tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post378310159210133338..comments2024-03-28T14:57:10.887-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Cable star trashes Senator Manchin!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62950365983595559902021-05-01T01:02:11.143-04:002021-05-01T01:02:11.143-04:00Five weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me. It a...Five weeks ago my boyfriend broke up with me. It all started when i went to summer camp i was trying to contact him but it was not going through. So when I came back from camp I saw him with a young lady kissing in his bed room, I was frustrated and it gave me a sleepless night. I thought he will come back to apologies but he didn't come for almost three week i was really hurt but i thank Dr.Azuka for all he did i met Dr.Azuka during my search at the internet i decided to contact him on his email dr.azukasolutionhome@gmail.com he brought my boyfriend back to me just within 48 hours i am really happy. What’s app contact : +44 7520 636249Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15412911890439251035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87400617078901927422021-04-04T16:10:26.306-04:002021-04-04T16:10:26.306-04:00It is a very hard situation when playing the lotte...It is a very hard situation when playing the lottery and never won, or keep winning low fund not up to 100 bucks, i have been a victim of such a tough life, the biggest fund i have ever won was 100 bucks, and i have been playing lottery for almost 12 years now, things suddenly change the moment i came across a secret online, a testimony of a spell caster called DR EMU, who help people in any type of lottery numbers, i was not easily convinced, but i decided to give try, now i am a proud lottery winner with the help of DR EMU, i won $1,000.0000.00 and i am making this known to every one out there who have been trying all day to win the lottery, believe me this is the only way to win the lottery. contact him via email: Emutemple@gmail.com call or whats app +2347012841542 Website: http://emutemple.website2.me/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15412911890439251035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77808895448434254322021-03-08T10:24:23.338-05:002021-03-08T10:24:23.338-05:001:53,
Replace the sexual predators on the Supreme ...1:53,<br />Replace the sexual predators on the Supreme Court with those who favor voting rights, and you'll have a lot more freedom to choose your politicians.<br /><br />Fixed it for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64197592635877343782021-03-07T16:51:58.388-05:002021-03-07T16:51:58.388-05:00It is a mistake for younger people, who didn't...It is a mistake for younger people, who didn't live through the 1990s, to underestimate the drug-related and gang-related crime during that time period. Kevin Drum attributes it to lead, but most other people attribute it to the rise of the cartels and a strong demand for drug consumption in the US. Crime was real and that dictated the Democratic party position, not Republicans. This attitude is like saying that today's opioid epidemic is not real and hurting people's lives, and addressing it is just a political ploy. Not all drugs are as benign as marijuana.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65615730231095042132021-03-07T15:45:29.998-05:002021-03-07T15:45:29.998-05:00It's almost as if Democrats spent a decade tel...It's almost as if Democrats spent a decade telling voters the Republican position on crime is correct and voters believe them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20718955398191725272021-03-07T13:53:22.687-05:002021-03-07T13:53:22.687-05:00Change campaign donation laws and you'll have ...Change campaign donation laws and you'll have a lot more freedom to choose your politician.<br /><br />The country has favored single payer since the 1990s. Aoc is just democratic. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69160048860953232972021-03-07T13:42:13.980-05:002021-03-07T13:42:13.980-05:00Biden never said he wanted to defund police. That ...Biden never said he wanted to defund police. That was a right-wing smear. Republicans did their best to portray Biden and all other Dems as AOC-style Socialists who were going to do any number of bad things if elected. They don't tell the truth about Democratic candidates. Bernie Bros do everyone a disservice when they repeat the right's talking points. It then becomes impossible to tell the progressive extremists apart from Russian propaganda and Republican disinformation. The progressives need to grow some loyalty to their left fellow travelers and stop attacking the Democratic party. <br /><br />No matter how much I might support single payer or minimum raise hikes, I would not support Bernie or anyone like him because of the way the Bros treated Hillary and the way they have been attacking the Democratic party (DNC). If you don't understand party loyalty and compromise, you are not going to win anything except an occasional local office or isolated House seat (as AOC has done). She is untenable beyond her district because she is too extreme to win at a state level.