THE CREDULOUS APE: Why did Manafort wear a suit?

MONDAY, AUGUST 6, 2018

Part 1—Rationalize this:
Back in the 1960s, leading zoologist Desmond Morris had a key idea.

He wrote a book, The Naked Ape, based upon this idea. The leading authority on his book sums it up like this:
The Naked Ape: A Zoologist's Study of the Human Animal is a 1967 book by zoologist and ethologist Desmond Morris that looks at humans as a species and compares them to other animals. The Human Zoo, a follow-up book by Morris that examined the behaviour of people in cities, was published in 1969.

The Naked Ape, which was serialized in the Daily Mirror newspaper and has been translated into 23 languages, depicts human behavior as largely evolved to meet the challenges of prehistoric life as a hunter. The book was so named because out of 193 species of monkeys and apes, only humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) are not covered in hair. Morris, the author, who had been the curator of mammals at London Zoo, said his book was intended to popularize and demystify science.

Morris said that Homo sapiens not only have the largest brains of all higher primates, but that sexual selection in human evolution has caused humans to have the highest ratio of penis size to body mass...
Forget that part about ratios! According to Morris, of all the species of monkeys and apes, only members of our own species "are not covered in hair."

The Naked Ape generated a lot of buzz. It even inspired a same's-the-same 1973 film starring Victoria Principal—a film which was "very loosely based on the book," according to the leading authority on the Tinseltown production.

That said, Morris' book is rarely discussed today. In this era, leading experts more commonly refer to our species as the gossipy or credulous ape.

Why have so many international experts adopted this weltanschauung—this framework, perspective, way of thinking, general understanding or possibly even this paradigm or heuristic? (Plural: "weltanschauungs.")

Why are international experts describing us as the credulous ape? According to two anonymous people who say they know what they're talking about, the framework arose from comments on "cable news" last Tuesday night concerning the Manafort trial. Even for cable, last Tuesday's statements were so odd that they have transformed international understanding of the nature of the human animal.

The first of these statements was made by Nicolle Wallace, guest host on the Maddow show that evening. Wallace's 4 PM program, Deadline: Kaffeeklatsch, is a rollicking album of current gossip about Donald J. Trump, the badly disordered yet captivating American head of state.

Last Tuesday night, Wallace was filling in Rachel Maddow, who had taken several days off to work on the hand gestures involved in her "performance of the Rachel figure." The Manafort trial had begun that day with rapid jury selection, followed by opening statements. As she spoke with Politico's Josh Gerstein, Wallace posed a puzzling question:
WALLACE (7/31/18): Can you—I read this and I wonder about this— If I read this correctly, he [Manafort] was wearing a suit today.

GERSTEIN: Right.

WALLACE: We've seen other photos where he's wearing a jumpsuit. The jurors will not be informed, or see any images of him wearing that jumpsuit. Why would that be?
Wallace asked why Manafort was wearing a suit in court instead of his all-green prison attire. An array of international experts have suggested that this may qualify as the dumbest question ever asked.

"Even on cable," one expert sadly said.

Gerstein offered a somewhat convoluted version of the blindingly obvious answer. Along the way, he even said that it might be "prejudicial" were the jurors to see the defendant "shackled," or even "in handcuffs."

Wallace then offered a jesting remark about the already famous "ostrich coat." Panelists enjoyed a good laugh.

Already, experts were shifting uneasily in their swivel chairs. But two hours later, it happened again!

Brian Williams spoke with Gerstein about the trial, but also with Cynthia Alksne. Turning to Alksne, he proceeded to ask the same ridiculous question, answering it as he did:
WILLIAMS (7/31/18): Cynthia, you're the lawyer here, so I got two more for you. Number one is another mechanical question. Tell the folks watching why it is that Paul Manafort—and we've established he likes him some high-end menswear—is able to wear a suit in court, even though we have seen his booking photo in the green jumpsuit that prisoners wear in that part of the state of Virginia.

Is it courtesy, and is it because coming in in a prison jumpsuit would be instantly visually prejudicial?

ALKSNE: Yes, it is. It's more fair for him to appear in front of the jury in a suit than it is an orange jumpsuit.

WILLIAMS: All right.

ALKSNE: And there's no reason to humiliate him in that way. There's enough happening in the courtroom as it is.
Williams answered his own question, then let Alksne say that he was right. In different circumstances, Alksne suggested, humiliation of the defendant might have been called for. This is why a cable channel brings legal experts in!

