tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post6105620717666346066..comments2024-03-28T18:17:57.067-04:00Comments on the daily howler: SEARCH FOR TOMORROW: Carranza's attempts to improve instruction...<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49952315618217316702021-07-27T14:19:12.910-04:002021-07-27T14:19:12.910-04:00
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Dr Believe truly you are the best, all thanks to you forever<br />Nitish Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17635701932421156767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78658005050779659712019-08-30T00:56:05.712-04:002019-08-30T00:56:05.712-04:00this is a pretty interesting and unusually accurat...this is a pretty interesting and unusually accurate response for MaoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13910583343905738022019-08-29T12:35:31.284-04:002019-08-29T12:35:31.284-04:00Don't kid a kidder, Sparky. If you were really...Don't kid a kidder, Sparky. If you were really uninterested, you'd have just quit reading when you got tired of sounding out the big words.deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23643915574268728742019-08-29T08:33:39.257-04:002019-08-29T08:33:39.257-04:0010:43/5:34 Uninteresting blatherer responds to uni...10:43/5:34 Uninteresting blatherer responds to uninteresting blatherer.<br /><br />Thanks for nothing cretins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24366193986857807672019-08-28T19:35:53.620-04:002019-08-28T19:35:53.620-04:00Much appreciated!Much appreciated!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11062454692757160952019-08-28T19:17:34.352-04:002019-08-28T19:17:34.352-04:00"If you don’t want to go to the library to re...<i>"If you don’t want to go to the library to read the </i>NYT<i>..."</i> there is a simple paywall workaround which allows anyone to read as many <i>Times</i> articles for free as they care to each month from any home computer with internet access.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19792732951165233242019-08-28T17:34:25.746-04:002019-08-28T17:34:25.746-04:00Cmike’s indictment seems a bit harsh to me. If you...Cmike’s indictment seems a bit harsh to me. If you don’t want to go to the library to read the <i>NYT</i> for a cyber-hobby like this commentariat, that seems reasonable to me.<br /><br />The neatly folded pile of excrement that is the <i>NYT</i> arrives encased in its protective blue plastic sleeve daily at my house. About three years ago, I managed to stop the daily shit delivery, but, alas, that lasted only a couple of months. Central Purchasing overruled my objections. So I’ll make you a deal: I’ll summarize for you whatever TDH cites but doesn’t fully quote.<br /><br />But I doubt you’ll take me up on that offer because you apparently don’t need to read the article to make judgments about it.<br /><br /><i>If that sentence in paragraph 32 says he hasn't done much, that statement must surely be read in the context of the article's headline about desegregation.</i><br /><br />No. That paragraph is a quote from a professor: “David Bloomfield, a professor of education at Brooklyn College, said Mr. Carranza’s ‘impact on the classroom at this point seems insignificant.’” And, fair or not, it’s a general indictment.<br /><br /><i>From our perspective, it seems like Carranza did plenty.</i><br /><br />You mean from your perspective of having not read the article? But the problem is that it’s impossible to tell what Carranza has done. Shapiro tells us nothing; she merely quotes Carranza telling us that he done things.<br /><br /><i>No one expects much during that learning period</i> [an executive’s first year]<i>. In Carranza's case, it seems like both Somerby and Shapiro expect a great deal.</i><br /><br />It’s hard to know what Shapiro expects, although she spends a lot of time documenting Carranza’s problems and setbacks. But it’s easy to know what TDH expects. He tells you up front: “No one could expect Carranza, or anyone else, to transform this state of affairs in his first year on the job,….” How could you have missed that?<br /><br /><i>Carranza made changes in many areas (bus routes, policing and discipline, English language learning)….</i><br /><br />And you know that how? Carranza <i>claimed</i> to have made changes in these areas, but Shapiro doesn’t bother to check those claims.<br /><br /><i>Shapiro seems to expect that it should take only a year to desegregate the schools. It sounds to me like Carranza's priorities are different and he is focused on more immediate needs….</i><br /><br />It sounds like to you? But you didn’t read the article. In fact, Shapiro’s quotes make it sound like desegregation is both Carranza’s top priority or a cosmetic feature in his eyes.<br /><br />[Somerby] <i>doesn't have a horse in this race,….</i><br /><br />Let me remind you that the “race” is about reporting on education. TDH doesn’t need to live in NYC or have kids himself to comment on the issue.<br /><br /><i>Or does he have a hard on for De Blasio?</i><br /><br />TDH contemns the <i>NYT</i> in general and its reporting on education in particular. He didn’t mention de Blasio.<br /><br />.———— <br />We hope you enjoyed this example of uncultured impudence and lower middle class ignorance™<br />deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71006649940963719552019-08-28T17:32:37.868-04:002019-08-28T17:32:37.868-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.deadrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02828198094140822987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5852522431950949352019-08-28T14:17:47.679-04:002019-08-28T14:17:47.679-04:0010:43 PM writes:
Those of us who do not want to p...10:43 PM writes:<br /><br /><i>Those of us who do not want to pay for a NY Times subscription cannot play this game with Somerby, where he disappears the context and fails to tell us what those first 31 paragraphs were about.</i><br /><br />You keep acting like you're entitled to have Somerby spoon feed you all of the contents of the New York Times articles he comments about. Read the articles your own self and stop making the phony excuse that it's your lack of an unnecessary Times subscription which is keeping you from accessing them. It's just your own laziness that can get in the way of your reading them.<br /><br />And then there's your transparently false claim that you, whom you refer to as "those of us," "cannot play this game with Somerby." Truth is, you can't stop yourself from playing, you're here in these threads constantly.<br /><br />If you ever have a useful point to make why don't you do that but, in the meantime, spare these threads <br />of any more of your "woe is me" clutter.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91134150421262948042019-08-28T14:14:55.130-04:002019-08-28T14:14:55.130-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44521825600735154392019-08-28T11:59:47.633-04:002019-08-28T11:59:47.633-04:00"the top 15% vs. the bottom 15%"