<br /><br />I read that there were at least 12 Senators against raising the minimum wage to $15 and the leadership abandoned it in order to move the relief bill through faster. It wasn't about the parliamentarian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48382040006905709562021-03-07T12:58:01.586-05:002021-03-07T12:58:01.586-05:00Democrats lost votes because some wanted to "...Democrats lost votes because some wanted to "defund the police."<br />The lesson: Don't start at the compromise position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85989991216105803792021-03-07T12:56:40.554-05:002021-03-07T12:56:40.554-05:00Senator Shaheen*Senator Shaheen*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57526666836318216532021-03-07T12:55:50.071-05:002021-03-07T12:55:50.071-05:001. The Clintons literally kicked out single payer ...1. The Clintons literally kicked out single payer organizers from their meetings. Nobody felt the effect of what they passed either. It didn't register. Read voter testimony. People just thought Clinton was a nice guy. <br /><br />2. Two of the senators signaled that they were open to a wage hike but didn't want to go against the parliamentarian alone, one senator Sheehan wanted some reimbursements for specific industries. This was salvageable. <br /><br />In effect it was lack of leadership from Biden that killed the wage hike. <br /><br />Here I'll give you direct quotes. <br /><br />Here's Joe Manchin saying the president has his back:<br />> "My only vote is to protect the Byrd Rule: hell or high water," Manchin said in an interview with CNN last week. "Everybody knows that. I'm fighting to defend the Byrd Rule. The president knows that."<br /><br />https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-questions-manchins-stance-15-wage-says-majority-west-virginia-supports-it-1572450<br /><br />Jon Tester:<br />> Well, look, I have supported a minimum wage increase in the past. And I think that the debate we're going to have on the minimum wage, if it ends up in the package by the way — and we still don't know if the parliamentarian is going to see it pass the Byrd bath or not.<br /><br />https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/sen-jon-tester-on-covid-relief-minimum-wage-and-bidens-cabinet-nominees<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55040943545758899442021-03-07T12:52:51.942-05:002021-03-07T12:52:51.942-05:00Bernie would have lost in a landslide.Bernie would have lost in a landslide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17993630493943652372021-03-07T11:00:40.946-05:002021-03-07T11:00:40.946-05:00I would disagree that the problem in these states ...I would disagree that the problem in these states are the result of national Democrats. Rather, it is a reflection of the people of these states. To win them, should our candidates sound like Donald Trump? I don't think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9423214744846370022021-03-07T09:13:09.206-05:002021-03-07T09:13:09.206-05:00"The minimum wage can be passed with Kamala H..."The minimum wage can be passed with Kamala Harris raising her hand."<br /><br />It cannot be passed with two Senators voting against it. There are at least that many opposed to it. You do not hold a vote that you know you will lose.<br /><br />Hillary ran to the left of Obama in the 2008 primaries. Bernie and his bros did not support her. <br /><br />There was no "base growth" after Clinton because Gore chose to run away from Clinton's achievements, and because he put Liberman on his ticket. The "performative" impeachment may have hurt him too. It wasn't that people disliked the 8 years of improvement in their lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57425007520367128922021-03-07T00:01:38.637-05:002021-03-07T00:01:38.637-05:00Democrats did very, very poorly in the latest Cong...Democrats did very, very poorly in the latest Congressional races. While narrowly winning the presidency, the party actually lost seats in the House and failed in its bid to take control of the Senate. I guess people just were not that excited about them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23442247114211606332021-03-06T23:32:37.655-05:002021-03-06T23:32:37.655-05:00The minimum wage can be passed with Kamala Harris ...The minimum wage can be passed with Kamala Harris raising her hand. It's the least uncertain thing in politics right now. Unable to budge for the greater good.<br /><br />Yes Bush stole Florida but it's easiest to steal a close election, which it was. No base growth under Clinton. <br /><br />No, it's not incorrect to cite Obamacare as a reason Trump won. It was a major talking point and showed up in the transcripts of voters. <br /><br />Obama did gain voters but many were quickly lost after he didn't deliver on substance. A public option would have fixed that. In other words, being less conservative. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23805509409007599332021-03-06T23:09:22.273-05:002021-03-06T23:09:22.273-05:00The Costume Company is proud to offer the BIGGEST ...The Costume Company is proud to offer the BIGGEST and BEST range of quality costumes to buy and hire (local to Brisbane).<br />With FAST shipping Australia wide from our local suppliers (not overseas!) you can be assured that you’ll get your costume quickly without stress.<br />With 400+ five-star Google Reviews, you’re guaranteed to be the talk of the town with our legendary range of fancy-dress costumes and accessories.<br />www.costumecompany.com.auhttps://costumecompany.com.au/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51135638043179524432021-03-06T17:49:58.818-05:002021-03-06T17:49:58.818-05:00From Palmer Report:
