tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4053232681251749594..comments2024-03-28T20:15:15.164-04:00Comments on the daily howler: USING OUR WORDS: Wisely declining to "call lies 'lies!'"<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24985143401717581192020-10-07T05:54:01.811-04:002020-10-07T05:54:01.811-04:00Thanks for this article.. visit Swiss Chalet cust...Thanks for this article.. visit <a href="https://customersurveys.onl/swiss-chalet-feedback-survey/" rel="nofollow">Swiss Chalet customer satisfaction survey</a> takes only a few minutes to complete and you require to share your feelings regarding your most recent experience...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03846754047984791894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17014553833439646962018-08-12T21:07:51.207-04:002018-08-12T21:07:51.207-04:00BROKEN HEART MADE WHOLE AGAIN.....!!!!!!!!
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Same as t..."What does LGBT mean to you?"<br /><br />Same as to every one else, I suppose: four letters, associated with some mildly annoying liberal-establishment bullshit no one cares about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79056735812220921662017-07-28T16:32:55.985-04:002017-07-28T16:32:55.985-04:00"Indeed, those meaningless, focus-group-teste..."Indeed, those meaningless, focus-group-tested, lawyers approved, and designed to mislead, with 'plausible deniability' statements that you call 'distinguished' are usually the real - professional - lies. <br /><br />People are tired of bullshit, endless Orwellian bullshit."<br />Lol, so rube tested, Limpball, Insanity, Freitfart, Faux News approved bullshit (designed to mislead!) is ok then? You must be Dave in Cal's friend. You won't convince anyone of here of your nonsense. Why don't you go back to the swamp.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64195452067974120402017-07-28T11:56:14.023-04:002017-07-28T11:56:14.023-04:00I have a fundamental difference with Bob on this. ...I have a fundamental difference with Bob on this. Being intentionally misleading is lying. In fact, that's the basically the second listing for "lie" at dictionary.com -- "something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture". And it's usually pretty easy to tell that someone is being purposely misleading or evasive. This kind of hair splitting lets dishonest people off the hook. Even in my small town, we had a group of people opposing a land development project. They never technically said or wrote anything untrue. But they left out enough information and worded things in such a way that they convinced many people that the project was going to be much larger than it was. We need to hold people to a higher standard in public statements than simply "technically true." Sometimes wildly misleading statements are "technically true."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36708579914222875782017-07-28T11:53:16.532-04:002017-07-28T11:53:16.532-04:00We're back to the age-old question: Are Conser...We're back to the age-old question: Are Conservatives liars, or just too ignorant of the truth to know what it is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62617668510817386212017-07-28T11:44:46.639-04:002017-07-28T11:44:46.639-04:00Heh Enter Trumps newest nic...STRETCH!Heh Enter Trumps newest nic...STRETCH!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26966902460851803742017-07-28T10:48:02.615-04:002017-07-28T10:48:02.615-04:00We are living in times of PR technologies, when sm...We are living in times of PR technologies, when smooth-talking is associated (and for a very good reason) with telling lies. <br /><br />Indeed, those meaningless, focus-group-tested, lawyers approved, and designed to mislead, with 'plausible deniability' statements that you call 'distinguished' are usually the real - professional - lies. <br /><br />People are tired of bullshit, endless Orwellian bullshit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73954173761309712592017-07-28T09:48:54.751-04:002017-07-28T09:48:54.751-04:00I am not sure if intent is the first or best way t...I am not sure if intent is the first or best way to determine a lie. I think it should simply be if the supposed liar knows they are saying something that is not true regardless of why they say it.I agree it would still be tricky to be sure the person knows they are not being truthful. A white lie has intent but is still a lie. I don't get why intent has anything to do with it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00812216638653319170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46435048620974531082017-07-28T09:45:07.137-04:002017-07-28T09:45:07.137-04:00I haven't visited this site in a long time but...I haven't visited this site in a long time but I've never forgotten Bob's justified tirade about so many in the media, both liberal and conservative,being lazy and following the "script". Even if I agree with the opinion of a reporter I am constantly reading what seems to be the agreed upon "take" on so many events that are signs of laziness when I wish I could learn something that I don't learn from headlines or the first few minutes of a news broadcast.I should expand my reading habit perhaps and search for the better writers and reporters.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00812216638653319170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57728755160825768002017-07-28T09:38:25.583-04:002017-07-28T09:38:25.583-04:00I disagree about the smear campaign
comment but T...I disagree about the smear campaign<br /> comment but Trump does speak poorly like so many of us do.I think a president should represent 320 million americans in a more distinguished manner Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00812216638653319170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85222832578276409722017-07-28T01:31:17.239-04:002017-07-28T01:31:17.239-04:00What does LGBT mean to you?
