NATIONAL SURVIVAL: What did David Brooks mean by his claim?

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 27, 2023

It's hard to "see others," he said: We have dwelt, for the past several days, upon what may seem to be a bit of a throw-away comment.

The comment was offered by David Brooks. It appears deep inside a lengthy essay in Sunday's New York Times. 

In that lengthy essay, Brooks is describing the way he has chosen to live over the past quite a few years. Most simply put, he decided that he needed to become a better person:

BROOKS (10/22/23): If you had met me 10 years out of college, I think you would have found me a pleasant enough guy, cheerful, but a tad inhibited—somebody who was not easy to connect to. In truth, I was a practiced escape artist. If you revealed some vulnerable intimacy to me, I was good at making meaningful eye contact with your shoes and then excusing myself to keep a vitally important appointment with my dry cleaner.

Life has a way of tenderizing you, though. Becoming a father was an emotional revolution, of course. Later, I absorbed my share of the normal blows that any adult suffers—broken relationships, personal failures, the vulnerability that comes with getting older. The ensuing sense of my own frailty was good for me, introducing me to deeper, repressed parts of myself. I learned that living in a detached way is a withdrawal from life, an estrangement not just from other people but also from yourself.

I’m not an exceptional person, but I am a grower. I do have the ability to look at my shortcomings and then try to prod myself into becoming a more fully developed person.

For "more fully developed," we'll substitute "better." At a certain point in his life, Brooks decided to try to prod himself into being a better person.

That strikes us as an excellent goal. Here's Brooks' initial account of the search he undertook:

BROOKS (continuing directly): I have learned something profound along the way. Being openhearted is a prerequisite for being a full, kind and wise human being. But it is not enough. People need social skills. The real process of, say, building a friendship or creating a community involves performing a series of small, concrete actions well: being curious about other people; disagreeing without poisoning relationships; revealing vulnerability at an appropriate pace; being a good listener; knowing how to ask for and offer forgiveness; knowing how to host a gathering where everyone feels embraced; knowing how to see things from another’s point of view.

In that passage, Brooks begins to describe the traits he sought to cultivate. This is what he says:

He says he wanted to learn to be more curious about other people. He says he wanted to know how to disagree with other people without poisoning his relationship with such persons.

He says he wanted to become a good listener.  He says he wanted to know how to ask for and offer forgiveness. 

He wanted to know how to make everyone feel embraced. He says he wanted to know how to see things "from another’s point of view."

Brooks wanted to know how to see things "from another’s point of view?" In a famous piece of American fiction, Atticus Finch tells his children that they should acquire that skill. 

It strikes us as an admirable goal. That said, it's late in his essay where Brooks makes the comment on which we've focused this week:

BROOKS: I wanted to learn these skills for moral reasons. If I can shine positive attention on others, I can help them to blossom. If I see potential in others, they may come to see potential in themselves. True understanding is one of the most generous gifts any of us can give to another.

Finally, I wanted to learn these skills for reasons of national survival. We evolved to live with small bands of people like ourselves. Now we live in wonderfully diverse societies, but our social skills are inadequate for the divisions that exist. We live in a brutalizing time.

"Finally," Brooks offers the remark on which we've focused this week.

Say what? In that brief passage, Brooks says he wanted to learn these skills for reasons of national survival. On Wednesday night, he fleshed out this idea a bit while being interviewed on the PBS NewsHour:

BROOKS (10/25/23): I'm not an exceptional guy, but I am a grower. I do change. And so I have been on a journey to try to become more emotionally available, more spiritually available, a better friend to people.

And the sad thing is, is as I have become on a journey to becoming a little more human, the country has been on a journey of becoming less human. And so we now live in bitter and divided times. There's just so much social pain. 

And this book is really an attempt to make us all better at seeing another person, making them feel seen, heard and understood, because, if our country is going to come back from the inhumanity, and if our families are going to come back from the breakdown, and if our workplaces are going to thrive, we just have to be really good at this skill of seeing others, making them feel valid, respected, heard and understood.

