WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2023
Is our own tribe a part of this problem?: How will President Biden be remembered in fifty years?
Disconsolate experts widely insist that there may be a next fifty years! Assuming those experts are wrong about that, how will Biden be remembered?
At the start of today's New York Times column, Bret Stephens asks that very question. In our assessment, his answer is exactly half right:
STEPHENS (2/1/23): A half-century from now, Joe Biden’s presidency will be remembered, as most presidencies are, with a short summary sentence. It will read: “He defeated Donald Trump, and ____________.”
It won’t be the infrastructure bill, the rate of inflation or the Inflation Reduction Act—which, so long as China, India, South Africa and other countries continue building huge coal-fired plants, probably won’t lead to a major reduction in global greenhouse-gas emissions. It won’t be Hunter’s emails. Nor will it be whether he served one term or two.
What will matter in 2073 is whether he reversed the global tide of democratic retreat that began long before his presidency but reached new lows with the Taliban’s victory in Afghanistan and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. If Biden can turn it, it will be a historic achievement. If not, much darker days will lie ahead.
In our view, Stephens is exactly half right. The existential crisis at hand involves the "democratic retreat that began long before [Biden's] presidency."
That part of Stephens' assessment is right. But in this column, Stephens focuses on the "democratic retreat" taking place around the globe.
We'll suggest that we should focus instead on the astonishing democratic retreat taking place right here at home. With that, we turn again to Tucker Carlson—but also, to the failing performance of our own blue tribe.
Last night, Tucker was at it again, right straight out of the box. "Democracy" doesn't begin and end with the occasional use of a ballot box. "Democracy" is very hard to maintain in the face of behavior like this:
CARLSON (1/31/23): For three years, the U.S. has lived under a permanent government-designated Covid emergency. At this point, looking backward, no one can agree on what the point of it was. Certainly nobody got any healthier, that's for sure.
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At this point, Biden has the functional IQ of office furniture, but his instinctive viciousness remains intact.
So Biden, the second he got into office, wasted no time at all in blaming Americans for a virus that China created. And then, in using the pandemic to pit neighbors against one another. It was the cruelest and most divisive thing any president has ever done to his own country. If you've forgotten what it looked like, here you go.
At this point, Tucker played tape of Biden announcing an emergency rule requiring vaccination against Covid or the weekly showing of a negative test.
After playing the tape, Tucker offered this paraphrase of what Biden had said:
CARLSON: Our patience is wearing thin, Americans. If you won't take an untested experimental mRNA shot from a company that has bought immunity from Congress against future lawsuits, you are a selfish Neanderthal. Worse, you're a killer. You're literally—literally—killing your own neighbors. The only good news is you will soon die yourself because you deserve it.
That's what Joe Biden said. The president said that to his own people. And it was, of course, a lie. Leaving aside its potentially terrifying side effects, the shot did not work as advertised. Sorry, it just didn't. It did not prevent people from dying. It did not even prevent them from transmitting or getting Covid themselves. And that's why vaccinated people still wear masks.
Everyone knows this, but Joe Biden has never admitted any of it...
President Biden told his own people that they would die because they deserve it!
Along the way, he did "the cruelest and most divisive thing any president has ever done to his own country." It was a part of his "instinctive viciousness," a certain cable star said.
That's the way last night's program began, and things went downhill from there. In the second segment of his program, Carlson began explaining why the whales are dying off the coast of New Jersey and New York.
(Hint: It's because of Joe Biden.)
Also, he interviewed Captain Bob Snow. Snow almost crashed an American Airlines jet because of an incident of cardiac arrest caused by his forced vaccination—his forced vaccination by Biden.
It's like this every night. On Monday night, Carlson had interviewed a slightly goofy small farm chicken farmer. Based on alleged events at his small farm, the fellow was able to explain where all the eggs have gone.
Is it true that democracy dies in the dark? That, of course, is a figure of speech, but "democracy" simply can't function with people like Carlson broadcasting material like this to millions of people each night.
By the way, we forgot to let you sample what he said about Michelle Obama. As it turned out, that was the focus of last night's opening segment. Some of it went like this:
CARLSON: Take three steps back. Barack Obama, the former president, is weighing in directly on America's latest fake hate crime. And you have to wonder why.
