tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5385954069250415211..comments2024-03-28T08:17:14.194-04:00Comments on the daily howler: DOWD AND DOWDINPANTZ: This too was bogus! <b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70423211511120795792013-02-26T20:29:52.004-05:002013-02-26T20:29:52.004-05:00Usually, the best time to expect free time on Xbox...Usually, the best time to expect free time on Xbox Live is when there is a gaming event taking place (such as the <br />launching of a new game). This isn't anything new to the "Silver" accounts, though. One and only thing superior to System is almost certainly Console Take up residence, given it grants the opportunity to relax and play along contacts -and complete unknown people to from the globally.<br /><br />Also visit my website - <a href="http://danielelawson15.livejournal.com/734.html" rel="nofollow">free xbox live</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79406864824750110972012-11-25T09:49:43.672-05:002012-11-25T09:49:43.672-05:00Unlike the republicans the administration will not...Unlike the republicans the administration will not waste resources in search of a scandal that does not exist. Like "Fast and Furious" the administration cannot "play ball" with every hyped problem the republicans struggle to manufacture. It isn't as if there were four dead in Ohio. Once again, republicans are exposing their disrespect and resentment toward an administration they do not control, which is the real scandal behind Benghazi.gcwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07990785263482839943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40456977542657923092012-11-25T05:16:45.251-05:002012-11-25T05:16:45.251-05:00If one listens closely to McCain's statements ...If one listens closely to McCain's statements they appear to be caused by the onset of dementia.gcwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07990785263482839943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1226254913261840192012-11-25T05:07:22.925-05:002012-11-25T05:07:22.925-05:00It is a shame that some journalists believe they d...It is a shame that some journalists believe they did their leg work by paying attention at DC cocktail parties. Stories planted by a manipulator are given legs by several reporters or friends of reporters who have been told the plutocrats' consensus story. The inflated egos of reporters refuse to accept that their buddies, the mandarins of the inner circle, would misinform them off the record. Since the cocktail circuit is generally considered leg-work among reporters the only necessary step is to weave in the talking points with filler and the next day's column is written - and it wasn't even past midnight.gcwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07990785263482839943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8346662517191400442012-11-24T18:24:38.401-05:002012-11-24T18:24:38.401-05:00I am curious to find out what blog system you happ...I am curious to find out what blog system you happen to be utilizing?<br /><br />I'm having some small security problems with my latest website and I would like to find something more risk-free. Do you have any recommendations?<br /><i>My webpage</i> ; <b><a href="http://www.yourtobaccosstore.com/5-samson" rel="nofollow">samson review</a></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74214531442064662032012-11-24T11:23:52.463-05:002012-11-24T11:23:52.463-05:00The Associated Press reports:
Little sign of Lib...The Associated Press reports:<br /><br /><i> <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/little-sign-libyan-probe-consulate-attack-211910831.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Little sign of Libyan probe into consulate attack</b></a> <br /><br />BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — After more than two months, Libya's investigation into the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi appears in limbo. Key security commanders and witnesses say they were never questioned. No suspects have been named, and gunmen seen participating in the assault walk freely in the eastern Libyan city.</i><br /><br />Evidently the Administration means to permanently cover up their mishandling of this matter. It's nice to see the AP finally putting some pressure on them to come clean. David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74362298927662039022012-11-23T20:14:33.372-05:002012-11-23T20:14:33.372-05:00It is not a "grand deceit" AC/MA....that...It is not a "grand deceit" AC/MA....that is precisely the point. It is a petty, ugly, minor one offered by the Adim, and their lying mouthpiece, to sneak by people, in the light of the ugly and exaggerated, and erroneous, claims of that creep, Lindsey Graham et al. And you are blind to that because you long for your hero to be noble. But if it simplifies your world to put me in bed with that corrupt and lying moron Graham...have at it. It is indeed such a complicated world...with so many bad guys. I sympathize with your need to simplify it,jonstnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73365050893736913692012-11-23T16:03:31.660-05:002012-11-23T16:03:31.660-05:00Looks like Jonathan Alter may have a broken soul. ...Looks like Jonathan Alter may have a broken soul. He dared to opine that Kerry is a better pick for SOS than Rice. Watch this space for a takedown of Alter. ABLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75650403149815763512012-11-23T11:02:08.208-05:002012-11-23T11:02:08.208-05:00people born before September 16 may remember Obama...<br />people born before September 16 may remember Obama skirting the War Powers Act to intervene in Libya--an intervention that was not popular in his own cabinet with Defense Secretary Gates notably against the idea. rice, powers and clinton along with obama decided to intervene without approval from congress (which would have given them cover later). so obama rice clinton and powers own this thing. when something went wrong they tried to shift the blame at least partially to right wingers producing instability. so there is a very clear political motivation for rice. doesn't mean she lied on TV, but she did have reason to skew the public's view of events in libya.