FRIDAY, JULY 11, 2025
Segregation by viewpoint: In all honesty, we'd already begun to wonder about it.
The shooting occurred on the Fourth of July. It became a larger news event when ten arrests were announced on Monday, July 7. They were ten arrests for attempted murder in an unusual shooting incident outside an immigration detention center in Alvarado, Texas.
We'd seen this matter cited with some regularity on Fox. That didn't seem like especially crazy news judgment to us.
That said, we didn't think we'd seen the incident mentioned pretty much anywhere else. We had to hunt around a while to find this report at the New York Times. The Times report has never appeared in print editions.
Headline included, the AP report started as shown. There is no paywall to vex you:
10 held in Texas immigration detention center shooting that was ‘planned ambush,’ US attorney says
Ten people have been arrested on attempted murder charges after attackers in black military-style clothing opened fire outside a Texas immigration detention center in a “planned ambush” that left one police officer wounded, a prosecutor said.
The officer was shot in the neck on Friday, the night of the Fourth of July, after reporting to the Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, about 40 miles southwest of Dallas. He was treated at a hospital and released, the Johnson County Sheriff’s office said.
The shooting took place as President Donald Trump’s administration ramps up deportations, which will be turbocharged by a massive spending bill that became law last week.
Initially, the attackers set off fireworks, and damaged cars and a guard structure by spray-painting “traitor” and ”ICE pig” on them. The attack “seemed to be designed” to draw U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement personnel outside the facility, “and it worked,” Nancy Larson, acting U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Texas, said at a Monday night news conference in Fort Worth.
Two unarmed corrections officers spoke to the group in the detention center’s parking lot as someone standing in nearby woods appeared to signal with a flashlight, according to a criminal complaint. Then the Alvarado police officer arrived and someone in the woods opened fire, Larson said.
“Another assailant, who was across the street, nowhere near the corrections officers, shot 20 to 30 rounds at these unarmed corrections officers,” she said. “There was an AR-style rifle found at the scene” that was jammed, she said. A flag saying “Resist fascism, fight oligarchy,” and flyers with words such as “Fight ICE terror with class war” also were recovered near the center.
The report continues from there.
This seems like a striking event. As charged, this wasn't the act of some lone wolf, as was the case with the recent Minnesota murders. As charged, this seems to have been the act of an organized, ten-member group.
The incident was getting a lot of play on Fox. By our reckoning, it seemed to be getting weirdly limited play everywhere else.
And then, holy cow! Isaac Schorr offered an opinion piece at Mediaite which started off like this:
CNN and MSNBC Completely Ignore Left-Wing Domestic Terror Attack on ICE Agents
On the Fourth of July, 11 left-wing activists mounted a domestic terror attack on Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.
“The defendants, dressed in black military-style clothing, began shooting fireworks at the facility, as part of an organized attack,” alleged the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Texas in a press release on Tuesday. “After approximately 10 minutes of convening, one or two individuals broke off from the main group and began to spray graffiti on vehicles and a guard structure in the parking lot at the facility. An Alvarado police officer responded to the scene after correctional officers called 911 to report suspicious activity. When the Alvarado police officer arrived, one alleged defendant positioned in nearby woods shot the officer in the neck area. Another alleged assailant across the street fired 20 to 30 rounds at unarmed correctional officers who had stepped outside the facility.”
If you hadn’t heard about it yet, you might just be a CNN or MSNBC viewer; neither network has devoted a single minute of airtime to covering the attack, though CNN managed to devote a sentence to it in an online story about another attack on immigration authorities.
The piece continues from there. We don't know why Schorr cites eleven alleged assailants. He links to this formal press release which only refers to ten.
Setting that to the side, we're struck by Schorr's claim about the lack of reporting of this event on CNN and MSNBC.
Neither network has devoted a single minute of airtime to covering the attack? We can't vouch for the perfect accuracy of that claim, but it tracks our own sense of puzzlement about the way this incident was and wasn't being reported within our nation's two major tribes.
These seems like a very strange event. It has led to ten arrests on the charge of attempted murder.
Red America gave it big play. It seems to us that Blue America didn't.
A few weeks back, Red America adopted a somewhat similar stance as its "cable news" messengers seemed to downplay the Minnesota murders. Increasingly, our news orgs are segregated by viewpoint, and they sometimes seem to report or disappear the types of facts which will keep their viewers reinforced in their preferred view of the world.
“FIGHT ICE TERROR WITH CLASS WAR?” Given the tenor of the times, this seems like a real news event.
Steven Pinker is innocent.
ReplyDeleteThen why is there so much evidence connecting Pinker to Epstein? You would do Pinker a bigger favor if you stopped plastering his name all over the internet.
DeleteI’m not trying to do him any favors. I’m trying to tell the truth.
DeleteThere’s no evidence connecting Pinker to Epstein’s crimes.
