BREAKING: The jaw-dropping book you should purchase today!

SATURDAY, APRIL 28, 2018

Also, What Donald Trump said:
In a word, Amy Chozick's new book, Chasing Hillary, is, in a word, jaw-dropping.

It's also a type of confession, though perhaps an unintentional example of same. It's a book you should purchase today. We aren't sure that we've ever read such a remarkable document.

To what inanity or cultural illness does the author confess? With an instant nod to Isaac Chotiner for this on-target interview, we'll only say this much today:

Chozick was sent to Iowa, in October 2007, to cover the Hillary Clinton campaign. She was sent there by the Wall Street Journal, a well-known newspaper for which she'd already worked for several years.

Chozick was 28 years old when she journeyed to Iowa, a state at which she constantly snarks. (People are too fat in Iowa, plus their cities are too small, and they don't have enough food restaurants.)

Chozick says that, when she went to Iowa, she didn't know what a caucus was. A million times more amazingly, she also says this, right there on page 51:

"The name Barack Obama sounded only vaguely familiar."

Say what? In October 2007, Obama's name sounded only vaguely familiar to Chozick? Readers, let's review:

Obama had become a Very Big Thing at the 2004 Democratic Convention. Two and a half years later, it had been a Very Big Deal when he made his formal announcement for president.

Obama made his formal announcement in Springfield, Illinois in February 2007. Within the world of American politics, Obama had been an extremely big deal from that cold winter day on.

And yet:

According to Chozick's peculiar confession, Obama's name was only vaguely familiar to her, eight months later, when she arrived in Iowa eight months later. She also says that when Clinton arrived on stage for the first town hall meeting Chozick covered, she, Chozick, "stood up from [her] seat and clapped," until a fellow reporter told her she shouldn't do that.

Chozick says she stood and clapped when Clinton came on stage. It's very, very hard to believe that she actually did that, but she actually names the Chicago Tribune reporter who, "tugging at the right side of [her] parka," managed to get our barefoot girl with zero knowledge but plenty of cheek back into her seat.

We've only read the first 56 pages of Chozick's appalling book. On virtually every page, it reads like a very strange confession by a very peculiar "journalist."

Over and over and over and over, it reads like a strange set of revelations from within an extremely strange journalistic culture. We've rarely read a stranger book, or a more striking anthropological work.

That said: concerning our failing press corps culture, consider what Donald Trump said.

We refer to Trump's remarks on Thursday morning concerning Michael Cohen. On cable, pundits thrashed his remarks all day long, then on into the night. We refer to these specific remarks, delivered on Fox & Friends:
DOOCY (4/26/18): Mr. President, how much of your legal work was handled by Michael Cohen?

TRUMP: Well, he has a percentage of my overall legal work—a tiny, tiny little fraction. But Michael would represent me and represent me on some things.

He represents me, like with this crazy Stormy Daniels deal, he represented me and, you know, from what I see, he did absolutely nothing wrong.
Speaking of our broken press culture, Trump was speking with Steve Doocy, one of the most ridiculous figures within a ridiculous guild.

All day long, pundits battered Trump for saying that Cohen did "a tiny, tiny little fraction" of his legal work. Logic went on holiday, as it so typically does on our corporate "cable news" programs.

Let's examine the basic logic of what Donald Trump said. As any child can see, he said the vast bulk of his legal work has been handled by other lawyers—not by Barrister Cohen.

Almost surely, that's accurate. In fact, we don't know if Cohen has ever handled any "legal work" for Trump.

(If you hire a lawyer to rob a bank, that isn't "legal work." Your communications won't be protected under terms of attorney-client privilege.)

Has Cohen done any actual legal work for Donald J. Trump at all? We have no way of knowing. But duh! To the extent that he has done legal work, that work would be protected by attorney-client privilege.

It wouldn't matter that other lawyers had handled more of Trump's work. The legal work that Cohen had done would, of course, be protected.

