BREAKING: Breakaway pundits stage late-night revolt!

SATURDAY, MAY 26, 2018

Kornacki triggers jailbreak:
It's one of our most frequently-asked questions:

Does it embarrass us when the accolades come rolling in, even from a wide array of international experts? When the experts say, for the ten millionth time, that our incomparable judgment has been proven right again?

Our answer, quite simply, is yes. For that reason, let's go straight to the late-night cable revolt triggered by Steve Kornacki.

First though, a bit of the same-old same-old, as performed by Jake Tapper and guests. We start with what Kirsten Powers told Tapper yesterday, just after 4:30 PM.

Yesterday's dramatics began when Kristen Soltis Anderson engaged in a standard play. She told Tapper what the FBI didn't do during "Informant-gate," as opposed to what the FBI actually did.

What they did was "not the same thing as the FBI sort of paying someone who was a senior-level campaign official working in Trump Tower," Anderson said. In this way, she helped us memorize one more thing the FBI hadn't done.

At that point, Powers jumped in, eventually saying this:
POWERS (5/25/18): It's a perfectly straightforward thing that happened. They had been warned by the FBI that they could possibly be infiltrated. So why is it so surprising that the FBI would be talking to people?

TAPPER: By Russians, you mean.

POWERS: Oh yeah, by the Russians.
What happened was "perfectly straightforward," Powers said. The FBI was just "talking to people!"

To help establish her point, she executed a standard play. She didn't mention the various things which happened which weren't "straightforward" at all!

(At the start of her own remarks, Anderson had done the same thing. "It sounds like, from what we've learned, that you had a professor who contacted some of the folks in the campaign. They had some correspondence." So Anderson said, omitting the part "we've learned" in which this contact was surreptitious, with one of the "folks in the campaign" being paid $3000 to fly across the Atlantic Ocean and waste a load of his time, all under false pretenses.)

Tapper, Powers and Anderson were playing the game which has now been played for a week. They were omitting the parts of the FBI's conduct which weren't "perfectly straightforward." This let them tell you how straightforward the FBI's conduct had been!

Over on Fox News, viewers are now being shown videotape of such clownish deceptions. Quite correctly, this conduct is being ridiculed. Last night, Tucker Carlson even described this repetitive tribal bullshit as "lying," Ironically, it's one of our tribe's favorite words!

At any rate, that's what happened in yesterday's 4 PM hour. Later, just after 11 PM, a cable news jailbreak occurred.

Steve Kornacki was guest hosting, permitting Brian to head for the Hamptons one day early on his latest vacation. And it's starting to seem that Kornacki has possibly had enough of the general rolling deception.

Good God! In a question to Ken Dilanian of NBC News, Kornacki did the unthinkable. He said the FBI had contacted members of the Trump campaign "under false pretenses."

(Earlier, Kornacki has used the same phrase while guest-hosting on Hardball. This allowed Chris Matthews to get to Nantucket one day early. Internationally, experts speculated that he'd drawn the phraseology from us!)

The FBI had contacted members of the Trump campaign "under false pretenses!" To his credit, Kornacki didn't tell viewers what he meant by this astounding statement. But he referred to the FBI's "false pretenses" at two separate points as he tossed to Dilanian, and Dilanian, suitably triggered, ended up saying this:
DILANIAN (5/25/18): Actually, it is important. I think we shouldn't minimize what happened here.

The FBI ran at least one informant at three Americans who work on a presidential campaign. That is a big deal,
and it properly should be examined.

Republicans should be asking how that happened, who approved it, on what basis.
But you know, knowing the way the FBI operates, and knowing the sensitivity of investigating a presidential campaign, you have to believe that that decision was approved at the highest levels, even by the attorney general of the United States...
Can Ken Dilanian say that?

Using murky but unflattering language, he said the FBI "ran an informant at" those three folks in the Trump campaign. Given "the sensitivity of investigating a presidential campaign," he even said that the agency's conduct should be examined!

He went on to say that the FBI had "very good reason" to do what it did. He said he was sure that the agency had "followed every procedure." After all, when has former director James B. Comey ever broken protocols?