Our country is "becoming less human," Brooks said. In his essay, he had stated that point a different way:

"We live in a brutalizing time," he had finally said.

We live in a brutalizing time! If our country is going to recover from this, we need to learn how to "see others," Brooks said. 

After inserting a capital "O"—after turning others to Others—we'd be inclined to call that a very important idea.

In Brooks' account, it isn't all that easy to learn how to "see others." It involves the acquisition of a whole set of social skills, including the half dozen we've listed above.

Sacred Thoreau, off in the woods, may perhaps have offered a slightly different form of this view. At the very start of Walden, he described the problems his neighbors had in understanding his own behavior, and he offered a pregnant phrase about the lives of others:

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When I wrote the following pages, or rather the bulk of them, I lived alone, in the woods, a mile from any neighbor, in a house which I had built myself, on the shore of Walden Pond, in Concord, Massachusetts, and earned my living by the labor of my hands only. I lived there two years and two months. At present I am a sojourner in civilized life again.

I should not obtrude my affairs so much on the notice of my readers if very particular inquiries had not been made by my townsmen concerning my mode of life, which some would call impertinent, though they do not appear to me at all impertinent, but, considering the circumstances, very natural and pertinent. Some have asked what I got to eat; if I did not feel lonesome; if I was not afraid; and the like. Others have been curious to learn what portion of my income I devoted to charitable purposes; and some, who have large families, how many poor children I maintained. I will therefore ask those of my readers who feel no particular interest in me to pardon me if I undertake to answer some of these questions in this book. In most books, the I, or first person, is omitted; in this it will be retained; that, in respect to egotism, is the main difference. We commonly do not remember that it is, after all, always the first person that is speaking. I should not talk so much about myself if there were anybody else whom I knew as well. Unfortunately, I am confined to this theme by the narrowness of my experience. Moreover, I, on my side, require of every writer, first or last, a simple and sincere account of his own life, and not merely what he has heard of other men’s lives; some such account as he would send to his kindred from a distant land; for if he has lived sincerely, it must have been in a distant land to me...

Thoreau also seemed to be wondering about the lives of others. Somewhat unclearly, he penned this thought:

"If [some other person] has lived sincerely, it must have been in a distant land to me."

It may be hard to understand the lives of others! It's harder still when we instinctively tribal beings take a whole bunch of others and reinvent them as Others.

We thought we saw a crowning wisdom in the comments Brooks seemed to swallow. In our view, our national survival does seem to be at stake in this present disordered time.

Borrowing from Walden itself, what the Brister's Hill could we possibly mean by that? Next week, we'll address that question, and one more:

If our national survival is at stake, what should we do about that?

Next week: Clintons and others


77 comments:

  1. This is where navel-gazing gets you. Nowhere.

    Somerby quotes two self-involved people, estranged from those around them, to exemplify the entire human race. Do we take the word of Thoreau or Brooks for what "we" as a people are like? Why not ask someone better adjusted?

    If Brooks were sincerely trying to make contact with other people, acquiring those social skills, why would he come away believing that humans are brutal and that these are horrible times. He should come away thinking that his friends and neighbors are fine fellows and that people are better than ever. Because that is what happens when you spend time with other people without talking politics.

    It is the political junkies who watch cable news 24/7 who feel like the world is falling apart. Because that is what a focus on endless negativity gives you. Most people are going to sporting events, streaming movies and TV shows, having family outings and dinners, some are attending church, celebrating birthdays and holidays, going to parties and restaurants, and living their lives with their friends and relatives, just as we have always done. Life is back to normal after covid and we are back to our jobs and recreational activities.

    Most of us, when the news becomes too depressing, turn off that stream of info. Brooks and Somerby sound like burnouts with this nonsense about how awful humans are. Somerby won't name names, but it is Trump and Johnson and Boebert and MTG who are awful, on purpose, not those we choose to spend time with daily. Tune out -- then tune back in a few weeks before the election next year. The political world will not miss your participation and you will be a happier person for doing so.