All day long, we hadn't seen a single pundit articulate that blindingly obvious distinction. Pundits stampeded off to say or suggest that Trump had undermined his and Cohen's right to claim legal privilege with that crazy remark about the vast amount of work other lawyers had done.

Barrister Bluster even implied that Trump had done himself in! Under terms of current cable law, that had to mean it was true!

Then, it actually happened! During The Eleventh Hour, Jennifer Rodgers showed that she understood the logic of what Trump said, though she didn't quite seem to want to cop to that fact.

Brian Williams played tape of Trump's remarks, then threw to Rodgers. Fifteen hours into the latest cable stampede, we finally saw a TV pundit voice an obvious distinction, though she quickly moved to undercut her own remarks:
WILLIAMS (4/26/18): Let's turn to our lead-off panel on a Thursday night. Jennifer Rodgers back with us, former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, now the Executive Director for Columbia Law School Center for the Advancement of Public Integrity...

Jennifer, it was interesting to watch all this sitting next to you in our studios here in New York. I'll keep your reactions between us, but what did Donald Trump do today, in your legal view, to his own case and that of Michael Cohen?

RODGERS: Well, there were really three things that stuck out to me kind of from a legal perspective. You know, the first is this comment about how much legal work Michael Cohen did for him.

You know, Michael Cohen's attorneys are in there in the Southern District of New York trying to kind of claim a broad privilege so that the prosecutors get as few documents as possible. And here's the president in there saying, "Well, you know, I have a lot of lawyers. He did very little legal work for me."

That's not exactly the same as saying of all the things he did for me, not much of it is legal. Those are two different things.
But still, he's generally kind of backing away from the notion that he wants a broad assertion of privilege here, which is different from when he was tweeting out that, you know, the attorney-client privilege was dead and that sort of thing.
"Those are two different things!" Rodgers showed that she understood the distinction between these two possible statements:
He didn't do most of my legal work.
He didn't do any of my legal work.
Duh! Rodgers showed that she understood the difference! Then, she backed away from what she'd just said, moving on to tell Brian what Donald J. Trump had "generally kind of" done.

Just a guess! Everyone else, all day long, had misinterpreted Trump's remark. Rodgers didn't want to assume the burden that would come with saying that. On cable news, with its millionaire hosts, such things simply aren't done!

Let's return to our basic point. What possible difference would it make if other lawyers had done the bulk of Trump's legal work? That would have zero effect on any legal work Cohen had done for Trump.

Any such work by Cohen would still be protected by attorney-client privilege. But over the course of a long, silly day, Rodgers was the first person we saw who was able to state this distinction, even in a fleeting manner.

That said, pundit culture and cable culture run on stampede, not on logic. Sadly but typically, this is what Our Own Rhodes Scholar had said two hours earlier:
MADDOW (4/26/18): I watched the president's remarks in this remarkable cable news interview that he did today, and obviously the president's emotional state was one of the takeaways that you couldn't avoid. But the president made really specific remarks about what seems to me to be the central case that he and Michael Cohen have been making to try to fend off this federal investigation in New York. He seemed to undercut that claim by saying Mr. Cohen doesn't do much legal work for him and he doesn't believe anything Cohen is being investigated for touches on his legal practice as an attorney.
The utterly bogus, it burns! As she is inclined to do, Maddow had granted herself the right to embellish, indeed misstate, Donald J. Trump's remarks.

Readers, please! At no point had Trump said that "he doesn't believe anything Cohen is being investigated for touches on his legal practice as an attorney." In fact, as you can see in the passage we posted above, Trump said exactly the opposite! That bogus remark was pure invention on the Rhodes scholar's part.

In fairness, everyone else had bungled the logic of Trump's remarks every since that morning. It was now 9 PM, so Maddow improved what Trump said, making her presentation even more definitive, and even more pleasing, than everyone else's had been.

Moments later, legal expert Barbara McQuade failed to correct what Maddow had said. But that's the way the game is played on big-time partisan cable.

All day long, pundits wildly over-interpreted that comment by Trump. Federal prosecutors even made silly claims in court that day—claims which were cheered by our pundits.

