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Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38502792811590369702018-12-13T13:07:36.129-05:002018-12-13T13:07:36.129-05:00People with a mental age of six are executed as &q...People with a mental age of six are executed as "murderers" because the mental age of six has nothing to do with the adult status of the "criminal" which can easily be as young as twelve. But let someone enter a sexual relationship with a sexually mature young man or woman with mental age of thirty, but by date of physical birth below whatever age some state legislature in its unparalleled wisdom has denominated "the age of consent," and the consequences range from, at the lightest, professional death, to permanent exile, all the way to life imprisonment. You doubt? Ever heard of James Levine? Ever heard of Roman Polanski?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29154793814063265722018-12-13T03:53:36.319-05:002018-12-13T03:53:36.319-05:00If you read Ecclesiastes at any point in time, reg...If you read Ecclesiastes at any point in time, regardless of the activity that preceded such reading, the words would appear unremarkable - unoriginal pablum.<br /><br />If you want the words of the bible to jump off the page, read Leviticus 25:44-46 and Exodus 21:2-6 and Exodus 21:7-11 and Exodus 21:20-21 and for lighter fare there is Ephesians 6:5 and 1 Timothy 6:1-2 and Luke 12:47-48. These are some of the parts of the bible that give instruction on dealing with your slaves. <br /><br />Fun times!<br /><br />I kid, there is nothing sincere within the text of the bible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37357539047619791082018-12-13T03:24:29.953-05:002018-12-13T03:24:29.953-05:00it is not deceptive, the point is we should not ex...it is not deceptive, the point is we should not execute the mentally handicapped regardless of whether they are murderers or not, "MURDERERS" is irrelevant, having said that, the phrase "death penalty" makes it clear what the circumstances are.<br />what is deceptive is how you appear to be unaware of your own lack of integrity.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOY1evK9bMs" rel="nofollow">such a nasty woman</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21380782016304306932018-12-12T18:12:06.542-05:002018-12-12T18:12:06.542-05:00@12:03 -- that's deceptive wording. I think y...@12:03 -- that's deceptive wording. I think you mean "using the death penalty to execute mentally retarded MURDERERS". I don't mean to say that policy is correct, but only that the description should be complete.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76350769470354116512018-12-12T16:53:42.714-05:002018-12-12T16:53:42.714-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18279699469077090424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58025729361881106982018-12-12T16:45:16.848-05:002018-12-12T16:45:16.848-05:00There’s another alternative. That my “you” is rhet...There’s another alternative. That my “you” is rhetorical, Just as those people who you referenced as holding my (assumed) views are rhetorical. Just as your statement that I don’t speak for others (when you admit I could be speaking for many others) is rhetorical.<br /><br />Disingenuous is no way to go thru life, kid. <br />Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57496621448114635252018-12-12T16:37:26.604-05:002018-12-12T16:37:26.604-05:00“How about the logic (the semantics) of lies,...”
...“How about the logic (the semantics) of lies,...”<br /><br />Logic and semantics are two different fields. Perhaps Somerby needs to launch an attack on elite professors of semantics as well. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38071666206687586192018-12-12T16:29:23.001-05:002018-12-12T16:29:23.001-05:00What exactly are you saying then, Cecelia? There a...What exactly are you saying then, Cecelia? There aren’t a lot of options. Either you like Ecclesiastes and dislike Hart and are speaking for yourself alone, or by using the word “you”, you are broadening that to an assumption that “you”, meaning what? Me? Everyone else? Just say “I” and your statement is fine. You are the one including others in your own opinion by using the word “you.” Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88085782512660045962018-12-12T16:25:07.965-05:002018-12-12T16:25:07.965-05:00It’s apparent that I find beauty in the book of Ec...It’s apparent that I find beauty in the book of Ecclesiastes, and apparent that I think my opinion is the only correct one and that I speak for everyone. <br /><br />After that lecture on not making assumptions you need a logician or ten. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14241625550633761122018-12-12T16:23:12.528-05:002018-12-12T16:23:12.528-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62977865705164886262018-12-12T15:54:03.146-05:002018-12-12T15:54:03.146-05:00Huh? There are some who find beauty and clarity in...Huh? There are some who find beauty and clarity in the Bible, some in the works of Georg Cantor or Kurt Gödel, and some both. You apparently find beauty in Ecclesiastes, but not in Hart. Good for you. Your opinion isn’t the only correct one. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21247995371828095402018-12-12T15:48:26.007-05:002018-12-12T15:48:26.007-05:00I'll assume you are speaking for yourself, not...I'll assume you are speaking for yourself, not every person in the world. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64040550861163653912018-12-12T15:26:41.482-05:002018-12-12T15:26:41.482-05:00You should change the word “you” to “I” in your se...You should change the word “you” to “I” in your sentence. You don’t get to speak for others. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37984878735723412322018-12-12T15:24:07.897-05:002018-12-12T15:24:07.897-05:00Somerby doesn’t seem to be widely read in the work...Somerby doesn’t seem to be widely read in the works of “modern elite logicians”. So far, over the last year or so, he has described exactly two books, one by Rebecca Goldstein about Gödel, and another by Jim Holt containing an essay about Gödel. This hardly seems representative of the state of “modern elite logic.”<br /><br />His recent “discussion” of Hart’s book only adds one to that list, but it also groups unlike things together.<br />Goldstein’s and Holt’s books are meant to appeal to a broader audience, whereas Hart’s book is principally targeted at an audience of trained philosophers/logicians. <br /><br />But aside from that, it is one thing to criticize Goldstein or Holt, but quite another to use their work, which is often a paraphrase of Gödel, as a backdoor way of attacking Gödel himself, which Somerby is, in fact, doing, without even having engaged with a single word of Gödel’s own work. <br /><br />Somerby apparently feels that the (human-created) field of logic has value, since he seems to feel it might help us “rubes” with our discourse. But then he proceeds to claim that most of our elite logicians aren’t and weren’t ever “all that.” <br /><br />The reader is left to wonder about this paradox in Somerby’s thinking. “Logicians” created the formal idea and system of logic, yet they aren’t really “all that.”<br /><br />And by the way, the notion that there is such a thing as “logic” would be labeled a “fiction” by Harari. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83618301458047252422018-12-12T15:13:04.415-05:002018-12-12T15:13:04.415-05:00If you read Ecclesiastes after reading the excerpt...If you read Ecclesiastes after reading the excerpted material here, the words of that Old Testament book would jump off the page. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46277814786994606902018-12-12T14:14:44.979-05:002018-12-12T14:14:44.979-05:00“Ignore their flight from public service! Is it po...“Ignore their flight from public service! Is it possible that our elite logicians just haven't been especially insightful or sharp, even on their own terms?”<br /><br />Then why would Somerby lament their flight from public service? If he is correct, then he shouldn’t even *want* their help. As a matter of fact, he should be glad that they are absent. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79752826278363980292018-12-12T13:02:59.187-05:002018-12-12T13:02:59.187-05:00"But not a word about the owners, the multimi..."But not a word about the owners, the multimillionaires and billionaires"<br /><br />You should study political economy, anon. Or read Der fucking Kapital. <br /><br />The problem is not "multimillionaires and billionaires". The issue is <i>systemic</i>, anon. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15202643999948162632018-12-12T11:46:13.942-05:002018-12-12T11:46:13.942-05:00No doubt Bob is right that the media gives less co...No doubt Bob is right that the media gives less coverage than it should to bad things done by the US. But, IMHO they give even less coverage to the great many good things done by the US. With Trump as President, it's even worse.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09068188536758619565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-92071300847755909162018-12-12T11:43:19.942-05:002018-12-12T11:43:19.942-05:00So much, so repetitious, such utter preovccupation...So much, so repetitious, such utter preovccupation with snarking (commination) at various jourtnalists for alleged misdeeds going back more than ageneration. But not a word about the owners, the multimillionaires and billionaires, who have for more than a century been Hearstily distorting, depraving, and manipulating our whole public discourse to insure that their private interests, and only those, frame the "Overton Window." But go ahead. Whine about lackeys, leave Lords alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85037570397428296202018-12-12T11:24:35.845-05:002018-12-12T11:24:35.845-05:00"Next week, we'look at Goldtsein's tr..."Next week, we'look at Goldtsein's treatment of this embarrassing part of the modern history of upper-end, high detached elite "logic.""<br /><br />How can anything a high-end logician has written be more embarrassing that what Somerby writes out the depths of his ignorance?<br /><br />Tomorrow, as an everyday person with no training in medicine, I will explore brain surgery. Then on Friday, I will discuss rocket science, with no relevant education in that field either. And finally, I will discuss cosmetology, since I know nothing about that either, mocking the fine points of selecting hair dyes to match skin tone. Then maybe I'll mock those who know something about stand up, if I haven't gotten my point across by then. What exactly is Somerby's point with all? Perhaps he is trying to demonstrate that there are fields of knowledge that require training to understand? Hard to know since he never directly states any thesis other than liberals suck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43409133484994155162018-12-12T11:19:24.282-05:002018-12-12T11:19:24.282-05:00Today Somerby demonstrates that he has never heard...Today Somerby demonstrates that he has never heard of the field of psycholinguistics. How sad that someone's education should be frozen at whatever was learned as an adolescent in college. Sad that someone should never go beyond the bounds of those first years, instead rereading the same books, never understanding them because he doesn't talk to anyone else about them, until he writes garbage like the stuff he posts today.<br /><br />There are any number of philosophers and psychologists and linguistics who have studied paraphrase and other aspects of semantics in everyday discourse. Somerby should read them instead of rehashing Frege or Godel or whoever else he chooses to denigrate.<br /><br />Even discussing Chomsky would be better than what Somerby does here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com