tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4388954259525913451..comments2024-03-19T06:13:08.345-04:00Comments on the daily howler: WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE: Those People are a lot like Us!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86498404666718448962017-03-30T11:36:33.317-04:002017-03-30T11:36:33.317-04:00My condolences, for you having to be in the same r...My condolences, for you having to be in the same room as that piece of shit.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363187757246791754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21074553101189354782017-03-30T10:13:54.861-04:002017-03-30T10:13:54.861-04:00I worked with Hannity sharing the same studio with...I worked with Hannity sharing the same studio with him for 3 and a a half years. I even filled in for him on radio at times. Before the Iraq War a caller tried to explain that after the gassing of Kurds at Halabja there was a strange legislative coalition of Pell, Gore and Thurmond to curtail the sale of dual use assets to Iraq that could have contributed to the Iraqi gas attack. And that Reagan and Bush quashed the effort. Hannity berated the caller, asked for his sources and claimed it was leftist propaganda before talking over him and hanging up. When Hannity took a commercial break I told him "Sean, the caller was correct. I have the news articles right here if you want to read them. You might be able to come up with an effective reply to counter him. Here is UPI, Reuters, AP" Hannity laughed out loud and wave his hand saying "Keep that stuff away from me! I don't want to see ANYTHING that doesn't support my argument."Booky301https://www.blogger.com/profile/13275526360161067882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84272031137682071932017-03-30T04:54:19.343-04:002017-03-30T04:54:19.343-04:00Felt good to write that didn't it? And it was...Felt good to write that didn't it? And it was easy too. Didn't have explain anything, justify any claims or really think at all about what you said - instead just drop the bomb and it solved it the problem. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31548039293329618062017-03-29T13:22:07.013-04:002017-03-29T13:22:07.013-04:004:16 PM,
Agreed. It may be hard to prove that Con...4:16 PM,<br />Agreed. It may be hard to prove that Conservatives are racists, but way too easy to prove they're stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85362169547918694492017-03-29T04:16:44.137-04:002017-03-29T04:16:44.137-04:00I would not call that out as racism - a serious ch...I would not call that out as racism - a serious charge, hard to prove. Call it what it clearly is and easily proven ... stupid. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87813196810546637292017-03-28T23:02:59.246-04:002017-03-28T23:02:59.246-04:00My name is Mary Silva, I just split up with my boy...My name is Mary Silva, I just split up with my boyfriend of 7 years. We were great together, completely in love and talked about marriage and growing old together, we traveled the world together, everyone knows us as a perfect couple, we never fought always laughed together… however the last 2 years have been very difficult. We have been living together for over 5 years but the last 2 years have been a stressful living situation as I had to take in a friend that was in need. I also started my own business which kept me extremely busy. I am completely devastated, hurt, lost and just want him back. I love him completely. We had a few discussions before he left about trying to work things out, and he felt I took him for granted…I had stopped treating him with appreciation and love. I agreed that I have to be more romantic and be an equal partner in the relationship. Over the course of the following days I showed him love and appreciation, treated him like I had done in the past however he still wanted out. he said he needed time and space to figure out what he wants. I told him I would not give up on us but I would give him space that he wanted. he said he still loved me and care a lot about me but was just hurting.i was totally down because i need my man back one day a friend of my introduce me to a spell caster online who lift me up gave me hope and with-in two days after his spell my man who told me he needed space, call me and come back home to me i must say today we are happily married not only married but have two lovely kids all thanks to Dr happy a father and a real spell caster.<br /><br />Contact email address happylovespell2@gmail.com<br />Call and Whats-App him +2348133873774<br />Also contact and know more about his service at http://happyspelltemple.webs.com/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04811540532123827209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11505428625291444972017-03-28T20:01:55.031-04:002017-03-28T20:01:55.031-04:00That does not qualify. How would that qualify? That does not qualify. How would that qualify? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1893286935600470502017-03-28T18:41:34.639-04:002017-03-28T18:41:34.639-04:00Well according to RAND it is true in their study.