(Especially on Maddow's show, accusations by prosecutors can never be faulty or wrong.)

All day and all night, pundits stampeded, claiming Trump had ruined his case. But uh-oh! The following morning, up jumped the Washington Post, saying the judge's decision that day had been "a win for Cohen."

In short, the judge didn't buy what the prosecutors said! That said, watching cable, who knew?

That foolishness happened this Thursday. Eleven years earlier, Amy Chozick was sent to Iowa to cover the Clinton complain.

Obama's name sounded only vaguely familiar to the Wall Street Journal scribe. On Monday,we'll start discussing her other confessions, which seem to occur on every page as we read her remarkable book.

Chotiner cut to the heart of the matter
. Chozick's answers are so bad that the interview's quite hard to read.

65 comments:

  1. First Somerby says we should read Chozick's book. Then he calls it appalling.

    I don't waste my time reading appalling books.

    Somerby still hasn't read Clinton's own book about her campaign, What Happened. If he did read it, he might have a different view of her, of Bernie, and of who he should vote for in 2020.

    I felt the greatest sense of loss about Gore's election after watching "An Inconvenient Truth." That brought home most forcefully what might have been. Reading Clinton's book is the same. It isn't only that Trump is so bad a president but that we lost so much when Clinton didn't take office.

    What does Somerby waste our time with this garbage? Who cares whether Chozick knew who Obama was at the beginning of the 2008 campaign? The NY Times had a minuscule effect on the 2016 election, especially given that Clinton took New York overwhelmingly, both in the primaries and the general election. Chozick's efforts weren't important. The Russians and Comey and voter suppression were important. Why doesn't Somerby complain that the NY Times are covering these issues insufficiently? That is today's scandal.

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    1. The Russians and Comey and voter suppression were important. Why doesn't Somerby complain that the NY Times are covering these issues insufficiently?

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    2. 'The Russians and Comey and voter suppression were important. Why doesn't Somerby complain that the NY Times are covering these issues insufficiently?'

      Because Somerby's goal is to defend Trump and act as a useless idiot for him.

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    3. “The Russians and Comey and voter suppression were important.”

      Voter suppression and Comey were very important since they were the real reasons why Trump won, and they are the ones for which we have ample evidence. Therefore, Dems and the mass-media have chosen to concoct the Russian nonsense to distract from the blinding reality of a criminally fraudulent US electoral system.

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  2. "To what inanity or cultural illness does the author confess?"

    Lib-zombieism, phase four?

    "In fact, as you can see in the passage we posted above, Trump said exactly the opposite!"

    Who cares. Trump is The Satan, everything He says is utterly Evil. It reveals His Evil purpose, His Evil nature. End of story.

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    1. Nah. Trump is standard issue Conservative Republican grifter. The fact that the corporate-owned media keeps making believe otherwise, is the tell.

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    2. If he is standard issue, why is it that you and your dembot twins can't stop talking about him? Now, that's a tell.

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    3. As opposed to your obsession with 'liberal zombies".
      It's OK, Mao. You're a dipshit Conservative. you're not supposed to notice your projection.

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    4. Even the most primitive dembot should've noticed that it is, in fact, Bob who's obsessed with liberal zombies. And all I do is commenting, occasionally, on his observations. So, take it up with Bob, dear.

      But I'm real glad you agreed with my 2:19 PM from yesterday.

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    5. "commenting, occasionally"

      Aww, and right when you were so close to not making something up because it makes you feel good about your awful life.
      Keep trying. You'll get there.

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  3. Well before Donald Trump entered the race, NYT writers and editors, analysts, and columnists (except for Paul Krugman), made up their minds that she could not possibly be honest, that she was NOT patriotic, and that she was running to serve her ego, not to serve our country. The Times believed her procedures for handling email when she was SOS was far more consequential than Donald Trump's 40+ years of (uncharged) criminal personal and business behavior. Time and money were devoted to reporting any and all negative minutiae about Hillary while major (uncharged) crimes of Trump were not investigated and not reported.

