His latest ruminations: All by itself, Bill Bryan's deathless presentation was tedious enough.
Bryan had explained that disinfectant can shorten the lifespan of the virus which causes Covid-19. He also described the way sunlight, heat and humidity effect the virus when it's on various surfaces.
When Bryan finished, President Trump decided to share his own deep thoughts.
He started by pretending, as he sometimes does, that he's a true intellectual, with deep thoughts and bright ideas. This was his full rumination
TRUMP (4/23/20): Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting.Because he's "totally into that world," this nephew to a super-genius uncle wanted to share his own scientific musings. He mused about the possibility of bringing ultraviolet light inside the body—"whether through the skin or in some other way."
So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous—whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light—and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.
BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.
TRUMP: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks [the virus] out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds—it sounds interesting to me.
So we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s—that’s pretty powerful.
He asked if Bryan was going to test such ideas. Presumably, Bryan felt forced to say that "the right folks" almost certainly would.
After that, the disinfectant! Since disinfectant can kill the virus on a hard surface, why couldn't it do the same thing inside the human body?
"It gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs," the scientifically literate commander in chief lucidly said. "So it would be interesting to check that."
So it went at the start of yesterday's oddball musings. A few minutes later, Jonathan Karl decided to bring the eternal note of sanity in:
KARL: The president mentioned the idea of a cleaner, bleach and isopropyl alcohol emerging. There’s no scenario where that could be injected into a person, is there?Already, Trump had rethought his approach. The treatment wouldn't be done through injections, he now said, even as Bryan was (presumably) forced to pretend that somebody else might be exploring such matters.
BRYAN: No, I’m here to talk about the findings that we had in the study. We don’t do that within that lab, at our labs.
TRUMP: It wouldn’t be through injections. We're talking about almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object.
Later, Trump joined a reporter in speculating that it might make sense to fight the coronavirus by spending a lot of time outside when it's hot. That led to the later disaster in which Dr. Birx was put on the spot.
As often happens at these sessions, it started with a wiseguy question from the Washington Post's Philip Rucker. Just like that, the embattled commander took charge:
RUCKER: Mr. President, after the presentation we just saw about the heat and the humidity, is it dangerous for you to make people think they would be safe by going outside in the heat, considering that so many people are dying in Florida, considering that this virus has had an outbreak in Singapore, places that are hot and humid?Trump was forced to cut Birx off, but this wasn't new to him. He'd already heard a rumor!
TRUMP: Here we go. Here we go. The new headline is “Trump asks people to go outside. That’s dangerous.” Here we go. Same old group.
You ready? I hope people enjoy the sun, and if it has an impact, that’s great. I’m just hearing this, not really for the first time. I mean, there’s been a rumor, a very nice rumor, that you go outside in the sun, or you have heat, and it does have an effect on other viruses.
But now we get it from one of the great laboratories of the world, I have to say. Covers a lot more territory than just this.
[Addressing Bryan] This is probably an easy thing, relatively speaking, for you. I would like you to speak to the medical doctors to see if there’s any way that you can apply light and heat to cure. You know? If you could. And maybe you can, maybe you can’t. Again, I say maybe you can, maybe you can’t. I’m not a doctor. But I’m a person that has a good you know what.
Deborah, have you ever heard of that? The heat and the light relative to certain viruses, yes, but relative to this virus?
BIRX: That is a treatment. I mean, certainly fever, is a good thing. When you have a fever, it helps your body respond. But not as—I’ve not seen heat or light as a—
TRUMP: I think it’s a great thing to look at. Okay?
At that point, and to his credit, Rucker refused to quit.
As an obvious East Coast elitist, Rucker knew he had to pretend to be concerned by the president's talk about hearing a rumor. For his trouble, he was dispatched in the manner shown:
RUCKER (continuing directly): But respectfully, sir, you’re the president. And people tuning into these briefings, they want to get information and guidance and want to know what to do. They’re not looking for a rumor.For ourselves, we don't have the slightest idea whether sunbathing could ever defeat the virus.
