tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post1364787880581982004..comments2024-03-29T06:44:19.414-04:00Comments on the daily howler: SEGREGATE THIS: A demographic message for Toto and Vox!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64582386748732182122018-01-20T14:44:03.950-05:002018-01-20T14:44:03.950-05:00I think the problem in '63 was schools that we...I think the problem in '63 was schools that were 100% white and schools 100% black, and the difference in money and resources provided.Desiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08770741483034651956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64426478417324129112018-01-19T04:49:50.243-05:002018-01-19T04:49:50.243-05:00It doesn't make much sense to include Hispanic...It doesn't make much sense to include Hispanics in a story about segregation since there were never laws forcing them to attend segregated schools, therefore, they should be included in the white group not the black group. Gloucon Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05218027862578514587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67760902870497259342018-01-18T20:58:22.119-05:002018-01-18T20:58:22.119-05:00“Is anyone more reliably faux than we are? We love...“Is anyone more reliably faux than we are? We love "the browning of America," hate the schools it gives us.”<br /><br />Not sure who the “we” is when it comes to the browning of America, I assume it’s Bob, but count me in.<br /><br />The demographic of this continent was entirely brown until Whitey either drove them almost to extinction, or drove them south so that we could have what manifest destiny determined what was rightfully ours. Yup, I’m a Whitey.<br /><br />Before the white man’s borders came into being, the entirety of North, Central and South America was brown. The phenotypic similarity between native “Americans” and their brethren north and south is rather striking. To me, the browning of America is a good thing, as Bob seems to imply. I see it from the point of historical justice. The pendulum between brown and white populations swings slowly, but anthropologically speaking, it’s natural. And boy, does Whitey hate that, much to my amusement.<br /><br />Too bad DeVos is in charge. The public schools will only get worse, no matter what the color of the students.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/gilscottheron/whiteyonthemoon.html" rel="nofollow">LINK</a><br /><br />h/t to Nathan J at Current Affairs<br /><br />Leroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60902141644702566162018-01-18T20:32:44.150-05:002018-01-18T20:32:44.150-05:00So the whites are sending their children to privat...So the whites are sending their children to private schools. They still have to pay the school district part of their property tax. I thought the problem with segregation was rich neighborhoods had more money so the schools were better. And now we find out it is not their money that is needed but the white children to surround the black child that helps the black child learn? In what world is this not horribly racist?jdmethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09412144350038186889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40004923671729516582018-01-18T13:39:11.304-05:002018-01-18T13:39:11.304-05:00Wha?Wha?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77277942378988633202018-01-18T13:21:59.614-05:002018-01-18T13:21:59.614-05:00Those demographic shifts would be referred to as a...Those demographic shifts would be referred to as a genocide if the whites in question were instead some remote Amazonian tribe. But, of course, the same tribe responsible for it also controls our media.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25824895782929131252018-01-18T12:47:17.082-05:002018-01-18T12:47:17.082-05:00You can have your own opinion. You cannot have you...You can have your own opinion. You cannot have your own facts. Journalism should only traffic in facts and not opinions.Dave the Guitar Playernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66077091566458114482018-01-18T12:44:57.893-05:002018-01-18T12:44:57.893-05:00Bob is not talking about you (necessarily). Chang ...Bob is not talking about you (necessarily). Chang is saying the reason that there are so few black students in schools with at least 50% white students is due to "resegregation", even though the facts say that white students make up less than 50% of public school students in the South. Bob is pointing out that Chang must either not know what he is talking about (doesn't know the facts), doesn't care what the facts are and is just repeating what he has heard or is deliberately trying to mislead his readers. All of these conditions are worth criticism. Since we hear so much about of this kind of "analysis" from the progressive/liberal media (which is what Bob is criticizing), there is apparently good reason to suggest that many (in the media) are likely self-serving elitists. So, unless you are in the media and are repeating these types of memes, Bob is not talking about you personally. I do hope that you are not distributing this type of bad analysis yourself. Dave the Guitar Playernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15681817016680344442018-01-18T12:27:31.609-05:002018-01-18T12:27:31.609-05:00"This isn't hard to grasp. But we progres..."This isn't hard to grasp. But we progressives love to put our thumbs on the scales when dealing with topics like this. This produce scary representations which establish the evil of Everyone Else and the great moral glory of Us."<br /><br />By "putting our thumbs on the scales", do you mean "having an opinion about the issue?"<br /><br />Is there a diversity of opinion amongst liberals about this and other issues? Not according to Somerby, who seems to view liberal thought as homogeneous, or "zombie-like", a term he has actually used. He of course picks out the examples he feels best illustrate this, a practice known as "putting one's thumb on the scales."<br /><br />And Somerby needs to quit saying "we progressives". There isn't much evidence he belongs in that group. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74770442408465361162018-01-18T11:55:00.371-05:002018-01-18T11:55:00.371-05:00Why do you suppose the percentage of white student...Why do you suppose the percentage of white students in Southern public schools is 44%, when, for example, in Alabama, whites make up 75% of the state's population?<br />It seems legitimate to ask if diversity in public schools is a good thing, and if they are now more or less diverse than before. It seems to me a legitimate inquiry to track the effects of the Brown decision. Southern schools were after all 100% segregated, and presumably that was a bad thing that stemmed from, oh I don't know, racism. <br />Whatever point Somerby tries to make is undermined by his snarky bullshit. And his point is always and only that progressives/liberals are hypocritical self-serving elitists. Whatever the topic, that is the narrative that Somerby promotes. He is incapable of making even a valid point without impugning the motives of a large group of people, including some of his own readers who are genuine in their search for the truth. But Somerby goes ahead and shits on them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44392080817111719342018-01-18T11:36:07.355-05:002018-01-18T11:36:07.355-05:00To what extent is the white attendance declining b...To what extent is the white attendance declining because white students are going to private schools? That needs to be discussed or it undermines Somerby’s argument that this is all the result of shifting demographics and not racism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com