Why are you even here...What does LGBT mean to you?<br /><br />Why are you even here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66659663732504054382017-07-27T23:45:17.073-04:002017-07-27T23:45:17.073-04:00As long as Wall Street isn't the establishment...As long as Wall Street isn't the establishment, Mao.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73558675966671025042017-07-27T23:43:24.344-04:002017-07-27T23:43:24.344-04:00And minorities, Mao. Don't forget how much he...And minorities, Mao. Don't forget how much he scares minorities. too.<br /><br />Oops, i now see you did notice this by your, "Tremendous accomplishment, as far as I'm concerned" quote.<br />My bad. Carry on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45043284043520536092017-07-27T23:40:29.547-04:002017-07-27T23:40:29.547-04:00Nope. Wrong. Trump is a sack of feces. Unfit to se...Nope. Wrong. Trump is a sack of feces. Unfit to serve as bathroom attendant anywhere in the world. And that's what everyone knows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57964669092007913382017-07-27T22:10:43.745-04:002017-07-27T22:10:43.745-04:00I certainly haven't seen any pressident scarin...I certainly haven't seen any pressident scaring the fucking establishment mafia like this one is. Tremendous accomplishment, as far as I'm concerned. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6438448186374852112017-07-27T22:06:23.492-04:002017-07-27T22:06:23.492-04:00You should definitely join, Anon. Be all you can b...You should definitely join, Anon. Be all you can be, and, perhaps, even learn about the difference between 'gay' and 'transgender'...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4166371406728219142017-07-27T22:00:47.999-04:002017-07-27T22:00:47.999-04:00Trump is fine, the guy speaks the way ordinary peo...Trump is fine, the guy speaks the way ordinary people do. Which surely is preferable to the typical robotic focus-group-tested politician-speak. And the establishment media are running a smear campaign, and a witch hunt. And that's all there is to it, and everyone in (as well as outside) the country knows it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-542006764383986442017-07-27T20:15:29.072-04:002017-07-27T20:15:29.072-04:00Don't be an ass. The military is a gateway to ...Don't be an ass. The military is a gateway to training and education and even citizenship for less privileged young people. See the world, be all you can be, is literal for them. Denying thmose opportunities to kids who are gay is wrong. Trump is not thinking about them or their best interests when he does a stunt like this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88653236171791033882017-07-27T19:47:20.285-04:002017-07-27T19:47:20.285-04:00Bob does not intend to lie to us about Trump. He ...Bob does not intend to lie to us about Trump. He sincerely believes liberal media personalities are<br />to blame for him being President. And that their hefty salaries hsve caused them to stray.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68164728670935877722017-07-27T19:40:27.084-04:002017-07-27T19:40:27.084-04:00Re: "I am going to protect the LGBT community...Re: "I am going to protect the LGBT community."<br /><br />I think back to all I did to avoid being drafted and sent to Vietnam. Prohibiting a certain group of people from serving in the military IS a way of protecting them.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61845853274231549622017-07-27T17:32:54.332-04:002017-07-27T17:32:54.332-04:00It is a fact that Trump is a liar. Journalists are...It is a fact that Trump is a liar. Journalists are in the business of stating facts, not splitting hairs.Corbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7282641734743902562017-07-27T15:51:09.487-04:002017-07-27T15:51:09.487-04:00But now we're in the guilt/not guilty territor...But now we're in the guilt/not guilty territory - as every jury knows, there is no legal declaration of "innocence", there's just the notion that guilt can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. <br />I'd suggest that the reasonable doubt principle should apply to lying as well. At this point, (and even many of Trump's most fervent supporters agree on this--they just don't care) Trump's untruthful utterances must be called lies because he contradicts HIMSELF so often; in other words, when he denies having said something AFTER hearing the tape, he is lying. With Trump, intent means nothing, because his intentions are constantly shifting and reshaping themselves given a moment's expediency. And to hew to some anal retentive notion that we all must cease to use the one word that describes a pattern of egregious behavior so prevalent today is the perfect example of foolish consistency. <br />It reminds me of the debate I had many years ago with my long dead grandmother concerning the nominative case - she insisted that one should never enter a room and identify oneself with "it's me" - but that grammar must be served. Only "It is I" would suffice. I offered that if I walked into my college classroom announcing, "It is I" everyone in the room, including the professor, would howl with laughter. sherrlockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08689553678430736101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39985441211062010202017-07-27T14:56:04.703-04:002017-07-27T14:56:04.703-04:00Exactly. This is why it's a sinkhole for repor...Exactly. This is why it's a sinkhole for reporters in particular and the rest of us in general to jump so quick to label them lies. He may have intent but how can we prove it? He also may be crazy or apathetic ie not really lying but just off his ducking rocker. Why not stick with what we know? They are bogus, untrue statements. Prick Baxternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61126132411696613582017-07-27T14:30:55.036-04:002017-07-27T14:30:55.036-04:00Once again, Bob explores the mare's nest. Yeah...Once again, Bob explores the mare's nest. Yeah, yeah, intent makes the lie. Problem is, that's a nearly impossible standard by which measure virtually no one has ever lied at any time in human history. <br /><br />Thus all lies become deniable unless the liar admits bad intent. And how often do liars confess to bad intent? <br /><br />Hitler's Ghost: "I never lied to you about Jews drinking the blood of gentile children - because I believed it quite sincerely!"<br /><br />Spirit of Charles Ponzi: "I never lied about your investment; at the time, I truly believed it just might work!"<br /><br />Tricky Dick: "I am not a crook. And I believe that with all my heart."<br /><br />Down the rabbit hole we go - intent can never be proven, thus no one who hasn't admitted bad intent can EVER be framed a liar. Seriously, what other conclusion can be drawn? Although, let me add a personal qualification and suggestion: if it walks, swims, and quacks like a duck....<br /><br />sherrlockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08689553678430736101noreply@blogger.com