tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4412480024787822187..comments2024-03-29T05:30:01.292-04:00Comments on the daily howler: In search of a workable liberal logic!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35393388487795483022021-12-20T17:16:25.436-05:002021-12-20T17:16:25.436-05:00Exactly. To anonymices pigeonholing and discerning...Exactly. To anonymices pigeonholing and discerning are synonymous. <br /><br />Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59670608879121894302021-12-20T12:58:49.981-05:002021-12-20T12:58:49.981-05:00Anyone who isn't a bigot, or isn't perfect...Anyone who isn't a bigot, or isn't perfectly fine with bigotry, left the Republican Party more than two decades ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43076470469263680732021-12-20T12:11:32.428-05:002021-12-20T12:11:32.428-05:00It's easy to discern, by the fact that 11:55pm...It's easy to discern, by the fact that 11:55pm isn't a Right-winger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52278838829402004172021-12-20T12:09:22.650-05:002021-12-20T12:09:22.650-05:006:29,
Just because you don't like the Democrat...6:29,<br />Just because you don't like the Democratic Party, doesn't mean the Republican Party's only ideology isn't bigotry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75326511548483697402021-12-20T12:07:45.987-05:002021-12-20T12:07:45.987-05:00Mao,
Because that would show the Democratic Party&...Mao,<br />Because that would show the Democratic Party's intolerance of Right-wing ideology.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43841014705028679832021-12-20T08:11:19.725-05:002021-12-20T08:11:19.725-05:00"American Rescue Plan Act of 2021"
ARPA..."American Rescue Plan Act of 2021"<br /><br />ARPA, because MAGA was already taken? <br /><br />Why not <b>For Everything Good And Against Everything Evil Act</b>, dear dembot? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70212841030288172642021-12-20T07:22:46.242-05:002021-12-20T07:22:46.242-05:00I would like you to remember that the Democratic p...<em>I would like you to remember that the Democratic party is not meaningfully addressing class and income disparity issues and that you routinely act like a total fool.</em><br /><br />The first major piece of legislation President Biden signed was the <b>American Rescue Plan Act of 2021</b>.<br />It had to go through budget reconciliation process because not a single fucking republican senator would support the bill. Final passage in the House was by a vote of 220-211, not a single fucking republican congressman voted for it. Not one.<br /><br />I won't go into the details of everything in the legislation targeted directly at the average American working family.<br /><br />The ACA signed by President Obama also had to go through the budget reconciliation process because not a single fucking republican would support it. Not one.<br /><br />The Dems aren't perfect and there is a lot to criticize, but we have a binary system. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55503220460221550682021-12-20T07:19:13.312-05:002021-12-20T07:19:13.312-05:00Anonymouse 11:55pm, you may want policies that you...Anonymouse 11:55pm, you may want policies that you think are helpful to others, but there’s nothing otherwise discernible of you being a kind person or even fairly a fairly reasonable one. <br /><br />As to kindness, at least not from the vantage point of a blog board. <br /><br />As to you being reasonable and being adept in reasoning, it is obvious that you are not. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33122206127819196372021-12-20T00:04:04.518-05:002021-12-20T00:04:04.518-05:00@6:29
Did poverty go up or down under Trump? Hint...@6:29<br /><br />Did poverty go up or down under Trump? Hint: it didn't go down. <br /><br />Did the wealth gap increase or decrease under Trump? Hint: it widened as the rich got richer and poor got poorer.<br /><br />What happened to all economic indicators except the stock market under Trump? Hint: nothing good, even before covid.<br /><br />How many jobs were created under Trump? Fewer than under Democrats, including Biden, who has created more jobs than any recent president (including Reagan).<br /><br />When economic measures show that income disparity issues routinely get better under Democrats than under Republicans, why are these trolls working so hard to convince liberal voters that the Democrats do not have their interests at heart? Hint: Can you say "propaganda"? <br /><br />There is a reason that progressives are Democrats, no matter how hard they work to pull the party toward their positions on issues. It is because the right is worse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80979667961873081782021-12-19T23:55:52.268-05:002021-12-19T23:55:52.268-05:00When good people cannot go along with your ideas, ...When good people cannot go along with your ideas, it is time to stop and evaluate your positions. The woman in this article seems to wear the criticism she receives as a badge of honor, instead of a wake-up call that she has gone seriously astray.<br /><br />Somerby talks about the inability of two sides to understand each other. I do not understand how conservatives can persist in beliefs that seem evil to me. Cecelia's responses here are another example of that. She is just a messed up person without a single clue about how wrong-headed she is. <br /><br />It doesn't matter whether she is a troll or for real, what she says here is not just deplorable, it is despicable. Somerby's pleas for empathy for people like her seem to call for us to abandon important values and I will not do that. <br /><br />In Colorado, people have signs on their lawns imploring each other to treat others with kindness. My daughter once asked me why people needed signs to tell them to do what should be done without prompting. That is how integral kindness should be. I just cannot see an ounce of kindness in Cecelia or most conservatives, and it saddens me that such people are walking around interacting with others. And they don't even care about what they lack, about how they make the world a worse place for evertyone else. <br /><br />That's why I can empathize with the despair that Somerby sometimes expresses, but I totally disagree with him about why the country is failing. Cecelia and her ilk are the problem, not liberals and not logic. Lack of heart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71515882491769430032021-12-19T22:05:36.433-05:002021-12-19T22:05:36.433-05:00Pastor Bob, who has now signed off on the most fre...Pastor Bob, who has now signed off on the most freakish Holocaust trivialization, is preaching to a pretty empty choir. It’s sad to imagine who his benefactors are now. Back to worrying about Trump being called a lair again? Anything but looking at the stories of the day at this point.