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45085831547672799632012-11-23T07:46:06.257-05:002012-11-23T07:46:06.257-05:00Don't forget that the U.N. sent in Hans Blix a...Don't forget that the U.N. sent in Hans Blix and a team of inspectors once the pressure got to Saddam and he let them back in.<br /><br />Blix was reporting that the U.N. team could find nothing, so the right wing spin was that Saddam hid all his WMDs before they got there, and/or Blix was too inept and too dumb to find them.<br /><br />So Bush invaded anyway.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83932718324527570752012-11-23T07:41:19.065-05:002012-11-23T07:41:19.065-05:00"Desperate"? For what purpose? Look, I a..."Desperate"? For what purpose? Look, I agree with your earlier assessment that Rice shouldn't have said anything she didn't know to be 100 percent certain without citing other possible scenarios.<br /><br />This is where the whole right-wing conspiracy theory about Benghazi falls completely apart. You can't come up with a single reason that the entire Obama administration would have for spinning a tale about how this attack grew from a spontaneous demonstration.<br /><br />Sorry, but "we got terrorism on the run" ain't it. You'd have to be a damned fool to think terrorism could have been stopped worldwide in four years any more than murder could be stopped in the United States.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18386884171363578322012-11-22T11:31:06.429-05:002012-11-22T11:31:06.429-05:00Actually, "Highly" strikes me as not a F...Actually, "Highly" strikes me as not a Fox guy, but the kind that stays up all night listening to Pacifica, learning the bitter truth about "Empire." And how to snatch a phrase, like say, "spun out of control" decides it means something that it doesn't, and then keeps repeating it over and over so he can ignore what She actually said. Nice try in rendering some sanity, Anom, but you were doomed from the get go.... Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73711805581874637072012-11-22T10:46:25.728-05:002012-11-22T10:46:25.728-05:00The people that believed that Saddam Hussein MUST ...The people that believed that Saddam Hussein MUST have WMD were basing that conclusion on the best possible evidence at hand, and they were using good reasoning to reach that conclusion.<br /><br />Of course, we hadn't heard from Joe Wilson yet. We only heard the President, Vice-President, National Security Advisor, and the Secretary of State. Who ya gonna believe?<br /><br />The problem: The conclusion, logical as it was, was wrong.<br /><br />As far as spinning out of control, Republican leaders have ignored John McCain's interpretation, which is a highly inadequate construct from the mind of a doddering old fool.<br /><br />Some Republicans have entered a temporary fugue state of mental clarity resulting from a dose of reality. <br /><br />Obviously, some haven't.<br /><br />gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87639576947160456552012-11-21T21:47:48.391-05:002012-11-21T21:47:48.391-05:00Pretty much everything everyone says is slanted, o...Pretty much everything everyone says is slanted, or inaccurate in some way, more or less, and this is even more so when government officials and politicians make statements. Read Machiavelli to help understand this. This being the case, you guys, adequate, ABL , Jonst are not making the case that there was anything to get bent out of shape about in what Rice said, which was that the facts weren't completely known yet. THD, I think in this instance, if not in every other instance, is right on the mark in his stance. He's not the one who is dragging this out, it's the MSM by over and over misquoting and distorting what Rice said. Comparing what Rice said to the run up to Iraq - pretty absurd. You guys sound like you're lying in bed next to Lindsey Graham on this.<br /><br />And I notice you don't refute one thing that I said. <br /><br />It's one thing to criticize the dems for largely continuing the Bush (and long before that) policies, but twisting Rice's relatively innocuous statement into some grand deceit seems senseless. If the press wants to attack Obama, let them do it because he is directing drones on civilians, not this idiotic Whitewater type garbage.<br /><br />AC / MAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27170970339809716512012-11-21T19:55:54.309-05:002012-11-21T19:55:54.309-05:00nonojkwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12302566512412284002012-11-21T19:49:49.823-05:002012-11-21T19:49:49.823-05:00Doesn't reading this blog and writing all thes...Doesn't reading this blog and writing all these comments take away from your Fox viewing time? I don't see your comments as anything other than a desperate attempt to change the conversation away from the fact that Obama and us godless socialists just kicked your ass "reel" gud. Enjoy the next four years. I will. Sorry folks sometimes I just don't feel like being mature. adequately highnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28533831685825549032012-11-21T17:56:35.588-05:002012-11-21T17:56:35.588-05:00Is there any chance in hell that the NYT editorial...Is there any chance in hell that the NYT editorial staff is as mortified by this disgraceful Dowd performance as it should be?urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80212859236878001182012-11-21T17:53:51.734-05:002012-11-21T17:53:51.734-05:00Notice that highly is unable to propose anything w...Notice that highly is unable to propose anything whatsoever to meet your challenge.<br /><br />I watched exactly what she did and have read exactly what she said numerous times. What she was trying to get across more than anything was that it was premature to offer anything more than tentative conclusions. If highly thinks she should have done otherwise, I sure wouldn't want him with any role in our foreign affairs. Of course, he thinks she did do otherwise. She didn't, and there is no plausible argument why she would want to deceive anyone, but he will never believe it no matter how much his argument is dismantled. I suppose the only thing to do at this point is to let him keep muttering to himself.urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65670661328750445442012-11-21T16:54:31.119-05:002012-11-21T16:54:31.119-05:00Jonst,