DeleteFck anybody for helping a known pedo. Gross.
DeleteHelping a defendant get a fair trial isn’t a crime.
DeletePinker has not been charged but neither have the facts been made public about who was involved with Epstein. We know that there is a bunch of evidence linking Trump and several other men with Epstein, not just Pinker. It seems odd to me that this troll has singled out Pinker for attention.
DeleteThis troll says it is the truth that Pinker is innocent. I don't want to play word games over that word, but it seems to me that right now only Pinker knows what he did and didn't do. I doubt Pinker is this troll, so I don't know who is mounting a campaign to mention Pinker so often in such unsavory circumstances. Does this troll perhaps think that if Pinker is innocent, then so is Trump? There is no likelihood of Trump being considered innocent in a moral sense once everyone knows what he has done, and there is evidence beyond the Epstein files about that, including court depositions, airplane logs, pictures of Trump with Epstein (just as in Pinker's case), Trump's own recorded remarks about his relationship with Epstein, and things other people have said from their own knowledge about Trump and Epstein.
I hope this will come out because we all deserve to know the full extent of Trump's involvement. I don't care about Pinker. He's another narcissist with misogynistic attitudes, but he is not the president of the USA.
Telling a known pedo to fuck right of isn't a crime 5:31.
DeleteThe clear conclusion: Steven Pinker is innocent.
DeleteBefore this week I never heard of piker Pinker. Now I hope he dies a horrible death serving out his time for raping preteens. In a cell with the felon.
DeleteI disagree with you, but you are committing no crime, so you too are innocent.
DeleteAside from the one-sided description of what happened and the scarcity of facts, this comes across as a case when some young dudes were fucking around and now are being over-charged by the govt in what was nothing like an attempted murder or ambush.
ReplyDeleteThey caught some guys in a parking lot with fireworks (on July 4) and spray paint, sounding off about ICE. A few had weapons (which are legal in TX). There was no organization and no one was hurt except for one officer with a minor wound to his neck, of unspecified cause. It was treated and the officer was immediately released. They are calling this a conspiracy because a couple of the guys arranged rides via Signal chat. The accusers call a flashlight in the woods "some kind of signal" and one person fired some shots that went nowhere and hit no one. That is the sum total of this supposed ambush.
This is why no major outlet is reporting this in the mainstream media. The right is hyping the story by calling it something it does not appear to have been. The actual details are murky because of the lack of interviews with the young men involved. Caution should be exercised by the press.
The reason the right is pushing this story via Fox is because it fits their political narrative that the left is armed and dangerous and that protesters are violent. This support their own excessive use of force in San Francisco, where a military vehicle ran into a crowd of 6 protesters on purpose.
Somerby's credulous demand to know why this story didn't appear in the mainstream (legacy) media, such as on CNN and MSNBC, expresses no skepticism and asks no questions about the incident, other than calling it strange that it was not reported on the left.
Is Somerby really that big an idiot? Does he automatically accept whatever Fox feed him? Does he not apply any common sense to situations he reads about? And if something seems fishy (as this does), does he only make authority-justifying speculations and not wonder about the absence of any perspective from the young men who are charged with these crimes, most of which amount to one big nothingburger. A bit of vandalism and perhaps some reckless use of a firearm by one guy, and that's about it. Even by Somerby's account (NYTimes) the young men were talking to the officers, not murdering them. If that neck injury were from a weapon, it would be more serious and the victim would have been held in the hospital, because bullets do actual damage.
Somerby says:
"they sometimes seem to report or disappear the types of facts which will keep their viewers reinforced in their preferred view of the world"
This story was reported by the right. Do you think the facts as reported reinforce the right's narrative of what happened? I don't. I think the facts undermine the story as reported.
They’ve been charged with serious crimes. That’s newsworthy. False charges of serious crimes are a big deal. We the people should know that our government is doing that. And if the charges are true, that’s a big deal, too.
DeleteOdd that there is no mention of drinking involved.
DeleteHas Texas generally been a hotbed of antifa activity? Is Alvarado TX where you would plan your first big murder-ambush activity if you were organizing a left-wing milita?
Just as the right routinely suggests, their accusation might actually describe their own acts. This might be a bunch of right wing jackoffs pretending to be lefties in order to smear the left with both Keystone Kop bungling and evil motives that would justify Trump putting all lefties in jail immediately!
Given the stories put out by the right after other incidents of violence, the press is smart to wait and see who these men turn out to be. They might even be included on Hegseth's Signal chats for all we know. Time will tell while fools rush in.
The mere fact that they’ve been charged should be reported.
DeleteThese weirdos can't even pull off a decent Reichstag fire. Sad. It has gotten media by me, and now it will be a flood because nothing the enemy of the people like promoting/protecting more than the true enemies of the people.
