tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post3956697709533193788..comments2024-03-29T11:33:11.105-04:00Comments on the daily howler: MALALA, MATTHEWS AND MADDOW: Not being against!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger90125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72751665393030116182018-11-03T06:53:07.199-04:002018-11-03T06:53:07.199-04:00خدمات شركة تنظيف خزانات بالمدينة المنورة
1- خدمات...خدمات <a href="https://www.alraid-sa.com/%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B8%D9%8A%D9%81-%D8%AE%D8%B2%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%86%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A9/" rel="nofollow">شركة تنظيف خزانات بالمدينة المنورة</a><br /><br />1- خدمات التنظيف الشامل لكافة انواع الخزانات<br /><br />2- خدمات التعقييم والتطهير الدقيق<br /><a href="https://www.alraid-sa.com/" rel="nofollow">افضل شركة تنظيف خزانات</a><br />3- خدمات العزل المائى للخزانات<br /><br />4- كل هذه <a href="https://www.alraid-sa.com/%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B8%D9%8A%D9%81-%D8%AE%D8%B2%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%86%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A9/" rel="nofollow">تنظيف خزانات</a><br /> تقدم لكم من خلال افضل المواد والادوات المستخدمة<br />noorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15129655513968510353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73694275213566630052013-11-01T12:15:33.663-04:002013-11-01T12:15:33.663-04:00"...a mindless, immoral automaton who is inca..."...a mindless, immoral automaton who is incapable of independent thought.."<br /><br />Project much?matty coopernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86758764341499822002013-10-31T15:02:00.063-04:002013-10-31T15:02:00.063-04:00(Same anon as 1:46)
> I don't think anyone...(Same anon as 1:46)<br /><br />> I don't think anyone considers it disrespectful to refer to Gandhi without "Mr" because he is such an icon<br /><br />I would agree with you ...if referring to him in isolation. But if one refers to Dr. King and Mother Theresa, then why not Mahatma Gandhi, Gandhi ji or at least Mr. Gandhi?<br /><br />While you and I agree that he is an icon, I suspect that his contributions are not as generously recognized and acknowledged as you suggest...<br /><br />In any case, I would like to believe the motive that you mention above..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40478612590410747662013-10-31T10:56:03.130-04:002013-10-31T10:56:03.130-04:00OK, what is your evidence that the resistance to h...OK, what is your evidence that the resistance to hiring Irish in NYC was due to bigotry and unrelated to the quality of the unskilled Irish workforce? Why are there phrases like "lace curtain Irish" and "shanty Irish" in our language? More bigotry? Why did so many Irish immigrants become prize fighters, more bigotry? Why did they go into politics and the police force in disproportionate numbers? More bigotry? How do you explain Frank McCourt's autobiographical book Angela's Ashes? What about the depictions of the Irish by other Irish authors? Self-hatred?<br /><br />If you are of Irish heritage, why do you so often confuse Northern Ireland with the remainder of the country, as if Belfast and Cork were just names of cities?<br /><br />I have been to Ireland too, a lot more recently than you, and I am of more than Irish heritage. I don't consider my heritage to be a stick to beat Bob Somerby with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3436551076302052013-10-31T09:33:46.343-04:002013-10-31T09:33:46.343-04:00that federal park ranger berated by a Republican c...<i> that federal park ranger berated by a Republican congressman just for doing her job...</i><br /><br />"'I'm just doing my job' is the excuse of the weak-minded. It is a desperate attempt to shift responsibility for one's actions to someone else and therefore take on the actions of a mindless, immoral automaton who is incapable of independent thought. Throughout history, countless atrocities and war crimes have been conducted under the excuse of 'I'm just doing my job.'" <br /><br />Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030563_TSA_agents_psychology.html#ixzz2jJ2tVlSeDavid in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11178856720094996712013-10-31T00:58:45.572-04:002013-10-31T00:58:45.572-04:00also irish says,
