tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post4513285777349368246..comments2024-03-29T10:53:25.252-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Whistle-blowing sounds like a good idea!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11531555174219354912013-05-14T08:57:50.145-04:002013-05-14T08:57:50.145-04:00hicks' self introduction is laughably egomania...hicks' self introduction is laughably egomaniacal. he should have started referring to himself in the 3rd person, "I, Deputy Chief of Mission Gregory Hicks, have been a bulldog since the day etc. etc." you know, Oliver North style. then the press and republicans could adulate him properly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54512294265688988112013-05-14T08:35:03.426-04:002013-05-14T08:35:03.426-04:00I'm impressed, I must say. Seldom do I encount...I'm impressed, I must say. Seldom do I encounter a blog that's <br />equally educative and amusing, and let me tell you, you've hit the nail on the head. The problem is something not enough people are speaking intelligently about. Now i'm <br />very happy that I came across this during my hunt <br />for something relating to this.<br /><br />my page :: <a href="http://www.adultchatnetworks.com/" rel="nofollow">active</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32097595358516342722013-05-14T01:21:12.513-04:002013-05-14T01:21:12.513-04:00Wow that was unusual. I just wrote an incredibly l...Wow that was unusual. I just wrote an incredibly long comment but after I clicked <br />submit my comment didn't appear. Grrrr... well I'm not writing all that over again.<br />Anyhow, just wanted to say great blog!<br /><br />Look at my blog post; <a href="http://www.explorethecapabilities.com/michaelkors.html" rel="nofollow">Michael Kors Canada</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7013062930520135342013-05-14T00:30:47.657-04:002013-05-14T00:30:47.657-04:00Of course, Bob does not imply Hicks is suspect or ...Of course, Bob does not imply Hicks is suspect or lump him in with anyone. He simply uses his hilarious self introduction to take the bulldog to the pound. Is there a self assessment here more self benifical than Hicks's is to Hicks? Given the recent history of these things (check out what Powell's intellegence people at State had to say about Iraq) , it's THIS incident that would turn Hicks on the whole rotten, damned game? Tell us another, MC.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80681637635252202422013-05-13T19:07:41.748-04:002013-05-13T19:07:41.748-04:00Does your blog have a contact page? I'm having...Does your blog have a contact page? I'm having trouble locating it but, I'd like to shoot you an e-mail.<br />I've got some ideas for your blog you might be interested in hearing. Either way, great website and I look forward to seeing it develop over time.<br /><br />Here is my web-site <a href="http://gitesfrankrijk.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">gites frankrijk</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59532768975749964002013-05-13T19:07:14.827-04:002013-05-13T19:07:14.827-04:00Whistle-blowing sounds like a good idea--until it ...Whistle-blowing sounds like a good idea--until it undermines TDH's preferred narrative. Then TDH has to speculate without evidence about the whistle-blower's motives. Hilariously, Susan Rice's statements must always always always be considered without any regard for her motives. <br /><br />There was a time when TDH took journos to task for making routine bios (of Gore) look "peculiar." Well, those days are long past...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52846610114601211382013-05-13T18:53:27.023-04:002013-05-13T18:53:27.023-04:00You are on the money there, my friend.