(Williams had already joked about the ostrich coat in an earlier exchange with Gerstein. This explains his entertaining aside about the way Manafort, unlike the clotheshorse Williams, "likes him some high-end menswear."

By now, jibes about the ostrich jacket were mandated by Hard Pundit Law. "Cable news" has long since established itself as a gossip/entertainent medium.

Even so, international obsevers were taken aback by the sheer dumbness of the question Wallace and Williams both asked:

Why was Manafort allowed to appear in a regular suit? Why wasn't he forced to appear in a bright orange prison jumpsuit?

Two major stars of "cable news" had actually asked this question! One of the stars had explicitly said that she was puzzled, perhaps even flummoxed, by this state of affairs.

The sheer absurdity of this question was noted by savants worldwide. "Surely, this is the gossiping, credulous, or even perhaps the braindead ape," successors to the late Desmond Morris were soon saying at sparely attended professional gatherings.

For today, let's state the obvious. Obviously, Wallace and Williams never thought that Manafort would appear before the jury in his orange or green jumpsuit.

No one thought he'd be presented in shackles or in handcuffs. No one thought he'd be frogmarched in, arms pulled back and head shoved very low.

(Abundant evidence made that unnecessary, Alksne seemed to suggest.)

It's hard to believe that anyone at The One True Channel actually thought that cable viewers, however gullible, distracted or dumb, would actually need this point explained. Still, the question was asked, on two separate programs!

Two cable stars asked the ridiculous question. Around the world, traditional weltanschauungs began to crack under the strain.

Morris said that we were naked. Aristotle is said to have called us "rational."

In the wake of last Tuesday's events, experts are aggressively throwing that earlier construction away. They're playing tape of Wallace and Williams, after which they're sadly saying:

Go ahead! Rationalize this!

Some of these experts have even asked an additional question: How credulous do we apes have to be to watch cable programs like these? Could it be that, in the end, we're just the credulous ape?

Tomorrow: Foer explains

34 comments:

  1. Credulous or not, I'm not going to judge the worth of a cable news show by one or two questions with obvious answers. If this were all that the hosts asked, Somerby might have a valid point, but the shows asked other things too. So how fair is it for Somerby to judge the shows (and our whole species) on the basis of a single obvious question?

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  2. Somerby doesn't like anonymous sources, even though they are a mainstay of journalism going way back, without which it would be impossible to go beyond the PR statements handed out by those covered. Today, he cutely pretends that journalists can just make shit up and attribute it to such sources. Somerby makes up some especially stupid stuff and says a couple sources told him so. But journalism doesn't exactly work that way.

    If Somerby had ever been trained as a journalist, he would know that there are rules about sources. Editors and publishers vet the information provided by a source (who is not anonymous TO THEM) and require corroboration from other sources. They withhold the name of the source from the readers but they know who told them what. Yes, we must take the word of the publisher that the source is reliable, but we do that anyway whenever a statement is attributed as well. We trust that the journalist got things right when they were told something.

    And then there are the ethics. Journalism is a profession. A profession is an occupation in which the customers are unable to evaluate the quality of services received and in which there are strong consequences to them for substandard work. Because of this, a profession polices itself and uses its expertise to weed out incompetent members. It also establishes ethics governing its own performance, rules governing who can be in their profession and how the work must be performed. Journalistic ethics govern the use of anonymous sources, the need for corroboration, what can and cannot be published (and what is off-the-record), the public's right to know, and so on.

    Somerby's ignorance about this should be embarrassing to him. Just as his ignorance about anthropology should be an embarrassment. But there may be people reading who are gullible enough to think this attack on the media has merit. They may think "fake news" occurs due to anonymous sources because newspapers can make shit up and attribute it to no one, with impunity. Just like Trump thinks California is just pouring water into the ocean instead of fighting fires with it because he misunderstood a report about rainwater capture. And Somerby has the nerve to call cable news reporters gullible!

    And don't ask why Somerby is so vested in describing the media as fake. Supporting Trump in his crusade against the public enemy is its own reward.

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    1. If you were an anonymous source, would you allow the journalist to disclose your identity to their editor and publisher? I sure as heck wouldn't.

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    2. Doesn't this depend on the terms negotiated between the journalist and the source? They agree on who they will be disclosed to and how they will be described.

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  3. Were there any bloodhounds and sheriffs with shotguns wearing texan hats in that courtroom? Just curious...

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  4. http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2018/08/trump-dog-whistles-to-glenn-greenwald.html

    Somerby hears that dog whistle loud and clear. Like Greenwald, who attacks liberals from the left, Somerby doesn't understand that we need the press to ask the hard questions and we put up with the stupid questions along the way.