    People are not designed to spend several hours each day bathed in conflict. In the hunter-gatherer and early agricultural societies we evolved in, things did not change rapidly from day to day. There was not a constant stream of bad news available 24/7 in the form of news. An occasional stranger might wander into the village, but otherwise, news consisted of daily life, which moves at a very slow pace. It is no sin to detach from that, including Somerby's drivel.

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    1. 1. Somerby offers you a free essay to read. Don’t you think it rude to come to this space, also provided by Somerby, and call his work “drivel”?

      2. If you think his work is drivel, why do you continue reading it?

      3. Have you considered that striking out at Somerby might be scratching some psychological itch of your own?

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    2. 1. Somerby, like thousands of other bloggers on blogspot, offers his posts for free because no one pays him to publish them.
      2. The real question here is: was today’s post drivel or not? I happen to think Brooks’ writing is drivel, so repeating it repeats drivel.

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    3. I don’t know if I agree with this, I would say it’s important to bear in mind self examination does not always result in accurate self appraisal. See “Hitch-22.” I would wonder if Brook’s book includes the nasty tone he took with those who disagreed with him on our triumphant
      invasion of Iraq.

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    4. Look at Drum. Look at Crooked Timber. You won’t see this persistent level of casual rudeness towards the host.

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    5. May have to do with quality of the product, Dogface.,

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    6. Speaking of casual rudeness…

      Drum never said liberals were dumb, lazy, and exuded a moral squalor, and that our morals are bad.

      http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-problem-is-us-as-we-liberals-emerge.html?m=1

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    7. Drum is an ignorant right wing mess, but he is more honest than Somerby about his politics; he openly embraces a centrist, neoliberal worldview.

      Somerby, on the other hand, gained his audience by attacking the media for being stenographers for Republicans, but then shifted to merely repeating right wing talking points himself, while trashing the blue tribe, mostly for daring to work against oppression.

      Now Somerby’s admirers are just the few right wing fanboy hanger-ons that are here to comment-bomb in their sad attempt to own the libs.

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    8. Just meaningless, casual insults.

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    9. Oh, and Somerby’s insults that I quoted? He insults millions of people very casually. And “our morals are bad…?” Pretty meaningless insult if you ask me, George.

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    10. mh - You really had to go back to 2014 to find an "insult," pulled out of context, by Somerby? Does that tell you anything?

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    11. Out of context? It’s Somerby’s driving principle.

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    12. His "driving principle" was that we liberals are not as smart and morally superior as we think we are.

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    13. In that passage, he used casual, meaningless insults to tarnish millions of people. The one I quoted is just the one that stuck in my mind. There have been many others. It’s all in service of what you said, which does not differ in any substantial way from what I quoted. I mean, come on, “liberals think they’re so superior” sounds like something a grade schooler would say, like say “liberals’ morals are bad”

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    14. His original driving principle for years was that mainstream media were lapdogs for Republicans, but in recent years he has flipped, himself now doing nothing more than repeating right wing talking points, while attacking the blue tribe with baseless and childish claims.

      One can want to be Somerby’s pet, more power to them, just as others can justifiably criticize his nonsense.

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  2. Thoreau thinks he is the only sincere person. How cute.

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    1. It can seem obnoxious, without considering the context; Thoreau was writing at a time of increasing worker exploitation and the horrors of chattel slavery, while being criticized for not conforming to the burgeoning capitalism-based society and it’s need for compliant worker bees. Thoreau dared to have compassion for the oppressed and curiosity about nature.

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    2. Somerby has been a bit more ambiguous as to whether Thoreau was generous towards or contemptuous of the working man. But I take your point.

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    3. Thoreau was a transcendentalist and a romantic:

      "The romantic period of American literature took place from 1830 to 1870 and emphasized nature, symbolism, transcendentalism, and individualism. Key authors of this period include Emily Dickinson, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Edgar Allan Poe, Harriet Beecher Stowe, and Walt Whitman."