Whether yo...You are on the money there, my friend.<br /><br />Whether you are a career State Dept official turned critic over the handling of a disastrous consulate attack, or the parent of one of the casualties, hating this Secretary of State makes you suspect regardless of the circumstances, and lumps you in with some particular pariahs.<br /><br />CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59148632470003929382013-05-13T18:09:11.708-04:002013-05-13T18:09:11.708-04:00OK, so he's one of those gung-ho Douglas MacAr...OK, so he's one of those gung-ho Douglas MacArthur types who truly believes he's qualified to make up US policy on the spot, and that he'd have saved those 4 people except for the interference of the REMF's in D.C. Does that make his personal opinions on Clinton and Rice any less relevant insofar as they seem to color his testimony?<br /><br />Yeah, it's not just Fox people who hate Hillary. But there are a lot of them, and this is exactly the kind of thing they do. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76852964977216717292013-05-13T17:41:40.196-04:002013-05-13T17:41:40.196-04:00Not necessarily.Not necessarily.urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78822712659143521512013-05-13T16:43:10.198-04:002013-05-13T16:43:10.198-04:00What's interesting here is that the State Dept...What's interesting here is that the State Dept did push back against the CIA's assessment of what happened at the consulate. They pushed back to the tune of 12 revisions.<br /><br />However, the assessment that stayed intact was the one most beneficial to ALL involved. The assessment that essentially says, as far as we know...it seems to have been a collection of professional and local ne'er-do-wells either protesting a video, or taking advantage of the protesting of it.<br /><br />Hick is disdainful of this based upon info he knows (even by his own connections) that the CIA knew, and the highly significant remarks made by Libya's chief of state.<br /><br />We know the Ambassador asked for more protection, before the attacks. We know Hicks tangled with Washington in requesting a military intervention during the assaults. <br /><br />I'm willing to give nod to all the profundities about the situation being complex in the sense that no party involved is uncorrupted by self-interest. That hindsight is 20/20. That the WH and other agencies were walking the thin tightrope of protecting classified information.<br /><br />However, I see no reason to entertain the personal implication that Hicks might have "Fox-like politics" because he shows some disgust and irreverence for Hillary Clinton's right-hand man, Susan Rice.<br /><br />Hicks has not been unclear about he feels about the response of the State Dept, or why. The man's personal politics would not necessarily be a determinate of THAT.<br /><br />CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51720719497083617182013-05-13T16:36:32.713-04:002013-05-13T16:36:32.713-04:00These familiar Rebup talking points pop up wheneve...These familiar Rebup talking points pop up whenever scandal mode is on full Court Press. We are not after Obama, we want accountability from "all Governments" just <br />Like Billl O'Reilly. We VOTED with you (yeah right) until that one terrible day when everything changed.<br /> One thing is true: Hick's hilariously Walter Mittian introduction has been denied the average news consumer and it really isn't fair. This's bulldog's delusions of greatness<br />are funnier than anything on one of my favorite Telivison programs that I ignore the phone during . Great post.<br /> Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13199597501496196972013-05-13T14:51:08.327-04:002013-05-13T14:51:08.327-04:00We haven't even gotten to the fact that the ad...We haven't even gotten to the fact that the administration was in damage-control mode because of the video that was, in fact, prompting demonstrations in other cities. urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75019612938323516542013-05-13T14:48:16.539-04:002013-05-13T14:48:16.539-04:00You are very skillful at the old duck-and-weave, a...You are very skillful at the old duck-and-weave, aren't you? This is not a legitimate response to cacambo's challenge.urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57360152643059981122013-05-13T14:45:05.060-04:002013-05-13T14:45:05.060-04:00Anon "waste of time":
You made TDH'...Anon "waste of time": <br /><br />You made TDH's point at the same time you thought you were debunking it. The point is that there is no news in all this. Whatever truth-bending went on in the talking points, you cannot identify any specific deception that would be any different from any such matter. Rice was sticking to the talking points, with one difference being that she did expressly acknowledge to Bob Schieffer that day that al Qaeda could be involved to some extent in the attack. OK, so you might prefer to shift your focus to the talking points themselves, but these talking points were like any other early talking points on a matter like that. urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25038416375172480382013-05-13T14:38:13.267-04:002013-05-13T14:38:13.267-04:00Are we forgetting that the entire raise d'être...Are we forgetting that the entire raise d'être of diplomatic language is to tone down the emotional content of rhetoric?