    More than 20 years ago, William Safire called Hillary Clinton a "congenital liar". Nearly everyone at the Times then and now agreed. Hillary was never given the benefit of the doubt by the Times. God forbid that the Times grant Hillary leeway. Time and again, Trump and the Right were given and continue to be given great leeway, so the Times may report "both sides" and be "balanced".

    The Times has NOT apologized for its poor judgment. Hillary's campaign is over. Amy Chozick was proud of her poor judgment then and remains so now.

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    1. Safire was a speechwriter for Nixon and a "libertarian conservative." He voted for Bill Clinton, then became a critic of him. The remark about Hillary was made while she was first lady, not a candidate, and neither Bill nor Hillary refuted any of his comments.

      It goes without saying that Bernie and Hillary both were judged mostly truthful by fact checkers during the 2016 election, Bernie only slightly more than Hillary and both were hugely more truthful than other candidates. This has been true for Hillary other campaigns as well. She doesn't tell lies.

      The label stuck because the right doesn't have to be correct in its attacks. It just throws as much mud as possible and frequently as possible. Many writers at the NY Times were opposed to Clinton and wrote horrible things.

      The left is hardly blameless when it has routinely failed to defend Hillary against any of the garbage coming from the right, going back to when Safire made his comment. Bill and Hillary Clinton did not dignify his attack by refuting it, because they understood and respected the dignity of the office. Trump wouldn't have hesitated. But the Democratic party should have had their backs and it didn't because they had ambivalent feelings about Bill Clinton (before Monica) because he was not part of the Democratic establishment, was Southern, and managed to win without their support. This began the tradition of leaving Hillary twisting in the wind instead of defending her aggressively.

      There is a lot of shame to go around. Somerby still reflects that ambivalence. He couldn't find two nice words about Clinton to put into the same sentence. He has a lot of nerve these days complaining about Chozick.

      Don't spend money on her book.

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  4. "In short, the judge didn't buy what the prosecutors said! That said, watching cable, who knew?"

    Somerby is wrong about this. The judge appointed someone other than Trump and his attorney(s) to go through the seized papers, because Trump directly contradicted his own assertion that most of the papers concerned presidential business affecting national security and thus should be reviewed by the president. Having a third-party, not Trump, review the papers was NOT a win for Trump.

    The trial has been delayed for 3 months because the judge said she thinks it is likely Cohen will be indicted. The delay is helpful to Cohen but it is hard to argue that the reason given is a "win" for him.

    Somerby wants to nitpik the coverage of this case but I don't think he has the legal knowledge to do so. Parsing logic of extemporaneous time-filling by pundits seems like a waste of everyone's time.

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  5. When the Times has doubts about the Right, the paper gives the Right a TON of salt. When the Times has doubts about the Left, the paper gives the Left a TEASPOON of salt.

    One ton equals 96,000 teaspoons. The Left gets 1 teaspoon of salt.

    Considering the Clintons problems with Whitewater in 1992, claims that Al Gore was a stick in the mud and dishonest in 1999, and Hillary Clinton’s “email mismanagement” between 2009 and 2012, reported extensively in 2015 and 2016, the ratio of 96,000 to 1 UNDERSTATES how much the Times has given the Right the benefit of the doubt while NOT giving the benefit of the doubt at all to the left.

    BUT

    The Right continues to say the New York Times is biased to the Left, no matter how much and how often the Times gives the Right the benefit of the doubt. The Times continues to give into the Right while NOT giving the Left the benefit of the doubt. How often did the Times report that Hillary Clinton was consistently the most honest of any of the candidates running for office? Sixteen years before, how often did the Times report that Al Gore was far, far more honest than W? To find that news, you had to read the Washington Post.

    The Right always attacks the Times and always says the Times is biased against the Right, no matter what the Times does. The Times reacts by going further to the Right, by giving the Right the benefit of the doubt, by hiring Right wing op ed columnists, by printing guest op eds from the far Right, and by framing news stories from a Right wing perspective, NOT from the center, and certainly NOT from the Left.

