tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post2286501941325541304..comments2024-03-29T06:44:19.414-04:00Comments on the daily howler: WHERE DID PRIVILEGE COME FROM: Revolutionary cadres!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17796183386216314582014-05-21T00:02:29.284-04:002014-05-21T00:02:29.284-04:00How To Stop A Divorce And Save Your Marriage?(Dr B...<br />How To Stop A Divorce And Save Your Marriage?(Dr Brave).<br /><br /><br />Hello to every one out here, am here to share the unexpected miracle that happened to me three days ago, My name is Jeffrey Dowling,i live in TEXAS,USA.and I`m happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she did not love me anymore So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.(bravespellcaster@gmail.com}, So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day what an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who did not call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster . So, i will advice you out there to kindly email this wonderful man {bravespellcaster@gmail.com},i f you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to "bringing your ex back. So thanks to Dr Brave for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family once again.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com}, Thanks..<br />Natasha Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03946156926137605181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7869431741890286842014-05-21T00:01:40.818-04:002014-05-21T00:01:40.818-04:00How To Stop A Divorce And Save Your Marriage?(Dr B...<br />How To Stop A Divorce And Save Your Marriage?(Dr Brave).<br /><br /><br />Hello to every one out here, am here to share the unexpected miracle that happened to me three days ago, My name is Jeffrey Dowling,i live in TEXAS,USA.and I`m happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she did not love me anymore So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.(bravespellcaster@gmail.com}, So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day what an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who did not call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster . So, i will advice you out there to kindly email this wonderful man {bravespellcaster@gmail.com},i f you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to "bringing your ex back. So thanks to Dr Brave for bringing back my wife,and brought great joy to my family once again.{bravespellcaster@gmail.com}, Thanks..<br />Natasha Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03946156926137605181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47669274387027738462014-05-16T14:05:21.834-04:002014-05-16T14:05:21.834-04:00Anonymous @5:33A,
Either TDH posted his "Gov...Anonymous @5:33A,<br /><br />Either TDH posted his "Gov. Ultrasound" entry after the announcement of the indictment or before. In the former case, he told a deliberate falsehood; in the latter, he prematurely declared a rhetorical victory.<br /><br />Either I posted "a guess with no evidence" about the time of the entry's posting or I looked up the timestamp, which by the way, indicates which timezone it refers to so it's easy to compare the posting time with the announcement time. In the former case, I'm the clueless one; in the latter, it's the confederacy of trollery on this blog.<br /><br />In both cases, the latter obtains. Are these consequential matters? I'd say no, but this is a blog, and as the trollery is fond of pointing out, a particularly inconsequential one. But I find it passing strange that nevertheless you're the self-proclaimed defender of accuracy but only when it comes to bashing TDH.<br /><br />(And what's with the "savvy" crack? Are you saying I'm making it up or are you excusing yourself from getting the time wrong because it was just too difficult to figure out? I had to look up the Penelope Garcia reference. Apparently, that's the name of a character on a TV show about a fictional team of FBI behavioral "profilers." How embarrassing for you.) <br /><br />But, yeah, it was an embarrassing misstep. I don't understand why this looms so large for you. So what? Why is it "convenient" that McDonnell has disappeared from the blog? He's pretty much disappeared from the news except for his appointment to a position at Liberty University. (Is that even news?)<br /><br />TDH's larger point is that journalists are too consumed with scandal, including one so venial that it didn't even violate state law. And he doesn't think it's a good idea to gloat about your political opponents possibly going to prison. I disagree. I think the McDonnells of this political world ought to be hung around the neck of the Republican Party. Not because I think that Democrats are necessarily more honest, but because McDonnel's behavior and worse is the inevitable result of electing people who don't really believe in governing. If McDonnell goes to prison, then that's an example of bad things happening to bad people, which restores the karmic balance in the universe. I guess believing that makes me a less evolved person than TDH.