      These people idealized nature and opposed industrialism but not because it was oppressing people:

      "To a large extent, English Romantic intellectuals and artists felt that the modern industrial world was harsh and deadening to the senses and spirit. These intellectuals called for a return, both in life and in spirit, of the emotional and natural, as well as the ideals of the pre-industrial past."

      This is why Thoreau escaped to the woods. It would have been nice if Thoreau had been a social critic and reformer like Charles Dickens, but he seems to have been infected by the views of his friend Emerson. Thoreau did not have that kind of compassion for the oppressed even though he and Dickens were contemporaries and Thoreau could have focused on the needs of others instead of looking inward. Being an individualist implies a lack of connection with the many, required for an identification with the working man or with slaves.

      Dickens is much better and was more widely read and did a great deal to publicize social problems. I don't understand Somerby's fixation on Thoreau when Dicksens is a wonderful writer with a great deal more to say.

      Do you really think the working man or the slave was worried about the deadening of his soul by civilization?

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  3. For moral and practical reasons, Mr Brooks and all the rest of Very Serious People should spend a few years doing some socially useful labor.

    Working on a farm, for example. Or a factory. Or in a coal mine.

    This is vital for the national survival.

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  4. It is very odd to hear Thoreau reporting that others wondered if he were lonely and what he had to eat. People who settled the fringes of society routinely lived under those same conditions, in hand-built cabins, foraging off the land and rarely seeing other people because the nearest neighbors were so far away. Thoreau's self-imposed life at Walden Pond was no different than pioneer life. Why then does Somerby and others make such a fuss over him? His description of his inner life is perhaps something many people identified with, even while he presents himself as a unique and wonderful being. That suggests some universality to his musings, not genius.

    Similarly, Brooks accuses himself of being uniquely awkward with other people for much of his life. He doesn't seem to know that many introverts feel that way -- it characterizes that personality trait. If Brooks were to attend group therapy, one of the first things he would discover is that most of the group would likely have felt the same way about their interactions with others. We are not as different as we suppose once we talk to others about how they experience relationships. But feeling different is part of loneliness (which can be experienced even with people around you).

    The parts of Brooks' book that Somerby describes do not sound like social skills much. I wonder whether Brooks has defined social skills differently than social psychologists do. He seems to be talking about other things than the mechanics of relating to people.

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    1. In fact, when at Walden Pond, Thoreau only lived 1.5 miles from his friend Emerson’s house:

      “The house was in "a pretty pasture and woodlot" of 14 acres (5.7 hectares) that Emerson had bought,[53] 1 1⁄2 miles (2.5 kilometers) from his family home.”

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau

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    2. Brooks is bitter because he is not recognized as a public intellectual, but as a right wing moron, engaging in the same grift as Jordan Peterson. Nothing he writes is genuine, he is attempting to commodify his bitterness, borne from god knows what early trauma.

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    3. Oh no, not Church Lady! Hi Church Lady! Aka, she who just looooves to hear herself talk and display (what she considers to be) her moral and intellectual superiority. She's a legend in her own mind.

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    4. lol Mike, pretty good assessment of Brooks’ folly.

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  5. I wish David Brooks all the best in the world.

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    1. A national op Ed is probably still quite a lucrative pop stand. I expect he’ll be fine.

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    2. Anonymouse 11:09am, true, however, some journeys require more than money.

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    3. Brooks needs hardship. That will toughen him up.

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    4. Hardship? He already had to pay a hefty price for drinks at an airport. Well, his employer did, but still…

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    5. Secilkunt at 11:18, we wouldn’t know it from your politics…..

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    6. Anonymouse11:58am, politics are just politics.

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  6. I presume Brooks is thinking about the political divide in the US. One way to have more empathy for the other team is to acknowledge that one might be wrong about something and the other side might be right. So, I acknowledge that even though I think Trump would be a better President than Biden, I might be wrong. Biden might be a better President than Trump.

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    1. you're full of shit David,

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    2. Apparently most of us are full of shit, walking around with about 5 pounds of shit at any given moment; without a doubt some of us walk around with more shit than others, and constipation is not uncommon.

