Technical problems afflict our computers...

SATURDAY, MAY 9, 2020

...but also our national discourse:
Technical problems have been afflicting our computers. If we're not up and running on Monday, the answer will likely lie there.

"Technical problems" are also afflicting our failing national discourse. Consider the ongoing effort to decide whether Tara Reade's accusation is true.

Nothing's quite so depressing as running back through the accusations which have dotted our electoral landscape since early 1992. It's demoralizing to review the way the mainstream press evaluated the claims of Gennifer Flowers and Kathleen Willey. Then too, we have the widely believed but false accusations in the Duke lacrosse case and the UVa gang rape accusation.

You can add Julie Swetnick's claim to that group. Do we liberals still believe that her claims were true? And why did that question disappear?

In the broader sense, have we liberals ever tried to come to terms with the way we fell in line behind the tribal pied piper, Michael Avenatti? Have we ever tried to explain why we regarded his client, Stormy Daniels, as a "feminist hero," rather than as a misguided person who hoped to score some major cash in the midst of a White House election?

It's depressing to recall the way the mainstream press failed to discuss the credibility problems displayed by Flowers and Willey. A similar impulse plays out today in the case of Reade, who very much may, or perhaps may not, be telling the truth about Biden.

Involved in this is the hard-wired human attraction to so-called "motivated reasoning," in which we tend to believe the claims which align simplistically with our preconceived view of the world. In which we embellish the evidence which supports the claim we want to believe, while disappearing sources of doubt.

One "progressive" after another has embellished the evidence which seems to support Reade's claims. This doesn't just happen Over There on the crackpot right. Our self-impressed but failing blue team has long been sunk in this practice.

Tied up in this is The Silence of The Logicians. In the current matter, we're dealing with an aspect of "epistemology," the study of what sorts of things we can reliably claim to know.

For thirty years, our discourse has turned on whether we could or couldn't believe a series of sexual accusations, some of which were surely true, some of which were not. We've been struggling with this daring back to Gennifer Flowers, but Have you ever seen a philosophy professor descend from his or her aerie to lead us through the types of steps we must make in such situations?

Citizens, please! We've been almost wholly abandoned by our academic elites. At the same time, we've been left to the devices of twenty-something pseudo-journalists who often reason in the manner of brainwashed true believers.

The Professor Mannes are always there to further embarrass a lapsed profession. To bring the note of comedy in, consider a somewhat comical term—"credibility."

Is Tara Reade's accusation "credible?" It all depends on what the meaning of "credible" is!

That said, almost any claim can be scored as "credible." Surely, no term is more forgiving and all-encompassing in the whole English language.

Almost any claim can be scored as credible, but "credible" isn't the same thing as "true!" Unfortunately, it's often played that way by people who want to move from the possibility that Reade's accusation is true to the statement that we should believe it.

In truth, almost any claim is "credible," including Joe Biden's denial. This is especially true given the logic our tribe has created, in which an accuser's reversals and self-contradictions can almost be taken as further evidence that her claims really are accurate.

True believers will announce that Reade's claim is credible, failing to note that Biden's denial is "credible" too. Consider this passage from a recent news report in the Washington Post:
LINSKEY AND SULLIVAN (5/3/20): Even so, the Biden allegations are prompting a struggle for many activists.

“Two things can be true,” said Rebecca Katz, a liberal Democratic operative. “There may be allegations that are credible, and also that Joe Biden might make a much better president than Donald Trump. And it is a real struggle trying to confront that.” She added, “If you’re going to say that you believe women, then you need to believe women.”

Even Lynda LaCasse, the former neighbor who provided some corroboration for Reade by saying Reade told her about the alleged incident several years after she said it happened, voiced ambivalence after seeing Biden’s MSNBC appearance.

“He looks very believable, too,” LaCasse said Friday in an interview with Democracy Now!, an independent news program. “But I’m hearing this today, and I heard Tara a long time ago telling me that. So, I’m struggling with it, with the election now.” She still intends to vote for Biden, she said.
LaCasse is a frequently cited "corroborating witness." According to LaCasse, Reade seemed believable back in 1996 when Reade told LaCasse whatever she actually told her. But Biden's denial seems believable too! To her credit, LaCasse doesn't seem to know quite what she should think!