    A free press is a bulwark against the increasing authoritarianism of our president. We have the pattern of press suppression in Nazi Germany to guide us. The German people knew only what the state press told them -- as William Shirer put it (Berlin Diary), any lie will do. The people were told that the Austrians were invaded because communists and socialists were rioting and looting in the streets (not true). They said German people were being attacked in Czechoslovakia, hence the need to annex it. And people believed what they read because they had no other sources of information.

    We can reach that point if Trump succeeds in his attacks on the press, if he makes reporting a matter of national security (a free press the enemy of the people) and takes it over. Somerby helps this along by complaining about stupid questions, especially in the context of the trial of one of Trump's minions.

    The question is why Somerby thinks an occasional silly question is worth a column, worth joining forces with Trump to attack journalism.

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    1. "We have the pattern of press suppression in Nazi Germany to guide us." But - as Greenwald points out - we have the Iraq war to guide us in understanding how our press didn't and doesn't ask the hard questions. They didn't ask Trump the hard questions as he steamrolled into office. I can't find a way to defend CNN et al at this point. What hard questions have they asked? I find the mainstream press to be really just entertainment vehicles owned by powerful corporations and bulwarks against nothing remotely noble. I find it weird people like yourself put up with them little alone defend them but I am happy that you have shared your thoughts here today and I wish you the best.

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    2. If the press today were not asking sufficient hard questions, why is Trump so angry at them? Why is getting rid of a free press the first item on every dictator's agenda?

      I agree they could do better and should have done better in the past, but without them what do we have as a check on power? If we do not defend them, what prevents a corrupt leader from doing as he pleases?

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    3. Hello? We don't have a check on power. They have not and they will not act as a check on power. They didn't check the power of the corrupt leader Bush as he did as he pleased and committed his horrible war crime with hundreds of thousands of dead.

      You seem to think they are beyond criticism? Someone that criticizes them is out of bounds somehow? Think of all the dead.

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    4. @"Prick":
      No one said the press is beyond criticism. Where do you see that in the comment?

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    5. The free press includes all of the outlets, not just MSNBC or the NY Times. There were articles attacking the war and exposing the lies and criticizing Bush along with the Judith Miller stuff in the NY Times. A free press includes all of the voices.

      Trump wants to eliminate some of them. He wants only Fox to the be press organ. Today he announced that he will give no press briefings and will not leave the White House after tweeting something stupid. That effectively eliminates access to info about our government, in keeping with the many ways he has been shutting off access to info about government activities. Kicking out CNN is another example. He is trying to build a climate of acceptance for these acts by portraying the press as an enemy of the people, so that when he issues his list of permitted media, the objections can be drowned out by national security concerns.

      We can work against that or we can hasten that day. Somerby has chosen the latter approach. I don't understand why, when he professes to be a liberal. Greenwald I understand -- he has no allegiance to the US and doesn't care what happens to us here. He can afford to take a purist, black-and-white view of politics because he doesn't live here. He won't suffer any consequences when Bernie and bros blow up another election and give Trump the chance to turn is into a police state. He'll just nod sagely and say "I told you so, you should have done things my way." And Somerby will go on finding nitpicks in the official press releases that pass for news in the new Trumpian order.

      No thank you.

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    6. It hard to know what you mean by "work against that", I guess you mean "we" need to work against Trump's construction of a climate of acceptance for eliminating a free press? Is that what you mean? Can you clarify that further? What does that entail - working against whatever you suggest? Does it entail defending CNN and the New York Times and what is generally known as the mainstream media from attacks by Trump of "fake news" and starting wars? Because that is a very difficult position to defend.

      As Greenwald mentioned and what we all know is that these mainstream outlets served not as a bulwark against authoritarianism but rather a bulwark against dissent and reason and reasonable information that could have prevented the Iraq war. Trump works in broad strokes saying "fake news" and letting his followers project their own feelings and biases on that term. If Trump paints CNN and NYT as enemies of the people guilty of starting wars, the stone cold truth is he's right! If he means these outlets printed pro war propaganda and basically acted like bullocks instead of bulwarks that assisted the authoritarian regime of the time in illegally killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people, his supporters can easily find him to be right. Many probably had family that died there and of course many hear him make that claim as they sit with missing limbs from that very escapade and how to them can one of us defend CNN and the New York Times of broad accusations of fake news with regard to Iraq? Well, I know you can but no one can in a way that will find purchase with those maimed ex soldiers and mothers of dead sons and daughters. They get it. CNN and the New York Times failed us there.