<br /><br />And, sorry, but I don't think a stickler for accuracy like yourself should be claiming that TDH thinks that the Christie traffic jam was the result of a legitimate traffic study. TDH has consistently said that closing the lanes was idiotic and that any claims of a study could be a ruse or a hoax.<br /><br />KZ's broadcasting from the Galaxy Schizophrenia notwithstanding, TDH doesn't get legions of things wrong. When he does get something factually wrong, I'd like to see a correction, but it isn't my blog. I think that his emphasis on Maddow is misplaced and a tad overdetermined, shall we say? That contrary to his claims, Donald Sterling and Cliven Bundy are not one like the other. That he's missing a bigger point when he carries on about the size of the wage gap.<br /><br />But so what? TDH's opinions and mine don't always match. Evidently yours and his don't either. I don't read this blog because I have to agree with the blogger. Why do you? deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32555660337768609042014-05-16T13:14:45.129-04:002014-05-16T13:14:45.129-04:00I thought Carter lost because he invented the Pean...I thought Carter lost because he invented the Peanut Butter and Malaise Sandwich.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24248767760989506842014-05-16T09:48:01.254-04:002014-05-16T09:48:01.254-04:00Who did Bernadine Dohrn or her husband, Bill Ayers...Who did Bernadine Dohrn or her husband, Bill Ayers, get killed? They came out of hiding in 1980. That propelled Reagan into office? Never mind we were in the midst of the hostage crisis, inflation, rising gas prices, and an economy that was tanking. <br /><br />None of that had anything to do with Reagan's election. Nope, it was Jimmy Carter "palling around" with terrorists.<br /><br />Yep, the sins of the most radical extremes of the left must always be visited upon the Democratic Party. Sarah Palin would we proud of you, Somerby.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41702879310900993212014-05-16T05:33:39.903-04:002014-05-16T05:33:39.903-04:00Deadrat, you can nitpick all you want about whethe...Deadrat, you can nitpick all you want about whether Somerby posted before or after the charges were filed, while refusing to consider in what time zone that precious stamp that only you and Penelope Garcia have the savvy to find.<br /><br />The fact remains that Somerby made a complete ass out of himself by posting "Gov. Ultrasound still hasn't been charged" on the very morning that a 14-count indictment came down.<br /><br />You might have noticed that Bob handled that humongous embarrassment the same way he handles most of legion of things when he has been proven wrong.<br /><br />To wit: Gov. Ultrasound has been conveniently disappeared from these parts.<br /><br />Kinda like that "legitimate traffic study" he howled about for months that had never been "disproven, on a journalistic basis."<br /><br />Somerby MO: When you do a face plant, simply ignore it and move on to something else. Like racism. His sheep will conveniently forget how dumb you were, as they low on the new batch of sweet hay.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63521645625514711372014-05-15T21:33:55.075-04:002014-05-15T21:33:55.075-04:00Anonymous @7:44P,
You think my comments are alway...Anonymous @7:44P,<br /><br />You think my comments are always about me? Be fair, that's a fascinating topic, but your claim would still hurt my feelings, if I had any.<br /><br />I did tell a fascinating story from my biography in a comment to the blog entry "WHERE DID PRIVILEGE COME FROM: Stifling Fisher!" I guess you didn't find that anecdote on topic.<br /><br />In threads past, I've discussed (with DAinCA) the federal courts' approach to legal time limits in federal law, the ins and outs of Florida homicide law and criminal procedure (with various nutters), and the rules for 503(c) organizations.<br /><br />I don't think any of those topics is about me or that they're best ignored, but tell me how I can do better. Because, as you can imagine, I live for your approval.<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66921598008447552842014-05-15T21:14:33.065-04:002014-05-15T21:14:33.065-04:00Deadrat, do you really think it is a useless exerc...<i>Deadrat, do you really think it is a useless exercise to try to figure out what helps some people succeed in adversity so that others can benefit from their experience?</i><br /><br />No. Do you think that's what DAinCA was doing?<br /><br /><i>Your glib "problem solved" implies that David is foolish to point out that the experiences of people in different stigmatized subgroups vary.</i><br /><br />Sorry, I didn't mean merely to imply that DAinCA is ignorant, a term I prefer to foolishness. I'm usually more explicit than that.<br /><br /><i>Do you think David was saying "problem solved"?