This second judgment by LaCasse—Biden seems believable too—is rarely stated by the true believers. Meanwhile, there is Katz, seeming to toggle from "credible" to "true," at least as she's been quoted.

Also, because Reade's claim is "credible," Katz seems to think that we should believe it. She even seems to be back in the world where we should believe all such claims, as long as they're made by women. This is the comically awful parody of logic with which our failing tribe is hopelessly aligned.

Our national discourse has been in a freefall for many decades. We started building this site in 1997 because we thought the situation could no longer be ignored, even then.

Trump has taken things to a new level, but we liberals and progressives are ripe with Our Own Trumps. Meanwhile, a code of silence surrounds decades of howling incompetence by the upper-end mainstream press.

This includes the decades of war against Clinton/Gore/Clinton which put Donald J. Trump where he is. By rule of law, that long war cannot be discussed.

The upper-end press corps won't tell you about it. Neither will our legion of sleeping professors, who burble, slumber and snore.

During the twenty-month War Against Gore, our logicians could have helped us ponder the logic of paraphrase. Over the course of the past many years, they could have helped us with the epistemology of sex and assault accusations.

We don't know of a single philosophy professor who ever stepped forward to help. Instead, we have the Professor Mannes offering hapless parodies of competent professional service.

We've been in freefall for many years. Given the rise of partisan tribal media, we see on particular way out of this cascading mess.

Biden is awful, Trump is worse. Each candidate may be cognitively impaired. But just look at everyone else!

45 comments:

  1. Ha-ha. Squirm, dear Bob, squirm. Squirm like a good zombie-cult loyalist you are.

    "Each candidate may be cognitively impaired."

    Yes. And also, judging by your recent posts, so are you, dear Bob. Definitely.


    "During the twenty-month War Against Gore..."

    ...oh, and by the way, dear Bob, about your Demigod Gore. I watched the latest Michael Moore documentary recently: Planet of the Humyns. And apparently your Demigod Gore is a typical liberal-globalist scumbag (as if we didn't know it), bullshitting you zombies for profit.

    Could you comment on that, please, when your laptop is fixed? Thanks.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Mao,
      No matter how much gibberish you try to distract with, everyone will always know Trump's criminal negligence cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of American citizens.
      Bummer, huh?

      Delete
    2. Hello viewers around the Globe, Herbal Penis Enlargement product is 100% guarantee to Enlarge and get a better ERECTION ,the reason why most people are finding it difficult to enlarge Penis is because they believe on medical report, drugs and medical treatment which is not helpful for Penis Enlargement . Natural roots/herbs are the best remedy which can easily Enlarge your Penis permanently Contact Dr Olu via Email : Drolusolutionhome@gmail.com or via Whats App : +2348140654426 for Natural root and herbal remedies put together to help you get Enalarge and Erect healthy. Thank you.  

      Once again God bless you Dr. Olu for what you have done in my life.  

















































      Hello viewers around the Globe, Herbal Penis Enlargement product is 100% guarantee to Enlarge and get a better ERECTION ,the reason why most people are finding it difficult to enlarge Penis is because they believe on medical report, drugs and medical treatment which is not helpful for Penis Enlargement . Natural roots/herbs are the best remedy which can easily Enlarge your Penis permanently Contact Dr Olu via Email : Drolusolutionhome@gmail.com or via Whats App : +2348140654426 for Natural root and herbal remedies put together to help you get Enalarge and Erect healthy. Thank you.  

      Once again God bless you Dr. Olu for what you have done in my life.  Hello viewers around the Globe, Herbal Penis Enlargement product is 100% guarantee to Enlarge and get a better ERECTION ,the reason why most people are finding it difficult to enlarge Penis is because they believe on medical report, drugs and medical treatment which is not helpful for Penis Enlargement . Natural roots/herbs are the best remedy which can easily Enlarge your Penis permanently Contact Dr Olu via Email : Drolusolutionhome@gmail.com or via Whats App : +2348140654426 for Natural root and herbal remedies put together to help you get Enalarge and Erect healthy. Thank you.  