TRUMP: Hey—hey, Phil. I’m the president, and you’re Fake News. And you know what I’ll say to you? I’ll say it very nicely.
I know you well. I know you well. Because I know the guy. I see what he writes. He’s a total faker.
So, are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready? It’s just a suggestion from a brilliant lab by a very, very smart, perhaps brilliant, man. He’s talking about sun. He’s talking about heat. And you see the numbers.
So that’s it; that’s all I have. I’m just here to present talent. I’m here to present ideas, because we want ideas to get rid of this thing. And if heat is good and if sunlight is good, that’s a great thing as far as I’m concerned.
Gargling with Lysol and light-bulb colonics are also foreign to us. But we said we'd show you what was said, and we've now kept our word.
This sort of thing is being aired in prime time every night. It's long past the time when network executives need to say, in public statements, what they actually think about all this.
Also this, very strongly:
Is something wrong with President Trump? We have recommended pity for the damaged souls of the earth. But it's long past time for upper-end scribes and the people who hire them to start asking this question out loud.
Is something wrong with President Trump? There are respectful ways to pursue that question. But will our upper-end "news" executives ever be willing to ask?
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ReplyDeleteShould be *affect* the virus. Effect means something different.
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ReplyDeleteThis is a nasty thing to say about Bump. I think Somerby has been exhibiting an undeniable bias against East Coast educated people, calling them "elitist" and mocking their accomplishments. In this case, the man is just doing his job.
Who mocks East Coast elites? Is it Democrats or is it conservatives? Hint: it isn't Democrats.
Why is Somerby once again carrying water for conservatives by mocking the press as East Coast elites?
Hm. Isn't Somerby mocking the standard right wing trope here? I detect an attempt at sarcasm. He may not have pulled it off to your satisfaction (nor to mine), but I don't see it as evidence that Somerby is a right winger. The folks who weigh in here are a tough room in the parlance of stand up comedy. I guess his excuse is that he's writing as fast as he can, so misfires are to be expected. I sure see a lot of typos. Oh well.
Delete@4:49
DeleteWas he also being sarcastic and just skewering the standard right-wing trope when he said, for years, that liberals were “dumb, lazy and exuded a moral squalor?” Or that the mean virtue-signaling liberals caused the election of Trump? How far are you willing to go with this defense: when it doesn’t look good for Somerby, hey, he’s just being sarcastic! Is his blog some sort of comedy routine? Gee, I thought it was an attempt at serious media criticism.
Hey, 4:49, go review Somerby’s blog over the last umpteen years. He has consistently and harshly derided elite, East Coast journalists, making a point of mentioning that they attended Harvard or what have you. It is one of the most consistent themes of this blog. So, no, it cannot be viewed as sarcasm.
Delete@5:01
DeleteI can't deny that he seeks to "call out" liberals on their shortcomings, as he sees them. I get the sense that he's expressing frustration with what he imagines to be their self-righteousness? I can't say I agree with him across the board on that, certainly not when I encounter conservatives who strike me as "dumb, lazy and [who exude] a moral squalor." But I tend to cut him some slack in order to get at the things he says that strike me as valid. Right now I see his take-down of the Trump briefings as very valuable.
It was sarcasm dumbass.
Delete5:29
DeleteYour original argument was that maybe Somerby was just pretending to attack Bump. That doesn’t fit with Somerby’s theme of consistently attacking elite East Coast journalists. ”Cutting him slack” shouldn’t involve ignoring the main point and thrust of his blog.