He's not doing it for himself. Obama is retired at this point. He's living on Martha's Vineyard with all the other rich white people. He's doing it for his wife. His wife, who's never had a real job and apparently is feeling kind of restless, approaching 60. And that's why you may have noticed that, six years after leaving Washington, Michelle Obama is back in the news. She's got a new book and a media tour and even a federally funded hiking trail named for herself in Atlanta.
Why has she emerged in this way? Well, there might be a reason. In fact, if you didn't know any better, if you were visiting this country from a foreign land trying to figure out what's going on in the U.S., you might mistake what Michelle Obama is doing right now for the beginnings of a presidential campaign. So first, you have a manufactured white racism panic.
We're skipping the parts about menopause and Michelle Obama's thighs.
No part of last night's program conforms to anything resembling the journalistic and intellectual norms which developed and took hold over the past several thousand years.
The biggest star on "cable news" has gone completely off the rails within the past year. His program now is pure id, or it's whatever lies beyond pure id, and his viewers can't tell.
His viewers can't see that he's gone off the rails. Political systems resembling "democracy" are going to die as a result of such breakdowns.
Question! Does Captain Bob Snow possess even one tiny clue about the cause of his alleged cardiac arrest?
On last evening's program, there was no sign that he does.
Also, does the current Nassau County Executive possess even one clue about why the whales have been dying? There was no sign that he does.
How about that slightly goofy small farm egg farmer? Does he know have any idea where all the eggs have gone?
We think you know the answer! But none of this matters on this crackpot "cable news" program on the thoroughly crackpot "cable news" channel as an abandoned child's remarkable meltdown continues.
Stephens is certainly right in one way. If anyone's here fifty years from now, they'll be living in the aftermath of the way we've addressed this "democratic retreat," which is more like a retreat from traditionally understood norms of intelligence and sanity.
Carlson blows the bugle for that retreat at 8 P.M. each night. The mainstream media, and the other major organs of our own blue tribe, almost wholly ignore the specifics of his weird nightly meltdowns.
No, Virginia! Almost surely, you can't have anything like a "democracy"—you can't expect to maintain a functioning nation—in the face of an onslaught like this. This morning, though, were leaving you with a question, one we'll explore tomorrow.
Our question goes like this:
Is it possible that our own self-impressed blue tribe is also a part of this problem? In addressing your important question, we'll return to Monday's column by Charles Blow—and we'll return to the truly stupid mugging and clowning performed by Rachel that night.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but our own blue tribe frequently gives Tucker Carlson the rocket fuel he apparently sniffs just before he goes on the air.
Experts say it's much too late for us to fix this state of affairs. "It's all anthropology now," these disconsolate scholars all tell us.
We end with one final point:
Carlson's opening monologue was pure id last night. We recommend that you read the transcript.
As the later Wittgenstein said in a totally different context, it's virtually impossible to address the poisoned fruits of such a moral and mental breakdown. Here's the passage from Philosophical Investigations which we have in mind:
106. Here it is difficult as it were to keep our heads up—to see that we must stick to the subjects of our every-day thinking, and not go astray and imagine that we have to describe extreme subtleties, which in turn we are after all quite unable to describe with the means at our disposal. We feel as if we had to repair a torn spider's web with our fingers.
It was like he had to repair a spider's web with his bare hands! Wittgenstein was speaking about the gigantically fractured logic of the western world's greatest philosophers, but the principle applies here.
It's very hard to address the web of The Crazy which Carlson now spins every night. The question we leave you with is this:
Is it possible that the major tribunes of our own tribe are also a part of this problem? Should we physicians within our own tribe consider healing ourselves?
Tomorrow: Blue Monday
"Is it possible that our own self-impressed blue tribe is also a part of this problem?"
ReplyDeleteNo. And it is ridiculous to suggest so. Another blatant and unbelievable lie.
Thanks for documenting conservative atrocities, Bob.
ReplyDeleteI honestly don’t see anything particularly equivalent on the “blue” side, not even in the deepest bowels of MSNBC.
But I’m willing to listen.
Persuade me.
Looks like Carlson was finally so bad Bob couldn’t get to his customary square up. Interesting to note that Bill Maher, who has become a virtual Mcacarthite figure (Woke is his communism) went to bat for Carlson recently in a particularly disingenuous fashion. One wonders if Bob still digs Maher or maybe secretly, like me, he’s ashamed of once giving him some credit.