"No, it was because the Iri...also irish says,<br /><br />"No, it was because the Irish applying for unskilled jobs did not speak English..."<br /><br />>>> by 1800 half of ireland spoke english. by the time of the genocide forty years later i would imagine 60-70% would have spoken english. and these english speakers probably would have been the most likely to migrate to an english speaking country like america. <br /><br />"...were from rural areas unfamiliar with city life..." - also irish<br /><br />>>> there was dublin and cork and belfast that some may have been from or traveled to on occasion before emigrating from ireland.<br /><br />"...believed in superstitions different than the culture of New England."<br /><br />they were christian too, just of a different sect, catholic mostly. i doubt the irish people actually believed in leprechauns if thats what you mean. but even if they did, is that enough to justify the violent bigotry they faced in america?<br /><br /><br />"...were often poor and engaged in things like stealing."<br /><br />>>> they were poor bc of the bigotry they faced in getting work.<br /><br />"See "Gangs of New York" for a realistic depiction of the Irish poor in that time period."<br /><br />>>> you say that like you were there. i didnt have the stomach to watch that movie bc i heard it was based on an anti-irish book. . . . my advice would be to be very suspicious of historical accounts or movies based on historical accounts about the irish or 'irish-americans' coming from people who despised them, whether it be the the ancient romans, the english, 'english-americans' etc. <br /><br />"...the traditional Irish cultural pugnaciousness..."<br /><br />i visited ireland about thirty years ago. friendliest people you could ever imagine.an american who happens to have irish-catholic heritagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37200450260705045262013-10-30T22:23:46.161-04:002013-10-30T22:23:46.161-04:00Shorter Howler: politics should be beanbag.Shorter Howler: politics should be beanbag.urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25071714142824040932013-10-30T21:23:11.588-04:002013-10-30T21:23:11.588-04:00To be fair and balanced, Cruz is spreading the hat...To be fair and balanced, Cruz is spreading the hate too. Not racial hate, but anti-government hate. Which as far as I'm concerned, is not much better. The federal government, after all, is made up of people. Human beings like that federal park ranger berated by a Republican congressman just for doing her job and not allowing people access to a monument during the shutdown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67518834131547518702013-10-30T18:24:51.697-04:002013-10-30T18:24:51.697-04:00Enjoying bars and punch in the community room afte...Enjoying bars and punch in the community room after Paster Bob's last sermon, one might ponder... just HOW did those tiresome Republican Jokes about our beautiful Capital city become so common place? Might it be the result of the kind of behavior The Pastor deplores every OTHER sunday, when he rails at how liberals just sit there and take it? And what about the other tribe, which raps itself in the Bible, is there NO time when they become accountable for their words and deeds. No, to heel the world and eat the sand thrown in our faces is truly the multicultural Man's burden. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10131110863711181422013-10-30T18:04:50.889-04:002013-10-30T18:04:50.889-04:00And let's not forget those four minutes.And let's not forget those four minutes. trayvon zimmermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73846824511201739102013-10-30T17:22:40.739-04:002013-10-30T17:22:40.739-04:00I think that you've honestly expressed a commo...I think that you've honestly expressed a common visceral reaction we have to the notion of loving your enemies.<br /><br />C.S. Lewsis described this sort of unmerited love as a burden we neither wish to give or to receive.<br /><br />Yet I think we instinctively understand the importance of holding on to some sort of hope and optimism for each other. Societies can't function in a climate where there is no will toward the benefit of the doubt. Even when that ground is a sort of polite fiction.<br /><br />The philosophy of The Great Souls is not one of tolerating evil. It not about pretending that terrorists are good people too, so we must speak of a Bin Laden as we might some hard-knock adolescent headed to detention.<br /><br />What it IS is a firm belief in "the good". Malala believes that most people wish their daughters to have every opportunity in life, and that this seed of goodness can be appealed to, encouraged, argued for, with an optimism that extends beyond her fundamentalist neighbors, to the guys carrying guns.<br /><br />Without that belief, there's no where to go. There's just enmity and contempt, starting with the obnoxious senator to the guy with the obnoxious bumper sticker.<br /><br />There are plenty of real reasons to be a Ted Cruz critic. Plenty of reasonable arguments to launch against his ideas and also against his actions. To condone, for one second, the tactics of Matthews and company is a dangerous thing. It's corrupting. It really does turn us into "ignorant armies" clashing by night.<br /><br />It is not in conflict with The Great Souls to point this out and to also argue that you AND your philosophical opponents are better than that.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37375595927072854962013-10-30T16:50:12.836-04:002013-10-30T16:50:12.836-04:00That is certainly a rosy scenario.
