tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4241229709336560047..comments2024-03-19T08:42:30.893-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE CALIBER OF OUR OWN DISCOURSE: Eric Holder limns Officer Wilson!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger143125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51175283329354267092015-03-08T11:37:17.950-04:002015-03-08T11:37:17.950-04:00There was no acting in poor judgment on Officer Wi...There was no acting in poor judgment on Officer Wilson's part. You are suffering from classic, low IQ outcome bias, which allows you to look at an outcome of a killing and then decide what Officer Wilson "should have done to avoid a killing" such as drive away. Except we don't want officers to drive away from violent criminals. We pay them not to. Officer Wilson did nothing wrong at any point, and was the victim of a racist lynch mob.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36494761150040820912015-03-07T12:37:03.980-05:002015-03-07T12:37:03.980-05:00Yup. Acting in poor judgement on both sides.
The...Yup. Acting in poor judgement on both sides. <br />The difference, of course, is the teen paid for his actions in poor judgement with his life, while the acting in poor judgement by the cop led to him being crowd-funded by bigots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84025080738994022412015-03-07T01:25:44.544-05:002015-03-07T01:25:44.544-05:00Everyone, except Chief Justice Roberts, could have...Everyone, except Chief Justice Roberts, could have figured that out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58139624643725845662015-03-06T15:15:52.726-05:002015-03-06T15:15:52.726-05:00Does anyone agree that Brown punching a cop and tr...Does anyone agree that Brown punching a cop and trying to wrestle his gun away causing it to fire, or strong arm robbing a store cleck was acting in poor judgement?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54026009139961039312015-03-06T14:04:16.279-05:002015-03-06T14:04:16.279-05:00I read the report on Ferguson.
I'm so tired ...I read the report on Ferguson. <br />I'm so tired of these thugs getting away with this shit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83576269748563492542015-03-06T13:46:54.181-05:002015-03-06T13:46:54.181-05:00400 911 calls in one neighborhood in one year?! So...400 911 calls in one neighborhood in one year?! Sounds like that community has experienced a thug infestation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57520940373087063272015-03-06T13:26:57.659-05:002015-03-06T13:26:57.659-05:00Officer Wilson should have stayed in his car and w...Officer Wilson should have stayed in his car and waited for back-up. Instead, he got out of his car to chase a kid that could kill him with one punch. <br />Officer Wilson wasn't hired for his smarts He was hired to keep black people in their place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75199855980592880932015-03-06T13:19:35.923-05:002015-03-06T13:19:35.923-05:00Extra, extra -- bigot(s) found in the South!!!
An...Extra, extra -- bigot(s) found in the South!!!<br /><br />And on TDH!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30535270244643644032015-03-06T13:17:51.061-05:002015-03-06T13:17:51.061-05:00There's always room for nuance for whitey, huh...There's always room for nuance for whitey, huh?<br /><br />Also, according to the rules of the Ferguson debate, you can't defend the police because they have't been shown to be complete angels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73897193577201936282015-03-06T13:17:02.509-05:002015-03-06T13:17:02.509-05:00But what chance does a 6-4 cop have against Super ...But what chance does a 6-4 cop have against Super Black Kid?<br /><br />Why we should just go ahead and shoot them all. After all, they're all going to beat up some white person sooner or later. Probably sooner. We know what "thugs" they all are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40840050182594276662015-03-06T13:13:32.815-05:002015-03-06T13:13:32.815-05:00Anonymous @ 2:19 AM offered an interesting thought...Anonymous @ 2:19 AM offered an interesting thought:<br /><br />"According to the Holder Justice Dept, Somerby has been proven correct, it's time for the critics to swallow their pride and admit as much."<br /><br />Is that what has happened? We don't know. In the words of the "proven correct" blogger himself in this post: <br /><br />"We still can’t exactly tell you. We weren’t on the scene that day. No videotape has emerged."<br /><br />"Is that what happened? We can't tell you!"<br /><br />"Who knows?" <br /><br />"We have no way to answer that."<br /><br />Did the Justice Department prove Somerby correct? Perhaps, but I am not sure from the comment what it was that Mr. Somerby was correct about. <br /><br />I could be wrong, but based on the New York Times excerpts here in this post, it seems like the Justice Department concluded they did not have a credible case to prove against Officer Wilson. I'd have to read the whole report to see if they found credible evidence to prove something about blogger Somerby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50866411807573875532015-03-06T13:12:30.896-05:002015-03-06T13:12:30.896-05:00Yes, Officer Wilson should have gotten out of his ...Yes, Officer Wilson should have gotten out of his car, taken off his holster and squared off with Brown in the middle of the street in order to prove who was tougher LOL. Brown had already proven his toughness moments earlier by roughing up a store clerk half his size. <br /><br />This is a rather typical example of the kind of lowlife ghetto/prison mentality that has infected so many neighborhoods and communities across this country. Brutalize the weak and vulnerable and take whatever your size allows you to take. A real "code" to live by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79437637783655538352015-03-06T12:54:10.491-05:002015-03-06T12:54:10.491-05:00I was looking forward to more on professors and Ar...I was looking forward to more on professors and Arquette.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8334608814856400322015-03-06T12:26:25.100-05:002015-03-06T12:26:25.100-05:00@ 11:37 expounds upon a theory advanced by Drudge ...@ 11:37 expounds upon a theory advanced by Drudge and Limbaugh that requires one to substitute the words "queer ass" for "creepy."<br /><br />@ 11:51 restates a widely reported, but disputed, interpretation of the Zimmmerman police call call which, even if true, cannot materially change the ultimate mistake Zimmerman made by getting out of his vehicle, following Martin with a loaded gun in his pants, and not heeding the advice of the dispatcher to return to his vehicle.