Still and all, good lord! Kornacki actually told cable viewers that the "perfectly straightforward thing that happened," in which a professor "contacted some folks," had been done "under false pretenses!" Dilanian had then crazily said that this conduct should be examined, given the sensitivity of investigating a presidential campaign!
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For the record, Dilanian got a bit more excited than we ourselves would have. It's also true that the nature of those "false pretenses" was never detailed or described.

Still, Kornacki and Dilanian had staged a cable news jailbreak. They'd inched past the apple pie version of these events, the version trusting cable viewers have been sold for a week.

Presumably, the breakaway pundits have already been summoned to dungeon-like cable classrooms for reeducation services. With their arms pulled back behind them, they've received a scolding review of last evening's DFS—their appalling Departures From Script.

On the other hand, who knows? As liberal conduct is mocked on Fox—as Trump's approvals keep inching up—maybe the bosses at our sad cable channels will decide to be a bit less dishonest about matters like this. Maybe viewers will be told what those "false pretenses" actually were when the infallible Comey the God exercised his infallible judgment.

Our liberal team has been getting killed on this endless bullshit. In the process, our favorite corporate stars have been treating us like fools every step of the way.

Last night, two breakaway pundits donned life vests and abandoned script. Earlier, Tapper, Powers and Anderson had continued to behave.

They served their viewers the tapioca demanded by tribal script. Their viewers were treated like viewers of Fox. We almost thought we heard Dylan singing, "Liberals! How does it feeeeeeel?"

A note on method: We'd like to show you fuller versions on what was said on these programs. Unfortunately, neither CNN nor MSNBC has posted its transcripts yet. This lets their employees start their holiday weekend early, but it means that we have had to do all the transcribing ourselves.

We'll only do so much of their scutwork for them. They're lazy, indolent, worthless, no good—and as you may have noticed by now, they don't even know how to win!

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  1. You can drop this now, Bob. Trump's disinformation campaign was a dud.

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  2. Stevenson, Kennedy, and Johnson were all approached by the Russians and were rebuffed and the overtures were reported. The Trumpies took the meetings and the NRA seems to have taken the money. Just what is the problem?

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  3. Somerby: "He [Kornacki] said the FBI had contacted members of the Trump campaign "under false pretenses."

    Actually, the FBI didn't contact those members, they used an informant, someone who was not employed by the FBI, not an agent or employee of the FBI. That person didn't identify himself as working for the FBI, because he wasn't. He contacted those staff as himself and the pretenses were not false because he was not working for the FBI. He simply passed along information gained in the context of his talks with those individuals. It would have been false pretenses if he had represented himself as working for the FBI. Any citizen can pass along info to the FBI (or other law enforcement). That is why they are called informants.

    Anderson said that Papadopoulos wasted his time writing that paper. Not necessarily. We don't know what the paper was used for. Since no paper was commissioned from the other campaign members, it may be the information was useful in itself, that it served multiple purposes. Because Papadopoulos was paid for his time, he didn't waste it, any more than any of us who do work waste our time.

    So, those late night pundits may be breaking away, but that whole false pretenses nonsense is wrong and not an improvement on previous discussions. It implies the informant did something wrong -- he didn't. He served his country by aiding the FBI in an important investigation. He never claimed to be anything he wasn't and never misrepresented himself. He merely asked some questions useful to the FBI, along with whatever else he talked to those people about.

    But Somerby wants to beat up liberals and liberal pundits, so Somerby misrepresents what happened and in so doing promotes the White House story line and obscures the truth about what citizens do when a foreign enemy power tries to subvert our government and electoral process. Good people call the FBI. Scummy people like Trump and his campaign ignore who they are talking to and see only the benefit to themselves, not the harm to others, and greedily lap up whatever is offered to them, letting the wolf in the door.

    Somerby cannot see this. Why? What is wrong with him? He seems to illustrate that all those years of philosophy, including ethics and moral philosophy, are not help when senility sets in.

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  4. "Last night, Tucker Carlson even described this repetitive tribal bullshit as "lying," Ironically, it's one of our tribe's favorite words!"

