tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5688724442768708983..comments2024-03-18T21:50:44.748-04:00Comments on the daily howler: "Cable news" covers the Rittenhouse trial!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82972283485920703902021-11-15T20:17:51.784-05:002021-11-15T20:17:51.784-05:00Cecilia, I have always been impressed with several...Cecilia, I have always been impressed with several aspects of your posts here. We often disagree politically, but what you say is always clear, and at least you don’t hide behind being anonymous. <br /><br />Is it really so hard for you fake-nameless mofos to come up with a pseudonym, just so readers can tell which particular idiot stick is jabbering on at any particular point in time? Cecilia nails it above. You’re scared to do it precisely because you could then be directly (though still anonymously, for those who somehow miss that simple fact) linked to the nonsense you blather. Scared of your own shadows much? Ironically, yes you are, though you seemingly don’t sense that you have long since become shadows of your best selves, simply by dint of your own self-indulgent rhetorical cowardice. Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09411393256656761429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18075089433970581062021-11-15T11:26:19.504-05:002021-11-15T11:26:19.504-05:007:12,
I'm no mind reader, but I'm pretty s...7:12,<br />I'm no mind reader, but I'm pretty sure David already knows what you wrote is true. His bad faith arguments are a form of denial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18155947420388504652021-11-15T08:54:57.913-05:002021-11-15T08:54:57.913-05:00Bob's carping about the left's bloodthirst...Bob's carping about the left's bloodthirsty aspect in this matter might be worth considering, had he ever written a word about Trump and the Central Park Five. In any event, it's hard to believe Bob is surprised by these proceedings, self defensive was always going to be a viable claim and this was noted by journalists who wrote about this case from the start. "Morning Joe" we should note, is awful but often cuts both ways politically. <br /> That Bob has no interest is the freakish performance by the judge in this case, who cracks cornball anti Biden jokes and asks the jury to APPLAUD defense witnesses is sadly not surprising. The Dylan tune Bob never heard, one supposes, is "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carrol." Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71973123111069461082021-11-15T07:12:52.262-05:002021-11-15T07:12:52.262-05:00David in Cal,
The 2nd Amendment is to fight the ty...David in Cal,<br />The 2nd Amendment is to fight the tyranny of the government (i.e. shoot police officers). If gun sales are booming, it's because people fear the police more and more every day.<br />If you graphed the increase in gun sales, it would align with the increase of talk about de-funding the police, and getting rid of their qualified immunity almost perfectly.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42347599775721137822021-11-15T04:09:57.582-05:002021-11-15T04:09:57.582-05:00For people in power -- and certainly for their bot...For people in power -- and certainly for their bots, Cecelia. The point of having power is being able to raise armies. Armies of state functionaries, street thugs, media stooges, and - yes - bots. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48248174167145197112021-11-14T19:02:48.933-05:002021-11-14T19:02:48.933-05:00"I’m sorry, but there’s too many video showin..."I’m sorry, but there’s too many video showing the crowds that were rioting and looting and the people screaming in the faces of police officers."<br /><br />*************Red Herring Alert********<br /><br />You've seen far too many videos of cops assaulting citizens, but that hasn't influenced how you feel about cops in the slightest.<br /><br />Let's face it. You're nothing but a Right-wing troll.<br /><br />Now go home and cry about how I just "cancel cultured" (criticized) you, you miserable piece of shit.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19197297684129654382021-11-14T18:55:40.466-05:002021-11-14T18:55:40.466-05:00"I reserve cynicism for people in power."..."I reserve cynicism for people in power."<br /><br />Big deal. So does Mao. That's why neither of you are cynical towards Trump.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70578810736159461522021-11-14T18:51:46.286-05:002021-11-14T18:51:46.286-05:00Cecelia,
Your jokes are worth a million dollars le...Cecelia,<br />Your jokes are worth a million dollars less than what I'm paying for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43701970141647428112021-11-14T18:47:58.659-05:002021-11-14T18:47:58.659-05:00Thanks for the link, @4:27. It's like a poem....Thanks for the link, @4:27. It's like a poem. It presents a picture, but it's devoid of facts.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19603891067030259102021-11-14T17:40:57.467-05:002021-11-14T17:40:57.467-05:00Those stats I quoted weren't only for George F...Those stats I quoted weren't only for George Floyd protests but for all of the BLM protests, and the damage you quote was not committed by protesters, it represents insurance claims by small businesses. If you don't believe those were inflated, you don't know how such things operate. The Axios quote was 1-2 billion, not 2 billion.