Delete"Carlson's opening monologue was pure id last night. We recommend that you read the transcript."
ReplyDeleteWhy? There is a lot of crazy out there. What purpose is served by reading it? Who suggests reading conservative lies except conservative propagandists -- Somerby has been one for some time now. Reading Carlson leads to mind rot. Why would Somerby undermine the sanity of thinking people by suggesting they read lies about Michelle Obama?
Broad strokes: I do think complacent liberals know too little of the hate world of the likes of Mao. It's part of how we got here, they will not go away if you ignore them. Granted, you don't have to watch that garbage every night.
Delete"Wittgenstein was speaking about the gigantically fractured logic of the western world's greatest philosophers, but the principle applies here."
ReplyDeleteNo, it doesn't. When you rip statements out of their original context, they do not apply to other contexts without distortion of the original meaning. Wittgenstein had no idea who Tucker Carlson is, and he was not talking about Carlson or about Republicans or about democracy or about anything in today's news.
Somerby seems to have been captivated by the image of trying to repair a spider web, that's all. He doesn't say what web anyone would be trying to repair. Is Carlson a spider? Or is Stephens a spider? Or is Somerby perhaps the spider? But if any of these guys are the spiders, why would we readers by trying to repair their webs? And what good ever came to a hapless fly from helping in their own demise? Maybe Wittgenstein is the spider -- that makes as much sense as anything else Somerby says. But webs are for catching unwary victims, not for making sense out of words that are blatant lies -- upon which any effort at reconstruction is senseless.
Somerby is another conservative asshole trying to shove Trump down our throats while pretending to care about democracy. If you want to help Biden protect American democracy, go read a different blog.
MSNBC has been telling people where the eggs actually went. So has the NY Times. I'm not sure what the problem is on that score -- our news media seem to be doing their job fine, whereas Carlson is engaging in politically motivated propagandizing. Most of us can tell the difference, except for some Republicans (the rest are watching Carlson because he hates on their own despised Others, us).
ReplyDeleteIf Somerby wanted to do some good in the world, he might list the facts to counter every lie Tucker (and Stephens) tell each day, for wayward souls. Instead, he tries to make liberals feel like shit by blaming us for Carlson's success with the weak-minded.
But the fact remains that WE do know where the eggs went.
"Should we physicians within our own tribe consider healing ourselves?"
ReplyDeleteI know physicians and Somerby is no physician.
Somerby is a confused old man who allowed a troll to clog his comments yesterday with a verbal DoS attack:
""Denial of service" or "DoS" describes the ultimate goal of a class of cyber attacks designed to render a service inaccessible."
This one involved filling the comments with so much meaningless garbage that no one else could engage in discussion (the actual purpose of the comments).
If Somerby has the ability to block such trolls as spam, it would be a good start toward healing himself. I doubt anyone here really believes he doesn't read his comments, but other spam gets blocked eventually, so why not this stuff?
I feel like the commenter made a very salient point about DIGBY
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Interesting, now a right winger is attempting vandalism on the comment section. I’ve seen it before. It speaks for itself.
Delete11:57: If you don’t stop this, you may cause Google to delete Somerby’s blog, because, if he continues to allow these kinds of destructive comments, he will be in violation of Google’s terms of service.
DeleteStop what?
DeleteC'mon. Let's not pretend that posting "Digby" hundreds of times isn't the Right's smartest, most well-thought-out economic idea tin their history.
DeleteClimate change is at least as dangerous as the decline of democracy, and the continuing threat of nuclear war is as dangerous as both.
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ReplyDelete"Disconsolate experts widely insist that there may be a next fifty years! Assuming those experts are wrong about that, how will Biden be remembered?"
Eh, did you mean "there may NOT be", dear Bob?
Yes, definitely. With your war-mongering supremacist tribe in power, in all likelihood there will not be a next fifty year. And consequently no one will be remembered.
...'nuff said.
From Digby:
ReplyDeleteFormer President Donald Trump shredded the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, and MSNBC as “fake news media” in a series of videos shared to his Truth Social account and his campaign’s war room Twitter account on Wednesday.