<br /><br />I find it astounding that some who defend Zimmerman constantly refer to the time in which Martin did not flee to his father's girlfriend's home constantly ignore that Zimmerman likewise did not return to his vehicle during the exact same time frame. <br /><br />In their mindset, the fact that Martin did not go home is evidence he ambushed Zimmerman. The guy with the loaded gun stalking a teenager in contravention of his training and immediate advice of law enforcement bears no responsibility whatsoever. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48038774330446303312015-03-06T12:23:56.901-05:002015-03-06T12:23:56.901-05:00Excellent sockpuppet.Excellent sockpuppet.Richard Spencernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50659519665669115862015-03-06T12:23:14.719-05:002015-03-06T12:23:14.719-05:00Yes, we all know how even 6-4 cops, supposedly in ...Yes, we all know how even 6-4 cops, supposedly in shape, are absolutely no match for Super Black Kid who are disproportionately successful in kicking butt because they possess Super Human Black Strength!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74066696255432943022015-03-06T12:14:54.486-05:002015-03-06T12:14:54.486-05:00I'll repeat what I said below. The witnesses ...I'll repeat what I said below. The witnesses whose testimony was deemed credible and who came forward with information which backed up Wilson were all black. The witnesses shown in the CNN video were white. Their testimony was deemed not credible.<br /><br />I didn't get this information from the New York Times because Somerby has taught everyone they cannot be trusted. I got it from reading the report of Eric Holder's Justice Department.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64315356724996231122015-03-06T12:09:56.908-05:002015-03-06T12:09:56.908-05:00You do know, of course, that the witnesses who cam...You do know, of course, that the witnesses who came forward and provdided the information which backed up Officer Wilson were black.<br /><br />On the other hand the witnesses shown in the CNN video linked right above your comment, were in the street in the street and videotaped where and when the shooting happened. They said Brown had his hands up and was surrendering. They were white.<br /><br />You know this because you read the report, right?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4780885962803626002015-03-06T12:07:42.003-05:002015-03-06T12:07:42.003-05:00What are the name of these alleged witnesses so I ...What are the name of these alleged witnesses so I can review what they said afterward in court under oath?<br /><br />Secondly, did you not read the NYT article citing a black woman who was afraid of speaking in favor of Wilson?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47453446427749834482015-03-06T11:59:50.445-05:002015-03-06T11:59:50.445-05:0012:02 that is the long and the short of it. No on...12:02 that is the long and the short of it. No one taught Trayvon to stay in school and not take every opportunity to violently attack gay short white men who "dis" him. Mama and Papa tragically behave as if they are absolved of culpability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62901344701872309252015-03-06T11:51:24.818-05:002015-03-06T11:51:24.818-05:00No unarmed black kids died in these events. One w...No unarmed black kids died in these events. One was armed with size and strength and rage threatening to render officer Wilson an "unarmed police officer" and the other was armed with fists and rage that enabled him to beat his victim's head into concrete. Unarmed is a low IQ buzzword meaning nothing substantive except to those with low IQs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48309927182733292232015-03-06T11:50:43.736-05:002015-03-06T11:50:43.736-05:00Anecdotre + anecdote = statistic
The statistics d...Anecdotre + anecdote = statistic<br /><br />The statistics don't paint the same picture as the anecdotes.<br /><br />1. Ferguson is now closer to 77% black than 65% (at the last census in 2010).<br />2. Drivers are not only from Ferguson but from nearby suburbs which are predominantly black, such as Berkeley which is 88% black.<br />3. Poverty is a complicating factor confounded with race. Police argue that poverty not race causes people to become more of a focus of police intervention. The report does not address this.<br />4. Anecdotes do not present the police testimony about the incidents. There are two sides to a story. An anecdote about Brown would have excluded the facts that caused the Grand Jury not to bring charges against Wilson. Who knows what similar contextual details might have existed for each of those anecdotes, told only from the black person's point of view. You assume there is nothing self-serving about the anecdotes but there nearly always is in such complaints.<br /><br />You just don't see any shades of gray, but you blame me for being blinded by ideology. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52553321726278111392015-03-06T11:47:41.318-05:002015-03-06T11:47:41.318-05:00It was witnesses like this who helped provoke comm...It was witnesses like this who helped provoke community reaction, which was fueled by years of living with the "patterns and practices" of the police covered in the Justice Department report Somerby chose to skip for this post.<br /><br />What helped make this a national story was the community uprising. In the context of that, reporters flooded in and more events happened and more stories got told and reported, accurate and inaccurate alike.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4818779840522504252015-03-06T11:33:52.126-05:002015-03-06T11:33:52.126-05:00Tragic and frightening is the relish with which th...Tragic and frightening is the relish with which the left put these men through pain. The ignorant lynch mob mentality, all because the color of their skin means their right to defend themselves doesn't exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16642286054490950012015-03-06T11:05:01.155-05:002015-03-06T11:05:01.155-05:00I'm sure you're being ironic "10:40&q...I'm sure you're being ironic "10:40", because the video shows two stunned out-of-town maintenance guys who in real time see the shooting and immediately echo Brown's words and one even raises his hands to demonstrate "he was like this"Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17516065349693480312noreply@blogger.com