      Once again God bless you Dr. Olu for what you have done in my life.  

















































      Hello viewers around the Globe, Herbal Penis Enlargement product is 100% guarantee to Enlarge and get a better ERECTION ,the reason why most people are finding it difficult to enlarge Penis is because they believe on medical report, drugs and medical treatment which is not helpful for Penis Enlargement . Natural roots/herbs are the best remedy which can easily Enlarge your Penis permanently Contact Dr Olu via Email : Drolusolutionhome@gmail.com or via Whats App : +2348140654426 for Natural root and herbal remedies put together to help you get Enalarge and Erect healthy. Thank you.  

      Once again God bless you Dr. Olu for what you have done in my life.  

      Delete

    3. Skip to content
      Using Gmail with screen readers
      Conversations
      Gmail Setup
      25%
      Setup progress

      0 GB (0%) of 15 GB used
      Manage
      Terms · Privacy · Program Policies
      Last account activity: 13 hours ago
      Details
      Compose:
      New Message
      MinimizePop-outClose

      Recipients
      HOW I GOT MY HUSBAND BACK IN 2 DAYS WITH THE HELP OF DR. KEKE ODIN OF GREATKEKESPELLTEMPLE@GMAIL.COM

      My name is Mary Hamel, i want to share this great testimony of my life to every one. I was married to my husband Antonio Harmel, i love him so much we have been married for 8 years now with two kids.He went on vacation to Cyprus were he met a lady called Cylee, he told me that he is no longer interested in our marriage any more. i became so confused and started seeking for help, all effort to bring him back failed until i met an old friend called Jane and i told her about my problem. She then introduce me to a man called Dr Keke Odin who caste a spell for her that brought her ex back to her within 2 days. I contacted Dr Keke Odin to help me bring back my husband and he ask me not to worry that the gods of his fore-fathers will fight for me. He told me by 48 hours he will re-unite me and my husband together. After two days my husband called and told me he is coming back home to me and the kids. I was surprise when I saw him and he started begging for forgiveness...we are one happy family now. all thanks to great dr. keke Odin. if you need his help you can contact him via: greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com or call +1 561-463-4056


      Delete
    4. PROFESSIONAL SPELL CASTER WHO CAN HELP YOU WITH LOVE-SPELL TO GET YOUR EX LOVER BACK URGENTLY AFTER BREAKUP/DIVORCE EVEN IF YOUR SITUATION SEEMS HOPELESS! CONTACT: INFINITYLOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM IS CERTAINLY THE BEST SPELL CASTER ONLINE AND HIS RESULT IS 100% GUARANTEE..
       
      After 3 Years in a relationship with my Boyfriend, my Boyfriend started going out with other girls and showing me cold love, on several occasions he threatens to broke-up with me if I dare question him about his affair with other girls, I was totally devastated and confused until an old friend of mine told me about a spell caster on the internet DR GREAT who help people with their relationship and marriage problem by the powers of love Spells, At first I doubted If such thing ever exists but decided to give it a try, When I contact him, he told me everything I needed to do and I did and he helped me cast a Love Spell and within 28Hours my boyfriend came back to me and started apologizing, now he has stopped going out with girls and he is with me for good and for real. Contact this Great spell Caster for your relationship or marriage problem. 
      Here's his contact..

      CALL/WHATSAPP: +2348118829899

      EMAIL: infinitylovespell@gmail.com  OR  infinitylovespell@yahoo.com  

      BLOG http://infinitylovespell1.blogspot.com







      PROFESSIONAL SPELL CASTER WHO CAN HELP YOU WITH LOVE-SPELL TO GET YOUR EX LOVER BACK URGENTLY AFTER BREAKUP/DIVORCE EVEN IF YOUR SITUATION SEEMS HOPELESS! CONTACT: INFINITYLOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM IS CERTAINLY THE BEST SPELL CASTER ONLINE AND HIS RESULT IS 100% GUARANTEE..
       