</i><br /><br />No. He's just telling us what the solutions have to look like.<br /><br /><i>Why not engage that question?</i><br /><br />With DAinCA? Have you read many of his comments?deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1921718345403693022014-05-15T21:14:25.971-04:002014-05-15T21:14:25.971-04:00Pardon me. That response above was to AnonymousMa...Pardon me. That response above was to AnonymousMay 15, 2014 at 7:44 PMDavid in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5751739364586049622014-05-15T21:10:46.546-04:002014-05-15T21:10:46.546-04:00Thanks for your advice, Luke. In fact, I am readin...Thanks for your advice, Luke. In fact, I am reading one such book now, <i>The Triple Package</i>. <br /><br />I completely agree with you that the tragic background of African Americans in this country is the cause of the problem. I'm trying to look forward, to how to make improvements. The focus on "privilege" based on race seems to me to be a dead end. I think it offers blacks an excuse and it causes racial animosity.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68580029061714214932014-05-15T19:44:28.018-04:002014-05-15T19:44:28.018-04:00deadrat's comments are always about himself, b...deadrat's comments are always about himself, best to ignore them. David in Cal is unyieldingly dogmatic, a hopeless case.<br /><br />No other group in this country has had the tragic background of African Americans, and most of the groups David mentioned come from rich and sophisticated cultures. If David is curious why some people do better than others, he can read some Jared Diamond books. He would be better off getting more comfortable with the ideas people smarter than he is have come up with to help those who are struggling.<br /><br />Luke 1:51-53, etcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5318955236613105452014-05-15T19:06:24.046-04:002014-05-15T19:06:24.046-04:00Tackling Asian Privilege
http://takimag.com/artic...Tackling Asian Privilege<br /><br />http://takimag.com/article/tackling_asian_privilege_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz31dagpLYBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71638680941887143812014-05-15T18:59:31.277-04:002014-05-15T18:59:31.277-04:00Deadrat, do you really think it is a useless exerc...Deadrat, do you really think it is a useless exercise to try to figure out what helps some people succeed in adversity so that others can benefit from their experience?<br /><br />Your glib "problem solved" implies that David is foolish to point out that the experiences of people in different stigmatized subgroups vary.<br /><br />Somerby poiints that out himself as he describes the different verbal abilities of his 7 year old friend and Dent, both of whom are presumably African American. Do you think David was saying "problem solved"? I think he was asking why some groups do well while others do not, despite having similar circumstances of race and poverty. <br /><br />Why not engage that question?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79969910947303194172014-05-15T18:51:54.203-04:002014-05-15T18:51:54.203-04:00Don't expect Somerby to reply.Don't expect Somerby to reply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63814491429512819822014-05-15T18:35:47.403-04:002014-05-15T18:35:47.403-04:00Remember when gays and Mormons first came to this ...Remember when gays and Mormons first came to this country?<br /><br />Me neither.<br /><br />But they all faced considerable discrimination. And some of them excelled! Problem solved.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1696732721179989352014-05-15T18:31:28.406-04:002014-05-15T18:31:28.406-04:00Oh, dear. You evidently have confused me with ano...Oh, dear. You evidently have confused me with another deadrat. The guessers were people who claimed that TDH posted after the announcement. I was the one who examined the source of the blog entry, and found the timestamp from the software that generates blogspot blogs. It predated the announcement.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59992027528050256152014-05-15T18:14:29.782-04:002014-05-15T18:14:29.782-04:002:33 PM -- thanks for the link. That article seem...2:33 PM -- thanks for the link. That article seems wrong-headed. There are many subgroups who perform exceedingly well, even though they're not Main Street whites: E.g., Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Pakistanis, Kenyan immigrants, Cuban immigrants, Mormons, Jews, gays. Almost all of these groups were extremely poor when they first came to this country. All suffered considerable discrimination. All are in a society where most people they see are different from them. Yet, they have excelled.<br /><br />The point is, so-called "white privilege" explains very little about why some people succeed more than others. Focusing on skin color like this is a disservice to blacks and to whites IMHO, not mention Asians, who seem to be ignored or overlooked.