“The fake news media like CNN, MSDNC – which is sometimes referred to as MSNBC –the Washington Compost – which is sometimes referred to as the Washington Post – and the failing New York Times are doing really, really badly and closing up shop all over the place,” said Trump in one of his videos.
He added:
"CNN is shuttering its longtime headquarters building and the money-losing Washington Post is being peddled all over to see whether or not somebody wants to buy it. In the meantime they’re firing massive numbers of people. Not reporting with credibility has its consequences. The future of the fake news looks bleak and that’s a positive thing, but beware the Marxists and communists, which are well represented in our government. Many of them got there by fake news, so we have to stop it."
Not digby, so the asshole troll is back today.
Delete12:25
DeleteActually, that is from Digby.
no
DeleteWell it looks like Somerby's Nazi asshole is back trying to disrupt the message board.
DeleteAsk Bob if I should be nice to him.
1:24 Digby said she wrote that post on her boat.
DeleteFrom Digby:
ReplyDeleteThe fifth and final report of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, released in August 2020, highlighted the connection between Manafort and Kilimnik as the “single most important direct tie between senior Trump Campaign officials and the Russian intelligence services” and labeled it “a grave counterintelligence threat” to the United States. Some of the Democratic members of the panel, in an addendum, wrote that Manafort’s sharing of campaign data “is what collusion looks like.”
But the evidence of Kilimnik’s Kremlin ties is far from certain, and the question of whether Manafort’s dealings with him were personal or campaign-related are even murkier.
As for Kilimnik possibly being a Russian spy, the only known official inquiry, by Ukraine in 2016, didn’t result in charges. More recent claims that he worked for the Russians, by the Senate intelligence panel in 2020 and the Treasury Department in 2021, offered no evidence. Conversely, there are FBI and State Department documents showing Kilimnik was a “sensitive source” for the State Department. (The documents were disclosed a few years ago by John Solomon, founder of the Just the News website. Kilimnik, in an email to me, confirmed his ties with State.)
Post the link.
DeleteThat's actually not Digby. I think it's Luke from the Rude Pundit.
Delete5:47 how do you feel about that though? Kilimnik was working with the State Department? He met with them as late as spring of 2016. What are your feelings about that?
Delete"Court filings in 2019 showed that the total value of the IRA’s Facebook ads that were deemed election-related amounted to $2,930, in a political cycle where billions of dollars were spent. The only reporter to write about that finding was Sperry, of Real Clear Investigations."
DeleteI guess Digby and the Rude Pundit and Lawyers Guns and money and Driftglass and all of NBC and the New York Times felt like this wasn't important information for you to know.
It's good to know that they have your back isn't it?
Isn't it good to know that they will only tell you things that you want to hear? That just feels so so good!
How Barr’s Quest to Find Flaws in the Russia Inquiry Unraveled
DeleteThe review by John Durham at one point veered into a criminal investigation related to Donald Trump himself, even as it failed to find wrongdoing in the origins of the Russia inquiry.
7:33 can you explain what your point is exactly?
DeleteI'm surprised Tucker Carlson's comments last night, that Republicans should be shot in the head gangland style, isn't getting a lot more pushback.
ReplyDeleteThe Anonymous 2:56pm is trying to be cute by quoting from this Columbia Journalism Review article and attributing it to Digby.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.cjr.org/special_report/trumped-up-press-versus-president-part-4.php
It’s five parts. It’s fascinating, fair, and well worth reading.
By Jeff Gerth.
DeleteNo thanks.
"By Jeff Gerth.
DeleteNo thanks"
LOLOLOL
I refer you to someone named, um, “Bob Somerby”, to tell us about Jeff Gerth:
Delete“In this way, and in that year, a dimwitted era was born.
The pivotal role by the New York Times begins in 1992. It begins with Jeff Gerth's bungled front-page reports about the Whitewater pseudo-scandal. (Have you ever seen a journalist try to explain how Gerth's claims came out, or even what they were?)
Gene Lyons dissected the bungling in Harper's, one of our most respected liberal journals (except at moments like this). His essay was expanded into a 1995 book, Fools For Scandal: How the Media Invented Whitewater.
The media to which Lyons referred were the New York Times and the Washington Poat. For that very reason, his book was ignored by the upper-end press corps.