...Well according to RAND it is true in their study.<br /><br />"The licensure test is only significant in the separate CSET model, and there it has a negative sign (more subject matter knowledge is associated with slightly lower student achievement in reading)."<br /><br />Another example would be the healthcare industry where the marginal increase in quality from high standards for medical professionals is very small compared to the costs and labor shortages that the bottlenecks result in. A commonly suggested solution is to have Nurse Practitioners have more responsibility. That is "lowering standards" because they have significantly less education than a Doctor would but would have overall better results because there would be, theoretically, more in supply and lower costs and raise availability. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49010091208560751472017-03-28T18:07:57.224-04:002017-03-28T18:07:57.224-04:00When has that ever been true in any context?When has that ever been true in any context?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19546685390768042622017-03-28T17:42:47.258-04:002017-03-28T17:42:47.258-04:00Sometimes when I make the mistake of reading the c...Sometimes when I make the mistake of reading the comments here, I wonder what the commenters want. Why do they read this blog that they seem to hate so much?<br /><br />I read pretty much every day, and comment probably too much. Hard to come up with a summary of though. I sorta just read, and do not try to write a report of "what are his main points?"<br /><br />I think your list is a little bit off though, I would say it is more like this<br /><br />1. Our tribal belief in our own intelligence is not accurate and does not help our cause.<br />2. The left wing media brought to us by our corporate sponsors is not all that.<br />3. you say that like it is a bad thing<br />4. if we did that, wouldn't he be out of a job? I modify the old saying "Sell a man a fish and you can make a living. Teach him how to fish, and you just lost your job."<br /><br />Are these really trivial? The war on Gore was a trivial mistake? Deliberate selective editing is a "trivial mistake"?<br /><br />I think a large part of his point is to argue against the popular strain of tribal hatred that seems to be endemic these days.Dr. Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57620530958701032712017-03-28T17:21:43.632-04:002017-03-28T17:21:43.632-04:00He should be addressing his complaints to the Russ...He should be addressing his complaints to the Russians then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40690649691608229682017-03-28T16:33:58.263-04:002017-03-28T16:33:58.263-04:00Bob has told us that we liberals through the "...Bob has told us that we liberals through the "R" word around too much. We should be like MLK, says Bob, and only address racism when it is obvious. <br /><br /> On Fox and Friends this week Bill O"Reilly says he didn't hear a work Maxine Waters said because She had a James Brown Wig on. Ha! Would that qualify as racism that needs to be called out? <br /><br /> Opps, I forgot...."O"Reilly Gets a Pass!!' Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34540373852071126742017-03-28T16:15:19.508-04:002017-03-28T16:15:19.508-04:00"We'd be painfully slow to offer that ass..."We'd be painfully slow to offer that assessment." FTFY, Bob<br /><br />The internet is loaded with examples of how little our exceptional citizens know: Finding North America on a world map; naming a supreme court justice; naming one Ammendment to the Constitution; finding their ass with both hands, etc.Bartmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06809097953780642925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53599342480866953972017-03-28T16:13:03.904-04:002017-03-28T16:13:03.904-04:00"Teacher licensure tests have little effect o..."Teacher licensure tests have little effect on student achievement. None of the licensure<br />scores are significant in the joint reading specification. The licensure test is only significant in the<br />separate CSET model, and there it has a negative sign (more subject matter knowledge is<br />associated with slightly lower student achievement in reading). In the math models of Table 4.8,<br />the licensure scores are all insignificantly different from zero or have the wrong sign. The<br />separate specifications of CBEST and CSET show that test scores vary inversely with math<br />student achievement in the classroom."<br /><br />The results do compare high and lower scoring passers of the test and show little to no difference. Maybe the test measures the precise point where there is a cutoff for competency and student outcomes, where lowering the standards would be a negative consequence. <br /><br />I suspect we aren't very good at assessing ourselves and we'll have as good or better outcomes with lower standards. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2368440721483327532017-03-28T15:47:29.850-04:002017-03-28T15:47:29.850-04:00The flaw in your analysis is that all the teachers...The flaw in your analysis is that all the teachers studied had passed the exam, so the results mean that above the minimum threshold for licensure, differences in scores do not reflect differences in teaching quality. There is a restriction of range.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34344885058637040262017-03-28T15:02:50.626-04:002017-03-28T15:02:50.626-04:00I don't believe that ideology trumps fact, but...I don't believe that ideology trumps fact, but I believe cultural resentment does.Alan Snipeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05070460889011106908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83620189149527261022017-03-28T14:45:38.196-04:002017-03-28T14:45:38.196-04:00https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/...https://educationrealist.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/its-the-tests-zitbrains/<br /><br />The bottleneck to being a teacher is passing the license exam. As with most tests URM's score lower than whites and asians on average. The lower the standard the more URM's will be able to pass the test. <br /><br />"Teacher certification tests have gotten much, much harder for elementary school teachers, the primary source of URM teachers, since 2002 and No Child Left Behind, and the original certification tests (Praxis I and California’s CBEST) pre-2001, have sufficiently dismal URM pass rates without the added difficulty. In California, for example, elementary school teachers simply had to pass the CBEST before 2002. Now they have to pass the Multiple Subjects CSET as well."<br /><br />Lowering the standards is probably a good thing as a RAND report suggests little to no difference in outcomes based on teacher certification. <br /><br />http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reprints/2010/RAND_RP1410.pdf<br /><br />" The<br />results show large differences in teacher quality across the school district, but measured teacher<br />characteristics explain little of the difference. Teacher licensure test scores are unrelated to<br />teacher success in the classroom. Similarly, student achievement is unaffected by whether<br />classroom teachers have advanced degrees. Student achievement increases with teacher<br />experience, but the linkage is weak and largely reflects poor outcomes for teachers during their<br />first year or two in the classroom. "<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3252125165230483682017-03-28T14:29:49.976-04:002017-03-28T14:29:49.976-04:00Under represented doesn't mean under qualified...Under represented doesn't mean under qualified.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40434700058564904972017-03-28T14:14:50.995-04:002017-03-28T14:14:50.995-04:00Twist: Lowering standards is the only way to get m...Twist: Lowering standards is the only way to get more under represented minorities employed as teachers. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62389040035450562032017-03-28T14:02:43.211-04:002017-03-28T14:02:43.211-04:00I think that's where Bob goes wrong, too. You...I think that's where Bob goes wrong, too. You're right that people aren't perfect, so there are always going to be instances of liberals making stupid or incorrect claims, or otherwise acting foolish. And you're also right that the right-wing machine will blow those instances way out of proportion so that the conservative audience thinks that's all that's going on.<br /><br />But Bob's right that the liberal media shouldn't try to replicate the right-wing machine. He's also correct that journalists need to be more careful in what they say/write.<br /><br />Bob hasn't touched on this explicitly, but a big result of the right-wing propaganda is to delegitimize our institutions, including the press, which can serve only to help the one percenters, unfortunately.Jonny Scrum-halfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10700652770637696602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70748344576589003582017-03-28T13:04:53.136-04:002017-03-28T13:04:53.136-04:00Trump recently signed a bill that cut education st...Trump recently signed a bill that cut education standards, including assessment and teacher training standards. Not a word from the mainstream press or Somerby about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34341258305598711972017-03-28T12:55:11.335-04:002017-03-28T12:55:11.335-04:00I think many on the right are sincerely convinced ...I think many on the right are sincerely convinced that market forces will cure the economy and bring prosperity that will affect both rich and poor (through better jobs). When their constituents complain about their legislative choices, I believe they dismiss constituent concerns because they think they know better than the voters in their districts. When conservative approaches fail, they think it is because there wasn't enough free market, there was too much interference, their ideas didn't get a fair chance. This goes back to the one or two economics courses they took in college and is reinforced by Ayn Rand and discussions with colleagues, where the same tired ideas are recycled endlessly, from the same Republican reading materials.