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It also raised $1.25 million through the end of June, the majority of it in just one month. <br /><br />The Bloomberg article links to this website which must have been set up by Dowd's devious assistants:<br /><br />https://www.readyforhillary.com/<br /><br />Trollmesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19239765752211949132013-08-13T01:08:39.369-04:002013-08-13T01:08:39.369-04:00In the context of presenting an accurate media cri...In the context of presenting an accurate media critique, then certainly. MaxFrostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57645182599945402922013-08-12T20:47:41.660-04:002013-08-12T20:47:41.660-04:00And here's our host from 1999 going way-er bac...And here's our host <a href="http://www.dailyhowler.com/h051499_1.shtml" rel="nofollow">from 1999</a> going <i>way-er</i> back than Boo, looking for the launch of the, now wide-spread, modern era of <i>journamalism:</i><br /><br />>>>>> <br /><b>[Gay] JERVEY [in the now defunct <i>Brill's Content]:</i></b> [Dowd] has routinely been right on. Consider the following excerpt from November 14, 1996: “We live in a society where loyalty to self yields to no other loyalty. In this respect, Bill Clinton is the perfect hologram for his age...Despite the hugging and misting and sharing, the Great Empath has always been willing to sacrifice friends and advisers at a brisk pace, with a chilling lack of sentimentality.”<br /><br /><i>But this stock critique has been heard a thousand times, recycled without end by the press corps. Indeed, this view has been voiced so many times, it could be typed up by kids in their sleep. But to Jervey, Dowd is simply a whiz. Her research techniques are fantastic:</i><br /><br /><b>JERVEY:</b> Among Washington columnists, there is no keener observer of Bill Clinton than Maureen Dowd...[S]he seems obsessed with his personality, always looking for the key to his character--or rather, his utter lack thereof. In the summer of 1997, for example, when President Clinton installed a hot tub at the White House, Dowd traveled to Santa Monica to visit the showroom of the manufacturer who had made the President’s new toy. She wanted to test the waters...<br /><br /><i>Pointless field trips never end with this person! Jervey describes Dowd and five famous friends lounging about in the bubbling tub--after telling Brill readers that the trip showcased Dowd in her role as our “keenest observer.”</i><br /><br /><i>Bill Kovach’s account of Dowd’s strength as a writer may shed further light on the syndrome. Kovach, once editor to Dowd at the Times, recalled the 1984 Dem Convention:</i><br /><br /><b>JERVEY:</b> Even as a young reporter Dowd had an eye for telling detail and nuance...“We were on deadline,” Kovach explains. “Mondale and Ferraro had just been nominated...As the candidates stood on the platform, Maureen jumped up and grabbed me and said, ‘Look! Look! There is the story. Mondale doesn’t know whether to hug his wife or Ferraro. He doesn’t know what to do.’ She saw that signaled a new era, with women playing a whole new role in politics and men not quite knowing what to do.” That keen observation...crystallized for Kovach just how clairvoyant a reporter she was.<br /><br /><i>Clairvoyant! Forgive us for doubting that Mondale’s discomfort somehow rang in a giant new era. Dowd’s harping on it, though, may have signaled such an epoch, in which pundits like Dowd replace matters of substance with a personality-based worship of trivia (and with the love of other people’s discomfort).</i><<<<<CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71344671660766671032013-08-12T20:06:56.151-04:002013-08-12T20:06:56.151-04:00Greg writes:
>>>>> ...Powers went ...Greg writes:<br /><br />>>>>><i> ...Powers went back to reviewing movies for a fashion rag and Cooper now cracks invented the internet jokes from his Facebook page. But The Daily Howler should led you to believe it was just Mo.</i><<<<<<br /><br />I think maybe Greg has missed a few installments. Or maybe his beef is with <i>Media Matters'</i> <a href="http://mediamatters.org/research/2007/12/07/media-matters-by-jamison-foser/141891" rel="nofollow">Jamison Foser</a> from December, 2007, too, for also citing a particular 1992 Katherine Boo article-- or actually with Boo herself:<br /><br />Foser writes:<br /><br />>>>>><i>Though Halperin and Harris acknowledge that much of Drudge's material is inaccurate, that his "standards for sourcing and checking are dangerously low," that "Matt Drudge is salacious, reckless, superficial and unfair," and that he "leans right" politically, what is most striking about their chapter about Drudge is that at no point do they write that responsible journalists shouldn't take their cues from the frequently-wrong right-wing cybergossip.<br /><br />No, Matt Drudge isn't to blame. Not when journalists like Halperin and Harris can't even bring themselves to include in a chapter about Drudge a simple statement that news organizations shouldn't follow his lead. If Matt Drudge rules their world, he does so as an elected representative, not a cruel dictator.<br /><br />But, like Richard Ben Cramer, Matt Drudge is only one in a long line of scapegoats. Long before Drudge first typed the words "EXCLUSIVE! MUST CREDIT DRUDGE," media observers could see that something was wrong with their profession.<br /><br />In a November 1992 Washington Monthly article, Katherine Boo declared that Maureen Dowd, then a Washington correspondent for The New York Times, was "changing the standards of mainstream political journalism, for better and worse." Boo explained:</i><br /><br />***********<br />***********<br />She's funny frequently, sneering when necessary, earnest almost never -- a combination that makes Dowd, according to Washingtonian magazine, "the most feared" Washington reporter. She's also, hands down, the most imitated. Today's campaign planes and buses are freighted with Dowd disciples: hyperliterate capital-W Writers with an eye for detail and an ear for the shuffling going on behind the curtain.<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />So why is the Creeping Dowdism in political reporting starting to irritate me? [...] [W]hat's unsettling is the dark vision of the pointlessness of politics that Dowd and her followers deliver, a vision that an onslaught of bright images can't obscure. Preoccupied with the feints and counterfeints, the preposterous and the poseurs, they seem to believe, and then to promulgate, Dowd's own metaphor. The democratic process is reduced to Pirandello, to theater of the absurd. Trouble is, this audience can't get up and leave.