Gerth's bungled front-page reporting was never acknowledged by the rest of the guild. This led to a decade of pseudo-scandals, and eventually onward to Trump.”
http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2020/10/the-era-which-was-this-has-become-week.html
Read it and weep, suckers.
mh, why would I be especially bothered because Bob doesn’t care for a journo who happened to write something that I admired?
DeleteI’m not an anonymouse.
Because his track record isn’t good. Who knows, maybe you admired his Whitewater reporting. But he was, and is, a bungler. Keep that in mind as you seek confirmation bias in the work of a bungling journalist.
Deletemh - I'm familiar with every word of that. Unfortunately, it doesn't change the reality of what he has written about the press and the Clinton campaigns Russia farce. You can either disprove what he has written with sources or choose not to read it at all.
DeleteHe's a bungler Pulitzer prize winner, therefore you won't even read it. That's very convenient. It's cool.
DeleteEither you accept the truth that the media and the Clinton campaign used Russia falsely against Trump for years or you don't. The matter is settled. It's been over for a long long long long time. Luckily for your ego the information sources that extended the farce will not confess to it or even let you read any information that incriminates them or discredits the discredited theory. This is the main thrust of what Bob writes about for years. These siled information sources that tell each party exactly what they want to hear is bad for our democracy. And it's sad to see you take part in it.
Deletemh, Bob daily warns you about “confirmation bias” as regards the media and you’re here attacking him daily for doing that.
DeleteNo, Cecelia, in this case, I am warning you about Gerth. Surely, even right wingers like yourself need to guard against confirmation bias. Somerby was 100% right about Gerth. He is untrustworthy, and the article you quoted is seriously flawed, bungled even. You’re welcome.
DeleteWhich part is flawed?
DeleteThis is the same person that posted quotes from the unabomber that then Cecelia approvingly responded to. Bwahahahahahaha
DeleteThe Mueller report involved the most tepid investigation (from a fellow right winger) and took the stance that the president is immune from prosecution, yet filled a volume with Trump’s corrupt connections with Russia, and wound up indicting/convicting/taking guilty pleas from 34 people and 3 companies.
Trump colluded right in the open “Russia if you’re listening…”
To deny Trump’s corruption, including that related to Russia, is to excuse his corruption, is to endorse the notion of corruption. Hey, more power to you. At least we know who you are, a lost soul with no moral compass.
Btw pretty lame troll, it takes maybe 3 sec to scroll past the infantile attempt. But you did sucker Cecelia, it’s interesting how much shame that guy endures, yet his own corrupt nature permits it.
Every accusation you've made there is debunked. There's no volume filled with corrupt connections, there were no indictments at all, not one, let alone convictions of anything that had to do with collusion or conspiracy with russia,, the Russia if you're listening quote was not open collusion. A stupider accusation really could not be even conjured. Trump decides to collude with Russia by communicating with them on live tv? Do you know how stupid that accusation is? I don't think you know how stupid it is. You've been so close to it for so long you never stepped back and thought about how completely idiotic that proposition is. You're repeating talking points that are lies. Did you know that? You probably don't even know it.
Delete8:51 you've gotten played so hard on this one. Lots of people have. That's why it's so interesting.
DeleteWhat’s interesting is to see how simple a move on the “conformation bias” pole it would take for Bob to go from “a-hole”
Deleteto saint in anonymouse thinking (THEY imply that his fans deify him…)
He will NOT surrender and do that for anyone. They hate him for that.
It's hilarious and sad. "Bob is 100% correct." Ha. Facing the fact they are wrong about this issue is equal to death since their egos are so heavily tied up in it. And in their defense as we know, people have lied to them thoroughly about it and have done so all day every day for years and years.
DeleteAnd it's funny that they claim to be atheists making fun of people who are religious while at the same time "believing" Trump would try to collude with Russia by communicating with them during a live press conference on TV!!!!! Which is as nonsensical as any religious idea. Really, sadly, so sadly, liberalism has become their religion. They fulfill their religious needs by following, of all things, Democrats! Sacrificing rationality for a series of insane nonsensical beliefs. It's very sad to see. It's a complete disaster.