@5:09
DeleteRegarding the "east coast elite," I think you might be missing an important aspect of Somerby's media critique. He almost always specifies *when* a young journalist has graduated from college. He does this in order to demonstrate the frequency with which inexperienced young people are hired by major media outlets as part of a "business model" which values their low starter salaries above their glittering degrees, although their academic credentials may help them get a foot in the door. He often suggests that these young and inexperienced journalists are given only minimal editorial guidance, probably in the interest of reducing payroll on that front as well, all of which leads to shoddy journalism. I think he says this in sorrow more than in anger? He reserves his anger -- and this is where I see him assaulting the "east coast elite" -- for upper echelon managing editors of the New York Times, who he imagines heading for the Hamptons at the drop of a hat. I think he risks tipping over into caricature when he goes there, frankly. But I think he's on target when he talks about the money-saving hires and lack of editorial guidance and the journalism that results.
@5:39
DeleteIf Somerby were "pretending" to attack Bump, I don't think he pulled it off very well. I wouldn't say I was making an argument that he was pretending, but rather making an observation of how the comment struck me. I sensed sarcasm, but others such as yourself see it as part of an unpleasant pattern. Also, the remark about Bump the elitist didn't strike me as the "main point and thrust" of his entry (or entries), so I let it go and read on to get his analysis of Trump's "performance," which I see as the main point, and the difficulty journalists have doing their jobs when Trump bulls his way through a briefing. Hence, Somerby's suggestion that media outlets do more to give a context for these briefings, in other words to help journalists out, to call Trump to account for his misstatements (or lies if you prefer). Again, this may be at odds with the traditions of journalism and therefore unrealistic. But it seems to me that Somerby is on target when he shows how Trump dodges the questions, attacks the messengers, and if Somerby were truly a Trump apologist, as some here seem to think, I don't believe he would be laying bare for all to see the absurdity and inappropriateness of these briefings, with trump being portrayed as by far the most egregious actor in the farce.
Of course he was on target with Trump's dodges. He quoted Trump dodging. But you are ignoring the way Somerby chastises the journalists, not Trump, for asking persistent questions that are evaded by a man who is the president of the United States. Somerby saves his vitriol for the reporters, not for Trump.
Delete"He reserves his anger -- and this is where I see him assaulting the "east coast elite" -- for upper echelon managing editors of the New York Times, who he imagines heading for the Hamptons at the drop of a hat. "
DeleteNot quite. He called both Alcindor and Jiang incompetent and I would bet neither of them lives in the Hamptons. You are taking Somerby at face value and not looking at what he actually does.
"Is something wrong with President Trump? There are respectful ways to pursue that question."
ReplyDeleteIs this perhaps one of those respectful ways?
"But respectfully, sir, you’re the president. And people tuning into these briefings, they want to get information and guidance and want to know what to do. They’re not looking for a rumor. And you gave them some incredibly stupid speculation. Are you sure you're not mentally ill?"
"Is something wrong with President Trump?"
ReplyDeleteWhy, we all know what it is, dear Bob: he's not one your scripted robotic zombie politicians. Not one of the figureheads of your liberal-globalist establishment.
That's all, dear Bob.
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DeleteTrump's late response to the coronavirus pandemic is going to cost us trillions and trillions of dollars. I'm anxious for him to explain to a grand jury why he took so few actions about it in February while publicly minimizing the epidemic he had been explicitly warned about by his own people. He has a lot of explaining to do and is most likely in a lot of trouble including facing charges of homicide.
DeleteI say this as a Republican who hates Democrats.
Disagreement with a political party doesn't mean you have to "hate" them.
DeleteNo, I hate them. It's more than disagreement. They rob from ordinary citizens. They are immoral.
DeleteYou are confused. It is the Republicans who take from the poor and give to the rich.
DeleteBut you are obviously another troll. All the reason to hate Democrats, this isn't one of them.
What do you do with someone who watches FEMA literally steal medical equipment from states trying to treat their ordinary citizens, but who concludes that it’s Democrats that are thieves?
DeleteAnonymous @12:45P is part of the “taxation is theft” crowd, those who have rejected the democratic social compact of this country and joined the Republican Party to walk amongst us as human.
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DeleteI help fill deadrat’s demand for a class of post-natal humanoid beings.
