tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post1919595260610002520..comments2024-03-29T03:35:00.114-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Chris Hayes says he is seething with anger!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24614948806609170892013-07-02T13:54:19.954-04:002013-07-02T13:54:19.954-04:00A bedrock requirement for an effective TV anchor -...A bedrock requirement for an effective TV anchor - for an effective speaker in any line of work - is clarity. Much of what Hayes says is lost to a rapidity of speech that renders words, thoughts, descriptions, etc. incomprehensible. Apart from that, Hayes is not a fluent reader of the prompter; he stumbles over words to the extent that you wonder if networks still hold auditions for voice talent. His delivery resembles that of the Valley Girl with sentences ending on a rising tone as if they were questions or evidence of uncertainty. The delivery of cable presenters with but few exceptions is bizarre, scarcely resembling the speech of ordinary persons, and resembling that of highly-paid narrators and voice-over artists not at all. And, as noted above, his arm-waving, worse even than Maddow's, seems a consequence of a serious ailment, perhaps ataxia.AVANCEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06782426715457773543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25828806929597504162013-06-24T12:31:10.256-04:002013-06-24T12:31:10.256-04:00"...but my impression is the same as Bob'..."...but my impression is the same as Bob's."<br /><br />What a shock!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35306893089767721262013-06-23T22:43:29.474-04:002013-06-23T22:43:29.474-04:00If you think Dave's posts are bad, just imagin...If you think Dave's posts are bad, just imagine how his wife feels when he lets out a belch after a particularly gluttonous session at the dinner table. <br /><br />"David, I've asked you and asked you not to burp at the table. And at least cover your mouth, the brown spots on your teeth are even worse than the smell. And don't even think of using my toothbrush 'by mistake' again, go buy your own."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64331696140482911222013-06-23T19:14:54.835-04:002013-06-23T19:14:54.835-04:00"shit eating troll"
Potty-mouth."shit eating troll"<br /><br />Potty-mouth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68624392147256403672013-06-23T12:43:37.292-04:002013-06-23T12:43:37.292-04:00"Kaus' constant criticisms of traditional..."Kaus' constant criticisms of traditional liberalism..."<br /><br />"His views, and willingness to attack the Democratic Party, have also made him popular with conservative writers."<br /><br />This hardly makes it honest to cite Kaus as a "liberal pundit" when trying to play the "even the liberal" game, does it? But as a disgusting, shit eating troll, all you care about is trolling, not honesty. Hope you enjoy your plate of shit today. Have a second helping, in fact. You've earned it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5073417224365671562013-06-23T11:40:25.525-04:002013-06-23T11:40:25.525-04:00Is Hayes still talking with his hands **a lot**? ...Is Hayes still talking with his hands **a lot**? He does have new hair...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8885670948459919692013-06-23T10:35:54.633-04:002013-06-23T10:35:54.633-04:00I've only watched Hayes sporadically in his ne...I've only watched Hayes sporadically in his new show, but my impression is the same as Bob's. He used to have a smart 2 hour show where knowledgeable people you didn't always see on other cable shows got to have extended conversations on serious issues. He made mistakes, but it was much, much better than anything else on cable news, at least from what I've seen. <br /><br />The new show is, as Bob says, where Hayes has become shallow and superficial like Maddow. A real disappointment, though not unexpected. Maybe the network doesn't think there's an audience for intelligent discussion on weekday evenings. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80444512439588662972013-06-23T03:40:01.925-04:002013-06-23T03:40:01.925-04:00The quote below is from Wikipedia. Note that Kaus ...The quote below is from Wikipedia. Note that Kaus tends to support liberal ends and usually supports Democratic politicians. Those two points makes him a liberal rather than a conservative.<br /><br /><i>Kaus has identified himself as neoliberal.[citation needed] He tends to support liberal ends, including social equality (the topic of The End of Equality) and universal health care, but frequently attacks traditional liberal means of reaching those ends. Most notably, he was an influential proponent of welfare reform in the 1980s, and is a fierce critic of both labor unions (particularly automotive workers' unions and teachers' unions) and immigration reform (he supports the new Arizona anti-illegal-immigration law, calling to wait to see the law's practical effects before overturning it).