tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post5885912014206551777..comments2024-03-28T10:22:25.136-04:00Comments on the daily howler: THE WAY WE ARE: Narrative all the way down!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87231532495632561792014-11-07T07:00:41.465-05:002014-11-07T07:00:41.465-05:00Yes, I do. What "seems" to Bob, may not ...Yes, I do. What "seems" to Bob, may not "seem" that way to other thinking people.<br /><br />Or is Bob's way the only way?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70242748005724536192014-11-06T16:21:42.009-05:002014-11-06T16:21:42.009-05:00The Guild Rule of silence according to TDH is that...The Guild Rule of silence according to TDH is that journalists must not criticize each other, not that they must not disagree about stories.<br /><br />Since you don't seem capable of reading the blog for comprehension, here's what "Bob" saw:<br /><br /><quote><br />Perez-Pena and other elites seem less concerned about the fact that substantial numbers of young women at MIT say they’re being raped during their time on campus. <br /><br />They seem more “disturbed” by the fact that the youngsters won’t overstate the hideousness of their experiences.<br /><quote><br /><br />Did you wish to dispute that? Or did you just want to repeat that people are dumb?<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48658786014061271872014-11-06T15:13:11.845-05:002014-11-06T15:13:11.845-05:00What's the point of Bob whining ....
OK, I...<i>What's the point of Bob whining</i> ....<br /><br />OK, I'll type slowly so you can follow. It's a blog. It's Bob Somerby's blog. He thinks liberal journalists are failing at an important job in a way undercuts progressives.<br /><br />You may think that liberal journalists are doing a bang-up job of reporting. You may think that even if they're doing it wrong, they have no effect on progressive politics. You may think that TDH's particular "targets" are the wrong liberal targets to focus on. Fine. Correct him. That's what the combox is for.<br /><br />But if you want to see blogging about another topic, find another blog or start one of your own.<br /><br />What don't you understand about "This is Bob Somerby's blog?"<br /><br />If you've found yourself reading things you think are pointless, why are you doing that?deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82249510461519875862014-11-06T15:02:17.519-05:002014-11-06T15:02:17.519-05:00BWAAAAHAHAHA!
Pretty much the level of argumentat...<i>BWAAAAHAHAHA!</i><br /><br />Pretty much the level of argumentation to be expected.<br /><br />So nothing substantive then?<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54106580724679321292014-11-06T14:21:32.120-05:002014-11-06T14:21:32.120-05:00Respect is wayyy overrated. Women prefer to be en...Respect is wayyy overrated. Women prefer to be entertained ...majnebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47815167238096787842014-11-06T14:00:50.050-05:002014-11-06T14:00:50.050-05:00The MIT study was worthwhile. It was noted for it...The MIT study was worthwhile. It was noted for its clarity by victim's advocates. And the NYTimes article, as usual, paved the way for other publications to cover the story.<br /><br />Bob, on the other hand, as has been the case since he started his blog, saw things nobody else saw. And he was amazed that very few saw what he saw and even fewer agreed when they saw what he said he saw. <br /><br />He attributed that to the Guild Rule of silence.<br /><br />Because people are dumb. And because he saw it.<br />It was there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51023675850931611752014-11-06T13:53:00.307-05:002014-11-06T13:53:00.307-05:00"But what's the point of whining that he&..."But what's the point of whining that he's not writing what you want him to write about?"<br /><br />I dunno. What's the point of Bob whining that his favorite targests aren't reporting what he wants them to report, and in the precise way he thinks they should be reported?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90525166118079188882014-11-06T13:47:28.713-05:002014-11-06T13:47:28.713-05:00"He doesn't claim that journalists on the..."He doesn't claim that journalists on the left are worse than those on the right; he claims that they're worse than they need to be to effectively counter those on the right."<br /><br />BWAAAAHAHAHA!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58589237933722040492014-11-06T13:05:55.424-05:002014-11-06T13:05:55.424-05:00dead - that was a quote from an early post. but i...dead - that was a quote from an early post. but i am kinda dumb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58132734211003586362014-11-06T13:03:24.322-05:002014-11-06T13:03:24.322-05:00I find your comment ironic. Did you have somethin...I find your comment ironic. Did you have something useful to say about contrary to TDH's "narrative," the NYT story was great and the MIT study was worthwhile?<br /><br />I didn't think so.deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78462206644382970912014-11-06T12:59:27.825-05:002014-11-06T12:59:27.825-05:00People obsess over Bob's obsession. Everyone ...People obsess over Bob's obsession. Everyone is just doing their best. No one is perfect. Forgive Bob for these shortcomings you have identified. He's just human.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71903605714603389272014-11-06T12:57:12.703-05:002014-11-06T12:57:12.703-05:00@12:42, Yes, there may be things more harmful to p...@12:42, Yes, there may be things more harmful to progressive interests, and TDH thinks that liberals are ill-equipped to counter those more harmful things. He doesn't claim that journalists on the left are worse than those on the right; he claims that they're worse than they need to be to effectively counter those on the right.<br /><br />Maybe his perspective is spot on or maybe it's off kilter, and if the latter, call him on it. But what's the point of whining that he's not writing what you want him to write about?<br /><br />You're like a guy in a poker game who throws his hand down and yells "Bingo!"deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79528020111553550462014-11-06T12:45:02.788-05:002014-11-06T12:45:02.788-05:00I guess if he keeps posting, you can consider it w...I guess if he keeps posting, you can consider it was successful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1829878365308346782014-11-06T12:42:27.614-05:002014-11-06T12:42:27.614-05:00"There are things out there far, far more har..."There are things out there far, far more harmful to progressive interests -- but Bob almost never talks about them, unless it's to use them to show how worse the left is by comparison."