    Yeah, I know. Could've never imagined I'd say this, but here it is: Tucker Carlson is, undeniably, the best -- the very best, by a mile -- talking head on the establishment TV.

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    1. For a Few Kopeks MoreMay 26, 2018 at 10:11 PM

      Big surprise - Russian troll {hearts} white-power pimp.

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    2. Wow! coming from you praise for Tucker will cause us to reappraise a lot of things! Like the building we hope you jump off of!

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  5. "they don't even know how to win!"

    It isn't clear who Somerby is talking about with this parting shot, but if it is liberals, it is false.

    We won twice with Obama. Clinton was winning aside from the demonstrable effects of election tampering by Comey and Russian hacking. We have won the culture wars, which is what this Trump backlash is actually about. Cheating is always a sign that someone is losing.

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  6. The only person I've ever heard refer to Comey as Comey the God is Somerby.

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    1. Jonny Scrum-halfMay 26, 2018 at 4:52 PM

      FYI, for a long time Bob was the only one pointing out that the MSM treated Gore poorly in 1999-2000, and that Susan Rice was being mischaracterizes about the Benghazi incident.

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    2. What does that have to do with Somerby calling Comey "Comey the God" and blaming it on us?

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    3. Jonny Scrum-halfMay 26, 2018 at 6:04 PM

      How is he blaming "us" - and who is "us"? He's said from the time of Comey's press conference about Clinton in the summer of 2016 that the press was giving Comey too much credit, and once again that view is now the prevailing opinion.

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    4. "What does that have to do with Somerby calling Comey "Comey the God" and blaming it on us?"

      It's called moving the goalposts.

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    5. Chris Hayes never praised Comey. The day Comey's first announcement about Hillary's emails came out in the summer of 2016, his guest, Matt Miller, sharply denounced Comey's actions. Rachel, as Bob said, didn't discuss Comey until the fall. So Somerby's narrative doesn't even fit the facts of MSNBC's cable shows.

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    6. I'll smack you.in the face

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    7. It's one of Bob's dumbest jokes. The closest to being considered a "God" was the take on the right when Comey was crapping on Hillary Clinton.

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    8. I'll hit ya in the lip.

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    9. The Daily Howler is a blog, specifically, it is a journal of its author's thoughts and observations posted on the web six days a week focusing primarily on the Main Stream Media's info-tainmant output regarding national politics. At times the blog employs its own unique terminology as a shorthand summation of for an overarching point Bob Somerby is making on various issues and which has a meaning that is clear to most of us who read his blog regularly.

      For those who can't make heads nor tails of Somerby's terminology after reading his blog for a few weeks even with blogger's search engine available to them, surely they would be better off spending their time reading something else.


      LINK

      [QUOTE]
      Comey watch: Milbank gives us Comey the God!

      MONDAY, JULY 11, 2016

      Just as it ever has been: Back in 1935, novelist Robert Graves gave us Claudius the God.

      The novel was a sequel to Graves' previous effort, I, Claudius. According to the leading authority, "the Modern Library ranked I, Claudius fourteenth on its list of the 100 best English-language novels of the 20th century."

      Was the emperor Claudius really a god? We can't exactly tell you. But just last Wednesday, a leading "journalist" presented us with his successor:

      He gave us Comey the God.

      Dana Milbank performed the service in the Washington Post. Believe it or not, his column bore this headline:

      "On Clinton's emails, no 'reasonable person' can disagree with Comey"

      Imagine! Comey, the head of the FBI, had just unloosed a set of pronouncements. Displaying the unmistakable world view of the modern Potemkin press corps, Milbank announced that no reasonable person could disagree with his great decrees!

      You'll note that Milbank's editor put quotation marks around two words in that headline. In the body of his piece, Milbank performed no such dodge.

      Skepticism be damned! Milbank quoted at length from Comey's "powerful rebuke of Clinton's conduct." He then quoted Comey saying that no reasonable prosecutor would bring criminal charges in the Clinton case.