<br /><br />I don't consider property damage violence. For one thing, looting occurs because opportunists and poor people steal stuff while the police are busy harrassing marchers. The marchers don't do the looting. Second, fires being set during riots are not peaceful demonstrations or any kind of demonstration. They happen after sporting events! They are people expressing their frustration with the problems in their lives. And it isn't protesters doing that either. In some of the BLM protests, anti-BLM groups deliberately set fires (such as burning the police department building) in order to attach blame to the protesters and/or start a race riot/civil war. That kind of thing, done by the alt-right, is included in the insurance stats you cite, but didn't result from the protest. It is terrorism committed by the alt-right.<br /><br />You really need to read the links I provided and not just the ones that support your current point of view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15972524876050527112021-11-14T17:32:44.947-05:002021-11-14T17:32:44.947-05:00It’s easy to get cynical, but I reserve cynicism f...It’s easy to get cynical, but I reserve cynicism for people in power. Not for militant ideologues daily writing 5000 words apiece against a blogger. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6530813246123770512021-11-14T17:13:50.444-05:002021-11-14T17:13:50.444-05:00That's not partisanship, Cecelia. It's dem...That's not partisanship, Cecelia. It's dembottery. Partisanship is when you say that one group of politicians is preferable, and you suggest a sensible explanation. <br /><br />You get exposed to all this brain-dead dembottery, and you become cynical. That's a mistake, in our opinion. <br /><br />These here dembots are bots. And what they do is not 'partisanship'. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85990282480348447052021-11-14T16:44:52.414-05:002021-11-14T16:44:52.414-05:00Anonymouse 4:32pm, you can’t comprehend that you a...Anonymouse 4:32pm, you can’t comprehend that you are utterly generalizing when you say that the George Floyd protests were largely peaceful—except for almost two almost 2billion in property damage? <br /><br />Right. Most of our 50 states weren’t affected by rioting either…<br /><br />Yahoo! <br /><br /> <br /><br />Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68477647058366397992021-11-14T16:33:25.438-05:002021-11-14T16:33:25.438-05:00Anonymouse 3:38pm, you’re not being fair to other ...Anonymouse 3:38pm, you’re not being fair to other liberals.they are not anonymouse clones.<br /><br />Yes, we know when Republicans win it’s always by voter suppression and when Democrats win it’s a moral victory. <br /><br />That’s partisanship. That’s the things that partisans say. I have no problem with that dynamic and in fact, just today this caused an Anonymouse to say that I wasn’t particularly interested in politics. I suppose, if in his book, I was interested, I’d be doing something natural such as citing Mengelesque studies about the pathological nature of all my political contrarians. <br /><br />Granted, THAT is the stuff of anonymices. You are militants who can’t tolerate any dissent and don’t even play well with fellow liberals who don’t concur with your views about Somerby or with your vehemence. <br /><br />I think the liberal non-anynonmices don’t consider themselves to be your clones. I also suspect that they find that remark very telling, indeed. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41980837471233331682021-11-14T16:32:03.737-05:002021-11-14T16:32:03.737-05:00How many videos have you seen of the many hours an...How many videos have you seen of the many hours and thousands of people peacefully marching? How many videos have shown you footage of nothing happening but demonstrators making their views know, peacefully?<br /><br />They only show the tiny minority (around 5%) of demonstrations where there is violence. The % is roughly equivalent to crime rates for other types of events, such as shopping at a mall or attending a concert (where the performer doesn't incite a stampede).<br /><br />The term cherry-picking fits the tendency of news shows to only show the violence, as they did during hurricane Katrina, and not the hundreds of thousands of peaceful people gathered to protest police wrongdoing.<br /><br />You are overgeneralizing the scenes you've seen in such videos and mistakenly attributing them to groups such as BLM, liberals, and antifa (a group that doesn't exist). You no doubt do this because Fox tells you too, just as Somerby repeats the things Hannity tells him to, much like Trump did while president.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53876147159570927432021-11-14T16:27:29.759-05:002021-11-14T16:27:29.759-05:00Somerby and other conservatives need to read this:...Somerby and other conservatives need to read this:<br /><br />https://www.theroot.com/weaponizing-woke-an-brief-history-of-white-definitions-1848031729?utm_source=theroot_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-11-13Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48918171281106897412021-11-14T15:39:42.140-05:002021-11-14T15:39:42.140-05:00I’m sorry, but there’s too many video showing the ...I’m sorry, but there’s too many video showing the crowds that were rioting and looting and the people screaming in the faces of police officers. <br /><br />Anonymices may have collective amnesia about how they justified the violence of that summer, but no one else does. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38487637912377392182021-11-14T15:38:27.145-05:002021-11-14T15:38:27.145-05:00Cecelia, the majority in this country is populated...Cecelia, the majority in this country is populated by me and my clones. That's why you guys need to work so hard at vote suppression and subversion of the electoral process -- you cannot win on your own merits, except in rural areas and red enclaves, disappearing and on their way out nationwide. That's why your ilk are resorting to violence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13601781253851171782021-11-14T15:35:30.906-05:002021-11-14T15:35:30.906-05:00You mean there aren't a thousand Fox-watching ...You mean there aren't a thousand Fox-watching alt-right Trump-supporting conservatives who buy it. The rest of us are in touch with reality and believe what is shown to be true.