      After 3 Years in a relationship with my Boyfriend, my Boyfriend started going out with other girls and showing me cold love, on several occasions he threatens to broke-up with me if I dare question him about his affair with other girls, I was totally devastated and confused until an old friend of mine told me about a spell caster on the internet DR GREAT who help people with their relationship and marriage problem by the powers of love Spells, At first I doubted If such thing ever exists but decided to give it a try, When I contact him, he told me everything I needed to do and I did and he helped me cast a Love Spell and within 28Hours my boyfriend came back to me and started apologizing, now he has stopped going out with girls and he is with me for good and for real. Contact this Great spell Caster for your relationship or marriage problem. 
      Here's his contact..

      CALL/WHATSAPP: +2348118829899

      EMAIL: infinitylovespell@gmail.com  OR  infinitylovespell@yahoo.com  

      BLOG http://infinitylovespell1.blogspot.com









      PROFESSIONAL SPELL CASTER WHO CAN HELP YOU WITH LOVE-SPELL TO GET YOUR EX LOVER BACK URGENTLY AFTER BREAKUP/DIVORCE EVEN IF YOUR SITUATION SEEMS HOPELESS! CONTACT: INFINITYLOVESPELL@GMAIL.COM IS CERTAINLY THE BEST SPELL CASTER ONLINE AND HIS RESULT IS 100% GUARANTEE..
       
      After 3 Years in a relationship with my Boyfriend, my Boyfriend started going out with other girls and showing me cold love, on several occasions he threatens to broke-up with me if I dare question him about his affair with other girls, I was totally devastated and confused until an old friend of mine told me about a spell caster on the internet DR GREAT who help people with their relationship and marriage problem by the powers of love Spells, At first I doubted If such thing ever exists but decided to give it a try, When I contact him, he told me everything I needed to do and I did and he helped me cast a Love Spell and within 28Hours my boyfriend came back to me and started apologizing, now he has stopped going out with girls and he is with me for good and for real. Contact this Great spell Caster for your relationship or marriage problem. 
      Here's his contact..

      CALL/WHATSAPP: +2348118829899

      EMAIL: infinitylovespell@gmail.com  OR  infinitylovespell@yahoo.com  

      BLOG http://infinitylovespell1.blogspot.com

      Delete
  2. There is a lot of agony going over the details of what happened between Reade and Biden, but Somerby never devoted such effort into determining the "truth" of the allegations against Hunter Biden when Biden was VP. Somerby accuses the public and especially the media of taking prurient interest in sexual matters, but here he does the same thing.

    We don't need to determine the truth of Reade's allegations. We only need to decide who we will vote for. Just as we didn't need to travel to Ukraine and figure out what happened with Hunter Biden, we only needed to decide whether we want another term for Trump.

    The timing of this allegation is too significant to make this anything but a political attempt to injure Biden's candidacy, and that is true whether Reade is telling the truth or lying. That makes our considerations of her account political in nature too. We can all figure out our own political interests and vote them in November. Reade's attempt to affect the election is obvious, whatever her prior experiences with Biden.

    If you believe, like Somerby, that women's accusations shouldn't derail campaigns, then set aside Reade's complaint and consider Biden vs Trump on their relative merits. Sex is not part of the job title of the president.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. set aside Reade's complaint and consider Biden vs Trump on their relative merits. Sex is not part of the job title of the president.

      I think most voters agree, regardless of what they might say in public. Perhaps the best example is Bill Clinton. Voters liked him because he was a good President. Conservative voters liked Trump because they believed he would be a good President. I don't think the Reade accusation should hurt Biden, and I don't think it will him. I think Read's accusation will be almost forgotten by November.

      Delete
    2. " I don't think the Reade accusation should hurt Biden, and I don't think it will him."

      This would've been true, dear David, if not for the following details:

      1. Rapist Joe is credibly accused of rape. Not 'sexual harassment', rape. Not something that can be easily overlooked. And

      2. Their zombie cult produced so much mouth-foaming and fake outrage in their recent Brett Kavanaugh drama, that some of their zombie follower might suffer a severe case of cognitive dissonance. Not all of them are well-versed in doublethink yet.

      Delete
    3. I'm surprised how many people I encounter who haven't heard the details of the Biden rape.

      When they do they are shocked. This isn't going to help Biden.