      Trump, and indeed many Republicans, walk around with weird smiles and similar countenances that seem to indicate they are holding in a lot of poop. It may be that being a Republican emerges from a form of constipation. If Dems were truly decent, they’d be working on developing a better laxative, not whining about better healthcare and worker rights; they’d be promising a bidet for every toilet.

      You can’t just flush away 4.9% gdp.

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    3. Why not produce and ship to Europe even more bombs and missiles, bumping the gdp to 10%? Or higher? Sky is the limit.

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    4. GDP increase is due to consumer spending, not military production, but apologies if you are speaking euphemistically, I’m on board for shipping our shit to Europe, it stinks.

      Last week I went to Taco Bell, talk about bombs and missiles! I must say, though, I appreciate the cheap colon cleanse.

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    5. David, most of us hold opinions that we believe to be right because what is the point of holding a wrong opinion? (Unless you are Trump and trying to overthrow an election.)

      I am not going to tell some right winger that any of my opinions are wrong just to get him to like me. That is insincere and manipulative and NOT the way to establish a relationship with someone.

      I suspect that Somerby keeps trying to get his readers to acknowledge the possibility of some or another right wing stance because that admission is the first step to dislodging left wing beliefs and opens the door to accepting conservative propaganda.

      If someone says "Imagine for a minute that you believe life begins at conception, wouldn't that make you more likely to support abortion?" that is a technique for persuasion not a sincere way to achieve mutual understanding. A way to change student opinions is to assign them to argue the opposite side of whatever strongly held belief they hold on a topic. For example, "What would you say to someone who believes ghosts exist, to persuade them to change their minds?" The act of imagining the arguments results in the student changing their mind.

      This is another reason why I think Somerby's purpose here is to get liberals to think like conservatives in service of reelecting Trump. To maintain the fiction that he is liberal, he pretends he is just trying to get everyone to understand each other -- as if we cannot read for ourselves what MAGA politicians are saying and doing.

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  7. Brooks, and TDH seems to agree, that we live in an age of increasing brutalization, or national survival seems threatened. We don't know the future, though there probably will be all kinds of surprises, some but not all bad ones. Is this situation any different, or any worse than it has always been. Sacred Thoreau opined (not an exact quote0 that most people live lives of "quiet desperation." Just in the last century the world lived thru world War II, the great depression, the threat of nuclear war, and all kinds of seemingly intractable problems. In 1965, Barry Maguire had a big hit, called the "Eve of Destruction", the lyrics suggesting that was the eve we were on. Things were always "brutal", As Dickens said in the opening lines of "A Tale of Two cities" "it was the best of times, it was the worst of time," still applies today. Brooks' and TDH's hope is that every should be nicer and more tolerant to each other, including the "others" - I can't quarrel with that, but it may not comport with human nature

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    1. Is "seeing others and making them feel valid, respected, heard, and understood" different from "tolerating" them? Does the former involve empathy and acknowledgment of their perspectives and the latter imply a passive acceptance without deep understanding or connection?

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    2. AC, and what of course annoys the hell out us is what Dogface can’t seem to grasp: Bob’s solution is indifference (at best) on the brutalization of the left, endless compassion for the right. And here he mirrors what is so often delivered by Brook’s chosen profession.

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    3. "Bob’s solution is indifference (at best) on the brutalization of the left, endless compassion for the right."

      Perhaps the reason I can't grasp this is because this is not what Somerby has ever said. You could help me by quoting something showing otherwise. Until then, I'll just keep pointing out that mice like you just make shit up about Somerby.

      (Or, perhaps you can give us a lecture about "context" instead.)

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    4. What is the source for this claim? "Bob’s solution is indifference (at best) on the brutalization of the left".

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    5. Well, I’m not 2:16, but I’d say the “source” for that claim is his reading of Somerby over the years. Does Somerby ever debunk false or inflammatory claims about liberals that are in no short supply , or does he add fuel to that fire by saying our morals are bad and that we are virtue signaling elitists, over and over and over again?

