tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post3857407823265274549..comments2024-03-28T05:37:00.890-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE PAROCHIALS: The case of Roy Moore's troubling marriage!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10088452196590879182021-04-15T06:06:27.538-04:002021-04-15T06:06:27.538-04:00This Was A Great And Interesting Article dinar chr...<br />This Was A Great And Interesting Article <a href="http://dinarchroniclesinfo.com/" rel="nofollow">dinar chronicles</a><br />intelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06781591744989489235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68556722375319636992017-12-19T14:45:46.022-05:002017-12-19T14:45:46.022-05:00★COMPOSITE HACKS★
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(Wikipedia)<br /><br />From the article linked to in Wikipedia:<br /><br />"JFK asked her to give an aide, and later his brother Teddy, sexual favors. Reflects Alford: “It’s dark to look back on.” Still, she insists, he was “a kind man. Just troubled.”<br /><br />Sure doesn't sound like rape, but it does sound a similar to all of the recent hullabaloo, id est, men of power taking advantage of weaker women.<br /><br />It has always been thus. It seems an almost biological imperative. Will their ever be parity between the sexes?<br /><br />Not as long as it's a man's world. But we should really keep trying, though the veneer of Homo sapiens' civilization is indeed thin. Especially in view of the fact that human civilization is in serious danger of collapsing.<br /><br />LeroyLeroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33131355605573729912017-12-05T17:17:46.415-05:002017-12-05T17:17:46.415-05:00Interesting thread. Several good points 12:33 and...Interesting thread. Several good points 12:33 and others.<br /><br />Made me think of some possible voting blocs in Alabama:<br /><br />Will vote for Moore no matter what by reflex and/or because they strongly believe in conservative values. Without value judging this group, it is anger against liberalism in this group that we mostly see. Yet no matter how much these folks are offended by WaPo and MSNBC or Obama or Hillary, they don’t get an extra vote. They may push the button more robustly, but their gusto does not change the vote totals. This is by far the biggest bloc and by itself large enough to sway most Alabama elections.<br /><br />Will vote for Jones no matter what by habit and/or because they believe in progressive values. No matter how offended these folks are by the allegations against Jones or by Trump or Fox News they don’t get an extra vote either.<br /><br />Will change their vote from Jones to Moore because they are offended by the behavior of liberal talking heads. This is a micro group who seem silly in their fickleness and not as big a factor as many here (overall, not on this thread) claim.<br /><br />Will change their vote from Moore to Jones because they believe the allegations. This grouping is significant and will make the election closer but, as Bob might say: whether it is enough for Jones to win, we have no way of knowing (until the votes are in).<br /><br />Will change their vote from Moore to Jones because they perceive that the republican tax package will hurt them and they may feel betrayed by Trump who promised to take care of them. <br /><br />Will change their vote from Moore to Jones because they don’t like Moore’s other baggage. Bob is right that too much time has been spent concentrating on and exaggerating the allegations rather than on Moore’s long public record. <br /><br />Were not going to vote but are inspired to go to the polls and vote for Moore because of any of the above reasons favoring Moore or their overall disdain for liberalism, accentuated by recent media attacks on Moore and Trump, etc. They feel under siege partly because of what they see on TV or social media. Don’t underestimate the effect of social media news and fake news. This group is probably the most appropriate to the current discussion and it might be significant in swaying the election.<br /><br />Were not going to vote but are inspired to go to the polls and vote for Jones because of any of the above-mentioned reasons favoring Jones, especially the allegations or because their perception Trump is dangerous.<br /><br />I of course agree with you 12:33 that Bob has made his point incessantly and should move on, perhaps addressing: <br /><br />What would be the effect if the MSM and liberal media began acting much more aggressively, ala Breitbart, but in support of liberal candidates? <br /><br />What would be the effect if the MSM and liberal media became significantly more honest and balanced, even acting with pristine integrity and dignity as demanded by Bob? Would liberals win more or fewer elections? <br />Dude the Obscurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04168943380628649253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77998511090750795152017-12-05T16:38:49.728-05:002017-12-05T16:38:49.728-05:00there are no goal posts, there are no politicians ...there are no goal posts, there are no politicians who don't lie. <br /><br />if you're going to vote, you're going to vote for a liar. if you're not going to vote for a liar, you're not going to vote. fairly basic concept. <br /><br />it is to be expected, much as your propaganda and snark is also full of lies and deliberate rhetorical mischaracterizations. the tribal dances continueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71766491014739979502017-12-05T15:41:37.079-05:002017-12-05T15:41:37.079-05:00"I'm sure you've never voted for a po..."I'm sure you've never voted for a politician that lied before."<br /><br />Those goalposts aren't going to move themselves. Right, 1:08 PM?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32215733354217484482017-12-05T15:40:03.523-05:002017-12-05T15:40:03.523-05:00Somerby's been buying into Right-wing tropes, ...Somerby's been buying into Right-wing tropes, like right-wingers vote for Republicans because some liberal somewhere said something bad about them, when it's obvious they vote AGAINST Democrats because Democrats respect women and people of color.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51105208848841764262017-12-05T15:36:31.016-05:002017-12-05T15:36:31.016-05:00"The Moore story would be working better if h..."The Moore story would be working better if his critics weren't so feverishly dishonest about it. "<br /><br />Come back to the light, Anonymous 1;47 PM. There is absolutely nothing dishonest about calling Roy Moore a religious wackadoodle, who promotes bigotry, and shouldn't be anywhere near the levers of governmental power. You would think that would be enough for "the good people of Alabama."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12462586057013603852017-12-05T15:29:35.755-05:002017-12-05T15:29:35.755-05:00The story in People calls it seduction, not rape.