      Plainly, these were the decrees of a god! Here's the way Milbank ended...
      [END QUOTE]

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    10. To the Romans, Gods were not mythology or religion, they were real. Part of their belief system was that a mortal emperor could become a god, literally, if he did the right things. Claudius first became emperor through a series of ironic disasters and intrigues befalling others and by keeping a low profile. The reference to Claudius the God in Graves' sequel is similarly ironic. Emperors didn't become Gods by public acclaim or being anointed. So Somerby's use of Claudius doesn't really work very well -- his reticence was the opposite of Comey's behavior. I find it annoying when Somerby grabs something from literature or the movies and tries to force-fit it to his purposes. Claudius was such a reluctant emperor that Comey's usurpation of power is totally out of character.

      CMike, you really shouldn't berate people for being casual readers. We can have a nice conversation without using search engines to play gotcha.

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    11. 4:42 PM,

      Do you think 2:28 PM is a casual reader? No would be your answer if you were to be honest. Nine out of ten of you -if there are as many as ten of you- who use "Anonymous" as your identifier are here to troll.

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    12. CMike is a known anti-Anonymous elitist.

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    13. So, Dana Milbank speaks for all journalists?

      (And, Milbank didn't call Comey a God. He just felt that Comey's assessment of "no prosecutable offense" was accurate).

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    14. CMike, I don't understand your irritation at anonymous commenters. It's an option allowed by Somerby's blog. There are plenty of blogs on blogspot that do not allow anonymous comments. Somerby could change this if he wanted to. Besides, the way his comment system works, you can end up with two different people using the same moniker. Look at the two Gregs. That's Somerby's problem.

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    15. 8:48 PM,

      Of course you didn't click on the link before commenting, you're here to troll and without expending much effort.

      That prescient
      Howler post concluded with these lines:

      [QUOTE]
      Did Comey show good judgment last week? Were his basic factual claims even accurate? Were his claims perhaps misleading in some way?

      These questions need to be hashed out. We'll do so in a series of posts, but acolytes should make no mistake:

      At the Washington Post, the accusers of the Clintons and Gore have always been understood to be gods. Last Wednesday, Milbank revived an ancient cult. Yesterday, on the front page, Helderman followed suit.

      Some have disagreed with Comey the God. Voters should know what they've said.
      [END QUOTE]

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    16. CMike, you can quote Somerby all day if you want to. I have read every one of his posts since 1998. I don't happen to agree with Somerby on this. He is right to be skeptical of Comey, but wrong, in my view, to imply, as he often does, that all journalists or all liberals believe the same thing. There were plenty of liberals who despised Comey's initial press conference.

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    17. 8:59 PM writes about the use of "anonymous" by commenters:

      CMike, I don't understand your irritation at anonymous commenters.... Somerby could change this if he wanted to.

      You're right, he could change this. Then again, obviously, Somerby ignores his comment section. I don't. I read through the comments here and post comments myself. That's why I'm critical of the intended confusion that arises from the practice.

      (In the matter of the two Gregs, there is no confusion at this point. One of them is signed in, the other is not. And, of course, the not signed in Greg uses that moniker because he's here to troll.)

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    18. 9:09 writes,

      There were plenty of liberals who despised Comey's initial press conference.

      How about a list of six or seven print or television Main Stream Media journalists among the "plenty of liberals" who made it known they despised what Comey did back in July of 2016.

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    19. CMike, The confusion isn't "intended." People just choose not to use or create some other moniker. Yes, it's potentially confusing, but it isn't intentional. Most of the anonymous comments seem to be serious and trying to make a point, even if most seem to be critical of Somerby. The most troll-like comments come from named commenters, in my view. Not to mention that the spammers all have names. And there are plenty of comments from people who create a temporary, comical user name that they may only use once.

      Just so you know, I was a big fan of Somerby's years ago. Now, not so much. My name is Mike, by the way, but not CMike.

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    20. "CMike, you can quote Somerby all day if you want to."

      Oh, he will, and into the night, and until he bores even himself.

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  7. Fox News viewers are told daily that the Mueller probe is a witch hunt. MSNBC viewers are told the probe is not a witch hunt (it has already netted several indictments, is still ongoing, and is investigating whether grave damage was done to the integrity of our election, and should therefore be allowed to continue).

    The Fox approach seems like propaganda and disinformation. The MSNBC view seems factual and reasonable. It isn't just a case of mindless tribal difference.