Delete@5:28 They've certainly been charged with serious crimes. Do the details support such charges, in your opinion? False charges would be a big deal but don't forget that the govt is doing the charging and would also need to be involved if charges related to false accusations were brought. I can see Texas official buying into over-charging these guys, but I can't see them brining false accusation charges if the govt and/or Republican officials were guilty of manufacturing this situation in order to blame Democrats.
DeleteI agree that the public should know what is true, regardless of the answers.
Here's a hypothetical. When a drunken love lorn young man takes a rifle to his girlfriend's house to beg her to take him back, they talk a while and no one is shot, then the police arrive, do they typically charge the guy with attempted murder? Even if he has fireworks for the 4th of July?
The incident should be reported. The charges should be reported.
DeleteThe media should make no assumption about guilt or innocence. The government should not be assumed to be telling the truth. The defendants should not be assured to be telling the truth.
The incident occurred, charges were filed. That’s newsworthy.
"I can't see them brining false accusation charges" - Yup. Straight shooting Texans that stick to their... I'm sorry what was that about AG Ken Paxton and his impeachment...
DeleteAge had become an issue for Biden. And his aides kept him in the dark about how poorly he was being received by the public. Contrast this with what Trump has done for the average American worker.
DeleteBiden was so competent and boring, the media made his age a scandal.
DeleteDoing things for the average American worker is not the President's job.
DeleteWe voted for bigotry, not to help American workers.
The unpopularity of the Democrats is fixable.
Delete"Contrast this with what Trump has done for the average American worker."
Delete???
We are so fortunate to have Trump at this moment in history to try to stop some of the carnage of the Democrat s/ Biden failed experiment.
DeleteTrump's tax breaks for companies which hire illegal immigrants, instead of white people, has most of America saying "Thank you Mr. President."
DeleteFortunately, it's good for woke Disney's bottom line, as well.
DeleteTrump is more conceptual and experimental.
DeleteSomerby says 10 Arrests but no Reports? I'm sure there are arrest reports, which is where reporters should start with collecting facts.
ReplyDeleteIt is odd that there are no reports by the lawyers representing the accused. Nothing from the families or the young men themselves in the news. It is almost as if they were being held incommunicado. Have they pled guilty?
Somerby mentioned an 11th guy. Was he arrested? I've seen mention of a 12th guy too. Elsewhere, the FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for one of these two, not sure which one. Is it the guy in the woods (or by some fence) who shot 20-30 rounds and never hit anything? The report doesn't say whether any of the guys was actually holding the AK15-style weapons they found in their cars. My understanding is that cars in TX come equpped with weapons, so how is that a crime?
Maybe Somerby will figure it all out.
Posted here yesterday: https://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2025/07/american-discourse-it-could-be-as-many.html?showComment=1752190660396#c8733941703653941377
ReplyDeletePlenty of coverage from so-called "Blue" outlets.
Everyone should follow both liberal and conservative news sources. Otherwise you will miss a lot f news. Mainstream media counts as liberal. For conservative pov I like Instapundit.
ReplyDeleteI like Groundnews.com.
Deletehttps://ground.news/
DeleteMainstream media is not liberal. Substacks are liberal. Mainstream media is corporate and it is busy bending a knee for Trump.
DeleteOMG. What if Trump’s tariff plan works!
ReplyDelete“The U.S. government posted a surplus in June as tariffs gave an extra bump to a sharp increase in receipts, the Treasury Department said Friday.
With government red ink swelling throughout the year, last month saw a surplus of just over $27 billion, following a $316 billion deficit in May.”
Wait and see.
DeleteAs the value of the dollar continues to shrink according to this administration's plan, and retailers protect their profit margins/stock prices by incorporating tariffs into the retail cost of imports, what do you think is going to happen? The inventories that were stockpiled in response to Trump's threats will not last forever.
Delete85% of the coffee consumed in this country is Brazilian. The temper tantrum manifesting as Trump attempting to strong arm that government is a prime example of how little respect he has for the American consumer. Unless the Brazilian government falls in line politically (which ain't happening) to his demands, Trump threatens to raise the price of coffee via high tariffs. The American consumer is left to hope that like so much else that Trump threatens, it is bullshit.
Tariffs should cause inflation, but how much? I agree with @10:59 -- to a degree. But. what is the magnitude of the tariff-caused inflation? What fraction of our purchases are imports? In some areas, importers may have to eat the tariff in order to compete with US manufacturers. Is anyone familiar with any studies showing how much prices will increase due to tariffs?
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DeleteDickhead in Cal will ignore this question as he usually averts his eyes. Who the fuck is paying those tariffs you dumb fuck fascist freak?
You forgot to add your signature line, Dickhead in Cal. Don't you want to tell us how you would like to thank the fucking fat criminal lying sack of shit? You are slipping, Dickhead in Cal. Senility?
