statements.

We'll also show you the full paragraph from her book in which she claims that Obama's name was only vaguely familiar. In that paragraph, she fleshes out the kinds of original "stories" she found when she went to Tokyo, setting the stage for her later assignment to Iowa, where she wrote about campaign hookups and her culture shock was huge.

Of this one thing we're going to warn you—Chozick has written one of the strangest books we've ever read. As Chotiner suggests in other questions he poses, she keeps describing the deeply fatuous world of the upper-end mainstream press—the fatuous world we've lamented at this site for more than twenty years.

Again and again, she moves beyond the merely fatuous and seems to light out for the inane. That said, it isn't like Chozick's alone. Under the weight of widespread journalistic inanity, our democracy has long been imploding. Chozick merely takes the inanity to a new, higher level.

Obama's name sounded vaguely familiar! As Shelley once so thoughtfully said, "Look on [the upper-end press corps'] Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

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    It's better this way. Any accidental knowledge in scribes' heads will certainly get in the way of them following the 'narrative' - doing their job.

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  2. "She didn't know what a caucus was—and "the name Barack Obama sounded only vaguely familiar!" On what planet could this have occurred?"

    Perhaps she didn't know about Obama because she was in Japan, where she perhaps had much less exposure to Obama and to American politics in general.

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  3. As Somerby likes to point out, even inexperienced young reporters have editors who are more experienced and whose job is to keep an eye on what the youngsters are writing.

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  4. The one statement sounds a little hyperbolic. "didn't know anything about Japan." Any high school graduate would obviously know something about Japan, but compared to actually being in Japan, or studying it a lot, that is pretty much nothing.

    I myself, do not find it strange that a 28 year old would not know what a caucus was. Because I did not know what a caucus was until I actually helped to run one in 2008 - when I was 46.

    And I lived in Iowa in 2000 (and was a strong Gore supporter). I did not go to the Iowa caucus in 2000, and I can no longer remember why. Was I working? Did I not know that I could go?

    I do not know where it was even.

    There was also a caucus in 2004 in Kansas that I did not make. In that case, I intended to go, even though Kerry was already the nominee, but forgot about it on the day of it. I think people said there were only a dozen people there - compared to 600 or so in 2008 and also 2016. (This in a county where about 9,000 will vote for the Democrat in a typical election).

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    I never believed in spell casting but After 6 years of dating my ex-lover she broke up with me, I still imagine how Dr. Sam brought my ex-lover back to me in just 48 hours. No one could have ever made me believe that there is a real spell caster that really works. Am Cherry by name, I want to quickly tell the world that there is a real online spell caster that is powerful and genuine, His name is Dr. Sam, He helped me recently to reunite my relationship with my ex-lover who left me, When I contacted Dr. Sam he cast a love spell for me and my ex-lover who said she doesn't have anything to do with me again called me and started begging me. She is back now with so much love and caring. today I am glad to let you all know that this spell caster has the powers of bringing lovers back. because I am now happy with my lover, and the most surprising, is that our love is very strong, every day is happiness and joy. and there is nothing like been with the woman you love. I am so happy my love is back to me with the help of Dr. Sam if you have similar problem or you want to fix your broken relationship, stop divorce, get your ex back, get your divorce wife or husband back, I will advise you to contact him ,he is there to help you and put a smile on your face ask he did to me and others. his email: (Supremespellcast@gmail.com Or Supremespellcast@yahoo.com) His WhatsApp number(+2347087462033)..

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  18. How i get my divorce husband back again with the good help of Dr. Trust powerful love spell...
    My name is Alicia Jane. When i read a testimony online on how Dr.Trust the great and most powerful spell caster help to bring back Divorce husband or wife EX LOVER. I was wondering how can this be true, Because many has failed me in the past without any result from them. I just let the post pass by and move on the forum. To my notice under again, Some person posted and said tested and trusted spell caster. After reading through the mail it was this same man Dr.Trust she was talking about. So i have no other option than to really check up how he works.I was totally devastated when my beloved husband left me. It was like my entire world vanishing into sorrow and pain. I know it sounds weird but out of all the spell casters I contacted, he was the only one to give me that impression of being so true and trustful. More than his words,He brought my husband back and he made all my wishes come true. He is now loyal, pays attention to me, he offers me flowers every Sunday, and we often go out at the cinema and the restaurant. my husband came to me and apologized for the wrongs he did and promise never to do it again. Ever since then, everything has returned back to normal. I and my family are living together happily again.. I will be forever thankful for turning my life from hell to heaven! i believe who need help should get to him for help. May God continue to use you to save broken relationship. To every one with marital problem, divorce issues, lost lover or any relationship related issues, you can contact Dr. Trust wonders the ultimate spell caster via email address Ultimatespellcast@gmail.com or Ultimatespellcast@yahoo.com

    His website: http://utimatespellcast.blogspot.com Call number +1 (317) 762-7416

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  19. Hello, I am Demetria Rogers. After being in relationship with my husband for years, he broke up with me. I did everything within my reach to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so badly because of the love I had for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to my friend and she suggested that I should rather contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back , I had no choice than to try it. I messaged the spell caster, and he assured me there was no problem and that everything will be okay before three days. He cast the spell and surprisingly on the second day, my husband called me. I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that he was so sorry for everything that had happened He wanted me to return to him. He also said he loved me so much. I was so happy and went to him that was how we started living together happily again. The spell casters email is : babayamideshrine@gmail.com You can email him if you need his assistance in your relationship or any other Case.

    Doctor Yamide could help you with the following:

    1) Love Spells

    2) Lost Love Spells

    3) Divorce Spells

    4) Marriage Spells

    5) Binding Spell.

    6) Breakup Spells

    7) Banish a past Lover

    8.) You want to be promoted in your office/ Lottery spell

    9) want to satisfy your lover

    Contact this great man if you are having any problem for a lasting solution through babayamideshrine@gmail.com

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  20. Hello,

    I'm Dr Ogudugu, a real and genuine spell caster/Spiritual healer with years of experience in spell casting and an expert in all spells, i specialize exclusively in LOVE SPELL/GET REUNITE WITH EX LOVER, MONEY SPELL, POWERFUL MAGIC RING, ANY COURT CASES, FRUIT OF THE WOMB, HIV CURE, CURE FOR CANCER, HERPES, DIABETE, HERPERTITIS B, PARKINSON’S HERBAL CURE, BECOMING A MERMAID, BECOMING A VAMPIRE, SAVE CHILD BIRTH. They are all %100 Guaranteed QUICK Results, it most work. If you have any problem and you need a real and genuine spell caster to solve your problems, contact me now through my personal Email Address with problem case...Note-you can also Text/Call on WhatsApp.

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  21. All thanks to the great doctor that help me to get back my boyfriend I thank you so much because you man of your words than anything he said will be done is a very good man I want to use opportunity thank Dr Ben and God shall bless him for getting my boyfriend back he is back to me now I didn't believe this at first until I put effort now my boyfriend is back I thank Dr Ben for the great work He has done for me I want him to keep doing this for other people are so that you can do it for me to thank you Dr Ben. And you can contact him at email DrBenspellcaster@gmail.com or whatsapp number +2348151642717. Now I believe you are the great spell caster Dr Ben.

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