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35407158760073632022021-12-19T21:59:31.764-05:002021-12-19T21:59:31.764-05:00I like the Clintons, “moral greatness” was hardly ...I like the Clintons, “moral greatness” was hardly the way I thought about them. The “libertarian” who agues Trump is not a monster possesses zero moral or any other variety of common sense. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77438418738492605452021-12-19T21:33:04.739-05:002021-12-19T21:33:04.739-05:00Meanwhile, this is the stupidity Somerby tries to ...Meanwhile, this is the stupidity Somerby tries to defend:<br /><br />"A Florida man who was kicked off of a United Airlines flight for wearing a woman’s thong as a facemask reportedly said he did so in protest of the airline’s mask mandate and also compared himself to Rosa Parks.<br /><br />Adam Jenne of Cape Coral argues that he was in compliance with the mask mandate, as the red women’s panties covered both his nose and mouth, but staff on his Dec. 15 flight from Ft. Lauderdale to Washington, D.C. apparently didn’t agree.<br /><br />In a video recorded by a passenger, a flight attendant tells Jenne he needs to leave the airplane. When Jenne asks why the attendant tells him it’s because he is “not in mask compliance”. Jenne is wearing the underwear on his face during the entire interaction and leaves the plane without an altercation after being asked."<br /><br />At least he exited the plane without having to be arrested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24903416589269950962021-12-19T21:02:57.503-05:002021-12-19T21:02:57.503-05:00Oddly enough, there are also liberals who live on ...Oddly enough, there are also liberals who live on farms and in rural areas. Somerby's idea that it takes empathy to understand farm life is ridiculous. He himself doesn't live on a farm or anywhere near it, and he didn't grow up on any farm. His co-opting of a folk song about a farm boy is offensive, once again. There is nothing inherent to farm life that would make someone a Trump voter, mask resister or any other kind of idiot.<br /><br />However, lack of education, isolation from diversity found in larger cities, lack of perspective on other people's problems and feeling threatened by change and progress, can all make someone attracted to Trump. But that doesn't automatically come with working on a farm instead of in a factory.<br /><br />In the absence of liberal commenters, these blog comments descend into chaotic nonsense. But one really cannot begrudge those who have lives beyond this blog.<br /><br />I wish Somerby would stop lying about liberals. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9738662575243541202021-12-19T18:29:41.227-05:002021-12-19T18:29:41.227-05:00I would like you to remember that the Democratic p...I would like you to remember that the Democratic party is not meaningfully addressing class and income disparity issues and that you routinely act like a total fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36545772622264293672021-12-19T16:26:07.757-05:002021-12-19T16:26:07.757-05:001:04,
Which would you like us to forget more, the ...1:04,<br />Which would you like us to forget more, the standing ovation Republican voters gave Trump when he gave the Establishment elites a HUGE tax break, or the way they tried to overthrow the Capitol when black votes counted in an election?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8957231735621086882021-12-19T13:49:20.921-05:002021-12-19T13:49:20.921-05:00When you ain't got nothin, you go nothin to lo...When you ain't got nothin, you go nothin to lose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47241262133542953772021-12-19T13:46:14.459-05:002021-12-19T13:46:14.459-05:00So Republican voters were so concerned about the e...So Republican voters were so concerned about the economy, they voted for a guy who stiffs his contractors because he has financial leverage over them.<br />TDH readers: feel free to pull 1:04’s other finger.Bertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00467132691948621846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88605316273410511392021-12-19T13:42:07.223-05:002021-12-19T13:42:07.223-05:00Is that first name No, last name Body, or is it al...Is that first name No, last name Body, or is it all one name, like Cher or Madonna?Bertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00467132691948621846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29170646113456230162021-12-19T13:04:59.507-05:002021-12-19T13:04:59.507-05:00Berto/mh/Corby: you've lost this one. The Demo...Berto/mh/Corby: you've lost this one. The Democratic establishment that you adore and their ass kissing, low IQ blogs that you turn to religiously both exist to divide us and keep us divided so class issues are never discussed and addressed. When presented with this reality all you have are name-calling ad hominems - more dividing. It's all you know. You have no answer to the charge therefore you don't give one. I don't blame you. You're only a pawn in their game. Have a good sunday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33712183165945479422021-12-19T12:36:44.964-05:002021-12-19T12:36:44.964-05:00Do you have the name of the Republican voter who g...Do you have the name of the Republican voter who gives a shit about what Taibni wrote?Bertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00467132691948621846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65669038750480811642021-12-19T11:44:36.157-05:002021-12-19T11:44:36.157-05:001108 is so quick to call everyone racists, bigots,...1108 is so quick to call everyone racists, bigots, fascists and trolls. Addressing the actual substance of what Taibbi wrote, not so much. God forbid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-92189634006985209702021-12-19T11:41:45.411-05:002021-12-19T11:41:45.411-05:00Like I said, it's very simple. If you question...Like I said, it's very simple. If you question the moral greatness of Hillary Clinton and the DNC democratic establishment or their courtesans in the media in any way whatsoever, you are a bigoted fascist. Just please, God forbid, at any and all cost never ever ever bring up class disparity issues. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-88873935242024590792021-12-19T11:13:47.002-05:002021-12-19T11:13:47.002-05:00How charming. Oxygen-deprived faucists hate the fa...How charming. Oxygen-deprived faucists hate the fascists living inside their heads. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72121340704026413782021-12-19T11:08:28.931-05:002021-12-19T11:08:28.931-05:00It's amusing how Taibbi new fanboyz are now al...It's amusing how Taibbi new fanboyz are now all Trumpists and racists. His gibberish sells well with the fascists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com