<br /><br />I am absolutely certain that you, Cecelia, have never been to a BLM demonstration and have no idea what happens at them. You see some looting and accept the generalization of rare property damage, often committed by opportunists and alt-right activists and not protesters, and believe that all black, poor, and liberals commit such acts, because Fox tells you so. You are the dupe of the right, which takes your vote and your donations and gives you absolutely nothing in return (unless you are wealthy and want a tax cut). It sucks to be you because you are being played. And not by the left, by your own side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73802367580727273632021-11-14T15:10:11.134-05:002021-11-14T15:10:11.134-05:00We spent a summer here being told that violence wa...We spent a summer here being told that violence was the inevitable response to being victimized. That the police deserved to have firebombs and soup cans thrown at them because the police are legalized killers.<br /><br />We were told, in the manner of Marie Antonette, that it was only buildings (insured) that were being looted and burned and that being appalled at that meant we cared nothing about victimized minorities who were working out their inevitable rage at societal oppression. <br /><br />If fact, whenever looting and burning was mentioned we were immediately reminded about the venture capitalists who were guilty of lawlessness in the way that people who tried to destroy police precincts, churches, courthouses, and the property of local politicians were not. <br /><br />Now, after after the remarks that the riots were just, when it finally comes out that moronic leftist whites in lululemon and high dollar hotels cost us billions, we learn that “studies” have shown that it was all waged by conservatives and the Proud Boys. <br /><br />I’ve got news for you. There aren’t a thousand people on the planet who buy that. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10637130507887088932021-11-14T14:20:17.405-05:002021-11-14T14:20:17.405-05:00Anonymouse 2:00pm, there’s a chance that you would...Anonymouse 2:00pm, there’s a chance that you would be a better person if you weren’t so annoyed that the world isn’t populated by you and your clones. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72529121083335102362021-11-14T14:09:35.943-05:002021-11-14T14:09:35.943-05:00Somerby used to be listed on numerous liberal blog...Somerby used to be listed on numerous liberal blogrolls. That has changed as he has become more obviously conservative and bigoted in what he writes here. I don't know what happened to him, but he wouldn't be the first one to fall under Trump's spell. He was more circumspect in defending the Old South and showing his bigotry before, but is now letting it all hang out. <br /><br />Somerby may be smart, but he is not brilliant. If he were talented, he would have become more of a success in standup comedy, or politics, since he had opportunities in both fields. His bitterness and vendetta against professors suggest he isn't happy with his own accomplishments, given that he started with obvious advantages that he has been unable to convert into success. He needs to come to terms with his own life and stop promoting things that are bad for our country. Disappointment is no excuse for hurting people, as he does here when he defends miscreants and spreads misinformation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16066884351642576162021-11-14T13:52:43.100-05:002021-11-14T13:52:43.100-05:00Anonymous1:23pm, you might be on to something here...Anonymous1:23pm, you might be on to something here. <br /><br />Somerby is a glass-half-empty sort of person.<br /><br />He draws little attention from either party, though certainly talented and brilliant enough to have done anything. <br /><br />If anyone would pay him to be pessimistic and me to post, God knows, it would absolutely be the RNC. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-62318446939392602752021-11-14T13:31:22.103-05:002021-11-14T13:31:22.103-05:00To David:
"Pope Francis decried societies wh...To David:<br /><br />"Pope Francis decried societies which rush indifferently past the poor, often judging them instead of helping them, as he celebrated Sunday Mass in St. Peter’s Basilica attended by 2,000 indigent people."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81921283873362438072021-11-14T13:27:58.624-05:002021-11-14T13:27:58.624-05:00The defense is having a lot of trouble explaining ...The defense is having a lot of trouble explaining why Rittenhouse went to Kenosha. They are pretending he was a medic and that he had a job there, but why would even a 17 year old work so far from his home in a minimum wage job, when there are such jobs a lot closer?<br /><br />And why did he bring a gun if he was serving as a medic? Medics in the actual armed forces are not armed while carrying out their jobs in battle. Why would Rittenhouse be? And where were his medical supplies -- the ones he had no training to use? And why did he not help any of the victims he shot? Or anyone else?<br /><br />Somerby used to examine the gaping holes in stories like Rittenhouse's. Now he just repeats alt-right talking points, while pretending he isn't a bigot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com