tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5453119031459381064..comments2024-03-28T19:53:08.795-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE IRON LAWS FOR DISCUSSING ELITES: Strange erratum!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-680680758034112392012-08-02T13:36:28.038-04:002012-08-02T13:36:28.038-04:00The book, whatever its faults (and it is quite fla...The book, whatever its faults (and it is quite flawed), is not about the press, is not about our media landscape, is not about the state of modern discourse.<br /><br />It is about the military and its use and misuse. <br /><br />That is, simply and obviously, not the topic of this blog, however much Greg might want it to be. It is a subject very clearly distinct from Somerby's daily concerns.<br /><br />Only a puerile troll would think that just because of its author's name it should be discussed here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36849441164678909972012-08-01T17:35:04.734-04:002012-08-01T17:35:04.734-04:00I'm glad you've come to the conclusion tha...I'm glad you've come to the conclusion that this blog has a particular focus, and that this is the prerogative of the blog owner.<br /><br />Now, your complaints when Somerby does just that, are revealed as being even more intentionally divisive and disruptive.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45877509678720115742012-08-01T17:24:45.952-04:002012-08-01T17:24:45.952-04:00I'd be interested in seeing if he dismisses it...I'd be interested in seeing if he dismisses it, since he is interested in hanging on to Maddow's every word. But I doubt he could, so, somewhat dishonestly, he just pretends it's not there.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7221090151744231772012-08-01T17:23:33.408-04:002012-08-01T17:23:33.408-04:00The topic of the blog is political reporting, thou...The topic of the blog is political reporting, though it does stray at times from that. If you want to limit yourself to a specific opinion on an isolated aspect of said as presented by TDH, that's your right, but you shouldn't expect everyone else to be so intellectually limited. If you just want Bob, then don't read the comments!Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83569155684757378162012-08-01T16:30:48.063-04:002012-08-01T16:30:48.063-04:00tl;dr
WHY oh why won't Somerby leave poor Chr...tl;dr<br /><br />WHY oh why won't Somerby leave poor Chris Hayes alone? <br /><br />There is so much more important work to be done in praising Rachel Maddow's less-than impressive book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-407347085192736152012-08-01T16:26:57.116-04:002012-08-01T16:26:57.116-04:00I know several daily watchers of the programs we&#...I know several daily watchers of the programs we're talking about. <br /><br />They couldn't be more in thrall to the writ handed down from O'Donnell and Maddow.<br /><br />Greg, you don't know what you're talking about. Which is no shock, of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65839852023755671342012-08-01T16:03:35.523-04:002012-08-01T16:03:35.523-04:00Talk about sophistry.
Did you even bother tryin...Talk about sophistry. <br /><br />Did you even bother trying to understand my points?oldmancoyote22noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3288131033188874122012-08-01T15:29:40.220-04:002012-08-01T15:29:40.220-04:00Right. You can't even tolerate criticism of ...Right. You can't even tolerate criticism of liberal tv hosts.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81896801586029396972012-08-01T15:25:27.224-04:002012-08-01T15:25:27.224-04:00Huh?Huh?CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62275980999533461942012-08-01T14:58:00.652-04:002012-08-01T14:58:00.652-04:00OH, sorry for mentioning Rachel Maddow, I know She...OH, sorry for mentioning Rachel Maddow, I know She's off limits around here!Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50817286852908336292012-08-01T14:57:24.156-04:002012-08-01T14:57:24.156-04:00Sophistry sandwich, Oldman. Bob focuses, relentles...Sophistry sandwich, Oldman. Bob focuses, relentlessly, on Rachel Maddow. Except when it doesn't fit his harangue.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46024360038703430392012-08-01T14:05:24.165-04:002012-08-01T14:05:24.165-04:00Oh, you'll soon discover that they are utter t...Oh, you'll soon discover that they are utter tyrants. Unabashed and merciless.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83114573157772534542012-08-01T13:58:00.850-04:002012-08-01T13:58:00.850-04:00Adding - I have never read another blog where the ...Adding - I have never read another blog where the commenters so relentlessly demand it to be a blog about something else. It's mind-boggling.oldmancoyote22noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11576072031389582792012-08-01T13:57:09.624-04:002012-08-01T13:57:09.624-04:00Oh, God. Maddow's book again. You really don...Oh, God. Maddow's book again. You really don't want Bob to review it. <br /><br />She's not a historian and there's nothing particularly enlightening about her thesis. I liked the book better when it was written by Gore Vidal and it was called Perpetual War. <br /><br />We've been a war happy country pretty much since the beginning. She started with Vietnam but could just have easily started with WWII and the Korean War. <br /><br />Bob focuses on the media. It's a blog about media coverage, mostly as it pertains to politics. Every now and again, he branches out but only in passing. Maddow's work on her tv show is right squarely within the scope of his chosen purview. <br /><br />Give it a rest.oldmancoyote22noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52622745253804647802012-08-01T13:51:06.208-04:002012-08-01T13:51:06.208-04:00Because it is based on a non existent, bizarre con...Because it is based on a non existent, bizarre concept of the "we" following slavishly "the one true liberal channel." Nonsense, at best.