tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post2460025469743828574..comments2024-03-29T05:30:01.292-04:00Comments on the daily howler: DUBLINERS TOO: What the lawyers said and did!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5678588403945382982020-11-05T22:57:05.725-05:002020-11-05T22:57:05.725-05:00divorcio en virginia fairfax attorney<a href="https://srislawyer.com/cuanto-tiempo-demora-la-finalizacion-del-divorcio-en-virginia-fairfax-attorney/" rel="nofollow">divorcio en virginia fairfax attorney</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03534508706015771897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9442049376742001172020-10-29T07:55:21.361-04:002020-10-29T07:55:21.361-04:00child custody va attorney<a href="https://srislawyer.com/divorce-in-virginia-with-child-lawyer-child-custody-va-attorney/" rel="nofollow">child custody va attorney</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07107786604718317986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78226451006195584792013-08-02T16:45:24.590-04:002013-08-02T16:45:24.590-04:00Point taken, CMike, point taken.Point taken, CMike, point taken.stuart_zechmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14817215761981204304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36272210273807822382013-08-02T02:37:59.007-04:002013-08-02T02:37:59.007-04:00No, Davbid in Cal. I read the article correctly. ...No, Davbid in Cal. I read the article correctly. The indident began with the police officer allegedly cutting off the other driver, forcing that driver to avoid a collision by swerving to the shoulder. He then followed the officer in a rage, almost colliding with him and forcing the officer, his wife, and children off the road, according to the officer. The white guy's car was way in front. He got out and doubled back to the officers car. In fear of his life and for his family, the officer identified himself as a policeman then blasted the creepy cracker to a place where he met his maker. It was God's will.<br /><br />What???? You're not taking the side of the guy with the gun this time? You're saying a thug following your family, forcing them off the road, stopping and doubling back is not life threatening? You're saying you don't believe this officer this time like you did Detective Serino? Could it be because the guy with the bullet in him is.....<br /><br />rick Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49911529406308292192013-08-01T20:19:48.073-04:002013-08-01T20:19:48.073-04:00If you think Somerby is doing this to "get th...If you think Somerby is doing this to "get through" to the media, I have some really special swampland in Florida you might be interested in buying.Don Aragonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78639385610438115462013-08-01T17:24:41.768-04:002013-08-01T17:24:41.768-04:00How very charming!How very charming!sarcastic complainernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87944457825287971412013-08-01T16:07:01.228-04:002013-08-01T16:07:01.228-04:00Here!Here!race-hustlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13190072718385906302013-08-01T16:06:05.129-04:002013-08-01T16:06:05.129-04:00YO!YO!media-apologistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81389432481323487972013-08-01T16:04:33.031-04:002013-08-01T16:04:33.031-04:00Yo!Yo!point-missernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23207489208456607732013-08-01T16:03:27.297-04:002013-08-01T16:03:27.297-04:00I am a social engineer on the society train. WHOOT...I am a social engineer on the society train. WHOOT-WHOOT!sockpuppetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20130209224552808292013-08-01T10:40:41.379-04:002013-08-01T10:40:41.379-04:00Feel the same about the leaders who took us into V...Feel the same about the leaders who took us into Vietnam and killed 58,000+ Americans and between 2 and 3 million Vietnamese. In my own lifetime and they would say it was for a great cause, too. <br /><br />The people who want to sacrifice Zimmerman aren't just willfully ignorant of the facts. They know the facts - the ones on TV or in the news media elsewhere know the facts. They think its "worth it" for some cause. - KarenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53787939326089529542013-08-01T10:12:28.202-04:002013-08-01T10:12:28.202-04:00rick -- Please re-read the report. You got the rac...rick -- Please re-read the report. You got the races backwards. The incident began when Walker "the black guy" cut in front of Harvey "the white guy" and forced him onto the shoulder. David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17267870646125232022013-08-01T09:08:20.331-04:002013-08-01T09:08:20.331-04:00Well, since you bring up Lincoln, I am not a fan o...Well, since you bring up Lincoln, I am not a fan of Lincoln either. IOW, I'm not buying that slavery would be going on today in the Southern States if the Civil War hadn't happened. 