      Delete
    4. Why don't you tell them that Biden practices satanic worship? I'm sure people would be shocked by that even more. And it wouldn't help Biden at all. Better yet, tell them Biden hates dogs and cats and wants open borders! That'll shock people. Just make shit up and see how shocked people will be.

      Delete
    5. Why don't you tell them that Biden practices satanic worship?

      They can't use the same attack they already used on Secretary Clinton. They need to be more creative than that.

      Delete
    6. David would like everyone to know that he doesn't consider accusations against Biden to be relevant to the election and they will have no influence whatsoever on his vote. Bwahahaha!!
      He just likes to come here and insist that he believes them, repeatedly over and over and over again.

      Did David ever tell you about his dog-eared copy of the Starr Report? Unfortunately, so many pages are stuck together that the book is pretty useless now.

      Delete
  3. "We don't know of a single philosophy professor who ever stepped forward to help."

    Why are philosophy professors expected to defend Gore? Shouldn't that be the job of car mechanics, grocery clerks, dentists, and insurance salesmen?

    ReplyDelete
  4. Biden isn's awful and he isn't cognitively impaired. Is this how Somerby helps keep Trump from a second term? By maligning the Democratic nominee?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. He’s dancing as hard as he can, I would think you’d appreciate it.

      Delete
    2. Is this how Somerby helps keep Trump from a second term?

      Somerby is presenting his honest view of the Democratic candidate. However, people like @10:57 don't want honesty. They just want to win. In their view, Trump is so horrible that morals should be thrown out the window in order to defeat him.

      Delete
    3. Trump threw morals out the window, that's what makes him so horrible.

      Delete
    4. DinC agrees that Donald J Chickenshit is a repugnant racist lying sack of shit immoral ignorant megalomaniacal narcissistic repulsive foul foul excuse of a human with a long history of sexual assaults and peeping in on naked underage girls in dressing rooms, however,

      he's willing to overlook all that because he wants to reward his historic incompetence leading to 100000 dead Americans and counting plus the highest unemployment rate since the great depression. You see, DinC is just being a pragmatic voter.

      Delete
  5. Men are not as believable because their denials are always self-serving, even when true. Women's accusations are nearly always made at some personal cost to the woman herself. Reade may think she is getting attention, or perhaps she is being paid, but she is always going to be treated going forward as someone with emotional problems, someone dangerous, someone who shouldn't be hired because she might be "trouble." She seems like an attention-seeker, someone with a vendetta, someone who is damaged. Somehow the man accused always seems to be given a benefit of the doubt.

    This he said/she said scenario is never an equal playing field in terms of the consequences for he vs she, when there is no trial and no conviction.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. You're right @11:26! It's even worse than that: Under our system the accused is presumed innocent until *proven* guilty - talk about a tough and unjust hurtle to clear!

      Delete
    2. @4:10 Don't confuse legal proceedings, civil or criminal, with social acceptance. Al Franken did't go to court but his career was ended because his behavior was inconsistent with expectations for a Democratic senator. Voter opinions matter because they determine likelihood of reelection and ability to function in the job.

      When women stick together, their accusations matter, whether they can be proved in court or not. That's why men's rigging of the justice system to prevent conviction on sexual crimes isn't going to be effective protection for sexual predators who hold office. Republicans don't feel the same way, obviously, or Trump wouldn't have been elected.

      The problem for Reade is that Democratic women don't believe her and tend to consider her accusations to be politically motivated. They didn't feel the same way about Blasey-Ford. That suggests that there isn't a blanket acceptance of accusations by Democratic women but a weighing of facts in each situation.

      Delete
  6. Trump's dick is the size of a chiclet.

    ReplyDelete
  7. Involved in this is the hard-wired human attraction to so-called "motivated reasoning," in which we tend to believe the claims which align simplistically with our preconceived view of the world. In which we embellish the evidence which supports the claim we want to believe, while disappearing sources of doubt. In the next paragraph he says Republicans aren't like this. I don't think this is true at all

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Here’s what TDH wrote in that first paragraph:

      Involved in this is the hard-wired human attraction to so-called "motivated reasoning," in which we tend to believe the claims which align simplistically with our preconceived view of the world.