Yes. T..."the top 15% vs. the bottom 15%"<br /><br />Yes. This is simple common sense. <br /><br />Except that for the most part it probably isn't about 'abilities', but a whole bunch of factors, the main one being their social environment. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31880272340798838682019-08-28T11:49:11.583-04:002019-08-28T11:49:11.583-04:00It's wrong to measure the gap as between white...It's wrong to measure the gap as between white, Hispanic, black and Asian. The real gap is between students of unequal abilities. A gap that compared, say, the top 15% vs. the bottom 15% would be seen to be wider than the gap between Asians and blacks. David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12274519130165635852019-08-28T11:30:29.424-04:002019-08-28T11:30:29.424-04:00Monday was Women's Equality Day, commemorating...Monday was Women's Equality Day, commemorating when women attained the vote in the US, and no one in the media mentioned it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32105717135432470282019-08-28T11:24:49.285-04:002019-08-28T11:24:49.285-04:0010:37,
You should alternate your whiny, victimizat...10:37,<br />You should alternate your whiny, victimization posts with those calling the Left "snowflakes", to heighten the hypocrisy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27552129238794895722019-08-28T11:04:01.542-04:002019-08-28T11:04:01.542-04:00What was Katherine Boo objecting to in Dowd's ...What was Katherine Boo objecting to in Dowd's work when she referred to "creeping Dowdism"? Here is a good summary:<br /><br />https://spectator.org/40891_lingua-crapa/<br /><br />This is not the same problem as the NY Times articles about Uranium One and similar hit jobs on the Clintons based on right-wing smear campaigns (posing as books). <br /><br />Dowd's offense is that she and other journalists have put themselves into the story by adopting what Boo calls a cowardly stance of irony and an assault on sincerity that ultimately resulted in Hillary (who embodies earnestness in public service) being portrayed as cynically dishonest.<br /><br />One can ask what Somerby's stance is these days. Like Dowd and her imitators, he uses linguistic devices to avoid responsibility for expressing any opinions while he engages in overly cute posturing that patronizes whoever he targets, whether school administrators or journalists or our political process. In a time when we urgently need to call out both Republicans and our President, Somerby continues to hide behind language, pretending that mental illness is the same as treason, greed and incompetence. He is no better than Dowd and a lot worse than Shapiro and her brethren at the NY Times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14528512969215531972019-08-28T10:46:46.289-04:002019-08-28T10:46:46.289-04:00Mao bad, bad Mao, bad bad Mao.Mao bad, bad Mao, bad bad Mao.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69053699881453868152019-08-28T10:43:25.920-04:002019-08-28T10:43:25.920-04:00Somerby doesn't tell us that the NY Times arti...Somerby doesn't tell us that the NY Times article is about Carranza's failure to desegregate the schools during his first year. If that sentence in paragraph 32 says he hasn't done much, that statement must surely be read in the context of the article's headline about desegregation.<br /><br />Those of us who do not want to pay for a NY Times subscription cannot play this game with Somerby, where he disappears the context and fails to tell us what those first 31 paragraphs were about. From our perspective, it seems like Carranza did plenty.<br /><br />The first year for a new business executive is spent getting one's feet under the desk -- that means learning the ropes, who is who, figuring out what the job entails. No one expects much during that learning period. In Carranza's case, it seems like both Somerby and Shapiro expect a great deal. <br /><br />Not only do they expect too much (in my opinion) but they expect changes to show up in test scores. Carranza made changes in many areas (bus routes, policing and discipline, English language learning) that will not show up directly in test scores despite making life easier for many students. English language learners are excluded from NAEP participation. But these are ALSO important in the lives of students, as will a district reorganization. Changing the district is bound to temporarily disrupt school activities with the hope that there will be benefits down the line -- but how can that show up in test scores at the end of only a year? These are unreasonable expectations.<br /><br />Shapiro seems to expect that it should take only a year to desegregate the schools. It sounds to me like Carranza's priorities are different and he is focused on more immediate needs (GPS on buses for example) and it is his job to select priorities, not Shapiro's and certainly not Somerby's. He doesn't have a horse in this race, living in Baltimore and having no kids. One wonders why he is on this tirade -- are Baltimore's schools integrated? Are there no gaps in Baltimore? Or does he have a hard on for De Blasio?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38272852304407146082019-08-28T10:37:19.247-04:002019-08-28T10:37:19.247-04:00"...to retell the ridiculous, hopelessly bung..."...to retell the ridiculous, hopelessly bungled story of Uranium One..."<br /><br />You sound like you're only pissed-off at the zombie media when they pinch (however gently) your zombie VIPs, dear Bob. <br /><br />But when they run 'Orange Man Bad' non-stop for years, you don't mind it too much. And not only that, you even feel obliged to add your own smears.<br /><br />How mighty liberal of you, dear Bob...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com