This entire episode is completely depressi...Jonst,<br /><br />This entire episode is completely depressing -- one realizes that just about NOBODY has any real interest in the truth. <br /><br />To me, the parallels between the lies in the run-up to the Iraq war and the deception on Benghazi look about as alike as possible -- all the way down to an African-American woman named Rice being the designated dupe for spreading the misinformation, and the cynical cries of "racism" and "sexism" when the deception is called out.<br /><br />And all this for what? So, it seems, that our warmongering can go on as before, and our destruction of due process -- now enabled by people who like to pretend to be "liberals" for company.highly_adequatehttp://ccn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3405478056350828312012-11-21T16:18:45.136-05:002012-11-21T16:18:45.136-05:00Anonymous,
Look, if there were ANY way of interpr...Anonymous,<br /><br />Look, if there were ANY way of interpreting "just spun out of control" OTHER than as a desperate attempt to make the events appear spontaneous, perhaps there'd be a way to argue (even if very weakly) that Rice wasn't being deceptive here. And I have no doubt that she would have chosen another way of being deceptive that wouldn't catch her out had she been quick witted enough to think of it.<br /><br />The larger fact is, though, that this is just part of what she was trying to do in general with her misleading account -- this simply may have been the most obviously deceptive language.highly_adequatehttp://ccn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44152389489900054742012-11-21T15:39:51.954-05:002012-11-21T15:39:51.954-05:00You're going to hang your hat on "spun ou...You're going to hang your hat on "spun out of control"? That's your damning evidence?<br /><br />Has everyone in this country lost the ability to see in anything but black and white? Maybe some terrorists used an existing event to their advantage (spontaneously!). Maybe when the administration was putting together the Rice's talking points, they thought, "Let's get what we know out there, but how 'bout not going out of our way to hurt ourselves politically?" <br /><br />That's a scandal? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80594086562185109982012-11-21T15:34:32.877-05:002012-11-21T15:34:32.877-05:00Highly Adequate...give up. They don't listen. ...Highly Adequate...give up. They don't listen. They can see that the motives of people criticizing Rice are mean, self serving, and petty. They can see that some in the media gleefully, and in many cases, unfairly, with only a desire to hurt Obama, ran wild with a minor story, started--for the most part--by self serving opportunists. They can see that in the end this is nothing more than a game of gotcha, by the GOP. A game they play so well. <br /><br />So therefore, with all that, an much more like it, out there, IT CAN'T BE THAT RICE WAS OUT THERE SPINNING GARBAGE. All the above can't be true...and Rice wrong, intentionally, at the same time, can it? Nope. That can't be true....because, as Bob knows better than most, she, Rice, is from our tribe. She is on our team. <br /><br />Well, in any event, I'm just glad this decreases--somewhat, anyway, her chances of being SOS....some 19 y.o. might live longer absent her presence at Foggy Bottom...the blood thirsty Neoliberal interventionist that she is. <br /><br />jonstnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5653074210928150152012-11-21T14:43:51.971-05:002012-11-21T14:43:51.971-05:00Is this even hard?
Look, there are any number of ...Is this even hard?<br /><br />Look, there are any number of things she might have said that would have conveyed a fair sense of what was known, and what was not known. <br /><br />If she wanted to go "the fog of war" way, she should simply have said that we just don't know at this point whether it was spontaneous or premeditated, and left it at that. <br /><br />If she wanted to be less conservative in her presentation of what we could surmise, she could have presented the two possible scenarios, spontaneous and premeditated, with equal plausibility, but acknowledge we have yet to determine which we should credit.<br /><br />What she did instead was to play up as much as possible the spontaneous scenario, and dismiss as much as possible the premeditate scenario. That was a clear act of deception, given what we knew.<br /><br />Again, look at the quote I brought to your attention. I mean, things just "spun out of control"? How could that unqualified statement pass her lips, if she was trying to be fair, while in the same breath she dismisses any evidence of premeditation?highly_adequatehttp://ccn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65748951487118322272012-11-21T14:24:38.168-05:002012-11-21T14:24:38.168-05:00Or an alternative universe where misinformation by...Or an alternative universe where misinformation by government officials is considered negative, no matter which party those officials belong to.ABLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4534036134210275922012-11-21T14:16:23.782-05:002012-11-21T14:16:23.782-05:00OK, let's try this a different way, Hi. With t...OK, let's try this a different way, Hi. With the benefit of hindsight, what would you have had Ms. Rice say on Sept. 15?Quaker in a Basementnoreply@blogger.com