      Here’s what I think you read in the next paragraph

      One "progressive" after another has embellished the evidence which seems to support Reade's claims. This just doesn't happen Over There on the crackpot right.

      Which means, as you say, that Republicans “aren’t like this.” (Props for equating Republicans with the crackpot right, by the way.)

      Now, that’s just a guess on my part because that’s the way I read it at first, but what TDH actually wrote was

      This doesn't just happen Over There on the crackpot right.

      Which means the opposite: Republicans are like this; they’re just not alone because we’re keeping them company.

      Delete
    2. Excellent post, deadrat. Your point is also supported by Bob's reference to motivated reasoning as "human", meaning we all do it, progressives and conservatives alike.

      However, I'm not clear on why Bob says "one progressive after another" are embellishing evidence that tends to support Reade. On the contrary, IMHO most progressives are tending to ignore evidence, which is what Bob has done here. In all his verbiage, he never presents a dispassionate description of all the evidence.

      Delete
    3. King Pedant gets a wet kiss from the Village Idiot. Bravo!

      Delete
  8. Reade was credible in her interview with Megyn Kelly.

    We still should operate under DON'T believe women until the charges are proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. It's encouraging that in practice we still apply the standard and got rid of Obama era elimination of due process for men accused on college campuses.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Men should be allowed to do whatever they want on college campuses. Why should they be held accountable for their behavior? Especially if they are on a sports team. Men need to express themselves freely so they will be able to go on and compete in business without any hangups about how to treat women.

      Delete
    2. Men have an inherent right to be free—to think and express their own views and desires without women’s hectoring oversight and censorship.

      Delete
    3. Objecting to rape is censorship?

      Delete
    4. Of course not. Don't be stupid.

      Delete
    5. Incels have a right to wank their little peepees without their moms interrupting them .

      Delete
  9. “we liberals and progressives are ripe with Our Own Trumps.”

    This seems to come as a shock to Somerby. Of course, he has spent a good portion of his blogging career setting up a giant straw man: liberals think they’re so perfect.

    Few liberals think that. The giant rift in the left, between Bernie and Hillary voters, shows anything but a unity of thought and anything but a belief in the perfection of liberals. As Will Rogers said, “I don’t belong to an organized political party; I’m a Democrat.”

    Liberals and progressives are human beings, with flaws, like any other group of people. There will be cranks, crackpots, and Trump-like figures.

    Somerby has taken his dislike of the direction that liberalism took over the past 50 years, (in other words, since deciding to stand for civil rights), and created the aforementioned straw man. He attacks liberals for something they don’t believe about themselves in order to portray liberals as stupid and irrational.

    It got old 10 years ago.

    ReplyDelete
  10. I think of credibility as the Canssandra problem. Cassandra's curse was to always tell the truth but never to be believed. She was truthful, but not credible.

    ReplyDelete
  11. Wow I can't believe this whole time the reason we couldn't get anything done is tribalism and not complete lack of interest or concern by the top 9% of the population who run everything.

    ReplyDelete

  12. Skip to content
    Using Gmail with screen readers
    Conversations
    Gmail Setup
    25%
    Setup progress

    0 GB (0%) of 15 GB used
    Manage
    Terms · Privacy · Program Policies
    Last account activity: 13 hours ago
    Details
    Compose:
    New Message
    MinimizePop-outClose

    Recipients
    HOW I GOT MY HUSBAND BACK IN 2 DAYS WITH THE HELP OF DR. KEKE ODIN OF GREATKEKESPELLTEMPLE@GMAIL.COM

    My name is Mary Hamel, i want to share this great testimony of my life to every one. I was married to my husband Antonio Harmel, i love him so much we have been married for 8 years now with two kids.He went on vacation to Cyprus were he met a lady called Cylee, he told me that he is no longer interested in our marriage any more. i became so confused and started seeking for help, all effort to bring him back failed until i met an old friend called Jane and i told her about my problem. She then introduce me to a man called Dr Keke Odin who caste a spell for her that brought her ex back to her within 2 days. I contacted Dr Keke Odin to help me bring back my husband and he ask me not to worry that the gods of his fore-fathers will fight for me. He told me by 48 hours he will re-unite me and my husband together. After two days my husband called and told me he is coming back home to me and the kids. I was surprise when I saw him and he started begging for forgiveness...we are one happy family now. all thanks to great dr. keke Odin. if you need his help you can contact him via: greatkekespelltemple@gmail.com or call +1 561-463-4056