    What hurts the most is the Times never said in a news story, in a news analysis, in an editorial, or even in an op ed, that Hillary Clinton was running for President because she wanted to serve our country. I do not recall the Times ever saying Hillary Clinton was and is an American patriot.

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      ...This leads us to the next part of this drama: Starting in March 1999, it was mainstream press organs in “Establishment Washington” which began to wage a long, strange war against Bill Clinton’s vice president, the man who hadn’t condemned Clinton harshly enough. “We’re going to make him jump through the hoops,” Roger Simon would soon announce. But Simon came from the mainstream press corps–from U.S. News & World Report–not from its conservative counterpart.

      Right from the start, one major paper stood out as this war took shape. That paper was the Washington Post, the heart of the mainstream press establishment. Right from the start, the Washington Post seemed to be in a state of war with Candidate Gore. And Ceci Connolly was destined to serve as the paper's most visible soldier.

      Connolly was the Post’s Gore reporter for the full twenty months of Campaign 2000. From her work in the campaign’s first few months, it began to seem that a war was being waged from inside the mainstream establishment. The New York Times was often fatuous as the long campaign began– but the Washington Post was baldly aggressive. Right from the start, the war against Gore was a war of the Post– a war of the mainstream press corps.

      Connolly was 35 years of age when Campaign 2000 began. She had graduated from Boston College in 1985; she then had worked for a string of mainstream news organizations, including the Associated Press. In 1996, she covered Bob Dole’s presidential campaign for the St. Petersburg Times. The next year, she was hired away by the Washington Post, heralded as a “rising star” in the star-savvy Washingtonian.

      In March 1999, Connolly was assigned to cover Gore, a post she would hold throughout the campaign. In the early months, she too wrote analyses of what she called Gore's “widely known wooden caricature.” She did the Clinton/Gore contrast pieces, focusing on “the body language between the empathetic president and his ramrod stiff deputy.” Needless to say, “Clinton and Gore were a study in contrasts," with “Gore's stylistic weaknesses...magnified by Clinton's strengths.”

      In June, Connolly wrote her mocking profile of Gore. In it, “the man best known for his statue imitation” had “even giggled like a girl” at an issues conference, “positively wallowing in the sheer density” of the subject matter “while his aides struggled to stay awake.”

      These were fairly standard portraits, widely churned in the press. But Connolly did a set of early news reports which truly stood out from the pack. In retrospect, these pieces seem to suggest that the Washington Post was at war with this candidate right from the start. The mainstream press corps as a whole would soon be marching to war with this man– a man they would portray as a LIAR. But at the start, it was Connolly, and her editors, who made the call to arms clear.

      For the most part, Connolly's early attacks on Gore failed to shape the subsequent coverage. It wasn't until the fall of 1999 that her sour tone, and blatant mistakes, began to drive the wider coverage, in deeply unfortunate ways. But Connolly’s early reports did help establish the tone of the coverage. The Washington Post was at war with Al Gore–and Connolly's early work showed it....
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      [There's a whole lot more on the Washington Post's coverage of Al Gore during the 1999-2000 presidential campaign from the same writer. Check him out some time.]

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    2. I sit corrected at my desk. I did not realize the Washington Post was as bad or worse than the Times on Al Gore.

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    4. Big Guy, Cmike always delivers. I don't always agree with him, of course, nor do I always agree with Bob, but I do wish I could write as well as they do. This site, at least, gives you the chance to hone your chops.

      As Cmike demonstrated here, Bob has some pretty serious archives that can't be ignored when making a critique of the press.

      And Cmike, along with Raven (wonder where that guy's been) got me started attempting to write html. You're at a great site if you want to learn new things, given an open mind. Bob's lens on issues seem to infuriate some people in the comment section. They often have some good points. And I suppose it could use some tending. But all you really need to do is ignore the trolls, a moniker which I think could be appended to me at times. Hell, I suppose I might be doing it now. And perhaps I’m being trolled. Who knows? Hard to tell. So I’ll re-post something that pretty much describes where Bob’s view has been made plain lo, these many years.