I have no doub...That is certainly a rosy scenario.<br /><br />I have no doubt that a President Gore would have acted on the intelligence report "Bin Laden Determined to Strike", but to say that he would have definitely prevented 9/11? That's kind of a reach.<br /><br />And so is saying that he would have prevented Katrina and Sandy, and all the weather-based catastrophes that occurred in the eight years between 2001-09. Certainly, President Gore would have made much more progress in building the infrastructure necessary for the production and distribution of renewable sources of energy. But the horse was already well out of the barn by 2001, and to say he would have definitely prevented hurricanes and other natural disasters is foolish.<br /><br />As for "avoiding girdlock in congress", how? He would have gone into office with a GOP House and Senate. And if you can guarantee that he would have sidestepped the electoral catastrophe of an "angry white man" backlash that both Clinton and Obama suffered two years into their presidencies, he would have been facing solid GOP majorities in both houses of Congress for his entire two terms in office.<br /><br />Yes, I do agree that the election of 2000 was a catastrophe. But let's not get too carried away, shall we?<br /><br />And Bob's "obsession" is with his narrative that the catastrophe happened because the likes of Chris Matthews and Maureen Dowd said mean things about Gore.<br /><br />Which is ridiculously silly, and why he couldn't get any serious publisher to pick up the option on the book he was writing -- and still hasn't finished.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10798730508698631632013-10-30T16:37:11.020-04:002013-10-30T16:37:11.020-04:00Anonymous October 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM & 3:07 ...Anonymous October 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM & 3:07 PM:<br /><br />Please leave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83090851989183673502013-10-30T16:34:53.487-04:002013-10-30T16:34:53.487-04:00Jeeves Stump,
It's "Gandhi," not &q...Jeeves Stump,<br /><br />It's "Gandhi," not "Ghandi." And the former was utterly consistent in embracing non-violence. He wrote early in the World War II, that the British should stop making war against Germany, and he advised Jews to meet the Nazis without resistance even if that meant collective suicide.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72638986028316446922013-10-30T16:33:51.140-04:002013-10-30T16:33:51.140-04:00Anonymous October 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM & 2:07 P...Anonymous October 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM & 2:07 Pm:<br /><br />Leave now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50319198509470269722013-10-30T16:32:19.044-04:002013-10-30T16:32:19.044-04:00Again, in his rush to advance his narrative that &...Again, in his rush to advance his narrative that "liberals" throw around the R-word merely to advance their moral superiority, Bob and his minions missed the true significance of the rodeo clown episode.<br /><br />This was all launched, not by mainstream media, but by a pretty average guy with a Smartphone and a Facebook account. Before the sun came up the next morning, it had gone viral. Before lunch, politicians from both political parties in Missouri had weighed in, calling the performance disrepectful.<br /><br />The Missouri Rodeo Association reacted, banning the clown from future gigs at the state (read, taxpayer-funded) fair.<br /><br />Only after that, did the first mention of the incident appear in a "mainstream media outlet" -- the Web site of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. <br /><br />One might ask how this story went viral, long before it was reported by any mainstream media outlet. That is, if one were interested in more than advancing his own narrative.<br /><br />And incidentally, Bob himself waited three more days, when the rightwing backlash was in full bloom, and dutifully typed up ever right-wing talking point. Without, of course, acknowledging the source.<br /><br />And which you now dutifully regurgitate.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34533299964293577862013-10-30T16:26:01.398-04:002013-10-30T16:26:01.398-04:00i have no link to above. can be found thru librar...i have no link to above. can be found thru libraries who subscribe to jstor database.an american who happens to have irish-catholic heritagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31590442456096260942013-10-30T15:47:05.325-04:002013-10-30T15:47:05.325-04:00note particularly the last sentence of the last pa...note particularly the last sentence of the last paragraph of this quote in the last paragraph from page 96 of annual review of sociology, volume 5, 1979:<br /><br />“Irish Catholics, incidentally, are the most politically liberal Gentile ethnic group in the country; they are the most pro-integration of any Gentile group.”