tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post246346911190271551..comments2024-03-28T19:37:15.230-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Katyal assesses Trump's alleged crimes!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44990884965558304012022-06-17T10:00:21.168-04:002022-06-17T10:00:21.168-04:00David has a fair point. Trump would have much pre...David has a fair point. Trump would have much preferred a "peaceful" coup. But that damn VP of his just refused to cooperate so what was he to do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57673379507724447202022-06-16T16:16:46.802-04:002022-06-16T16:16:46.802-04:00"the most reckless insidious and calamitous f..."the most reckless insidious and calamitous failures in both legal and political judgement in American history".....Judge J. Michael Luttig<br /><br />David in Cal: yeah baby, give us some more of that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48975043664450860862022-06-16T15:38:08.229-04:002022-06-16T15:38:08.229-04:00Meh. In 2016 Donald The Commander spent half of wh...Meh. In 2016 Donald The Commander spent half of what the Psycho Witch spent, and won. <br /><br />So, where there is a clear choice, money doesn't matter all that much. <br /><br />And when it's Coke vs Pepsi, a non-choice between two establishment candidates, who cares. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66573791099428655482022-06-16T14:18:20.093-04:002022-06-16T14:18:20.093-04:00The root problem is money in elections. Elections ...The root problem is money in elections. Elections should be public ally funded. If you can’t afford it, raise taxes so you can.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69823699795756644142022-06-16T10:31:11.380-04:002022-06-16T10:31:11.380-04:00Q. How many Right-wing accusations are really conf...Q. How many Right-wing accusations are really confessions?<br />A. All of them, Katie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47744493359833628502022-06-16T10:29:57.442-04:002022-06-16T10:29:57.442-04:00David,
Do you really think Trump thought the court...David,<br />Do you really think Trump thought the courts would allow him to be President after losing the election, without the violence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86335369673280584132022-06-16T07:04:53.947-04:002022-06-16T07:04:53.947-04:00It is more than just a political problem. As prose...It is more than just a political problem. As prosecuters look at evidence of possible crimes, Democrats must register people and get Tham to the polls. The other side will never be convinced using facts, logic, and reason. Therefore, we must out vote tham.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58472188717976752462022-06-15T22:32:54.288-04:002022-06-15T22:32:54.288-04:00Well, it’s pretty obvious Bob F@cked
This one up ...Well, it’s pretty obvious Bob F@cked <br />This one up big time. <br /> Why would Loudermilk lie right out <br />of the box about something he may still<br />be able to explain innocently? <br />The logical answers is the real far <br />right nuts, the scummy types like <br />Ginny Thomas, picked up on Trump’s<br />style of absolute arrogance, get <br />them before they can question you. <br />Rewarding such behavior may <br />Have negative effects on society. <br />Don’t expect Bob to consider <br />that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77081657713216202072022-06-15T22:24:06.799-04:002022-06-15T22:24:06.799-04:00I don't think it's really legal to threate...I don't think it's really legal to threaten people on the phone to find votes like he did, he probably tried to be careful with his words but the implication was this was going to hurt if you don't help me. And he can't deny he did that can he? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90787045240221730752022-06-15T21:20:50.242-04:002022-06-15T21:20:50.242-04:00Why does Somerby think that charging crimes agains...Why does Somerby think that charging crimes against politicians is optional? If there was a crime and the evidence exists to convict, the prosecution doesn’t get to decide whether the country can stand it. The same applies to the accused. The prosecution doesn’t decide they’ve had enough or are too weak to take it. This is silly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3961900807584088582022-06-15T20:55:36.041-04:002022-06-15T20:55:36.041-04:00You will. Keep watching the hearings.You will. Keep watching the hearings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80758082558612014252022-06-15T20:31:04.927-04:002022-06-15T20:31:04.927-04:00The “they will use it fundraise” argument
seems to...The “they will use it fundraise” argument<br />seems to have become the go to cliche<br />when you don’t have much else. Both <br />sides do it, to be sure. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24495068570169922422022-06-15T20:26:05.515-04:002022-06-15T20:26:05.515-04:00Former Presidents do affect our national life. Ric...Former Presidents do affect our national life. Richard Nixon’s shill’s worked the rest of his life often effectively glossing over the record (he was a crook years before Watergate), while the Dem’s <br />stupidly threw Bill Clinton, about<br />the most effective President in our <br />lifetime under the bus ( on the <br />word of the most dubious possible<br />People). So yes, the Country <br />should not be that effected by<br />trials of people not holding <br />office. And at the VERY least, <br />we must consider the consequences <br />of just letting someone like <br />Trump go (Bob seems simply<br />too stupid to consider this). <br /> What Jan 6 also shows us is<br />that a lot of these clowns are <br />broken, violent people. They are<br />pretty stupid. Bob and Bill <br />Maher seemed perhaps correctly <br />frightened by this. But if we are <br />going to say, “we are going to <br />let the far right slide because we<br />are scarred they will kill us.” <br />Well, O’K,, but if that’s the direction <br />we are going you should say this<br />So we should sink there with our <br />eyes open. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28856046223238787702022-06-15T20:24:03.804-04:002022-06-15T20:24:03.804-04:00However, this fuss about supposedly jailing Trump ...However, this fuss about supposedly jailing Trump is probably a money-maker for the Democratic politicians. It gives reason a reason for liberals to donate.