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Obama ...The poll cited by the Atlantic link above:<br /><br />Obama is/isn’t a socialist: 55/39<br /><br />That doesn't seem like vague wording. <br /><br />Better link:<br />http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/william-galston/76140/democrats-cant-recover<br /><br />Trollmesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15423567101347372482015-06-09T13:16:49.418-04:002015-06-09T13:16:49.418-04:00"Sanders gives aid and comfort to the bad guy..."Sanders gives aid and comfort to the bad guys."<br /><br />Huh? You'd better say how.<br /><br />Also, you imagine Hillary Clinton has a chance of NOT winning the nomination, but a certainty of winning the general election if she does get the nomination.<br /><br />That's the most boneheaded view likely to be aired here for some time.<br /><br />The reality's quite the opposite.<br /><br />Clinton has almost a certain lock on the Democratic nomination, but her negatives and the hostility of the press (which of course influences no one!) will make the general election a tough contest for her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60010717488064171302015-06-09T12:52:53.807-04:002015-06-09T12:52:53.807-04:00Yes.Yes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79248422137467088722015-06-09T12:32:25.151-04:002015-06-09T12:32:25.151-04:00The vague wording of that question is the problem....The vague wording of that question is the problem. I would have answered it yes myself because even the most conservative Democrat moves the country in more of a socialist direction than a conservative would. I don't think Obama is any kind of a socialist and neither did the people answering that question.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74066717433448483722015-06-09T11:38:28.479-04:002015-06-09T11:38:28.479-04:00Anon 1005,
I wish you were right, but polls show...Anon 1005, <br /><br />I wish you were right, but polls show over 50% of likely voters thought Obama was a socialist or was moving the country toward socialism as of 2010. <br /><br />http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/07/poll-55-of-likely-voters-think-obama-is-a-socialist/59463/<br />http://cnsnews.com/news/article/nytcbs-poll-52-say-obama-moving-america-towards-socialism<br /><br />Trollmesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65846837865492785342015-06-09T01:39:48.965-04:002015-06-09T01:39:48.965-04:00Gore won as well.Gore won as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76999338369467522652015-06-08T22:05:40.455-04:002015-06-08T22:05:40.455-04:00Only tea party idiots thought that. There is a hug...Only tea party idiots thought that. There is a huge difference between self-identifying as a socialist and being called one by conservative fruitcakes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46096033747222814102015-06-08T22:01:30.924-04:002015-06-08T22:01:30.924-04:00You think we can't tell the difference between...You think we can't tell the difference between a real criticism of Clinton and this bullshit propaganda?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63359106888128372082015-06-08T21:45:41.710-04:002015-06-08T21:45:41.710-04:00"Fifty Shades of Grey, the hit erotica series..."Fifty Shades of Grey, the hit erotica series that essentially gave birth to the "mommy porn" genre, crossed an important milestone recently when it recorded its 100 millionth sale this week." <br />http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fifty-shades-grey-sales-hit-683852<br /><br />Yeah, that actually happened. So there's Anon 427 and others and then there's the actual world of real people. So maybe the Sanders essay isn't such a big deal. <br /><br />You may want to lie down on the fainting couch before you go back to Jimmy Carter's admission to a soft-porn mag that he "lusted," yes lusted, after women that were not his wife. That was also in the 70's and, oh yeah, he won that election. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Trollmesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10544887042571682062015-06-08T21:30:54.243-04:002015-06-08T21:30:54.243-04:00Does anyone really believe she is changing anyone&...Does anyone really believe she is changing anyone's thinking on any matter through this fashionable punitive, suffocating Stalinist thought and speech policing? Yuck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60067575584070928752015-06-08T21:26:56.728-04:002015-06-08T21:26:56.728-04:00Any fair reading of the actual essay from '72 ...Any fair reading of the actual essay from '72 does show an understanding of women's issues. To suggest in an essay that men and women have fantasies revolving around dominance and submission isn't going to shock many of the millions and millions of buyers of 50 Shades. It's really very mainstream now; though writing about it '72 was not so mainstream. <br />You won't win many elections lying on the fainting couch. <br /><br />Also, most likely voters thought Obama was a socialist and he did okay. Trollmesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30223403577224444232015-06-08T21:14:35.187-04:002015-06-08T21:14:35.187-04:00It may not be insane but certainly goofy to assist...It may not be insane but certainly goofy to assist a candidate or cause far from your own by withholding or wasting one's vote in protest that someone closer to your position is not in competition. Ultimately, you want your cause to prevail, and you help those who can make it less possible ever by assisting them into office. Lacywoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74737536387127047562015-06-08T21:07:27.265-04:002015-06-08T21:07:27.265-04:00If the NYT picks a particularly inane comment, I w...If the NYT picks a particularly inane comment, I will often add my own comment: "Really, NYT? THIS is the comment you pick?" They NEVER publish my follow up. <br /><br />If I criticize a NYT reporter by name, they also will never publish it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76979522926282431732015-06-08T20:50:35.540-04:002015-06-08T20:50:35.540-04:00For the love of God, please no one think any bad t...For the love of God, please no one think any bad thoughts about Hillary, or have any doubts about her motive or character! If you do that, we'll get President Walker and it will be ALL YOUR FAULT!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50412102626336420232015-06-08T20:37:52.256-04:002015-06-08T20:37:52.256-04:00Sanders and Clinton have nearly identical voting r...Sanders and Clinton have nearly identical voting records but Sanders wrote an essay suggesting he doesn't understand women's issues on a visceral level. Who do you think women will vote for?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57323060848408851792015-06-08T20:34:07.130-04:002015-06-08T20:34:07.130-04:00The question has nothing to do with women's fa...The question has nothing to do with women's fantasies. It is about men's fantasy that women like being forced so no means yes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71795859779284981752015-06-08T20:25:04.184-04:002015-06-08T20:25:04.184-04:00Hillary did win in 2008. She won the popular vote ...Hillary did win in 2008. She won the popular vote in the primaries and may have won the delegate vote had the roll been called in the normal way. She would have beaten McCain in the general election, just as she will beat any Republican candidate in 2016 given the chance. That's why the powers that be are scared shitless and going all out to keep her from being nominated. Sanders gives aid and comfort to the bad guys. If he had any sense he would see that, but he is clueless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40463666149699775052015-06-08T19:34:58.501-04:002015-06-08T19:34:58.501-04:00What a load of horseshit you post, Anon 4:27.
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