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78330717191864010962012-08-01T13:49:14.410-04:002012-08-01T13:49:14.410-04:00Some good work here, but it must be said the corru...Some good work here, but it must be said the corrupting factor of money, and media for blockbuster profits is not exactly late breaking news. It seems an insoluble problem, and I can think of no better way to fight it than to leave grudges aside, praise the good work when it occurs and make sure the worst of the bad is not taken lightly. <br /><br /> As to the former, it would seem the Daily Howler refuses to do this in the case of Maddow's book "Drift." a tome that might do some real good and which he rather bizarrely chooses to ignore. In general it must be observed, however, that the Daily Howler does not do Defense, a huge flaw in the Press in general that he would seem to share. <br /> <br /> As to the latter, well, for a bit of perspective we might consider the example of this past week's media blitz by Judge Anton Scalia. By any objective application of the term Judge Scalia is, quite obviously, a crook. He has used the public trust for personal profit, as he shamelessly fields the softballs thrown his way by "journalists" like Peirs Morgan, rich men who made the fortunes carrying water for Rupert Murdoch. <br /> "Judge Scalia, do you think it was appropriate for your son to take a job in the Bush White House right after your ruling which handed him, as popular vote loser, the election?" <br /> Fat chance. But this standard had been set by the millionaires at 60 Minutes when they did a commeri- er, interview with Scalia's partner in crime Clarence Thomas, pimping the tome Murdoch had given him a million dollar advance to write. <br /> Hang your heads in shame, American Right Wing, this is the whorehouse you have made in our Country. And I invite those who speak of tribalism, or would suggest I would tolerate the same thing on the left, to place it in the sunless confines of their own rectums. <br /> You might think Scalia and even the lack of attention given to it in the press might draw some notice around here. I'm afraid, however, the Daily Howler has much, much smaller fish to fry.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76689687952574875692012-08-01T13:38:26.614-04:002012-08-01T13:38:26.614-04:00Good job, AI; the air is thick with butthurt.Good job, AI; the air is thick with butthurt.Matt in the Crownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02083162679471045642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49113878629746412222012-08-01T13:37:26.844-04:002012-08-01T13:37:26.844-04:00Because the biggest mistake we can make, the one t...Because the biggest mistake we can make, the one that will lead to loss after loss on issue after issue, is to believe we got it all figured out. We can't afford to believe that the One True Liberal Channel actually represents liberal interests and liberal values. <br /><br />Why? <br /><br />Because they don't. <br /><br />To believe that is to lose any semblance of a chance to win out in the end. We cannot defeat our enemy by becoming them. <br /><br />Is that such an "odd take"?oldmancoyote22noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68031249483108845032012-08-01T13:16:12.256-04:002012-08-01T13:16:12.256-04:00If you really believe that there is no problem wit...If you really believe that there is no problem with almost exclusively critiquing the left on these problems, why don't you try to support this rather odd take and spare us the childish, redundant sarcasm?Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91461981583255728882012-08-01T12:12:49.545-04:002012-08-01T12:12:49.545-04:00"A cynic would say that this type of conduct ..."A cynic would say that this type of conduct is described right in Hayes’ book."<br /><br />Or maybe a realist.<br /><br />But you have to agree, FOX is much worse.<br /><br />And therefore you are making a false equivalency, because I, a free-thinker, say so.<br /><br />Therefore you should stop criticising Hayes and MSNBC and focus exclusively on the real problem: FOX.The Anonymous Idiotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83277847771413532592012-08-01T11:18:01.373-04:002012-08-01T11:18:01.373-04:00To quote a brilliant guy who was speaking about an...To quote a brilliant guy who was speaking about anti- capitalists at the time, the same holds tre for our uber-capitalists:<br /><br />"Men forgot about God."-- SolzhenitsynCeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.com