tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5524264322379775956..comments2024-03-18T23:40:21.985-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE COLLINS RULES: A bit of a regional bigot!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42143583612420516542023-11-08T09:10:04.590-05:002023-11-08T09:10:04.590-05:00ggdb
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...Again, this is all nothing at all, lowercase guy.<br /><br />To take one of your examples:<br /><br />"We grew up Boston Irish Catholic ourselves—but somehow managed to move past the 50s. But make no mistake—Washington punditry in the past fifteen years has been heavily driven by a group of retrograde, 50s-era Irish Catholics."<br /><br />Explain exactly how this shows Bob Somerby is a bigot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13042488824307188182012-06-28T09:51:51.601-04:002012-06-28T09:51:51.601-04:00cant find a free online link to the annual review ...cant find a free online link to the annual review of sociology article quoted from above. . . . possible to get access to the database jstor thru a local community or college library.hugh mannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32927651270813804022012-06-28T08:57:58.660-04:002012-06-28T08:57:58.660-04:00note particularly the last sentence of the last pa...note particularly the last sentence of the last paragraph of this quote from page 96 of annual review of sociology, volume 5, 1979:<br /><br />“Irish Catholics, incidentally, are the most politically liberal Gentile ethnic group in the country; they are the most pro-integration of any Gentile <br />group.” <br /><br />from page 96 of annual review of sociology, volume 5, 1979:<br /><br />Four NORC articles monitoring racial integration (Hyman & Sheatsley 1964; Greeley & <br />Sheatsley 1971; Greeley & Sheatsley 1974; Taylor, Sheatsley & Greeley 1978) have demonstrated that Catholics are more likely to support racial integration than other white groups, even outside the South. Taylor, Sheatsley & Greeley (1978) could find no evidence of the alleged white ethnic backlash against racial integration. They also found that Irish, German, and Italian Catholics outside the South continued to be above the <br />Anglo-Saxon Protestant average in their support for racial integration. Indeed, Irish Catholics were even more likely than Jews to be willing to accept for their children a school where most of the students were black. More than 70% of the Catholic parents in the country, according to Greeley, McCready & McCourt (1976), report their children are in integrated schools. A positive correlation exists between Catholic school attendance and support for racial integration, as well as opposition to anti-Semitism. <br /><br />Reviewing the present state of the literature, Greeley (1978b) concluded that on the average Catholics remain where they were a quarter of a century <br />ago-slightly to the left of center in the Democratic coalition, less leftist on <br />most issues than blacks and Jews but more leftist than white Protestants, even white Protestants of the North who describe themselves as Democrats. Nie, Petrocik & Verba (1976) reported the same findings. <br /><br />In summary, despite conviction to the contrary in many quarters, <br />Catholics continue to be moderate Democrats; more strongly than other than other Democrats and other white northern Americans, they support racial integration. Irish Catholics, incidentally, are the most politically liberal Gentile ethnic group in the country; they are the most pro-integration of any Gentile group.hugh mannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12046751006978357362012-06-28T07:36:47.504-04:002012-06-28T07:36:47.504-04:00Dec. 21, 2006:
"We grew up Boston Irish Cath...Dec. 21, 2006:<br /><br />"We grew up Boston Irish Catholic ourselves—but somehow managed to move past the 50s. But make no mistake—Washington punditry in the past fifteen years has been heavily driven by a group of retrograde, 50s-era Irish Catholics."<br /><br />June 23, 2008:<br /><br />"Awkward though it may be to say so, Dowd’s lunacy is the expression of a particular culture—a throwback form of Irish Catholic culture which most Irish Catholics have had the good sense to move far away from, long ago. But Dowd, and Matthews, and many others, have propagated this viral illness as it has damaged our public discourse over the past many years. We Irish! We sat on TV all last week and proclaimed how much we love the truth—how superior we are in that regard, thanks to our days with the nuns and the Jesuits."<br /><br />I would also refer to his entire post of March 4, 2008. In fact, Somerby was going particularly batty about Irish Catholic culture for months in that era.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28810585044793191142012-06-28T07:32:07.323-04:002012-06-28T07:32:07.323-04:00Here's what Texas health care is like: http://...Here's what Texas health care is like: http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2012/June/21/houston-texas-uninsured.aspxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29109374882335578722012-06-28T07:17:01.071-04:002012-06-28T07:17:01.071-04:00Well, here's some help from the first column I...Well, here's some help from the first column I clicked, written Jan. 31, 2007:<br /><br />"Let’s state the obvious. There’s nothing wrong with being Irish Catholic. Indeed, we grew up (Boston) Irish Catholic ourselves. Our sainted mother was Irish Catholic. So was our grandmother, Ann Callahan; so were our four beloved aunts. [Sidebar: No one in our family had ever gone to college. But Ann Callahan told us, from Day One, that we’d be going to Harvard, just like the Kennedys did. God bless the hearts of the Boston Irish who rejected “No Irish need apply!”] Of course, most of us raised Irish Catholic in the 50s and 60s somehow arranged to grow up and move on from the blinkered, throwback cultural instincts which have been the downside of that glorious culture. But uh-oh! Some others have plainly not moved on. And a large number of these people now seem to work as opinion leaders inside our mainstream press corps. <br /><br />"Yep! A surprising number—including Matthews and Dowd—now work as opinion leaders inside our millionaire press corps. Unfortunately, their mossback, blinkered social instincts have driven a great deal of our political discourse over the past fifteen years."