<br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />from page 96 of annual review of sociology, volume 5,1979:<br /><br />Four NORC articles monitoring racial integration (Hyman & Sheatsley 1964; Greeley & Sheatsley 1971; Greeley & Sheatsley 1974; Taylor, Sheatsley & Greeley 1978) have demonstrated that Catholics are more likely to support racial integration than other white groups, even outside the South. Taylor, Sheatsley & Greeley (1978) could find no evidence of the alleged white ethnic backlash against racial integration. They also found that Irish, German, and Italian Catholics outside the South continued to be above the Anglo-Saxon Protestant average in their support for racial integration. Indeed, Irish Catholics were even more likely than Jews to be willing to accept for their children a school where most of the students were black. More than 70% of the Catholic parents in the country, according to Greeley, McCready & McCourt (1976), report their children are in integrated schools. A positive correlation exists between Catholic school attendance and support for racial integration, as well as opposition to anti-Semitism. <br /><br />Reviewing the present state of the literature, Greeley (1978b) concluded that on the average Catholics remain where they were a quarter of a century ago-slightly to the left of center in the Democratic coalition, less leftist on most issues than blacks and Jews but more leftist than white Protestants, even white Protestants of the North who describe themselves as Democrats. Nie, Petrocik & Verba (1976) reported the same findings. <br /><br />In summary, despite conviction to the contrary in many quarters, Catholics continue to be moderate Democrats; more strongly than other than other Democrats and other white northern Americans, they support racial integra-tion. Irish Catholics, incidentally, are the most politically liberal Gentile ethnic group in the country; they are the most pro-integration of any Gentile group.an american who happens to have irish-catholic heritagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25164293305827306102013-10-30T15:43:07.465-04:002013-10-30T15:43:07.465-04:00without the huge numbers of americans of irish cat...without the huge numbers of americans of irish catholic heritage and irish immigrants the nnorth might not have won the war. <br /><br /> an american who happens to have irish-catholic heritagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79132221527327568042013-10-30T15:27:04.742-04:002013-10-30T15:27:04.742-04:00As I recall, Somerby objected to blowing that inci...As I recall, Somerby objected to blowing that incident up into a charge of racism (thereby losing the clown his job) when Obama was being treated the same way as previous presidents had been, including Bush and Clinton. Inclusion of Obama's middle name was gratuitous, but it didn't justify the overblown response, and that was Somerby's point. <br /><br />Do you think the clown should have been fired because the rodeo announcer made some lame jokes about Obama? Do you think the description of the event posted on the internet was supported by what occurred on the video? I don't. Cannot Somerby make that point without you thinking he is condoning racism? Are you incapable of nuanced thought?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50833257155797953622013-10-30T15:19:14.890-04:002013-10-30T15:19:14.890-04:00That 'republican' strategy is simply divid...That 'republican' strategy is simply divide and conquer. We can oppose it, or we can help them along with it, dividing the have-nots hopelessly into warring tribes that never get anything accomplished, perhaps someday finally ending in outright war.Matt in the Crownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02083162679471045642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27761664901816342692013-10-30T15:16:55.037-04:002013-10-30T15:16:55.037-04:00Checked comments today to see a bunch of crazy Iri...Checked comments today to see a bunch of crazy Irish Guy posts.<br /><br />Was not disappointed.Matt in the Crownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02083162679471045642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75530450047892234402013-10-30T15:12:59.097-04:002013-10-30T15:12:59.097-04:00lying sockpuppetlying sockpuppetAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59438649658081070422013-10-30T15:07:42.876-04:002013-10-30T15:07:42.876-04:00liarliarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60495619835874145152013-10-30T15:07:09.676-04:002013-10-30T15:07:09.676-04:00Why do you not capitalize any of the words in your...Why do you not capitalize any of the words in your sentences? Probably because you are lower case guy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com