      So it's difficult. Somerby has been criticizing the NYT and CNN etc for decades as being dumbed down and presenting a warped upper end discourse that deals in narratives over facts and frequently overstates and misstates basic facts. And here we are in a situation where Trump comes in calls these outlets "fake news" and, sadly, they are both right. Trump's claim doesn't contain in specific information but there has been more than enough laziness and narratives and misstating and overstating not to mention a kind of metropolitan superiority that has been meticulously documented here and all them claims are real enough both for Trump's supporters to completely buy into and for liberals to have a really hard time defending. Again, I know you can and may try to defend it (or not) - but you can't do it effectively and winningly.

      Really, Somerby has been right all along. He has been sounding the warnings that this laziness and adherence to narrative is harmful to progressive interests and no one listened and now we all have to pay. CNN, NYT, network and cable news were all elevated to the highest positions of power. They squandered that power and didn't take it seriously. Somerby is right that they gamboled. And by doing so, they left themselves exposed. And sure enough a billionaire who didn't give a fuck came along and called them on it. He took down the shibboleths of his party and now he is taking down the shibboleths of mainstream media and there's nothing we can do about it. One weird guy tried to warn us but no one heard him and the few that did didn't listen. Now we all have to reap the whirlwind.

      Sometimes you just have to bite your upper lip and put sunglasses on.

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    7. MSNBC and NY Times are not the only media. We need to defend the rights of all press to do their jobs (well or poorly) because the solution to the kind of propaganda pieces run by the NY Times in the runup to Iraq is not to limit or exclude or suppress press coverage. It is to criticize the press for its content -- but not limit its right to do its job.

      Trump wishes to suppress access to government activity by the press. He calls some press legitimate and others not, playing favorites. He instigates violence against members of the press at rallies and in tweets. He calls the disfavored members of the press "enemies of the people" and he labels stories he dislikes "fake news" and he tells citizens not to listen to anything in the press because it isn't real. He does this from his position of authority as president. He puts false information on government websites and limits government employees from participation in information-sharing, such as by issuing reports and attending conferences. He conducts secret meetings and allows the foreign press (Pravda) to attend, but not American press. He has press members thrown out of briefings and public appearances.

      That is attacking the institution of the press, not individual articles containing questionable ideas or information. We need to stop that kind of action -- attack of the press itself.

      Some reporters write crap. Some don't. We need all of our press to be active and involved and working hard. No matter whether you agree with what they write, no matter whether their reporting turns out to be false in the light of better knowledge. Even if some reporters, such as Judith Miller, turn out to be bad journalists working for those seeking war. Ultimately, the Senate voted to authorize the attack on Iraq. I would blame them, not the NY Times, for what happened. And all those people who voted for George Bush because they didn't like Al Gore. I blame them even more, because they caused the Katrina fiasco and 9/11 and so much more.

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    8. @"Prick"
      Certain appropriate criticisms can be made against the Times, CNN, etc. But are these the sum total of media, or even what you call "mainstream media?" Your (and Somerby's) analysis leaves out large swaths of the media landscape, including respectable conservative publications such as the Wall Street Journal or the National Review, or influential cable outlets like Fox, which consistently outrates the other cable channels. Not to mention more fringe but nonetheless influential outlets like Limbaugh or Drudge, Breitbart, etc.

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    9. Umnn ... no they are not the sum total of all media. I can't speak for Somerby but my analysis leaves out large swaths of the media landscape, including respectable conservative publications for a pretty simple and clear reason, one that even seems obvious. At the present time Trump is accurately criticizing and de-legitimizing these mainstream news outlets like the New York Times and the Washington Post and CNN and the network nightly newscasts and cable news entertainment shows outside of Fox.

      That set of media needs to be criticized for leaving themselves open to legitimate criticism by Trump and others because this piss poor and lazy performance has opened up the space for Trump's success and and the success of conservative publications such as the Wall Street Journal or the National Review, or influential cable outlets like Fox, which consistently outrates the other cable channels and fringe but nonetheless influential outlets like Limbaugh or Drudge, Breitbart, etc.all of whom can accurately criticize the mainstream media which has, without question, ultimately hurt progressives interests and the legitimacy of the press in general.

      I focus on them and maybe Somerby too for the simple reason they have not stood as a bulwark against authoritarianism and have actually let it flourish.

      It's all over now though and all that's left is reaping the whirlwind.