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86731181438168578192014-05-15T18:10:51.992-04:002014-05-15T18:10:51.992-04:00He's not an idiot, he's just an insidious ...He's not an idiot, he's just an insidious troll. <br /><br />How is a troll different than a critic? A critic observes a basic respect for the discourse in question and lodges substantive objections that can in turn be criticized. A troll isn't strong enough to do this and so the troll engages in muddying the water, obfuscation, misdirection, cutsie private language, ad hominem attacks--lather, rinse, repeat.<br /><br />David in Cal is a critic. KZ is a troll.cacambonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38346666871869542312014-05-15T17:36:35.511-04:002014-05-15T17:36:35.511-04:00Well. That certainly won't stifle me. Try la...Well. That certainly won't stifle me. Try laying some privelege guilt on me. That always works. According to BOB.<br /><br />KZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58140590017225554022014-05-15T17:35:07.740-04:002014-05-15T17:35:07.740-04:00For the record, deadrat, commenters on the day Gov...For the record, deadrat, commenters on the day Governor Ultrasound was charged presented some evidence that BOB posted after the indictment was announced. You posted a guess with no evidence that BOB's headline preceded the announcement. Regardless, once the indictment was announced BOB had a day to post an update, correct the headline, or pull the post. He did nothing. <br /><br />Lowest chain on the lowest tank in the whole damn water closet. <br /><br />But the tank fills fast!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51973043146209723932014-05-15T16:39:18.986-04:002014-05-15T16:39:18.986-04:00And you may return to your fainting couch.And you may return to your fainting couch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32917578077603297262014-05-15T16:11:39.568-04:002014-05-15T16:11:39.568-04:00Allow me to note one of the typical troll practice...Allow me to note one of the typical troll practices:<br /><br />Step 1: Say something stupid and erroneous to put what TDH writes (or TDH himself) in a bad light.<br /><br />Step 2: End by saying something like "How long will I have to wait for a Bobfan to come to Bob's defense?"<br /><br />Step 3: Wait until somebody points out that what you've written is stupid and erroneous.<br /><br />Step 4: Don't defend your stupid and erroneous comment, but write, "Bobfan! Bobfan!"<br /><br />Here's another:<br /><br />Step 1: Say something stupid and erroneous to put what TDH writes (0r TDH himself) in a bad light.<br /><br />Step 2: Wait until somebody points out that what you've written is stupid and erroneous.<br /><br />Step 3: Post a comment with a rhetorical eye-roll about commenters who tell you what TDH <i>really</i> means.<br /><br />Of course, you have to pretend that TDH isn't usually poundingly, repetitively clear about his main themes. Or that when he isn't, a discussion of interpretations isn't exactly what a blogger's commentarial is supposed to provide.<br /><br />You may now return to your usual trollery.<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60189826154828337422014-05-15T15:06:31.336-04:002014-05-15T15:06:31.336-04:00From the article misrepresented by 1:37
"And...From the article misrepresented by 1:37<br /><br />"And listen, recognizing Privilege doesn't mean suffering guilt or shame for your lot in life. Nobody's saying that Straight White Middle Class Able-Bodied Males are all a bunch of assholes who don't work hard for what they have. Recognizing Privilege simply means being aware that some people have to work much harder just to experience the things you take for granted (if they ever can experience them at all.)<br /><br />I know now that I AM Privileged in many ways"<br /><br />Gina Crosley-CorcoranAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14526832147726468212014-05-15T14:33:26.078-04:002014-05-15T14:33:26.078-04:00The "recent article" you mention.
http:...The "recent article" you mention.<br /><br />http://thefeministbreeder.com/explaining-white-privilege-broke-white-person/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90493373821007376932014-05-15T14:23:42.683-04:002014-05-15T14:23:42.683-04:00I don't know if I don't understand you, or...I don't know if I don't understand you, or your history is all messed up.<br /><br />You wrote:<br />"Speaking like a member of a northern branch of The Shining Path, the highly suggestible Dohrn self-criticized to beat the band. After that, she turned to the bombs, getting several people killed and sending Reagan to power."<br /><br />That self-criticism you cite appears to have come *after* she split with the Weather Underground. Are you confusing the May 19 Coalition with the Prairie Fire Collective? What bombs are you talking about that came *after* her self-criticism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com