    I'm not sure if Somerby is trying to cast doubt equally on all sources of information, but rational people (not all liberal, quite a few Republicans as well, including Somerby himself), can amass sufficient evidence from news reports to come to the reasonable conclusion that Trump and Co are lying and endangering our country.

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    1. Anon - The Mueller probe has netted exactly ZERO indictments related to alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

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    2. This would be an important statement if the investigation were finished, but it is not. There are sealed indictments and there are indictments for lying to the FBI.

      Why are you unable to wait for the end of the investigation? We will all know what happened then.

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    3. " ... ZERO indictments ...."

      I remember thinking that very thought after the 8th (or was it 9th) Benghazi investigation.

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    4. Actually ALL of the numerous indictments and guilty pleas are related to collusion between Trump and Russia.

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    5. "Yet, here, the Democrats have pinned the political future of the world on nailing him for the one thing of which he may in fact be innocent: Russia collusion. I mean, he’s guilty of just about everything else. But maybe there is no hard proof of Russia collusion. And my God, what a bitter, disgusting irony that would be if the whole edifice of opposition to Trump comes crashing down, if that speculative bet that that can be proven fails to pay off. It’s irresponsible to devote the majority of your political resources to that when so many other things are more substantively important, and also beyond debate."

      https://theintercept.com/2018/05/28/allan-nairn-trump-revolution/

      Leroy

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    6. "I mean, he’s guilty of just about everything else"

      Stabilization of Syria, breakthrough in Korea, no new wars, and the best economy in 20 years.

      Yeah, guilty as charged. No wonder "Russia collusion" mccarthyist bullshit is the best hope of the globalist/neocon scumbags...

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    7. I'm not sure Democrats are pinning their hopes on the Mueller probe. MSNBC is hyping it for sure. But MSNBC is not equal to Democrats. The "other" things that Trump is guilty of are not presently being investigated, because the House Republicans refuse to. If these include corrupt pay-for-play schemes with foreign actors, violations of the emolument clause, etc, then those things are being discussed on MSNBC, but not Fox.

      Also, the Mueller probe isn't just about Russia collusion; it also deals with "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation", which includes obstruction of justice, and the type of crime alleged in the Manafort indictment.

      And I would note that Pelosi (for example) doesn't talk about Mueller or impeachment at all. Nor do any of the Democrats running for office here in my home in the Deep South. Did Conor Lamb win in PA by talking about Trump/Russia/Mueller? No, he did not.

      And I still think the massive effort to derail or undermine Mueller by Trump and the right-wing is puzzling, if Trump is really innocent of collusion.

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    8. The corruption is being addressed by several ongoing lawsuits.

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    9. The Intercept - RT for phony progressives.

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    10. " ... the majority of your political resources ...."

      Rubbish.

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  8. They talked to the 'coffee boy' under false pretenses? “Mr. Page is not an advisor and has made no contribution to the campaign,” campaign spokesperson Jason Miller said in September 2016. “He’s never been part of our campaign. Period.” Gee, why are they complaining? And why is Bob complaining?

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  11. So Somerby is arguing that mounting evidence of corruption, obstruction of justice, bribery, treason (the last two specifically mentioned in the constitution as impeachable offenses) should be suppressed or downplayed or barely mentioned because discussing it might, in Somerby's view, cause Trump's approval rating to go up? Aside from the fact that the intense disinformation campaign being waged by the right-wing media and by complicit Republicans is likely the cause of the uptick, it seems odd, nay, unconscionable to allow such massive criminality to take root and metastasize. Before long, without resistance, it would be arguably too late.

    Only cowards are silent in the face of wrongdoing.

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    https://www.cnbc.com/video/2018/05/23/trump-russia-ties-in-plain-sight.html

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  16. "why didn't the crooked highest levels of the FBI or 'Justice' contact me to tell me of the phony Russia problem?" Trump tweeted.