<br /><br />--<br /><br />"Why do we finally raise the question of Irish Catholic culture? Because voters may need a bit of context when they consider the puzzling punditry being directed at Clinton. We Irish! For fifteen years, we’ve played a disproportionate role in the crackpot wars against Clinton/Gore/Clinton, and our hidebound instincts have flared up again in the days since Clinton announced. But because our members are so well-placed (and because they’re so determined), their instincts may acquire an air of common sense—an air they don’t deserve. When Dowd and Matthews and Barnicle (well named) bray and complain about Clinton’s gender, voters should understand what they’re seeing; they’re seeing the backwash of the cultural conservatism which has been the unattractive side of our otherwise glorious Irish Catholic culture."<br /><br />Utter bullshit!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50078852697022159212012-06-28T07:02:53.174-04:002012-06-28T07:02:53.174-04:00Just curious, Typical. If you truly want substanti...Just curious, Typical. If you truly want substantive political dialogue, why do you come here? To cluck your tongue and laugh at how dumb those "other" pundits at the NYT and MSNBC are, and talk about how much smarter you are than "those" dumb "rubes" who read and watch them?<br /><br />Or maybe to discuss how easily confused the great unwashed masses will be by a variety of voices, unless every "liberal" pundit sticks exactly to the Somerby talking points and expresses them in exactly the way Somerby dictates?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21359040780212414332012-06-28T04:28:02.440-04:002012-06-28T04:28:02.440-04:00"I'm not criticizing, just curious."..."I'm not criticizing, just curious."<br /><br />Oh, that's rich!<br /><br />(No, I don't work for this site or any other one.)CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52974656202708532912012-06-28T01:15:50.785-04:002012-06-28T01:15:50.785-04:00Sorry, should have said "I drove across part ...Sorry, should have said "I drove across part of Texas several times...."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43667567729017041172012-06-28T00:06:38.409-04:002012-06-28T00:06:38.409-04:00hugh mann it may be the type of account you post w...hugh mann it may be the type of account you post with. i wouldn't know because i'm always anon but that's my hypothesisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1101981874679078782012-06-27T23:37:51.158-04:002012-06-27T23:37:51.158-04:00Yes, let's move on to talking about Mitt Romne...Yes, let's move on to talking about Mitt Romney's dog, or laughing at the dumb conservatives,or praising Obama for his chessplaying brilliance, you know, the important stuff. Sometimes I want to scream at Paul Krugman, "Stop talking about the economy all the time. I don't care about those unemployed people!" Then I realize there are other blogs out there, and I'm choosing to read Krugman, and I almost feel dumb, except, of course, as an online liberal, I know I'm too smart to be dumb.Typical Internet Liberalhttp://til.xyz.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53996822817196702562012-06-27T21:35:46.893-04:002012-06-27T21:35:46.893-04:00so then r u and gravymeister maybe hired by the si...so then r u and gravymeister maybe hired by the site and so u have access to some kind of special moderator version of the site? im not criticizing, just curious.hugh mannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54280775797671367492012-06-27T21:30:12.396-04:002012-06-27T21:30:12.396-04:00and i dont remember anyone but gravymeister doing ...and i dont remember anyone but gravymeister doing it.hugh mannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74991711739730233942012-06-27T21:24:53.748-04:002012-06-27T21:24:53.748-04:00i dont see a delete button under my posted comment...i dont see a delete button under my posted comments.hugh mannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84934130880146272372012-06-27T21:00:58.387-04:002012-06-27T21:00:58.387-04:00Deleting a comment has something to do with the li...Deleting a comment has something to do with the little delete button that appears under your message after you've posted it.<br /><br />Just a guess here...CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4898324511354601732012-06-27T20:38:02.187-04:002012-06-27T20:38:02.187-04:00gravymeister, may i ask how u delete a comment? i...gravymeister, may i ask how u delete a comment? ive seen you do it a number of times before. do u have a special connection to this site?hugh mannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91140114283697876212012-06-27T20:31:21.934-04:002012-06-27T20:31:21.934-04:00"In other words, yes, you think just the hits..."In other words, yes, you think just the hits prove it."<br /><br />no i dont think that. u have to to click on some of the search results and then scan the column or use the find function in your browser (ctrl + f) to help find the search terms. and then read further ones which look promising... and go on to the next result quickly if u find nothing of interest.<br /><br />btw, u also can to good effect add the word irish to a person or group of names such as:<br /><br />site:http://dailyhowler.com dowd matthews irishhugh mannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7885872783118073852012-06-27T18:58:16.993-04:002012-06-27T18:58:16.993-04:00More on Collin's book, and nothing on Maddows....More on Collin's book, and nothing on Maddows. Switch off the light and curse the darkness.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15382616693388975392012-06-27T18:51:33.750-04:002012-06-27T18:51:33.750-04:00Your comment from today, for example.
There aint ...Your comment from today, for example.<br /><br />There aint no meat on that thing, buddy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54011150106279015582012-06-27T18:50:46.242-04:002012-06-27T18:50:46.242-04:00In other words, yes, you think just the hits prove...In other words, yes, you think just the hits prove it.<br /><br />Because you've shown nothing here, other than *mentions*.<br /><br />And that proves squat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73459447368514094722012-06-27T18:43:49.034-04:002012-06-27T18:43:49.034-04:00"I drove across part of Texas."
Cute.
M..."I drove across part of Texas."<br />Cute.<br /><br />My parents retired in San Antonio in 1972.<br />I moved to Arizona in 1975.<br />I buried them both at Arlington National Cemetery last year.<br /><br />I visited them three or four times a year, mostly by driving just shy of 1000 miles one-way.<br />You do the math, since you're the smart one in the group.gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1278272686389311652012-06-27T18:35:10.299-04:002012-06-27T18:35:10.299-04:00lowercaseguy,
I did go there and found nothing to ...lowercaseguy,<br />I did go there and found nothing to substantiate your charge of bigotry.gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16186680063148621652012-06-27T18:31:23.553-04:002012-06-27T18:31:23.553-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.com