<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />Yet among Dowd and disciples, the characterpainting continually shoulders out meaningful questions about what the pretenders to the Oval Office have in mind. Once Dowd allows us to know that [Bob] Kerrey has "large blue eyes and a light-bulb shaped head that give him the look of a bemused extraterrestrial," can we really take seriously the mechanics of his health-care proposal? Of course, in her preprimary profile of Kerrey, the health-care issue -- his campaign centerpiece -- never comes up. And why would it? In Dowd's character-centered conception, issues don't merit too much concern. They're largely props in "meticulous Kabuki dramas in which the candidates enact the themes they want to sell to voters in November."<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />To these bored and overexposed insiders, everybody eventually begins to seem absurd, predictable, incapable of sincerity, inspiration, or meaning -- undeserving of being "taken seriously."A game it is, then. Whoever pens the most metaphors wins.<br /><br />***********<br />***********<br /><<<<<CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33612258260201487072013-08-12T16:26:20.500-04:002013-08-12T16:26:20.500-04:00In terms of impact on the the 2000 election of Bu...In terms of impact on the the 2000 election of Bush in wake of sometimes freakish mainstream or even liberal media drubbings of Clinton/Gore, the Daily Howler reader gets a narrow selection at which to peer. Out West in the County's second biggest city, a raving clown name Marc Cooper led the pack in the town's once liberal "L.A. Weekly." Here he was followed closely by another tool on the media beat named John Powers. <br /><br /> These two idiots held down major space for years and used it to demonize Clinton and Gore to the furthest extreme they could manage. And it was always in trivial, sexy time fun, or a various "gate." Cooper was even called back by Ariana Huffington to decry the racist bitch Hillary Clinton for all it was worth until his new hero made her SOS. Powers went back to reviewing movies for a fashion rag and Cooper now cracks invented the internet jokes from his Facebook page. But The Daily Howler should led you to believe it was just Mo. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2702166101617888272013-08-12T16:16:50.545-04:002013-08-12T16:16:50.545-04:00But she's taking up space that could be occupi...But she's taking up space that could be occupied by someone who can do both parts of the job -- write well and have something to write well about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79364125093071215542013-08-12T16:14:57.886-04:002013-08-12T16:14:57.886-04:00You might have a point if Dowd were actually "...You might have a point if Dowd were actually "covering" that poll in any meaningful sense. Then again, polls taken in 2013 about an election in 2016 are pretty meaningless, by definition and there are better things to devote a column to. I don't think this question was begged at all. Somerby's post is about the fact that columnists are not doing their job -- that is pretty important in my opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38542675487960987842013-08-12T15:25:32.167-04:002013-08-12T15:25:32.167-04:00We've been going to Dowd for the all the hissi...We've been going to Dowd for the all the hissing that fits in print for nearly 20 years now. It's her claim to fame, her metier, her reason for being read. <br /><br />You want something different all of a sudden? You want George Will all of a sudden to stop being a grumpy old man (just as he's reaching the age he's been acting for 40 years)? You want Leon Wieseltier to suddenly stop being an opaque sententious snob and start writing columns that are actually communicative and cogent?<br /><br />You want Maureen Dowd to be more of a journalist and less of a Writer? Let's face it. The world of print journalism is divided between reporters who hate to write and writers who hate to report. Dowd obviously has always been of the latter school. I've never considered her Shakespeare, as some seem to; but it's clear she'd rather riff alliteratively on, say, an ashtray than go out and dig for a good ashtray story.<br /><br />As she lumbers toward emeritus status, her glamour girl photo never aging, just remember that, like the crocodile, she's unlikely to change what's worked for her throughout the aeons -- probably not even if Bezos buys the Times.Jeeves Stumphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17716700263908484003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8840664024752354722013-08-12T14:53:13.543-04:002013-08-12T14:53:13.543-04:00Begged Question of the Day
If a columnist who cov...Begged Question of the Day<br /><br />If a columnist who covers a poll about a possible 2016 Presidential Candidate in 2013 writes about "nothing",<br />then is a post regurgitating comments about another such column "something"? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20895501565704518672013-08-12T12:44:25.740-04:002013-08-12T12:44:25.740-04:00I wanted to comment about her column as well. Howe...I wanted to comment about her column as well. However, comments were closed before 10 AM central time.Alan Snipeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05070460889011106908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14186367824537164382013-08-12T12:39:26.029-04:002013-08-12T12:39:26.029-04:00I wish I could agree that people are finally wakin...I wish I could agree that people are finally waking up to Dowd's character, but I think much of the negative commentary is because Hillary Clinton has strong supporters who do not like seeing her trashed by anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14494135232953867682013-08-12T11:53:41.812-04:002013-08-12T11:53:41.812-04:00I was so pleased to find those critical comments: ...I was so pleased to find those critical comments: Maureen Dowd is a willfully disgraceful columnist, empty through and through with always a mean streak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com