tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4449647424175823450..comments2024-03-19T07:13:54.443-04:00Comments on the daily howler: BREAKING: The soul of a tribal player like Milbank!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69076088175036850162018-02-22T20:03:07.311-05:002018-02-22T20:03:07.311-05:00No push back on Trump being an establishment darli...No push back on Trump being an establishment darling, either, Mao.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-64166628307753045242018-02-22T17:23:13.082-05:002018-02-22T17:23:13.082-05:00A new low in false equivalency, even for Gee-tar D...A new low in false equivalency, even for Gee-tar DaveNot a Bob-L-Headnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19953797573139331202018-02-22T17:20:51.312-05:002018-02-22T17:20:51.312-05:00Who are "we"? You and the other cubicle-...Who are "we"? You and the other cubicle-sharing trolls diving for kopeks? I guess it beats flipping borsch-burger patties all day.Not Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40309793169752910862018-02-22T15:04:26.960-05:002018-02-22T15:04:26.960-05:00"Yes, Mao is much more attracted to the modes..."Yes, Mao is much more attracted to the modest humility of the Great Donald J. Trump."<br /><br />Cool. Since my characterization of the liberals as obtuse, belligerent, and self-righteous assholes doesn't seem to arouse any disagreement, I'm glad we agree on something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20931365234237833452018-02-22T14:50:23.276-05:002018-02-22T14:50:23.276-05:00'Most of the commenters here sound exactly lik...'Most of the commenters here sound exactly like bots. Most likely, sitting, hundreds of them, in a huge office somewhere in India, typing the same comment with slight variations, day after day, for 20-30 bucks/day. '<br /><br /><br />Well, that much can be said for St. Peterburg, they probably pay you a little better, Mao ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52946373264607620352018-02-22T13:43:03.156-05:002018-02-22T13:43:03.156-05:00As for the liberals, I guess what annoys me most i...<em>As for the liberals, I guess what annoys me most is their obtuse and belligerent self-righteousness. Arrogance.</em><br /><br />Yes, Mao is much more attracted to the modest humility of the Great Donald J. Trump.<br /><br />This is an ongoing problem for Democratic polls - trying to attract the wingnuts suffering from terminal inferiority complex. <br /><br />More good news for those suffering from economic anxiety:<br />**************<br /> <em>Half of the Senate GOP is urging Trump to reconsider his year-old decision to yank the United States from the Trans Pacific Partnership. In a Friday letter, 25 of them encouraged him to “work aggressively” to renegotiate terms and rejoin the sweeping pact with 11 other Pacific Rim nations that the Obama administration originally organized. The push comes as the final version of the deal was released Wednesday.<br /><br />Trump himself cracked the door open for this particular appeal when he dangled the possibility of reviving U.S. participation in the agreement during a CNBC interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos. “I would do TPP if we were able to make a substantially better deal,”</em><br />****************<br />mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6799461615064996082018-02-22T13:19:44.847-05:002018-02-22T13:19:44.847-05:00Well, personally I feel that Seth Rich should be c...Well, personally I feel that Seth Rich should be commended for exposing the extreme corruption in the Democratic party, which is, at least in theory, a public organization. As they say: the public has the right to know. <br /><br />"As far as the bot fake emails - if its true Russians did this, that is something."<br /><br />If "Russians", i.e. people with Russian passports, sent emails - you think "that is something"? This is the <i>World Wide Web</i>, my friend - do you understand what that means? <br /><br />Most of the commenters here sound exactly like bots. Most likely, sitting, hundreds of them, in a huge office somewhere in India, typing the same comment with slight variations, day after day, for 20-30 bucks/day. But you only care about those (alleged) 12 "Russians". Fine, that's your business.<br /><br />As for the liberals, I guess what annoys me most is their obtuse and belligerent self-righteousness. Arrogance. More or less what Bob is writing about these days. <br /><br />And yeah, the tariffs too. MAGA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44986321552123800852018-02-22T13:00:30.098-05:002018-02-22T13:00:30.098-05:00I'm going to guess Trump knew nothing bout it,...I'm going to guess Trump knew nothing bout it, because all members of his team initially told us they had never met with any Russian operatives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16711445430974918092018-02-22T12:55:28.413-05:002018-02-22T12:55:28.413-05:00"Are our "liberal" news sources pro..."Are our "liberal" news sources providing accurate, believable information?"<br />First define this: "Liberal" news sources. For example, must "liberal" news sources be owned by multi-billion dollar corporations?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59546204392334355572018-02-22T12:20:42.201-05:002018-02-22T12:20:42.201-05:00Mao, I appreciated your Richard Hofstedter referen...Mao, I appreciated your Richard Hofstedter reference - quite apropos. As far as the "chase" I would think that if Mueller comes up with evidence that Trump, or his campaign, were complicit with Russians (or anyone else) in stealing the DNC's emails or turning them over to WikiLeaks, that would be meaningful, but I don't see any evidence yet that this happened, other than weak speculation (just like the fairly obviously bogus accusations against Clinton on the uranium deal). As far as the bot fake emails - if its true Russians did this, that is something. There's little common sense in the discussion. Doesn't the US sabotage electronically weapon systems of foreign countries we aren't at war with? Didn't we influence much more obviously the Yeltsin election in the 1990's? There were many reasons why Trump won. I would think that these bot fake tweets and rallies probably didn't count for much, compared to the decades long right wing assault, Hannity, Limbaugh, Fox News, Breitbart, and myriads of sites and radio talk show hosts, etc. How are any of these indictees going to be prosecuted? I agree that the "liberals" have gone of the rails on