    ReplyDelete
  13. God bless Dr. USELU for his marvelous work in my life, I was diagnosed of HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS since 2018 and I was taking my medications, I wasn't satisfied i needed to get the HERPES out of my system, I searched about some possible cure for HERPES i saw a comment about Dr. USELU , how he cured HERPES with his herbal medicine, I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my health, he sent me the medicine within 3 days. I took the medicine as prescribed by him and 2weeks later i was cured from HERPES contact him via email (dr.uselucaregiver@gmail.com) once again thanks to you Dr. USELU cure the flowing virus, contact his email or add him on whatsapp (+2349019328641) cancer cure
    diabetes cure
    ringing ear
    herpes cure
    warts cure
    HPV cure
    HIV cure
    get your ex back
    pregnancy herbal medicine
    Hepatitis  

    ReplyDelete
  14. Hello everyone i am happy to say that i was cure from HIV/AIDS by Dr Padman with his herbal medications after i tested positive july 2016 and ever since then i have been on medications to extend my living on earth. One faithful day i was searching on line if i could get some tips on how to cure my illness and i saw a comment on how Dr Padman cure HIV with herbs,i was surprise and i contact him on the email they provided on the comment and i explain my problem to him and he also prepare the herbs and send to me which i use for one week as i was instructed by him and after 2weeks i went to hospital for checkup and i tested Negative and i am fully cured from the disease and i am so greatful to Dr Padman.You can also reach Dr Padman on his padmanlovespell@yahoo.com , https://twitter.com/padman_dr. https://padmanspell.com WhatsApp +19492293867

    ReplyDelete
  15. My Name is Dr AZIBA, Herbal Remedy Product is 100% guarantee for Penis Enlargement growth and Thickness you can Contact Me via Email: Priestazibasolutioncenter@gmail.com For Best natural male enhancement Product with 100% guaranteed results. I prepare top Herbal selling male enhancement product with herbal formula and no side-effects And also for other Disease or virus such as HPV,HSV,HERPES,HEPATITIS, DIABETES,CANCER and lots More, Contact Me Via Email :Priestazibasolutioncenter@gmail.com and WhatsApp +2348100368288 Or website https://naturalherbsmedicine.webs.com/ FACEBOOK PAGE: @DOCTOR AZIBA

    ReplyDelete
  16. Lotto results rely upon the likelihood of tickets and a good fortune of the individual. That is my many people purchase the tickets over and over but don’t win anything.
    The reason why most people never win for their entire life it’s because of bad omen but the good news is that my powerful lottery spells can clear that bad luck from you. Working with my spirits for these kinds of spells clears bad luck from you and infuses you with good luck and positive energy. The power of my lottery spells brings luck and wins during your lottery games. Clearing paths with in the universe for money and great luck to reach you. These powerful lottery spell castings will bring wins in your lottery life and change your life.
    Get out of debts and pay your bills with lottery wins using powerful lottery spells. Lottery spells bring you money so that you can enjoy the life of being in higher social status.
    Enjoy more of life and edit your mistakes so that you can accomplish financial freedom. So summon Dr.Nana for his powerful lottery spells and become a winner from the looser you have been because everything is possible once you discover how to do it.

