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It's almost as if its primary purpose was virtue signaling...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34808815176413878982018-12-08T05:05:26.902-05:002018-12-08T05:05:26.902-05:00Which logician does Bob hope to see on MSNBC in pl...Which logician does Bob hope to see on MSNBC in place of Rachel?Gloucon Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05218027862578514587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80125915068890247812018-12-07T20:10:28.006-05:002018-12-07T20:10:28.006-05:00“But that does not explain the complaint of Russel...“But that does not explain the complaint of Russell.”<br /><br />Which complaint of Russell? Apparently Russell accepted Wittgenstein’s dissertation.<br /><br />I myself think Wittgenstein was just a slow thinker. He was right the first time. If philosophy can be defined as figuring out how to maximize well-being for everyone, including the “non-sentient” inhabitants of this planet – seemingly missing from Wittgenstein’s work – then philosophy really is dead, unless it informs human solidarity, not just within the human realm, but the entire natural world.<br /><br />Philosophy ended with the advent of humanism:<br /><br />“(secular) Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives. It stands for the building of a more humane society through an ethic based on human and other natural values in the spirit of reason and free inquiry through human capabilities. It is not theistic, and it does not accept supernatural views of reality.”<br /><br />The only thing next to do is to figure out how to implement these ideas. And they won’t be philosophical, but political, if they’re ever implemented at all. Every time we take a step forward, capitalists and religionists take us two steps back.<br /><br />Philosophy will plod along, until it realizes that philosophy is unimportant, except to the extent that it informs us that there is nothing but us to decide our fate, as a species, and as caretakers of the planet we inhabit, for our own good.<br /><br />Leroy<br />Leroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02021120389394278239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7239069009374051152018-12-07T16:45:35.530-05:002018-12-07T16:45:35.530-05:00I decided to see what Kung had said about Wittgens...I decided to see what Kung had said about Wittgenstein. He makes the early Wittgenstein sound a lot like the later Wittgenstein.<br /><br />The early book, he wrote "defended the thesis that only propositions of mathematics and logic, together with those of the empirical sciences, can be meaningful: propositions that go beyond these must be described a priori as senseless." (p. 93)<br /><br />According to the first work, then, the work of philosophers is nonsense. Nothing meaningful can be said about ethics or metaphysics or theology. Other than the branch of logic, all philosophy is meaningless.<br /><br />Rather than rejecting his earlier work, he may have just refined it. But that does not explain the complaint of Russell. Dr. Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19315492885646304642018-12-07T13:10:17.567-05:002018-12-07T13:10:17.567-05:00As with Gödel, so with Wittgenstein. Somerby uses ...As with Gödel, so with Wittgenstein. Somerby uses Kenny’s description and paraphrase of the “early” Wittgenstein as a stand-in for Somerby actually examining the early Wittgenstein himself. It is like pretending to discuss Shakespeare by only discussing reviewers or critics of Shakespeare. Critic A says “Hamlet is about x”. Blogger uses critic A’s statement to wonder if or prove that Hamlet is about x. And there is Hamlet, sitting there unread by Blogger. <br /><br />Does Somerby understand the early Wittgenstein? If not, does that mean that no one understands it?<br /><br />And Somerby is inclined, by his own nature or prejudices, to reject the early Wittgenstein and approve the “later.” Well, then perhaps Somerby should have imitated Wittgenstein back at Harvard and left the field of philosophy, rather than majoring in a subject he obviously despises. At any rate, such a deep-seated anti-philosophy bias, whatever its origin, isn’t likely to lead one to conduct a fair discussion on the subject. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25103529276513854652018-12-07T12:36:41.366-05:002018-12-07T12:36:41.366-05:00There is a difference between a text being "u...There is a difference between a text being "uncommonly difficult to understand" and saying that "no one can understand or paraphrase" it. Somerby takes Kenny's statement and exaggerates it for his own purposes -- to make philosophers sound stupid.<br /><br />Somerby also confuses the aping of Wittgenstein's eccentricity with approval of his writing. Kenny suggests that Wittgenstein left academia because he was finished with his major work, not because he was depressed and despaired of accomplishing his own goals. He reportedly left teaching because he hit his students when they didn't understand his teaching. He gave away his money to his siblings, not to strangers.<br />But Wittgenstein's tragedies are Somerby's stick to beat academia with. His purpose is to make academics look foolish, not to talk about logic or about Wittgenstein's contribution to philosophy.<br /><br />And then he blames those academics for our current suffering under Trump, someone who was elected to office by a bunch of people who should have known better, who Somerby will never criticize. The idiots who actually put Trump into office will never be blamed by Somerby. <br /><br />What is wrong with Somerby? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35595238644196383452018-12-07T12:22:06.634-05:002018-12-07T12:22:06.634-05:00"Where have all the logicians been as we'..."Where have all the logicians been as we've slid into the era of Trump? "<br /><br />Donald The Super-Logical is the Greatest Logician evah, Bob. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com