    FBI warned Trump in 2016 Russians would try to infiltrate his campaign
    by Ken Dilanian, Julia Ainsley and Carol E. Lee / Dec.18.2017 / 5:08 PM ET / Updated Dec.19.2017 / 6:23 AM ET

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-warned-trump-2016-russians-would-try-infiltrate-his-campaign-n830596

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    1. The NBC piece you linked, despite its ominous title, merely says that (according to unnamed sources) both campaigns were given the standard briefing "designed to educate the candidates and their top aides about potential threats from foreign spies".

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    2. Cohen was indicted last week and bled guilty.

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    3. Yeah, inside your dead brain, dear.

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    4. "designed to educate the candidates and their top aides about potential threats from foreign spies".


      Dear Mr. Trump,

      This is just a friendly notice from the FBI that your son is planning to meet with Russian spies at your Tower. He says he loves it. Just for your edification, it is generally frowned upon by those of us in the FBI to commit treason.

      Yours truly,

      Director of the FBI
      James Comey

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    5. Yeah, for racist liberal scum every Russian is a 'spy'; what else is new.

      No, more like: don't use 'password' as your email account password.

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    6. Giuliani knows the Russian thing is real.
      He admitted he's trying to sway public opinion on the upcoming impeachment.
      So trump must have told hi (his lawyer) what's coming from Mueller.

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    7. Dear Mr. Trump,

      This is just a friendly notice from the FBI that your son-in-law is attempting to set up a back channel to the Kremlin using Russian diplomatic facilities and thus, "essentially concealing their interactions from US government scrutiny". Just for your edification, it is generally frowned upon by those of us in the FBI to commit treason.

      Yours truly,

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      James Comey

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    8. Dear dembot, diplomacy is what diplomatic facilities are for. Comprende?

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    9. "First, he is not seeking a back channel for a low-level staff exchange," Olson said. "He wants high-level direct-contact communication. This is extremely dangerous because it results in verbal (and therefore undocumented and unwitnessed) agreements, which are binding on governments. Free governments do not work this way. They can't. If they do, they are no longer free."

      Stuff that bullshit back up your ass, Boris.

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    10. Luckily for all of us, American president can pick up the phone and talk the Russian president any time, day or night, dembot.

      So, go suck the FBI's dick some more, together with the rest of liberal scum, and wake me up when they come, and supply you with another idiotic quote.

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    11. You don't have to be here, Mao.

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    12. "Yeah, for racist liberal scum every Russian is a 'spy'"...not 'every' Russian...just the ones Trump and Co met with.

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    13. I'm glad we agree on the "racist liberal scum" part, but no, not only all those they met. Also every Russian they (or any of their associates, supporters, or relatives) are "directly or indirectly tied to". Which really amounts to all Russians. You know, the 'six degrees of separation'...

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    14. Mao: So sorry to interrupt your regurgitation of the whine du jour from chickenshit coward Traitor Trump who is too much of a fucking chickenshit to ever answer questions from Mueller's team. Guess what, Boris. We notice and are not fooled by this fucking coward's continual distractions.

      Now you can return to sucking Putin's cock.

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    15. How to Understand Kushner’s ‘Back-Channel’

      Back-channels might be a regular part of government operations, but not this one.


      The issue is not so much that the White House wanted to establish a back-channel with a foreign government on a particular matter—the issue is with whom they wanted to establish the channel with (Russia), and, how they reportedly wanted the channel to operate (using Russian facilities and secure communications).

      But if that’s the case—if they were just going to talk about Syria military de-confliction, or the future of counter-ISIS activities—why would they want to deliberately hide that from their own government? It is the role of the U.S. intelligence community, after all, to provide both tactical and strategic information to our own military and intelligence personnel who may be in harm’s way, as well as to our allies in the region.


      "diplomacy is what diplomatic facilities are for" Sure, asshole, that's why he fucking lied about it.

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    16. "why would they want to deliberately hide that from their own government"

      Yeah, right: US presidential administration considers conducting international diplomacy 'hiding' from 'their own government'. And who, may I ask, governs them, the US presidential administration - the FBI? The CIA? Lol. Please clarify.

      Are you going to copy/paste every piece of bullshit excreted by every establishment clown here?

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    17. Hey jackass, at the moment in time when son-in-law Kushner was sneaking around corners with Russian spies, President Obama happened to be Commander in Chief, asshole.