<br /><br />It is the JOB of diplomats to speak in nuanced language.<br /><br />If you want blunt, appoint John Bolton as SecState. <br /><br />As Don Corleone said, "Never let your enemies know what you're thinking."<br />gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72562922310823968552013-05-13T14:35:52.176-04:002013-05-13T14:35:52.176-04:00The information that Hicks voted for Obama has bee...The information that Hicks voted for Obama has been out for some time, yet TDH professes ignorance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77020649277413097992013-05-13T13:05:51.666-04:002013-05-13T13:05:51.666-04:00Only if you are an extreme Benghazi junkie has Hic...Only if you are an extreme Benghazi junkie has Hicks' testimony been "dominating the news."<br /><br />Even on the day it was given, that small segment of America who paid any attention at all simply rolled their eyes in boredom and quickly forgot who Hicks even is.<br /><br />Realize how quickly even the Mittster dropped this whole thing after his Debate No. 2 faceplant.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89935971830757619502013-05-13T12:57:10.748-04:002013-05-13T12:57:10.748-04:00I guess it all depends on how one defines "su...I guess it all depends on how one defines "substance". To me, bob's point is quite substantive given that Hick's testimony has been dominating the news since Wednesday and was Topic 1 on all the Sunday shows. And as usual Bob is practically the only one I've seen or read who is able to cut through all the BS Issa and his crew of vandals are floating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58909659883904955442013-05-13T12:47:58.042-04:002013-05-13T12:47:58.042-04:00MM, it's been a long while since Bob was capab...MM, it's been a long while since Bob was capable of hitting any nerves. But by all means, continue with this nonsensical debate, and ignore all issues of substance.<br /><br />That's always been the MO of this blog, and it does seem to please a few people.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19552416885942371292013-05-13T12:42:09.587-04:002013-05-13T12:42:09.587-04:00You can assume anything you want, cacambo, about a...You can assume anything you want, cacambo, about a claim I didn't make, but I needn't answer for your fantasy. <br /><br />What does the qualifier "Whether or not" mean to you? Or didn't you bother to actually read the post before replying?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24684590913192962322013-05-13T12:41:24.181-04:002013-05-13T12:41:24.181-04:00You know Bob has hit a nerve when the critics of h...You know Bob has hit a nerve when the critics of him don't even attempt to address the substance of his post. Like, in what fucking world does it make sense for Hicks to suggest Rice should just trash her talking points prepared by our own intelligence agencies based on her hearing some wild claims made by a not disinterested party just minutes before? mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78094376172557058082013-05-13T12:30:58.719-04:002013-05-13T12:30:58.719-04:00@Anon 12:09,
I think you are right to be skeptica...@Anon 12:09,<br /><br />I think you are right to be skeptical of governments. In that same spirit of skepticism, I will assume that your claim that we are looking at "conscious deception on the part of the Obama administration" is pure bullsh*t until you present some evidence to back it up.cacambonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-89006871997180144932013-05-13T12:09:58.676-04:002013-05-13T12:09:58.676-04:00Oh Bob, what a preposterous waste of time.
Let...Oh Bob, what a preposterous waste of time.<br /><br />Let's make it simple, shall we? Does history tell us that governments -- Repub, Dem, Latvian, Martian -- tell the truth? Do elected officials tell the public the truth? Do political appointees? Does this Mr. Hicks? What about Susan Rice?<br /><br />Whether or not, in this particular instance, the facts in dispute (or, rather, the dispute about the claims of the facts) represent conscious deception on the part of the Obama administration (the same administration, for example, that preposterously and claims that drones aren't killing civilians), do you seriously believe that ANYTHING this or any other administration says can be believed? Or that the Obama administration in this one instance was sufficiently truthful, sincere and forthcoming, that such truthfulness is worth defending? As an apologist for American foreign policy, how truthful is Susan Rice generally? <br /><br />In other words, it comes down to what your blog always comes down to; to wit, despite the lies told about him by the press, was Al Gore a liar, if on matters far more crucial than Love Story or Love Canal?<br /><br />Do you even care what the answer is, as long as the national depraved press corps gives you an opportunity to discuss the irrelevant and the absurd? <br /><br />Or do you lack that inquiring mind you wish on others?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com