[19][20]<br /><br />Kaus' constant criticisms of traditional liberalism have prompted some liberals[21] (including his Bloggingheads sparring partner Robert Wright) to see him as a right-winger. He has been criticized for his persistent defense of his friend Ann Coulter from many liberal critics[22][23][24][25]<br /><br />His views, and willingness to attack the Democratic Party, have also made him popular with conservative writers.[26][27]<br /><br />Kaus usually supports Democratic politicians. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Kaus endorsed Hillary Clinton for president, while criticizing other Democrats including Barack Obama. In the 2006 U.S. Midterm Elections Kaus wrote that he hoped the Democrats would fail to take over the U.S. House of Representatives but take the Senate. He called the election "perverse" because he saw a Democratic victory as not impeding George W. Bush's Iraq policy but helping his immigration policy. Nevertheless, Kaus declared he still voted for Democrat Jane Harman.</i><br />David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8832675092452616902013-06-22T21:02:55.379-04:002013-06-22T21:02:55.379-04:00"Liberal pundit Mickey Kaus" ...HAHAHAH..."Liberal pundit Mickey Kaus" ...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Go fuck yourself troll. Carlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88423581380043412812013-06-22T17:42:13.967-04:002013-06-22T17:42:13.967-04:00As I've been telling you for years Bob, these ...As I've been telling you for years Bob, these people do what they do because that's what their audience wants. You said it yourself: Hayes got miserable ratings trying to play it straight. He can either get chased off the air being "smart," or he can get down in the slop and oink like the rest of the pigs. He chose to oink in the shitty, but nourishing, muck, as pretty much anyone would. The ability of these people to set the rules is quite limited, and the boundaries aren't set by "the suits," as you call them, but the people who demand to be "shocked" and "infuriated" and made to "seethe with anger." We're dragging ourselves down, we aren't being drug down -- certainly not by the likes of Hayes and Maddow.tilhttp://til.tknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21442960753631562762013-06-22T16:14:35.378-04:002013-06-22T16:14:35.378-04:00The suits are also ruining what was left of CNN. I...The suits are also ruining what was left of CNN. I saw it the other day for the first time in months, and it looks just like Headline News. The same people as well!<br /><br />Guess there's always Al Jazerra. Or Amy Goodman might have to shoulder the TV burden for a while.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23492631012914613602013-06-22T11:10:35.777-04:002013-06-22T11:10:35.777-04:00Do the Tyson Chickens and other Fortune 1000 compa...Do the Tyson Chickens and other Fortune 1000 companies which depend on illegal immigration for cheap labor know Limbaugh is double-crossing them? <br />Fortune 1000 vs the head of the Republican Party. Make it a death match and butter the popcorn. Now THAT'S entertainment!<br /><br />BertoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87685540097676039822013-06-22T10:48:44.718-04:002013-06-22T10:48:44.718-04:00Hayes's position is remarkable. Supporters of...Hayes's position is remarkable. Supporters of the bill generally argue that it contains effective enforcement provisions that will substantially prevent illegal immigration going forward. Opponents generally argue that that the provisions of the bill are inadequate to effectively deter future illegal immigration. Some opponents, such a Rush Limbaugh, assert that <a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/06/21/we_know_washington_doesn_t_want_to_stop_illegal_immigration_and_that_s_why_we_don_t_trust_washington" rel="nofollow">Washington Doesn't Want to Stop Illegal Immigration.</a><br /> <br />Hayes's overt opposition to increased spending on border security tends to validate Limbaugh's position. <br /><br />P.S. Liberal pundit Mickey Kaus agrees with Limbaugh on this issue. I do too. There are steps that would substantially prevent illegal immigrants from being hire, receiving government benefits or attending college, etc. These steps are not being considered.<br />David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15505406795235972342013-06-21T17:09:35.728-04:002013-06-21T17:09:35.728-04:00The poor boy is a Rachel puppet now. BTY, a big pa...The poor boy is a Rachel puppet now. BTY, a big part of that outflow is due to O's deportation policy. You know, the nameless Juan y Rosalita; Jesus y Maria.DipsoFactonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35267805473948297762013-06-21T16:33:49.382-04:002013-06-21T16:33:49.382-04:00The suits are ruining Up with Steve Kornaki, too. ...The suits are ruining Up with Steve Kornaki, too. <br /><br />So disappointing! Very DC CW.<br /><br />Like MSNBC's Phil Griffen said to Cenk U:. "We're the establishment!"<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com