<br /><br />So, no, I don't agree that they are just following their party. I think some are also motivated by principle. You are also underestimating the motive of career advancement via party loyalty. The right punishes those who take a stand against their goals by denying them advancement within the party structure (appointment to key committees and leadership roles, approval of their pork, participation in visible ways, support during their primaries and elections, etc.). Yes, the Iraq war was bad. As I recall, there were some Republicans who opposed it (Chuck Hagel, Ron Paul).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30432135113112042942017-03-28T12:44:08.591-04:002017-03-28T12:44:08.591-04:00Jonny, I think you are right about his complaints ...Jonny, I think you are right about his complaints about Benghazi and Susan Rice and the NY Times vendetta against Clinton. But these kinds of things are still happening and Somerby is now silent about them. The attack on Planned Parenthood they are ginning up is an example. The NY Times is helping by running opinion pieces about how the Democrats should abandon abortion (e.g., choice) as a party plank.<br /><br />When you listen to the far right stations and read their websites, there are certainly a lot of examples of lefty hypocrisy and nonsense. Many of them (if not most) are fake news or distortions of fact. I don't think we are making ourselves ridiculous. I think that is being done as part of the ongoing well-financed political campaign against us. The very few examples of leftist silliness, largely unavoidable because people can be silly, get blown up to represent all of us and are repeated endlessly on those right channels -- then Somerby joins in. And aside from the vagrant trolls, the right pays no more attention to our legitimate arguments than we do to theirs. It is too painful reading through their garbage to find the occasional valid point.<br /><br />There is little point in Somerby telling us not to be silly. That is part of being human. Telling us to pay more attention to valid claims on the right isn't going to help either. Those people did something majorly wrong and it sounds like Somerby is telling us to excuse them so they can do it some more. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32064020118640345342017-03-28T12:24:16.439-04:002017-03-28T12:24:16.439-04:00I agree with much of your comment - Somerby appear...I agree with much of your comment - Somerby appears to be drawing equivalencies between conservative themes and liberal themes, which I don't think is correct.<br /><br />However, he's right that we should be careful about the arguments made on behalf of liberals. You may not think that the "equal pay" argument is a "whopper," but the way it's generally spun allows conservatives to write articles noting that various Democratic politicians have a "gender gap" in favor of men on their staff. Stuff like that feeds into the resentment of the people who listen to Hannity, who believe that liberals are full of shit and now have some ammunition to support their belief.<br /><br />And while you're also certainly correct that Trump supporters have agency and should be held to account for their decisions, I don't agree that Bob "fiddled." In fact, his was among the earliest blogs that I read that noted how the Democrats were being set-up by stories like Benghazi and the reliance by the NY Times on Peter Schweizer's research. No one listened to him, and he was again proven right that those were big issues in the campaign to discredit Clinton.Jonny Scrum-halfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10700652770637696602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89729541163120435062017-03-28T12:12:04.703-04:002017-03-28T12:12:04.703-04:00The Rs are also way more committed to the party, t...The Rs are also way more committed to the party, than to the citizens of the United States. They proved that when they tied the hands of the President during the country's deep recession and high-unemployment rate.<br />Take my word for it, I'm one of those lefties who marched against the Bush/ Cheney "Great Iraq Clusterfuck" because I loved Saddam, hated America, and wanted the United States to fail, and not at all because it was a boondoggle designed to move money from the Treasury into the hands of connected defense contractors, the greatest waste of taxpayer money in my lifetime, and would turn the Middle East into a hellhole we'll be dealing with for at least a generation. Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363187757246791754noreply@blogger.com