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30296020222512029882022-06-15T20:21:56.365-04:002022-06-15T20:21:56.365-04:00The Proud Boys committed serious crimes. They are...The Proud Boys committed serious crimes. They are being prosecuted, and properly so. However, I have not seen any public report showing evidence that Trump conspired with the Proud Boys in their crimes. On the contrary, Trump specifically told his supporters to demonstrate "peacefully".David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74784528499900408112022-06-15T19:54:17.460-04:002022-06-15T19:54:17.460-04:00Trump is no longer in office. If he is convicted, ...Trump is no longer in office. If he is convicted, it won’t affect politics. <br /><br />In 2020, we used a political solution by voting him out. Notice that Somerby ignores that vote and pretends Trump is still holding office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69977074370007389282022-06-15T16:50:55.304-04:002022-06-15T16:50:55.304-04:00Bob never brings up the phone calls
to Georgia. Do...Bob never brings up the phone calls<br />to Georgia. Do these NOT seem like <br />election tampering to anyone?<br />Why did Bob never care that in 2015<br />Republicans, quite blatantly; <br />wanted to solve these problems by<br />throwing Hillary Clinton in jail? <br /> Does Bob consider problems that<br />might occur from excusing pols <br />who break the law because political <br />friction may occur? Is he suggesting <br />that holding office (as a Republican<br />anyway) is a free pass to break<br />the law? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8088312241590865372022-06-15T16:18:29.274-04:002022-06-15T16:18:29.274-04:00Clearly, Donald Trump being held accountable
for ...Clearly, Donald Trump being held accountable <br />for criminal activity, no matter how<br />awful, would make Bob feel <br />really bad. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4363189978745732442022-06-15T15:59:58.938-04:002022-06-15T15:59:58.938-04:00"Dems outnumber Republicans, the main problem..."Dems outnumber Republicans, the main problem with Dems winning is getting enough of their voters to actually vote."<br /><br />This statement is true, in the sense that it's always true of every party in every election. But the Dems consistently get more votes than the Republicans, usually millions more, yet end up with less political power. So while, obviously, one problem is the Dems aren't getting enough of their people to vote (a tautology), the *actual* problem is they need a lot *more* of their people voting than the GOP to get the same amount of power.MGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00972720926586814666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20228460909434793202022-06-15T15:23:01.005-04:002022-06-15T15:23:01.005-04:00“our tribe's only tool is a hammer”
That’s od...“our tribe's only tool is a hammer”<br /><br />That’s odd. I recall a post a couple of weeks ago where Somerby was cautioning liberals about making gun control a passionate campaign issue, because there are (gasp!) apparently gun-loving Hispanics. <br /><br />And then before that, he criticized liberals for their approach to Roe v Wade, turning off anti-abortion voters by being too one-sidedly passionate about this <i>campaign issue.</i><br /><br />But here he says the only tool liberals have is the hammer of getting Trump locked up. OK. <br /><br />One thing is clear: in 2016, only one party staged a nominating convention where the desire to lock up the opponent was voiced. <br /><br />And all the TV “liberals”, including, I suppose, Katyal, (if he is indeed a liberal), are careful to say that it is up to the Attorney General to decide if charges are appropriate. <br /><br />Another thing: the 1/6 committee isn’t solely trying to present evidence of Trump’s behavior and/or culpability; they are trying to lay out the facts of what happened and to show all of Trump’s associates and other Republicans who tried to overturn the election in various ways. The truth is the truth. It hurts sometimes, but it needs to be told. <br /><br />And Trump’s “crackpot” schemes are on the verge of being enacted by MAGA Republican officeholders in states around the country, so Somerby ought not be so quick to dismiss them this way. mhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12951477990998948652022-06-15T15:12:48.052-04:002022-06-15T15:12:48.052-04:00Mao,
You were funnier when you pretended you didn’...Mao,<br />You were funnier when you pretended you didn’t get paid by the Establishment to run interference for them.<br />Now, you’ve devolved into a typical one-note Right-wing bigot. <br />We can get that bullshit from Republican Congresspeople daily, if we want it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81143821062003798812022-06-15T15:04:59.498-04:002022-06-15T15:04:59.498-04:00Somerby electoral analysis, as usual, is wrong.
D...Somerby electoral analysis, as usual, is wrong.<br /><br />Dems outnumber Republicans, the main problem with Dems winning is getting enough of their voters to actually vote. Republicans are superior at this, which is why they are a threat. Republicans are also engaged in attempting to suppress Dem voters. <br /><br />The Republican party is corrupt, but Somerby worries Dems are too anti-corruption; Somerby can fret over whatever he wants, more power to him, but it is utter nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44436705333647441582022-06-15T15:01:24.838-04:002022-06-15T15:01:24.838-04:00Bob,
Don’t be shy. Tell us how much money you sent...Bob,<br />Don’t be shy. Tell us how much money you sent to Trump’s non-existent “Official Election Defense Fund”.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90824823174054370742022-06-15T14:51:11.825-04:002022-06-15T14:51:11.825-04:00"But alas! Rather than focusing on political ..."But alas! Rather than focusing on political ways to address that political problem, tribunes of our flailing tribe are increasingly devoted to the task of trying to get Trump locked up."<br /><br />Oh, dear. <br /><br />If you, dear Bob, still don't realize that your flailing tribe's scummy show-trial is your flailing tribe's best (albeit utterly absurd) attempt to solve your flailing tribe's political problem, then... well, then we don't really know what to tell you... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com