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    18. Here's a good one:
      "Liberals and former President Barack Obama officials stormed to Twitter to expose how immigrant children in detention facilities sleep in cages and on the floors under President Donald Trump.

      One problem. These photos come from stories published in 2014 and 2016…when Obama was president."

      https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/05/media-former-obama-officials-use-pictures-from-2014-2016-to-attack-trump-on-immigration/

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    20. "President Obama happened to be Commander in Chief, asshole."

      Asshole he was indeed, and still is. But president he wasn't. Donald The Magnificent was President during the 'back-channel' 'scandal'.

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    21. Wrong again, vodka-breath.

      Ambassador Sergey Kislyak reported to his superiors in Moscow that Kushner, son-in-law and confidant to then-President-elect Trump, made the proposal during a meeting on Dec. 1 or 2 at Trump Tower, according to intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials. Kislyak said Kushner suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States for the communications.

      How was the chickenshit coward Traitor Trump president when the meeting occurred in Dec 2016? Explain that one. Try to do it without polishing Putin's knob, you lying sack of shit.

      By the way, what's your excuse for Donald the Chickenshit Coward not agreeing to be interviewed by the Mueller team?

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    22. Donald The Spectacular was elected President in November. You should know, because that's when you had your unfortunate exploded-head incident, my friend. And December comes after November, on this planet, dear.

      Not to mention that most or all of this might very well be total bulshit, invented or misrepresented by your FBI bosses. Most likely, in fact.

      Anything else I can help you with?

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    23. Let me help *you* out, Boris. This is America. We only have one President at a time. Donny the Chickenshit Coward Traitor was not President at that point in time. It has to do with our fucking Constitution. That's the last hint you get, you lying sack of shit.

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    24. mm - I'll kick ya the tailbone.

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    25. mm - The excuse for Trump not being interviewed by Mueller is common sense. I know you don't look at things the same way as I do, but here's my POV.

      1. There's no evidence of collusion with Russia.

      2. That's because the Trump campaign never colluded with Russia.

      3. The Mueller group are not doing an unbiased investigation. On the contrary, they are seeking to get anything at all on Trump.

      4. Testifying entails the risk that even a true statement may be contradicted and judged to be perjury. Recall that Scooter Libby was convicted of perjury for testifying that he couldn't remember something. It may well have been the case that he couldn't remember the answer to that question.

      5. The Obstruction of Justice idea is ridiculous for several reasons. But, that supposed list of questions released a couple of weeks ago delved deeply into Trump's state of mind at various points in time. An inaptly worded answer could be used to try to demonstrate that ordinary, legal actions by the President were based on bad thoughts and thus constituted crimes.

      mm - I have expressed my POV as honestly as I could. I know that you and many others here won't agree.

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    26. Whatever, dembot. After the elections, an advisor of the new upcoming administration considers the possibility of a perfectly legal diplomatic channel.

      Now, if this is the most shocking Trumpie crime against humanity your bosses could come up with, then they're in deep, deep shit indeed... End of story...

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    27. You're right, Comrade DinC. The reasons are he's a chickenshit coward lying sack of shit. I agree.

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    28. More good news for the economically anxious in MW diners and WV coal mines.

      Also, file this under, "drain the swamp" folder.


      Ivanka Trump won China trademarks days before her father's reversal on ZTE



      Watchdog group says the timing of the approvals ‘raises significant questions about corruption’

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/28/ivanka-trump-won-china-trademarks-donald-trump-zte-reversal

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    29. "As reported by Independent, between 2013 and 2015, she [HRC] gave 92 speeches to banks and other financial service organizations and earned [heh: "earned"] $21.6 million in just two years."

      Did your watch-dog-shit group say anything about that?

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    30. "As reported by Independent, between 2013 and 2015, she [HRC] gave 92 speeches to banks and other financial service organizations and earned [heh: "earned"] $21.6 million in just two years.""

      And Republicans and the corporate-media spent a year making believe they gave a shit. It got so ridiculous, they tried to make it part of Trump's win.
      Then Trump named those same corporate fraudsters to his cabinet, and Republicans and the corporate media (and Mao, and DavidinCal) yawned.