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    6. A "source," refers to evidence or a citation that backs up the statement.

      If someone never debunks false or inflammatory claims about the left (or any group, for that matter), it doesn't necessarily mean they are indifferent to it.

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    7. Well, 4:49, it sure is hard to conclude that a person is concerned about something and not indifferent if they never show their concern and keep ignoring it. It’s not as though Somerby is told what to write.

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    8. mh - Come on. Do you really think that the "solution" - the solution! - Bob proposes includes "indifference to the brutalization of the left"?

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    9. No one said it was going to be easy. If you are really so concerned to the point you obsess about it every day, why have you not contacted him and asked him?

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    10. These trolls often claim to be different people, yet their complaints are consistently identical, and consistently misunderstand the message of the posts in the same manner.

      They mistake a plea for "empathy and acknowledgment" towards conservative opponents as an endorsement or acceptance of their views. They appear to desire a world where Liberals are never critiqued, and any critique implies instant opposition. In essence, their reasoning seems to be on par with a third-grade level.

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    11. George at 5:12: who knows? Has he said that, or its opposite, or..?

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    12. 5:24: Look back at how often he asks if conservatives don’t have a point when they espouse view x,y, or z.

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    13. mh 5:29 - I'll take that as your admission that Bob has never, to your knowledge, proposed a "solution" that included "indifference to the brutalization of the left."

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    14. Anon 5:24 - Amen.

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    15. Every broadcast four or The Five explain (well, scream) that Democrats hate America. Yet reading Bob you would conclude that it’s only the preening Nicole Wallace damaging America. Check the archives Dogface. When constitutional
      experts weigh in on the Trump crisis, the
      best the hapless Somerby can do is “Trump Trump Trump.” Idiocy like yours, Dogface, has played a major part in leading us to this.

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    16. George at 5:41: no admission at all. “Solution” was not my word. But Somerby really never exhorts Republicans to clean up their act. One can be forgiven for thinking that his idea is that liberals just start being nice, and then what?…. Do you honestly think that will fix the Republican side of things? Should republicans be left alone instead of prosecuted when they commit crimes, because Somerby says over and over that we liberals prosecute Trump etc for pure political spite. As an example.

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    17. "Yet reading Bob you would conclude that it’s only the preening Nicole Wallace damaging America."

      Why?

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    18. When reading Bob do you conclude that it’s only the preening Nicole Wallace damaging America?

      No. You don't.

      But when reading Bob you conclude others would conclude that it’s only the preening Nicole Wallace damaging America.

      Why?

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    19. mh - what is your source for thinking Somerby's idea is that liberals just start being nice?

      Where does that come from?????????

      It's very strange that even one person would reason that poorly but two or three seems statistically impossible.

      (Source means direct evidence or a citation that backs up the statement.)

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    20. "5:24: Look back at how often he asks if conservatives don’t have a point when they espouse view x,y, or z."

      Why?

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    21. Well, 6:23, because someone said above “ They mistake a plea for "empathy and acknowledgment" towards conservative opponents as an endorsement or acceptance of their views.” He most assuredly does ask liberals to endorse or accept certain conservative views.

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    22. Somerby is a right winger, pushing a right wing agenda.

      When pointed out, this circumstance triggers the Somerby fanboys.

      Sorry fanboys if you do not like being pointed out that a simple cure for your naïveté is to start incorporating basic notions like context and implication. Granted, the red tribe would endorse and encourage dismissing these notions, while the blue tribe wants to help people improve their lot and not be suckered by right wingers. Some find this blue tribe desire for progress obnoxious, so be it.

      Somerby daily says something like: Our blue tribe has made a lot of mistakes, and our errors have made us look bad.

      And then follows up by listing our mistakes as defending the oppressed, promoting personal freedom and human rights, and working against oppressors. He says these actions cause the red tribe to dislike us and not vote for us. These are incredibly childish views, offered without any evidence.

      Somerby would like us to all get along, but only according to his version of getting along, essentially saying: yo slaves, have some compassion for your slavers. He is, well pretends to be, a child.