Delete10:16 is smelling a lot like that fantastic jobs report (that wasn’t) that came out last week
DeleteTariffs accounted for 1.7% of revenue in 2024. A couple months of fixing chaos and the budget is balanced. What the ever loving fox Dichead?
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ReplyDeleteWhat tariffs cause, David, is the growth of domestic industries. They protect domestic industries. They create jobs, domestic jobs. Tens of millions of stable well-paid jobs. Capeesh?
The rest is bullshit. Don't get distracted.
Squeal louder, Mao.
DeleteThere are currently hundreds of thousands of unfilled jobs in manufacturing and you want to create more so that the US citizen can pay more for products. Your innumerate orange Jesus wants to tariff pharmaceuticals. Go ahead and explain why that is a good idea.
DeleteIt is a good idea because President Trump is doing it.
Delete"Go ahead and explain why that is a good idea."
DeleteNah. Let him squeal, like a two-year old that dropped his popsicle in the dirt, instead.
I am so old I remember when Dickhead in Cal was in awe of Elon the Musk and would write glowing tributes to Elon at least once a week.
Delete"Tens of millions of stable well-paid jobs."
DeleteThat's called getting high on your own supply.
What fcking deals on tariffs? The unhinged lunatic sharts a new tariff confab update up and TACO retreat on the daily. You a silly DiC.
DeleteIs Trump ever going to explain why his hands are half the size of those of a normal 6-year old girl?
ReplyDeleteTrump and the Republican Party are giving Texas voters exactly what they asked for.
ReplyDeleteMore bigotry.
This is an excellent point. The Washington Post at least ran the AP story, but there is no evidence the New York Times has touched it. Let's hope they're working on a deep dive into the event, which is certainly most newsworthy.
ReplyDeleteJust keep hoping.
DeleteSomerby quoted from the New York Times story. I read it this morning.
DeleteMAGAs have decided that if you come from outer space then you aren't an illegal alien, just an alien. So Superman cannot be an immigrant or an illegal immigrant. But I don't think he ever declared himself an American because his job was to protect the entire world.
ReplyDeleteAI says:
"However, it's worth noting that in a symbolic gesture in Action Comics #900 (2011), Superman renounced his American citizenship, stating he was "tired of having [his] actions construed as instruments of U.S. policy". DC Comics clarified that Superman remained committed to his adopted home but aimed to broaden his focus to a global perspective.
This event sparked discussion about Superman's identity and whether his association with America was essential to his character. While some believe it is an integral part of who he is, others argue that his role as a planetary protector transcends national boundaries.
Ultimately, the answer to whether Superman is American depends on perspective and interpretation. His upbringing and historical association with the United States are undeniable, but his identity has also evolved to encompass a more universal appeal. "
Where is David Richardson, the nominal head of FEMA? According to Heather Cox Richardson:
ReplyDelete"Meanwhile, FEMA’s acting director, David Richardson, has been nowhere to be found, making no public appearances, statements, or postings on social media since the disaster, and not visiting the site. Former FEMA officials told Thomas Frank of Politico that Richardson’s absence suggests Noem is controlling the FEMA response. Trump appointed Richardson after his team fired his first appointee, Cameron Hamilton, for telling Congress he did not think FEMA should be scrapped.
The day after he took office in May, Richardson, who has no experience with emergency management, told staff: “Don’t get in my way…because I will run right over you. I will achieve the president’s intent…. I, and I alone in FEMA, speak for FEMA,” he said.
Even as rescuers were still at work today in Texas, DHS cancelled a $3 million grant that had been awarded in New York to make sure the NWS can communicate effectively with local officials."
Did Kristi take him out to the gravel pit because he was challenging her for head of his own agency? Did he pull a Dan Bongino and take a few weeks off because Noem wouldn't let him run his own agency?
This is what incompetence and mismanagement look like. Unfortunately, people may have died because there was not an effective response to a predicted storm.
Arguably, Barack Obama won the presidency because of George W. Bush's major screw up of the Katrina hurricane response. Trump's team is worse. MAGA voters may be so angered by this tragedy in which girls in a religious summer camp weren't evacuated in time to prevent their drowning deaths, that even Hillary Clinton could be elected in Trump's wake. I'll bet even Biden could earn a second term at age 85 after the mess Trump has made of his presidency.
DeleteYes, Soros-bot, summer camp accident in Texas is definitely a federal case and president's responsibly.
DeleteHow come all, literally all of you Soros-bots are retarded? Not a single one with a single working brain cell among you. It's a miracle.
Idiot Mao has thoughts.
DeleteWhen you deliberately dismantle the warning and relief efforts related to natural disasters (in the name of saving money or displaying power) then it is absolutely the president's responsibility and his fault that Noem screwed things up (because she is obviously unqualified to that job).
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