...The story in People calls it seduction, not rape.<br /><br />http://people.com/politics/how-jfk-seduced-white-house-intern-mimi-alford/<br />impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91547548806402603632017-12-05T14:39:27.444-05:002017-12-05T14:39:27.444-05:00Their accusations are either true or false and sho...Their accusations are either true or false and should be judged on the merits, not what some clown in the media thinks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38853894151351018012017-12-05T14:13:10.879-05:002017-12-05T14:13:10.879-05:00TDH has enough name recognition to be a trigger at...TDH has enough name recognition to be a trigger at Breitbart/Bannon. You go, Bob. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26087387937338483932017-12-05T14:09:11.719-05:002017-12-05T14:09:11.719-05:00And the media didn't "make up" Leigh...And the media didn't "make up" Leigh Corfman's story or Beverly Nelson's now did they? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10959455970639580932017-12-05T14:02:20.958-05:002017-12-05T14:02:20.958-05:00So how much is Moore lying about? Ms Gibson? All o...So how much is Moore lying about? Ms Gibson? All of it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20376306356665135312017-12-05T14:01:20.150-05:002017-12-05T14:01:20.150-05:00And do you honestly think that if Lawrence chose t...And do you honestly think that if Lawrence chose to rant nightly about how bad Moore's religious bigotry is, or how reprehensible his views on gays and women, that the Alabama voters would be any more appreciative of that? Of course not...they would still cry foul, "media bias" etc. and proudly cast their vote against the liberal media. And Somerby would probably condemn Lawrence for THAT anyway, since it would be disrespecting the "Others" religious beliefs or what have you. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't with Somerby. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52546190950750372122017-12-05T13:53:14.492-05:002017-12-05T13:53:14.492-05:00"“Happy graduation Debbie,” it read in slante..."“Happy graduation Debbie,” it read in slanted cursive handwriting. “I wanted to give you this card myself. I know that you’ll be a success in anything you do. Roy.”"<br /><br />Sorry. That hardly sounds like taking to a girlfriend, or someone you're dating.<br /><br />He may have known her, but this does NOT prove a dating relationship. Quite the opposite. There'd be LOTS more written evidence, as well as a few "loves" posted here and there.<br /><br />Does anyone (besides Bob and a few others) ever think about this stuff?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29355879021848809172017-12-05T13:50:43.045-05:002017-12-05T13:50:43.045-05:00Somerby himself never discusses anything about Moo...Somerby himself never discusses anything about Moore except the sex stuff. Meanwhile, how do you think I or anyone else know anything about Moore? His religious bigotry, his judicial malfeasance, his views on women and gays? Because it's been discussed in the media. If you read only Somerby's blog, you would never know anything else about Moore except the sex allegations. Somerby could maybe talk about that one out of a hundred posts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30734608461476456412017-12-05T13:47:13.998-05:002017-12-05T13:47:13.998-05:00The Moore story would be working better if his cri...The Moore story would be working better if his critics weren't so feverishly dishonest about it. <br /><br />At first it did, and then the pile on (and lack of continuing claims) backfired. People down there almost have sympathy for the guy.<br /><br />Falsely calling him a child molester only antagonizes those voters who might be on the fence about his past. It veers them away from the accusers, not in their favor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91839032442959756102017-12-05T13:43:28.217-05:002017-12-05T13:43:28.217-05:00So how much is Moore lying about? Ms Gibson? All o...So how much is Moore lying about? Ms Gibson? All of it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72672906688679485352017-12-05T13:43:06.567-05:002017-12-05T13:43:06.567-05:00I think Somerby's point has been made, ...
No...I think Somerby's point has been made, ...<br /><br />Not enough. The MSM would rather pontificate and make up stories. And to what purpose?<br /><br />Like Moore's not bad enough?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20364900934635504242017-12-05T13:41:26.912-05:002017-12-05T13:41:26.912-05:0017 was legal.
No surprise. And, I think, big deal...17 was legal.<br /><br />No surprise. And, I think, big deal. His relationships too were hardly relationships.<br /><br />Most people in Alabama feel the same way, male and female. And so the more people carry on about it in outrage up North, the more silly (and hypocritical) the voters down there think they come off.<br /><br />Instead, the MSNBC crowd likes to call these voters "crazy" and "evil." And then wonders why they won't vote for Dems (!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12027373017066371002017-12-05T13:40:29.250-05:002017-12-05T13:40:29.250-05:00So how much is Moore lying about? Ms Gibson? All o...So how much is Moore lying about? Ms Gibson? All of it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com