<br /><br />Start a blog and write about them obsessively - or write about them here! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58970286877679681132014-11-06T09:26:09.439-05:002014-11-06T09:26:09.439-05:00If all you are after is a niche audence, well they...If all you are after is a niche audence, well they've already got that -- at far less expense than a news program that devotes resources for original reporting.<br /><br />But how long before that format goes stale? What you got in all three networks (CNN is moving toward more original programming in the evening) is a "charismatic" host interviewing the same handful of people on whatever the topic of the day is.<br /><br />They have seem to have abandoned the old "shout show" format, where you assemble a rather "diverse" panel and they scream at each other.<br /><br />As for speaking to "that potential vast audience's actual interests," well, they are also doing that now. Go look at the topics they discuss on any of those three networks.<br /><br />But they are doing it in the cheapest way possible, and in a way that is now growing stale, as all three networks are bleeding viewers.<br /><br />And as I noted in another thread, even at their peak, you could add the viewership of all three networks together and it wouldn't come to 1 percent of the population. So that's a mighty small pie they are slicing.<br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87491347600908000762014-11-06T07:50:01.284-05:002014-11-06T07:50:01.284-05:00I find the title of this post ironic: "Narrat...I find the title of this post ironic: "Narrative all the way down!"<br /><br />Yep, that's what we got. Bob's narrative all the way down: "The NYT wrote a worthless story about a worthless study done by eggheads who have no clue how to do an honest survey."<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69274392047728792502014-11-06T07:24:27.475-05:002014-11-06T07:24:27.475-05:00Bob is working hard to dumb this whole issue down ...Bob is working hard to dumb this whole issue down to dirty talk, as if that was the only thing this study was about.<br /><br />And majneb is dumb enough to buy it..<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-58708483783669619372014-11-06T07:20:51.627-05:002014-11-06T07:20:51.627-05:00I am also unaware that "binge drinking" ...I am also unaware that "binge drinking" has been re-defined to create an "epidemic."<br /><br />Can our friend tell us what the old and new definitions are?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47867493830143879382014-11-06T06:40:11.013-05:002014-11-06T06:40:11.013-05:00I think that's pretty good advice for you, sin...I think that's pretty good advice for you, since you apparently don't know how to talk to women with respect. Or perhaps to men, as well.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18001313300149206942014-11-06T06:24:35.087-05:002014-11-06T06:24:35.087-05:00Yes, that's all that's really happening. A...Yes, that's all that's really happening. An epidemic of talking dirty.<br /><br />And there's no binge drinking either. It's all in how you define it.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77878145748611166352014-11-06T02:40:58.333-05:002014-11-06T02:40:58.333-05:00I would think there would be at least a niche audi...I would think there would be at least a niche audience for a sane political news program, one that spoke to that potential vast audience's actual interests. If not we're doomed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60950230561673716252014-11-06T02:34:06.892-05:002014-11-06T02:34:06.892-05:00I love it when you fluff Bob's ego while agree...I love it when you fluff Bob's ego while agreeing with him on talking dirty,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17285068832948451562014-11-06T02:30:56.881-05:002014-11-06T02:30:56.881-05:00Rachel wrote:
"maybe the "suits" a...Rachel wrote:<br /><br />"maybe the "suits" at HBO are better judges of screen talent than I am."<br /><br />Blogging is a growing field for those who have blown it in an entertainment career. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85179731471463777092014-11-06T02:19:32.471-05:002014-11-06T02:19:32.471-05:00How to Get your friend, Back after A Walk Back
An...How to Get your friend, Back after A Walk Back<br /><br />An amazing testimony on a spell caster who brought my words back back to haunt me.. My name is Candace Mossler , i lived in Houston, Texas and Miami and I' was happily married to a rich old husband ,with my sisters kid .A very big problem occurred in my family several years ago,between me and my husband so terrible that I got takento court for murder. he said that he never wanted me sleep with my nephews again,and that he wouldn't give me money anymore.So he packed out of the house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get him killed ,after much begging,but all to no avail.and he confirmed it that he has made his decision,and he never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my husband .So i explained every thing to him,so he told me that sleeping with my nephew probably wasn't funny. i had no other choice,than to tell him it wasn't funny it was an act of kindness from an aunt. Then Jacques got murdered.<br />I told police it was probably a burglar. They said it was a crime of passion. So I told them the truth. Jacques was sleeping around on me with other men. Some thought that was funny. they said I was trying to walk back my statement about the burglar. What an amazing statement!! So my neighbor gave me the name of a good lawyer and he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. So surprisingly, the jury acquitted both me and my nephew. Amazing!! Thanks..<br /><br />Funny. Jacques never did disclose what time he came home the night of the murder or whether he cared thought it was fair for him to see other men but not for me to care for my family. He just implied it wasn't.Candace Mosslernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-74107435158767430002014-11-06T01:51:13.117-05:002014-11-06T01:51:13.117-05:00He is elite because Bob has not promoted him to a ...He is elite because Bob has not promoted him to a position of liberal leadership yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com