    Here’s his my contact  Nanakwakuspiritualist@gmail.com Call /Whats App me +234 902 990 5501.
    my website https://lotteryspellsthatworkfast.blogspot.com/ 

    ReplyDelete

  17. Hi my name is Clara Lowton i was suppose to keep this a secrete but i thought the less because someone might be in need of help.
    I was depressed when i found out that my husband was avoiding me and hardly give the kids his time, always giving different excuse for not making up for the lost time. for know good reason not even when am still very much attractive, I was devastated, heartbroken, i pleaded with him to consider the kids but he never payed any attention to what i was saying which was unusual of my husband this prompted me to seek for help because the memory of all the amazing moment we had together and am still so much in love with him even with his infidelity i still loved, cherished and respect him for being there for me when i had know one which made me seek solution from close relatives and few friends of mine and thank goodness for a friend helped and at first i was really scared not because of anything but i was afraid of hurting my husband but the spell caster who specializes in love spell to bring back your husband/wife ,ex, gambling luck, wealthy life spell, protection spell and all kind of spell, he assured me of his safety and that was how i got my husband back, am sorry for the poor expression of myself because of how joyous and happy I'm, i know how wrong it's to post this but i have to because i promised him(spell caster)that i will testify to his good work if my husband returns to me and kids, and that's what am doing regardless of how improper it's, am posting it to testify to Dr Oboite Zazabo wonderful work in my marital life and also for women going through similar situation in the universe, You can contact him through this means, email Droboitezazabo@gmail.com or what is app +1 (319) 246 2035.....

    ReplyDelete
  18. I want to thank of great Dr. Todd he brought my boyfriend back to me. i had seen many people to get him back but nothing, Dr. Todd gave me a consultation and told me all truth, and I trusted Dr. Todd and had him do the spells for me. it took awhile because it was very very messy between us. i had to wait for each spell to do its work. but once the last spell finally was working and the other spells had worked, that is when he called. we met. then it took many more meetings. but now we are back together and i can only thank Dr.Todd, he is the greatest, i will come to Dr. Todd for life. Todd took care of me like family. contact; manifestspellcast @ gmail. com manifestspellcast.wordpress.com
    WhatsApp:+1 604 901 9747

    ReplyDelete
  19. I’m BARBARA CAMPBELL FROM USA. I never believed in Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster called DR DEGBONO.. The man i wanted to marry left me 3 months to our wedding ceremony and my life was upside down.he was with me for 4 years and i really love him so much..he left me for another woman with no reasons..when i called him, he never picked up my calls and he don't want to see me around him…so,when i told the man what happened. he helped me to do some readings,and after the readings he made me to realize that the other woman has done some spells over my Husband and that is the reason why he left me..he told me he will help me to cast a spell to bring him back. At first i was skeptical but i just gave it a try…In 4 days, My Husband called me himself and came to me apologizing.I cant believe he can ever come back to me again but now i am happy he's back and we are married now and we live as a happy family..Am posting this to the forum if anyone needs the help of this man.Can contact him through this email: degbonotemple@gmail.com or WhatsApp +14696301798

    ReplyDelete
  20. I’m BARBARA CAMPBELL FROM USA. I never believed in Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster called DR DEGBONO.. The man i wanted to marry left me 3 months to our wedding ceremony and my life was upside down.he was with me for 4 years and i really love him so much..he left me for another woman with no reasons..when i called him, he never picked up my calls and he don't want to see me around him…so,when i told the man what happened. he helped me to do some readings,and after the readings he made me to realize that the other woman has done some spells over my Husband and that is the reason why he left me..he told me he will help me to cast a spell to bring him back. At first i was skeptical but i just gave it a try…In 4 days, My Husband called me himself and came to me apologizing.I cant believe he can ever come back to me again but now i am happy he's back and we are married now and we live as a happy family..Am posting this to the forum if anyone needs the help of this man.Can contact him through this email: degbonotemple@gmail.com or WhatsApp +14696301798

    ReplyDelete
  21. LOTTO, lottery,jackpot.
    Hello all my viewers, I am very happy for sharing this great testimonies,The best thing that has ever happened in my life is how I win the lottery euro million mega jackpot. I am a Woman who believe that one day I will win the lottery. finally my dreams came through when I email believelovespelltemple@gmail.com and tell him I need the lottery numbers. I have spend so much money on ticket just to make sure I win. But I never know that winning was so easy until the day I meant the spell caster online which so many people has talked about that he is very great in casting lottery spell, . so I decide to give it a try.I contacted this great Dr Believe and he did a spell and he gave me the winning lottery numbers. But believe me when the draws were out I was among winners. I win 30,000 million Dollar. Dr Believe truly you are the best, all thanks to you forever


    ReplyDelete