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  5. Did Williams discuss something other than Manafort's attire? If so, was the overall discussion informative, accurate, slipshod, etc? Perhaps the overall discussion contained points more worthy of Somerby's attention than this brief exchange about a jump suit?

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  6. I thought the question was an insult to the intelligence of the viewers, but maybe I'm wrong about that. Maybe some viewers actually believed he would appear before the jury in prison clothes. For the record, I attended the first-degree murder trials of four Louisiana State Penitentiary inmates accused of killing an officer. They wore street clothes without a hint of shackles, but if you looked closely you could tell that each wore a "stun belt" under their clothes. An officer in the back of the court room had a remote control device that he could have used to incapacitate the defendant if he tried to flee.

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  7. The plural of Weltanschauung is Weltanschauungen.

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    I suggest you read this, a whole lot of people are still suffering from all manner of issues of life. What is that particular thing that bothers you? Sometimes, the problem is not the problem but the problem is the inability to identify those who have the solution. I am Jessica Jackson from Edinburgh United Kingdom and I like to introduce you to Dr Purity a man who is come to rescue humanity from all issues of life. Ever since the day I had an encounter with him, that was the day my problem got terminated. When wisdom is blinking, it becomes a word for the wise. I would encourage you to relate whatsoever problem you are facing with Dr Purity and be rest assured that with God all things would work together for your good. You can contact Dr Purity via email: puritylovespell@gmail.com I congratulate you as you do so, indeed you are the next testifier.you can also call him or add him on Whats-app: +2348070980389.

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  14. I am here again to give my testimony about a doctor who helped me in my life. I was infected with HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS in 2014, i went to many hospitals for cure but there was no solution, so I was thinking how can I get a solution out so that my body can be okay. One day I was in the river side thinking where I can go to get solution. so a lady walked to me telling me why am I so sad and i open up all to her telling her my problem, she told me that she can help me out, she introduce me to a doctor call DR OZALA who uses herbal medication to cure HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS and gave me his email, so i mail him. He told me all the things I need to do and also give me instructions to take, which I followed properly. Before I knew what is happening after 1 weeks the HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS that was in my body got vanished . so if you are also heart broken and also need a help, you can also email him at: drozalaherbalcure@gmail.com or whatsapp: +2349057849173

    here is his website: https://drozalaherbalcures.wordpress.com

    I,m nora and you can get in touch with me via: norachichicole@gmail.com
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  15. TESTIMONY OF A GREAT SPELL CASTER
    My name is Anna Philip. This is a testimony of a great spell caster 'DR IMOSE' who helped me in restoring my love life back. The day my husband left me, things appeared bleak, and the atmosphere was heavy with uncertainties. Everything seemed pale and so I decided to look for help in spell casters who have the capability to bring my ex husband back to me. As envisaged, I went on the internet and as you too have seen in your search for a reliable spell caster, I saw a lot of testimonies being done by spell casters in the recovery of ex husbands and loved ones. Driven by belief in DR IMOSE, I contacted him and after explaining things to him, he accepted to face the challenges on ground. He did brilliantly well. My ex husband is back to me with more care and affection. I will therefore like to take this opportunity to pay tribute to him for his selfless service to my situation. Commendable, he showed great courage at taking on the daunting task of finding solutions to practically any given problem. Contact his Email: imosesolutiontemple@gmail.com. call or Whatsapp him on +1-619-830-4690

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  16. I was searching for advise on what to do to get back my EX Husband, My story is about a woman who used to work with my husband in the same office, they were having secrete affair and i caught them, for that reason my we had to split, but i still love him but it seems he was deeply in lover with the other lady and he left me useless, after few weeks of searching for help, I came across Dr.Alli who can help me, i contacted Dr.Alli for help due to the fact that i needed my EX lover desperately because he is my everything and my life. To God be the glory, my EX husband came back to me within 12 hours and he swore never to cheat on me again and promised to love me forever, Viewers reading my article that also need his help should contact him with his email : ( allispellhelp1@gmail.com ) call or Whatsapp +2348100772528 he will solve your relationship problem.....