this chase thing (though I don't know what the Trump appointed special prosecutor will finally come up with). I don't get your loathing of "liberals" - is it all about tariffs and free trade?AC/MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1108829336774476172018-02-22T12:16:54.303-05:002018-02-22T12:16:54.303-05:00You apparently only believe that people as smart a...You apparently only believe that people as smart as you should be allowed to vote. Do I get to decide if you are "smart" enough to vote? The issue is whether voters are getting accurate, believable information that they can use to decide. That is what this blog is about. Are our "liberal" news sources providing accurate, believable information? Not always.Dave the Guitar Playernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55705230739555761612018-02-22T12:01:03.731-05:002018-02-22T12:01:03.731-05:00I think you have to agree that *all* the campaigns...I think you have to agree that *all* the campaigns (including Trump's) were victims of the Russian interference. The American people were being manipulated to give results that benefited a foreign power. Trump (obviously) benefited personally from having the election manipulated, which brings up the issue of whether he knew about the manipulation and participated in it. However, it makes no sense to blame Hillary or Bernie or even Trump if they were not aware of the interference by the Russians or had no practical way to prevent it.Dave the Guitar Playernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7807767188533392952018-02-22T11:41:25.744-05:002018-02-22T11:41:25.744-05:00From The Political Wire:
“I did not know that Rus...From The Political Wire:<br /><br />“I did not know that Russian bots were promoting my campaign… I would say that the real question to be asked is: What was the Clinton campaign doing about Russian interference — they had more information about this than we had.”<br /><br />— Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), in an interview with Vermont Public Radio.<br /><br />https://politicalwire.com/<br /><br />So, Bernie's reaction is to blame Hillary. Wonder where he learned that.<br />Perrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3551383578082872092018-02-22T11:07:45.539-05:002018-02-22T11:07:45.539-05:00Anonyous @ 4:42 - That's some really good &quo...Anonyous @ 4:42 - That's some really good "what about"-ism. If you can't see that a lot of unhelpful and counter-productive crap is coming from liberals and people who generally support liberals, then you're willfully blind.<br />Jonny Scrum-halfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10700652770637696602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90948539901932200402018-02-22T08:19:20.289-05:002018-02-22T08:19:20.289-05:00Oh, Mao realizes that he has to defend his paymast...Oh, Mao realizes that he has to defend his paymasters ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47397059291322648752018-02-22T07:39:34.272-05:002018-02-22T07:39:34.272-05:00"In truth, we humans are inclined to be dumb,..."In truth, we humans are inclined to be dumb, no one more so than Milbank."<br /><br />He's not dumb at all, this particular scumbag. He's been around the block quite a few times. <br /><br />He's just doing his goebesian jobs. And in this case, it's literally goebesian: inciting russophobic hatred.<br /><br />Incidentally, may I note that the 'indictments' paper concocted by Colonel Klink and his stooges doesn't even mention the Dark Lord Putin? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15388650611308534322018-02-21T20:54:50.398-05:002018-02-21T20:54:50.398-05:00Why leave the Sanders crowd out of the discussion?...Why leave the Sanders crowd out of the discussion? Are they idiots or dupes? What kind of language did Milbank use to talk about them?Perrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77757156513290491972018-02-21T20:28:35.966-05:002018-02-21T20:28:35.966-05:00The current gun control debate illustrates somethi...The current gun control debate illustrates something about our political discourse that Somerby needs to realize. The Florida high school students almost invariably preface their remarks with "We don't want to take your guns away", "We respect your right to bear arms", etc, going out of their way to be respectful of The "Others." And yet, there is no similar respect or generosity from The Others offered to the students. (There is vilification in some cases). The tone of the debate has been set by The Others, who still refuse to have a civil discussion. Hence, a justifiable sense of frustration with people like Somerby who keep harping on this theme ("we don't know how to talk to The Others!"), seemingly oblivious to the realities. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80867411565639086032018-02-21T20:23:04.540-05:002018-02-21T20:23:04.540-05:00Trump is a liar and a thief.Trump is a liar and a thief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67961553108421051002018-02-21T19:57:52.095-05:002018-02-21T19:57:52.095-05:00What are Milbank's political views? It's n...What are Milbank's political views? It's not clear that he's a liberal. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47436862754339990532018-02-21T19:36:46.939-05:002018-02-21T19:36:46.939-05:00True that some people namecall only the OTHERS.
...True that some people namecall only the OTHERS.<br /><br /> In Somberby's case, the Others are Liberals, and his tribe is the Trumptard tribe, which explains his continual attacks on liberals and his defense of Trump, Moore et al. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10390171534403551942018-02-21T19:25:31.482-05:002018-02-21T19:25:31.482-05:00Troll harder.Troll harder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4107035894202286622018-02-21T19:21:13.002-05:002018-02-21T19:21:13.002-05:00I'll put my elbow on your lip.I'll put my elbow on your lip.Gregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20435479858838648112018-02-21T17:49:02.583-05:002018-02-21T17:49:02.583-05:00Since they are all part of the school's drama ...Since they are all part of the school's drama club, yes...they are all actors...some have done professional workanonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91367263345912111842018-02-21T17:29:48.884-05:002018-02-21T17:29:48.884-05:00Anyone who voted for Trump WAS either being idioti...Anyone who voted for Trump WAS either being idiotic or is a downright idiot. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com