600,000 dead out of a population of a little over 30,000,000 would be the equivalent of 6 million dead today. Does the 600,000 count those who eventually died from their wounds in an age before antibiotics? To accept it is to believe in violence but mainstream thinking goes beyond that and glorifies the horror, IMO, in the usual effort to demonize rational thinking and control people. <br /><br />Just my opinion but if I don't live and think by the value of the individual, individual rights and not sacrificing innocent people to a "cause" because leaders are great men/women (who love to wartime leaders; several have said that in my memory, I believe both Bushes said things like that and Clinton had a yearning, too) --- well, no. I like the concept of a "common good" but its non-violent. <br /><br />I also see no reason to believe we (here in US) would have been taken over by fascists if not for Winston Churchill. I think thats extreme thinking. The Soviet Union was a gigantic slave empire and it didn't conquer the US and its gone, been gone 20+ years now. Gee, gassing the Iraqis after WWI is "cherry picking" and firebombing Dresden civilians is "cherry picking," what is a war crime? Those were millions of innocent civilians killed deliberately, not "collateral damage."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30956656020133676312013-08-01T03:18:41.213-04:002013-08-01T03:18:41.213-04:00Good find David in Cal. Perfect fit for a Trayvon-...Good find David in Cal. Perfect fit for a Trayvon-Zimmerman thread. <br /><br />Let's see. The black guy was the shooter. He was an off duty cop in a car with his family chased and allegedly run off the road by the white victim who was suffering from road rage.<br /><br />What does this tell us about American justice? In this case, police immediately charged the shooter with the same offenses it took a national outcry, several weeks, and a special prosecutor to bring against the White Hispanic Zimmerman. The black defendant was held in jail for several days. Obviously his<br />wife did not bring him fresh clothes and take him home to his bed that night so he could get sleep before taking the police investigators on a walk through after he got off work the next day. <br /><br />I look forward to your following this case. Let us know when you find out what the victim bought at the convenience store and what the results of the lab tests of the victim and his passenger's blood show.<br /><br />Meanwhile I will file it as another case where people who had no business getting out of their cars with guns prove that nothing good comes of such acts.<br /><br />rickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9606096652647112252013-08-01T02:50:59.975-04:002013-08-01T02:50:59.975-04:00Poo Poo Platter (We Changed the Headline)
So the ...Poo Poo Platter (We Changed the Headline)<br /><br />So the big pile of poo on this posting's platter is the dire consequences of lawyer lies. Let's list them. No, let's let Bob do that for us (note that I have added numbers to his words for later reference): <br /><br />"In this case, the lawyers did those things... their conduct was extremely bad, and it has had wide-ranging consequences:<br /><br />1)Terrified parents have terrorized children about the ways they might be killed, <strong>just for buying some candy.</strong> 2) The jurors are forced to hide from the public, ....3)Reports have appeared of beatings offered in retribution for the Zimmerman verdict. If someone ends up getting killed—and obviously, that could happen—"<br /><br />1) Bob has heaped up three examples of parents talking of their reactions to this case with their children. In none of them would I say "terrified' was the proper adjective to use by anyone other than a crank more hysterical than any parent he describes. In none of them are children described as terrified to buy candy, though some are upset about the prospect of being viewed as suspects for "walking about." Of course Bob further describes one goofy mother's tale as sadism.<br /><br />2) Where's Waldo? Where are the reports of hiding jurors? I can't link to any. I can link to three TV appearances and a public letter. They have, as is their right, remainined anonymous. Zimmerman is in hiding, but there have been sightings of him at a faster pace than Elvis after he left the big building.<br /><br />3) Reports, Bob? Plural? Were there two, three, or four? Only one? And you do know that one report from one witness was like the witnesses who heard "two gunshots in Sanford" or heard "the boy on the bottom" scream." It was discounted as wrong by police based on what other witnesses and the victim said they heard. <br /><br />Bob, we think your work is best described in the words you use to describe the work of Ms. Alvarez. Sensible. Fair. But at times heinous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7920303021658520292013-08-01T00:31:00.867-04:002013-08-01T00:31:00.867-04:00Another interracial homicide with a self-defense p...Another interracial homicide with a self-defense plea. In this case, the shooter is black and the victim is white.<br /><br />http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/new-jersey-police-officer-indicted-with-first-degree-murder-in/article_7c6441b3-0cdd-5b05-a91b-1fc440340fb2.html<br /><br />I'm thinking that shooting the victim 3 times will make it difficult for a self-defense plea to work.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53430910252818878112013-07-31T23:51:59.475-04:002013-07-31T23:51:59.475-04:00Poo Poo Platter (We Changed the Headline)