      The blue tribe has real issues: we have a neoliberal wing, we acquiesce too much, we are not great at motivating our voters, we are not good communicators, we do not define political terms well.

      Somerby never address the real issues the blue tribe has, he only attacks the blue tribe from a red tribe’s perspective.

      Brooks is a well known right winger, when he talks about connecting with others, what he means is he wants the blue tribe to stop calling out sexism, racism, and right wing corruption. Brooks is a joke. Yet that’s who Somerby endorses today, a right winger trying to gaslight the blue tribe.

      Sorry fanboys, but context does matter.

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    23. mh - your reasoning is if someone makes a plea for "empathy and acknowledgment" towards conservative opponents and they also sometimes say conservatives have a point when they espouse view x,y, or z, it means they endorse or accept Conservative views.

      Making a plea for "empathy and acknowledgment" towards conservative opponents and sometimes saying conservatives have a point when they espouse view x,y, or z doesn't mean one endorses or accepts all conservative views. It simply indicates an agreement on specific issues. As with any group, nuances exist, and it's possible to agree with some aspects while disagreeing with others.

      Your reasoning is profoundly flawed in the most basic and fundamentally ways possible.

      It's hard to believe that multiple people would apply this bizarre reasoning in the exact same way, because the reasoning itself is so utterly off base.

      It's weird man! Your'e a fucking weirdo.

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    24. 6:32 Better trolling please.

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    25. When the questions are “can you understand that the others want their guns” or “the others are opposed to abortion”, or “the others might not want another majority black district”, he is asking us to consider opinions that run counter to fundamental liberal principles. He isn’t just pleading for empathy and understanding. He frequently talks about liberals getting more votes from the red tribe.

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    26. Preening does not damage America.

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    27. I took Bob's advice and listened to "the Others".
      They sure are a bunch of bigots.
      Thanks, Bob.

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    28. @10:44 AM

      Are you one of those recently equipped with high powered hearing aids? Hearing voices?

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  8. Anon 6:32 - "Sorry fanboys if you do not like being pointed out that a simple cure for your naïveté is to start incorporating basic notions like context and implication."

    I love how whenever Somerby-haters cannot support their Somerby-hate with any citation, they give us a lecture about context and implication.

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    1. Somerby has been writing for about 25 years, with 50 weeks in a year, and maybe 10 essays a week, and perhaps 50 sentences per essay, that means he's written about 625,000 sentences. (And, as has been explained to me, there is a handy Search function.) So if you really wanted to tell us what Somerby says, I think you should be able to find a sentence that actually says it, without your having to add your supposed "context" or your supposed "implication." Because here's the thing: I do not believe your spin on what he says is always entirely accurate.

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    2. Language doesn’t work that way.

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    3. In those 625,000 sentences, please find an instance of Somerby actually supporting a liberal cause.

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  9. With “implication” and “context,” you can pretend that Somerby says, “Yo slaves, have some compassion for your slavers!”

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  10. I am not mh or any of the several other liberal commenters here. I am also not Corby or the idiot troll who keeps cluttering the comments. I criticize Somerby nearly every day and when I do, I take care to point out exactly how Somerby is representing, advancing or defending a right wing meme or right wing person. I link the topic of the day to an agenda of advancing right wing goals. I quote the parts of his essay that demonstrate this.

    This game of calling for quotes or cites and then saying they don't prove anything is a waste of everyone's time because you Dogface George are not engaging liberals here in good faith.

    I plan to continue pointing out where Somerby is promoting conservative memes. Or you can go back and read the comments for the past month or two (or further). But I am not going to respond to your demands and I don't care how obtuse you are -- it isn't my job to convince you of anything.

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    1. Your comments are much better than mine. I am not Corby.

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    2. Corby is adorable.

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  11. "After cheating on my wife with my young assistant, divorcing my wife and marrying my young assistant, I've now learned my lesson and trying to improve as a person, which is why I'm divorcing my my now not-so-young second wife and marrying my even-younger new assistant" - David "humility" brooks

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