      I'm sorry, what was the point you aren't making again?

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    31. The point was about the unnamed dembot watch-dog-shit group. I asked if they ever opined that 92 speeches/$21.6 million in 2 years "raises significant questions about corruption".

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    32. Shorter Mao:

      Waawaawaawaa! WhataboutHillary? Waawaawaa! No fair, Hillary gets to do anything, no fair. Waawaawaawaawaa.

      Hey asshole, Mao, did you happen to notice she held no government office during that period of time, and actually gave most of that money away to the Foundation. We know that because she released her tax returns. Now go run along little trumpturd, the chickenshit coward Traitor needs your help.

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    33. So, the dembot's answer is 'no' + some squirming. Noted.

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    34. How could there be an issue of corruption when she held no office at the time?

      It's a stupid question you're asking, because you're evidently stupid. Watchdog groups don't go after private citizens, unless you're Judicial Watch and need to keep the donations flowing from stupid rubes like you, you ignorant creep.

      Group’s Tactic on Hillary Clinton: Sue Her Again and Again

      Judicial Watch was one of the Clintons’ original tormentors, a charter member of what Mrs. Clinton famously called a “vast right-wing conspiracy” to destroy her and her husband by seizing on any potential scandal.

      The organization filed its first lawsuit against the Clintons shortly after its formation in 1994, and it pretty much never stopped. It is currently the plaintiff in more than 20 suits involving Mrs. Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee.

      “People always used to say to me, ‘What are you going to do when the Clintons leave?’” Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch, said in an interview. “Well, the Clintons never really left.”


      I understand sitting in your dark basement in Latvia the news doesn't reach you very quickly, but my god, get help.

      And send money to Donny the Chickenshit's campaign, he has a lot of legal expenses, sucker.

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    35. "The point was about the unnamed dembot watch-dog-shit group. I asked if they ever opined that 92 speeches/$21.6 million in 2 years "raises significant questions about corruption".

      So, it's not about Trump and his supporters love for the elites, for a change.
      My bad. It always throws me when someone isn't pointing out how Trump and the rest of the GOP hate the common man, but love the plutocrats.

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    36. Mao you are such an idiot, Hillary then donated $17.6 million of those fees to charity. If you compare her behavior to Trump, Trump looks like a chump - and a con. Numerous Republicans command similar speaking fees; however, they keep the money. Cha ching Republicans! So helpful

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    37. "So, it's not about Trump and his supporters"

      No, it wasn't. Like I said: it was about the the banksters paying a rather large bribe, $21.6 million in just 2 years, to
      an elite politician, future presidential candidate (defeated, thank God).

      Are you catching up, dear zombie? Concentrate. Despite your severe brain rot, you might be able to figure it out, eventually.

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    38. DavidinCal,

      Nice failure.

      "1. There's no evidence of collusion with Russia."

      "If it's what you say it is, I love it, especially later in the summer." --- Donald Trump, Jr.

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  18. I can't see Trump doing anything but winning in 2020. Who could beat him? Plus people love seeing Democrats lose. It's weird. They need to get a better platform than never Trump or it is over. Again.

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    2. Maybe the Dems, despite being half crazy with the enormity of their own presence, can eek out some kind of win and temporarily stave their inevitable demise but I doubt it. Most likely this country will never have a Democrat president again. Their blighted rank and file will have time to rebuild themselves and try to become men again.

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      You need to pay attention.

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    4. " ...and try to become men again."

      Proof positive that TDH is go-to for incel wimps.

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    5. It's nothing to cry about. When things cease to be relevant and workable, they die. You'll go through some hard times and have to learn some hard lessons but you'll come out of it stronger. Someone will come along and show you the way. You can't do it by yourselves obviously. That's nothing to cry about either. You're only human. But get ready for so so many losses. They're coming, and they're coming right at you.

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    6. "That's nothing to cry about either. You're only human.", he said as he stared adoringly at his Eliot Rodger poster.

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    7. Who is that? That movie reviewer who died?Anyway, I do wish you luck, wisdom and courage as you navigate the rocky seas ahead. I am one of you.

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