      LINK

      Leroy

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    5. "Could?"

      BWAHAHAHA!

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    6. I forgot to mention all the others I value (as if it really matters), like mm, Caesar, Dave the Guitar Player, even DinC - many others I forget at the moment. And the numerous anons of course.

      It's not all about trolling here, is all I'm saying. Though the temptation gets to all of us sometimes.

      Leroy

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  6. LORD.

    First Bob convincingly berates a book that, after all, he should complete before even talking about. Then he commits and embarrasing error equal to anything Chozick is likely to match in the remainder of her tome.
    Duh. the problem, BOB, you incredible nincompoop, was that Trump ADMITTED COHEN WAS HANDLING STORMY DANIELS FOR HIM, something he had previously denied. I know this subject makes Bob a little crazy, and Avenatti's seemingly effective on air pursuit of Trump has ruduced Bob to frazzled name calling, but this is just gross incometence on Bob's part. Glad he's big on attorney client privilege, which by the way, does not always protect illegal activity.

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  7. I clicked thru and read the CHOTINER-CHOZICK interview. I did not find it "hard to read" nor did I think Chozick's answers were "bad" -- they were her answers.

    I do wonder if Anonymous commenting above will ever get tired.

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    1. No tireder than Bob himself. He could change his comment section to require id's. But until he does, there will be Anonymous commenting.

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  8. Somerby: "At no point had Trump said that "he doesn't believe anything Cohen is being investigated for touches on his legal practice as an attorney." In fact, as you can see in the passage we posted above, Trump said exactly the opposite!At no point had Trump said that "he doesn't believe anything Cohen is being investigated for touches on his legal practice as an attorney." In fact, as you can see in the passage we posted above, Trump said exactly the opposite!At no point had Trump said that "he doesn't believe anything Cohen is being investigated for touches on his legal practice as an attorney." In fact, as you can see in the passage we posted above, Trump said exactly the opposite!"

    The utterly bogus, it burns! As he is inclined to do, Bob granted himself the right to embellish, indeed misstate both Trump and Maddow's remarks.

    The quotation of Trump Bob posted makes no reference at all to what Trump thinks the Cohen invedstigation is about. And Maddow correctly paraphrases remarks Trump made earlier in his Fox N Friends Phone Frenzy.

    TRUMP:And I don’t know his business, but this doesn’t have to do with me. Michael is a businessman. He's got a business. He also practices law. I would say probably the big thing is his business, and they're looking at something having to do with his business. I have nothing to do with his business."

    Bob Somerby. So Maddowesque it's embarrassing.

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    1. Lies in the defense of Trump are no vice -- Somerby

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  10. There is a word for what the media is doing to Trump. The word is "gaslighting".

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    1. It doesn't always work. They've been trying to "gaslight" me into believing Trump voters aren't turned on by his bigotry, for almost 2 years.

      I just remind them that, though I was born at night, it wasn't last night.

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    2. AnonymousApril 28, 2018 at 10:24 PM - under Trump's leadership, black unemployment and Hispanic unemployment are both at record low levels. Is your opposition to Trump turned on by bigotry against blacks and Hispanics?

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    3. 10:14,
      No, but I'd be thrilled to see ads running non-stop in the "Heartland of America", during the mid-terms, specifically mentioning how much better hispanics and blacks have it under the the Trump Presidency, then do whites.

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    4. "Trump voters think the system is rigged against them by forces they dont have the power to control."

      No wonder they want the elites of Wall Street in positions of power over them.
      Or is this the old, "we're not bigots, we're morons, so there!" excuse?

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    5. No they got played. The feelings of powerlessness are real. As you know, Trump didn't promise them to put Wall Street people in positions of power. That wasn't the platform they chose.

      Feel free to think that they are all bigots.