You’d do well to heed 10:36am.
“As an obvious East Coast elitist, Bump knew he had to pretend to be concerned by the president's talk about hearing a rumor.”
ReplyDeleteI...what? It isn’t enough that Bump asked a good question and attempted to hold Trump accountable by doggedly following up; Somerby has to accuse Bump somehow, reading his mind and questioning his motives. What kind of media criticism is this?
(By the way, According to his bio, he attended Ohio State University. Not exactly an East Coast bastion...)
Seems to me that drinking hydrochloric acid would kill the corona virus. I'm no doctor I just have a real smart brain.
ReplyDeletePeople often think I'm a blabbering fool but that's just because my brain is so great. IQ of 463, highest ever.
“Gargling with Lysol and light-bulb colonics are also foreign to us.”
ReplyDeleteSo, when Trump recommends “gargling with Lysol” (he actually said “inject disinfectants”), does that really show he’s mentally ill?
One would assume that they show that he is, because gargling with Lysol can kill you.
On the other hand, saying “it’s foreign to us” just indicates Somerby’s lack of familiarity with the idea.
So, to restate: The idea of gargling with a poison is foreign to Somerby.
Looks like "light bulb colonics" are a thing currently researched for coronavirus
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The Healight technology employs proprietary methods of administering intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light via a novel endotracheal medical device. Pre-clinical findings indicate the technology’s significant impact on eradicating a wide range of viruses and bacteria, inclusive of coronavirus. The data have been the basis of discussions with the FDA for a near-term path to enable human use for the potential treatment of coronavirus in intubated patients in the intensive care unit (ICU).
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Cutting through the BS, it hasn't been approved by the FDA and it hasn't been tested specifically with the novel corona virus.
Delete“We are honored to be partnering with Cedars-Sinai as we believe the Healight therapeutic platform has the potential to help many patients during this coronavirus pandemic and beyond,” said Josh Disbrow, Chairman and CEO of Aytu BioScience.
DeletePartnering to do what? Hopefully test this "therapeutic platform" (whatever that means).
DeleteOne trouble with the media is that they focus more on trivialities and less on things that actually affect the course of this awful disease. Today's big story IMHO should be that the number of tests shot up to well over 300,000. It had been hovering around half that figure for several weeks. This rise is due to a lot of things done by Dr. Birks, by Ms. Verna, by Pence and Trump and by a lot of unnamed people.
ReplyDeleteIf Trump sat in a room watching a bath tub overflow in front of his eyes. David would be cool with that.
DeleteIf Trump started bailing out the room with a thimble David would be cool with that. If after 8 weeks of ineffective bailing as the bathroom continues to flood, Trumpy finally switches his thimble to a pail David would declare him a genius problem solver.
If David walked into a bathroom and found Trump drowning his grandkids David would lend a hand.
David is a pathetic example of a humyn being but a great example of a right-wing fascist.
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You're asking 'Is something wrong with President Trump?', dear Bob.
Well, why don't you remove the beam out of your own eye, and ask: what's wrong with me and my zombie cult?
Let's hope Trump tries to repeat this tale to the grand jury. It might get him a life without parole sentence, instead of life sentence for his criminal negligence.
DeleteThey always show themselves. Abusing dissenters and hoping (they'd be praying too if they were not godless) that research results in a high death rate showing a treatment doesn't work.
DeleteThis is who they are.
Trump's cure produces heart problems in people who are vulnerable, in addition to not helping at all with the virus. Someone can be made worse off (and even die) compared to if they received no treatment. If Trump's core were only ineffective, the main cost would be the money spent on a worthless produce, and the opportunity cost of not seeking real medical help. But, the medical trials showed that people died from the supposed cure, not from the virus, because it causes heart incidents (e.g. heart attacks and heart failure). The drug actively harms people in addition to the virus itself.
DeleteNot to mention causing shortages for people, like lupus sufferers, who need the drug for therapeutic purposes.
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