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  17. Hello everyone I want to share a testimony on how i was cured of HERPES Simplex Virus by Dr Covenant.i went to hospital but they gave me list of drugs like Famvir, Zovirax, and
    Valtrex which are expensive to treat the symptoms and never cured me. I was browsing the Internet searching for remedy on HERPES, i saw comment of people talking about Dr Covenant cured them.I collected his email address and messaged him to give it a try, he said i would be fine withing a week, to my greatest suprise, after him working for me, my HERPES result came out negative. He is specialize in treating different kinds of diseases such as
    Cancer
    Diabetes
    Hiv/Aids
    Brain Tumor
    Fertility
    Leucoderma Vitiligo
    And many more

    you contact him on Email at(Covenantsolutiontemple@gmail.com) or WHATSAPP at +2349057353987

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  18. My name is Leslie Jovanni and i want to testify of the good work done by a faithful man called DR ZACK BALO a spell caster in my life i never thought there is such thing as spiritual intercession. my problem started since one year ago when the father of my two kids started putting up some strange behavior, i never knew he was having an affair outside our matrimonial home. it dawn on me on that faithful day 7th of June last year at about 4:23pm when he came to the house to pick his things, that was when i knew that situation has gotten out of hand and he then told me he want to quit the marriage which i have built for over 5 years, i was confused and dumbfounded i called on family's and friends but to no avail. six months after i started having problem with my kids welfare, rent-age and all of it, i really went through hell. until a day i was browsing on the internet and i happen to meet DR ZACK BALO website: wiseindividualspell.webnode.com/, i never believed on this but i needed my husband back so i gave the spell caster my problem at first i never trusted him so i was just doing it but you know a problem shared is half solved after 3 days my husband called me telling me that he his coming back home and that was all. now we are living happily as husband and wife, i still can believe it just too real to be real it highly unbelievable on this great joy for those of you that are going through heart broke or any kind of problem i must tell you this great man has the power to solve any problem hear is the great man email address: wiseindividualspell@gmail.com or call him on his phone number +13203967742.

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  19. I'm 61 years old, I contracted hpv in 2011' I has be taking lot treatment for it and embarrassed some months ago the wart stated coming out seriously, I used lot recommendation because there was lot warts around my anus and was so . but today I'm totally happy I got the virus eliminated by using natural treatment from Dr Onokun herbal center after his treatment I got cured. all the warts went away' seriously believed Dr Onokun he have the cure for human papillomavirus because he has eliminated hpv been in my body since 2011, Dr Onokun make it possible for me. Here is Dr Onokun email:  dronokunherbalcure@gmail.com 

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  20. Thank you Thank You Very much Doctor Otonokpo for making my ex boyfriend come back to me. I am Cordelia Sandra from Brazil and i am putting this testimony here too because i want to share my testimony of how i was helped by Doctor Otonokpo within 48 hours of contacting him. Yes, it was last week my ex boyfriend returned to me after i contacted Doctor Otonokpo. My boyfriend was always going back to meet his ex girlfriend because he never really left her. Her name was Sophie. I didn't know how it happened one day after breakfast that i saw him looking at his ex girlfriend's picture on Facebook and I flared at him that he doesn't care about him and he was with me and still thinking about his ex although we have been dating for 6 months. He stormed at me and left the house and never returned. I was heartbroken and wanted him to come back. I was in a nightclub with friend one evening that I saw him with Sophie there, I was humiliated that night and I regretted going there only to see him there. I went online after some days and found Doctor Otonokpo and read about him and I contacted him to help me get him back. I must say that within 48 hours, my boyfriend came back to me and pleaded for leaving me. Is this how spell works so fast? Please, if you want help, contact Doctor Otonokpo too to help you at otonokpotemple@gmail.com
    Call/WhatsApp +2348114129781

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  21. Thank you Thank You Very much Doctor Otonokpo for making my ex boyfriend come back to me. I am Cordelia Sandra from Brazil and i am putting this testimony here too because i want to share my testimony of how i was helped by Doctor Otonokpo within 48 hours of contacting him. Yes, it was last week my ex boyfriend returned to me after i contacted Doctor Otonokpo. My boyfriend was always going back to meet his ex girlfriend because he never really left her. Her name was Sophie. I didn't know how it happened one day after breakfast that i saw him looking at his ex girlfriend's picture on Facebook and I flared at him that he doesn't care about him and he was with me and still thinking about his ex although we have been dating for 6 months. He stormed at me and left the house and never returned. I was heartbroken and wanted him to come back. I was in a nightclub with friend one evening that I saw him with Sophie there, I was humiliated that night and I regretted going there only to see him there. I went online after some days and found Doctor Otonokpo and read about him and I contacted him to help me get him back. I must say that within 48 hours, my boyfriend came back to me and pleaded for leaving me. Is this how spell works so fast? Please, if you want help, contact Doctor Otonokpo too to help you at otonokpotemple@gmail.com
    Call/WhatsApp +2348114129781

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