Well I ...Poo Poo Platter (We Changed the Headline)<br /><br />Well I hate to break in late on the Lusitania, but I will never forget the Maine. <br /><br />1) "That same day, the New York Times got very excited and passed the story on to its readers, with its reporter, Lizette Alvarez, directly saying that she had heard two shots." <br /><br />Bob Somerby. This post. July 31, 2013<br /><br />2) "According to Alvarez’s report, she herself hadn’t actually heard the 911 tapes which the police had played “for the family.” On what basis did Alvarez say that two shots are “heard” on those tapes?" <br /><br />Bob Somerby July 23, 2013<br /><br />3) "Had Alvarez actually heard the 911 tapes at the time this report was written? As of yesterday, we still assumed that she had not. As of today, we aren’t sure."<br /><br />Bob Somerby July 24, 2013<br /><br />4) "In our view Alvarez'z reporting has been sensible and fair."<br /><br />Bob Somerby July 1, 2013<br /><br /><br />We know Alvarez said she hadn't heard the tapes (2). Even though we said she said she said she hadn't heard the tapes we are confused whther she did or not (3) perhaps because we know she said she heard two shots (1). To be sensible and fair she must have been an earwitness to the shooting herself! (4)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79273891697541252222013-07-31T23:24:13.938-04:002013-07-31T23:24:13.938-04:00I'm unimpressed with the Churchill bashers. I...I'm unimpressed with the Churchill bashers. It's easy to criticize particular actions. But, Churchill, more than any other individual, saved much of the world from being run by fascists.<br /><br />Cherry-picking the bad things a leader did is no way to judge someone, especially in wartime. War is Hell. What would you think of an American President if all you knew was that he's responsible for over 600,000 American deaths, that he ignored the Constitution and imprisoned reporters for criticizing his policies? <br /><br />Yes, I'm talking about Abraham Lincoln.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60900102816954932212013-07-31T22:03:27.859-04:002013-07-31T22:03:27.859-04:00Put munitiions in Lusitania so Germans would bomb ...Put munitiions in Lusitania so Germans would bomb it (hoping to get US into WWII); let Britain be bombed in WWII to get the US into that war; poison gas in Iraq after WWI; firebombing Dresden -- massive killing of civilians, deliberate war crimes.<br /><br />My brother is the history reader. He's a retired dairy farmer and doesn't use the internet.<br /><br />For me, I become more and more skeptical of everything from establishment/mainstream sources, especially about "greatness." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90274438344638710492013-07-31T20:43:20.356-04:002013-07-31T20:43:20.356-04:00Years ago I read a fascinating book, Churchill'...Years ago I read a fascinating book, <i>Churchill's Black Dog, Kafka's Mice, and Other Phenomena of the Human Mind</i> by psychiatrist Anthony Storr. The first chapter was about Churchill. The author believed that Churchill suffered from clinical depression. His depressive episodes were called "black dogs." Dr. Storr believed that Churchill's amazing energy and accomplishments were his way of holding depression at bay. Storr said that when Churchill retired and had no more challenges, he fell apart.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71677090282459201402013-07-31T20:01:14.833-04:002013-07-31T20:01:14.833-04:00Bad person is pretty strong, but it is well-docume...Bad person is pretty strong, but it is well-documented that he was pretty much an arrogant bully, probably Asperger's. He was often brilliant and a great writer and may well have saved us from Hitler, but he was also a total pain in the ass to everyone around him, and his generals, including even Eisenhower, had to waste a hell of a lot of time trying to head off his often dangerously half-baked ideas. <br /><br />I get that from this book, which is all in all respectful of Churchill. <br />Warlord: A Life of Winston Churchill at War, 1874-1945 <br /><br />by Carlo D'EsteM Carpenternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31767492579001750272013-07-31T17:03:40.904-04:002013-07-31T17:03:40.904-04:00Karen -- I wonder what history books your brother...Karen -- I wonder what history books your brother reads. Many of us consider Winston Churchill to be the greatest figure of the 20th century. E.g., see http://www.yourvalleyvoice.com/news/article_85d01560-9ce7-11e0-b8fb-001cc4c002e0.html or http://blog.londonconnection.com/2010/12/01/winston-churchill-the-greatest-man-of-the-20th-century/<br /><br />Maybe your brother's history books were written by partisans who believes that conservatives are automatically bad people. David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65594054542464458522013-07-31T16:33:02.490-04:002013-07-31T16:33:02.490-04:00CMike,
Theodore Roosevelt is another historical fi...CMike,<br />Theodore Roosevelt is another historical figure that my brother says was a dangerous person and a bad actor in history. Just from memory, something about Roosevelt secretly intruding between Russia and Japan with the intent of dividing up the Pacific with Japan and the result. <br /><br />I don't know about Thurgood Marshall. I'm not religious but that Biblical admonition against doing evil in order to do good is probably the only principled way for me, personally. People who think they are doing "social justice" - well, I don't know about that if they are sacrificing the interests of innocent people. -KarenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36307966149914994422013-07-31T15:22:49.793-04:002013-07-31T15:22:49.793-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24933515083085268682013-07-31T15:20:00.840-04:002013-07-31T15:20:00.840-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.com