"What is unfathomable to...From Palmer Report:<br /><br />"What is unfathomable to me is the venom with which some people are attacking those in their party. It isn’t comforting. And frankly, I saw this back in 2008 when Obama took office. I saw it not two weeks after Obama assumed the Presidency. I remember the comments and conversations. This, mind you, was 14 days after he’d become the President.<br /><br />Some people do not like Biden and never wanted him in office, and these people are not all the far right. Without naming names, I have seen some well-known individuals who call themselves Democrats engaging in the “Biden let us down” mantra. Many of these same people say things like, “Bernie would have done it by now.” That is frankly poppycock. Bernie was never going to win. Many people do not like the term “Socialist,” plus some of his views were too extreme for mainstream American voters."<br /><br />Bernie supporters were as guilty of spreading anti-Hillary memes as the conservatives were. Here @4:08 repeats attack points against Biden and Democrats that could have come from the right-wing as easily as from a Bernie progressive. <br /><br />This idea that Democrats are huge failures because they are too conservative whereas Bernie could have gotten things done, is wrong and I agree with Palmer that it can hurt us going into 2022. Like the Republicans, many Bernie supporters don't care about damaging Democratic prospects in their quest to get their own way. I think they need to rethink that approach or they will bury their own hopes along with those of the Democrats in general.<br /><br />Manchin can be a spoiler, but so can progressives who are unwilling to compromise for the greater good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2821407924382422642021-03-06T17:40:39.149-05:002021-03-06T17:40:39.149-05:00Lots of facts contradict your list:
1. Gore won i...Lots of facts contradict your list:<br /><br />1. Gore won in FL (and the electoral college and popular vote) and only lost the election because he didn't demand a recount. Bush won because his brother was Gov of FL.<br /><br />2. Gore lost some Clinton supporters because he ran away from Clinton's accomplishments, not on them.<br /><br />3. Obama did grow the Democratic base. His treatment of Hillary lost him some female voters and, of course, all the racial bigots. <br /><br />4. Of all the reasons why Trump won, Obamacare wasn't one of them.<br /><br />5. Biden is already delivering on his promises and Senators like Shaheen and Manchin are supporting his bills. Minimum wage didn't have a chance in that bill.<br /><br />Any president who starts out with nearly 70% favorability is going to drop in the polls over time. Biden already has higher favorability than Trump at any time during his presidency. I believe Trump never broke 50%.<br /><br />I might agree that Dems are too right wing, but your evidence is bogus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27309787190555967782021-03-06T17:00:32.745-05:002021-03-06T17:00:32.745-05:00Eight senators line up exactly behind the presiden...Eight senators line up exactly behind the president, following the tribe, and this blog celebrates it as a difference of opinion. <br /><br />Upside down..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18691908458421217812021-03-06T16:08:01.789-05:002021-03-06T16:08:01.789-05:00Bob's argument only works if you look at the e...Bob's argument only works if you look at the extreme short term. <br /><br />Hypothesis:<br /><br />Democrats are unable to grow their party base because they don't deliver on substance and are too ideologically right wing.<br /><br />Evidence:<br />- Losing to Reagan while trying to flank him from the right <br />- 8 years of George Bush after gaining no supporters in the 90s, killing a million people in Iraq with much Dem support<br />- Relying on marketing and charisma to put Obama in office<br />- Losing to Trump because of Obamacare's weaknesses<br />- Electing Biden who can't deliver on his campaign promises because of clouted members of his own party such as Shaheen (almost 200k dollars in donations from Nursing homes and hospitals to block the minimum wage) <br /><br />If Biden's poll numbers start dropping he deserves itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15323133385229394072021-03-06T15:52:48.918-05:002021-03-06T15:52:48.918-05:00Here, dear Bob, for your reading pleasure, real, s...Here, dear Bob, for your reading pleasure, real, straightforward media criticism, of one of your goebbelsian dembots: https://www.foxnews.com/media/greenwald-joy-reid-crazy-comment-johnson<br /><br />Compare it to your typical 'self-conscious dembot' M.O.: 'The Others are crazy and we liberal zombies may be somewhat imperfect'. Will ya? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40385105929350130692021-03-06T15:36:49.100-05:002021-03-06T15:36:49.100-05:00As this have turned out, the bill would have passe...As this have turned out, the bill would have passed with or without Manchin, but he did support it:<br /><br />"President Joe Biden’s popular American Rescue Plan passed the U.S. Senate on Saturday by a vote of 50 to 49, with zero votes from the Republican side of the aisle.<br /><br />Alaska GOP Sen. Dan Sullivan had to leave town for a family emergency, so only 49 Republicans were available for the final vote. This eliminated the need for a tie-breaking vote from Vice President Kamala Harris."<br /><br />Is it "performative" when Republicans vote in solidarity to deny their constituents important relief during a pandemic? Or is it just a bad faith exercise in political power instead of governance? Why is it bad when Democrats are "performative" but good when Republicans are "performative"?<br /><br />I think it is time to retire the word "performative" altogether. It seems to be another of those conservative memes that are only used to chastise liberals, but turn out to have no substance when examined seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42937189373880421992021-03-06T15:18:50.163-05:002021-03-06T15:18:50.163-05:00Kevin Drum says: "And yet, an awful lot of p...Kevin Drum says: "And yet, an awful lot of progressives have insisted on on absolutely reaming Manchin and Sinema for their (admittedly sometimes performative) objections to the bill."<br /><br />So, he is suggesting that the objections to the bill expressed by Manchin and Sinema are insincere. When the progressives attack Manchin, it helps him with his back home constituents because it makes him look less like a Democrat and more like someone who is holding the line on things they care about. It is win-win for Manchin. Of course his objections are "performative." Their purpose is to reassure his red state supporters that he is not too liberal for their votes.<br /><br />Lately, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been introducing motions to adjourn which delay House proceedings and interfere with business on both sides of the aisle. Her own party members are pissed at her for that. This too is "performative" in the sense that she doesn't want to delay anything and her motions serve no purpose, other than to reassure her supporters that she is still able to shake things up and annoy the libs, despite being on no committees. It isn't like her constituents want her to actually achieve anything. Her role is to mess up the government, just like Trump and all of his appointees.<br /><br />Actions only make sense in relation to motives and goals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-22948099426888017332021-03-06T12:36:35.122-05:002021-03-06T12:36:35.122-05:00“Way back when, this silly star played this same g...“Way back when, this silly star played this same game, though less politely in certain ways, with respect to Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-New Hampshire).”<br /><br />Whatever happened “way back when”, apparently it didn’t matter. Shaheen won her third term last fall with 56.7% of the vote. <br /><br />And on what planet is criticism from Rachel Maddow a net negative for someone like Manchin from a very red state?? It could plausibly be a plus for him. <br /><br />Somerby spent a hell of a lot of time raking Elizabeth Warren over the coals in very unpleasant ways, attacking her for her “Native American” controversy and also passing along, without critique, an attack piece about her health care plan complaining about the cost. And if she had lost in 2018, one could go through the same silly mental exercise as Somerby did with Manchin and assume all other events would turn out exactly the way they did, which would mean that the Senate would now be in Republican hands. <br /><br />So Somerby, the paragon of politeness, is saying what: that no one, particularly progressives, should criticize conservative Democratic Senators from red states?<br /><br />I’m all for including a wide variety of views in the Democratic Party. In other words, the current Democratic Party. <br /><br />But the implication here, to me, is that voters in WV must not be ready to accept Bernie-style Democratic Socialism if Manchin thinks he needs to whittle down stimulus checks and oppose the minimum wage increase in a state whose Governor even supported the larger checks. mhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08937133532381705347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54314551283528228182021-03-06T12:00:05.762-05:002021-03-06T12:00:05.762-05:00"she won only 20 states!"
Somerby knows..."she won only 20 states!"<br /><br />Somerby knows very well that it isn't the number of states but the number of electoral votes a candidate wins that matters. Hillary won populous states with large numbers of electoral votes (NY, CA). The purpose of the electoral college is to give small states with small populations more of a chance to influence the outcome of the election, which is what happened.<br /><br />Somerby won't acknowledge this either, but the institution of the electoral college was a compromise to appease the slave-holding states who feared they might be out-numbered and slavery ended without some counterbalance to the more populous Northern abolitionist states.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com