      I'm just suggesting you might want to consider they are people who see a huge divide between rich and poor and many institutions that are corrupt and squeezing them dry and an aristocracy developing that doesn't allow for much room for them to succeed. Someone came along and leveraged those feelings for their own gain and they got played. Morons? I don't look at it like that. I don't think it's a choice between bigots or morons. Good people get suckered all the time, it's always been true.

      Feel free to continue to think they're all bigots. Let's see how that works out for you. :)

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    6. 12:20: I don't believe your myth. I know plenty of trump voters and not a one of them were worried about the system being rigged against them. Most of them are very well off living a charmed life. They voted out of hate. Why can't you just accept that? Do you think David in sunny California our resident troll is economically anxious? Seriously?

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    7. Hate of blacks and mexicans? Hate of what? If it's hate of anything, it's of liberals like you and me.

      But it's impossible to generalize such a large group. I should never have done it.

      I think there's something to be said about the need to change of the existing system that is motivating a lot of voters on both sides. If the Trump voters you know are not worried about a rigged system, they should be. Because the system is rigged against them, you, me pretty severely.

      Like Obama, Trump promised change. That's really the secret sauce.

      Or maybe it's just that they all hate blacks. :)

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    8. You're right about that. They do hate liberals like you and me. You have to ask yourself why that is.

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    9. Why do you think that is? Obviously a lot of it comes from the organized propagandists on the right. Some of it may be from the weakness we project and our refusal to embrace individualism. Or ... what are you saying? It's because they hate blacks?

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    10. We seem to have come full circle.

      As I said to begin with, it has nothing to do with being worried about the system being rigged against them. At least that applies to the people I know who voted for Trump. These are very well off people living a comfortable middle class existence or better.

      Yes, prejudice does enter into the equation. You can deny it and insist that we stop talking about it but I cannot deny the reality I have seen with my own eyes, in my own experience. Perhaps that explains part of the reason they hate "liberals", because we as liberals are tagged with being SJWs, using government programs to try to provide the same opportunities for advancement to all Americans.

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    11. "Perhaps that explains part of the reason they hate "liberals", because we as liberals are tagged with being SJWs, using government programs to try to provide the same opportunities for advancement to all Americans."

      Yes. I agree. That is a big turnoff to a lot of people. That doesn't make them prejudiced though.

      They might think SJWarriorism is a mask for low self-esteem, defeatism, self-hatred, etc. and that liberals should just take care if themselves, realize their power and value and express that to the world before worrying about others.

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    12. "... and that liberals should just take care if themselves, realize their power and value and express that to the world before worrying about others."

      Does your comments come with subtitles that I missed?

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    13. Are you one of those liberals the demands Oxford Commas?

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  11. My theory is that Somerby was given a free review copy of the book and that's why he is telling people to buy it. Bob, you don't have to promote the book, just because they gave you a free book.

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  13. The jaw-dropping book sounds boring. The past is dead. Hillary lost. Move on. The future is what mattters

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  26. Henderson Elizabeth
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  32. Hello My name is Monica, Am from USA, Texas. and I am very happy for posting on this blog on how a great spell caster helped me in bringing back the love of my life. I know there are lots of women like me out there who have done so much to have their Husband back, I am here to tell you all to search no further because the answer is right here. I sincerely believe if there are up to five spell casters like Dr Landy this world would be a better place, I have seen people complaining on how fake spell castes promised to help them but couldn’t but with Dr Landy I tell you your problem is solved already. My Husband and I had been apart for 4 YEARS and I couldn’t bear without living with him, I have tried everything to have him back but nothing was working until I saw numerous testimonies about a spell caster called Dr Landy and how great his work is. I contacted him via email landylovespell@gmail.com immediately and followed the step that he asked and in less than 48 hours my lover called me and was eager for my forgiveness and that he wished nothing more than to have me in his arms forever. I felt so much joy and happiness that I found Dr Landy , I hope you all here will find this testimony of mine and get your husband back in just 48 hours thanks… contact his email: landylovespell@gmail.com or landylovespell@yahoo.com you can whatsApp him +2347053160384

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