DeleteJust to be clear about this. Trump intended and wanted to collude with Russia in 2016. But he had no way to communicate with them. So his plan was to, while he was holding press conferences, wait for the press to ask him about Russia so he could then, on TV, communicate his secret plans to collude with them by asking them to find Hillary’s missing emails - which were never found or hacked or had anything to do with Russia’s election interference activities. In the instance of that particular press conference, the press asked him about Russia three times and Trump waited until the third time he was asked to say ‘Russia if you’re listening …’
DeleteAnd you think that was a serious attempt to “collude”.
Do you know how fucking dumb and crazy you are?
How Barr’s Quest to Find Flaws in the Russia Inquiry Unraveled
DeleteThe review by John Durham at one point veered into a criminal investigation related to Donald Trump himself, even as it failed to find wrongdoing in the origins of the Russia inquiry.
But after almost four years — far longer than the Russia investigation itself — Mr. Durham’s work is coming to an end without uncovering anything like the deep state plot alleged by Mr. Trump and suspected by Mr. Barr.
Moreover, a monthslong review by The New York Times found that the main thrust of the Durham inquiry was marked by some of the very same flaws — including a strained justification for opening it and its role in fueling partisan conspiracy theories that would never be charged in court — that Trump allies claim characterized the Russia investigation.
DeleteWhoa, bold, italic... If it's in bold and italic, it must be true, no question about that...
I much prefer to believe the unhinged ravings of a frothing at the mouth Magat incel posting anonymously on a message board.
DeleteTsk. Sure. Whatever turns you on, dear Gyorgy...
DeleteThe Mueller Report offered two volumes, one on detailing all the corrupt connections between Trump and Russia - corruption it made clear Trump could not be prosecuted for because as President he had immunity, and another volume on the corrupt way Trump tried to obstruct the investigation into his connections with Russia.
DeletePointing how dumb Trump was to openly admit his collusion with Russia does nothing to diminish the corruption; you’re just excusing the immorality.
From the Mueller investigation, where they barely bothered to lift a finger, they were still able to land indictments/convictions/guilty pleas of 34 people and 3 companies directly related to Trump/Russia collusion.
You may not be bothered by corruption, but that’s on you, stop crucifying others for your own sins.
What was one of the indictments related to Russian collusion?
DeleteWhat is the point of posting the New York Times article about Durham?
DeleteWhat is your evidence that Trump colluded with Russia during a televised press conference?
DeleteDo you realize how stupid and crazy you are?
Mr. Durham’s work is coming to an end without uncovering anything like the deep state plot alleged by Mr. Trump and suspected by Mr. Barr.
DeleteTsk. Aggressively confronting brain-dead retards is undignified and demonstrates a lack of empathy.
DeleteThe appropriate responses are: Yes, dear. Sure, dear, colluded, dear. Durham bad, Biden good, dear.
10:24
DeleteWhat is the point you are trying to make? I don't get it. Do you feel like this means that Trump did collude with Russia during his televised press conference? That someone was indicted for collusion or conspiracy with russia?
My point is that this is a fucking lie. Magat.
DeleteAnonymousFebruary 1, 2023 at 8:14 PM
"Either you accept the truth that the media and the Clinton campaign used Russia falsely against Trump for years or you don't. The matter is settled."
How does the New York Times article about Durham refute that?
DeleteHow does the New York Times article about Durham refute that?
DeleteBy documenting how Durham and Barr completely failed to prove any of their hallucinations.
Now run along, wipe your mouth, and go play with yourself.
mh, okay. I’ll take that under advisement. I’ll try not to do ten paragraphs on Bob’s perfidy for critiquing Gerth.
ReplyDeleteWithin this series, Gerth mentions journos who won awards for pieces that were later proved less than accurate.
However, it’s heartening to see you have a meeting of the minds with Bob on this one.
"it's heartening"?
DeleteThat's a funny way to say, "it shows my theory about Anonymouses never agreeing with Bob is dead."
Feel free to use the words "I was wrong", Cecelia.
Anonymouse 8:51pm, I don’t remember approving any quotes from the Unabomber.
ReplyDeleteHowever, it wouldn’t be difficult to throw up a quote from any tyrant or nut that made sense out of the context of their intentions.
BTW: get over me.
Right wingers do tend to misremember their embarrassing moments, you can’t maintain immoral stances without an accompanying lack of integrity.
DeleteRefuting your nonsense is as trifling as swatting a fly.
If that triggers you to madly pound out rants on your worn keyboard, that’s on you.