tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post6349355301236990155..comments2024-03-28T11:27:08.696-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Gotham buses migrants north!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45586925255707537042023-02-10T10:41:53.139-05:002023-02-10T10:41:53.139-05:008:53 I said "schooled in sexuality". You...8:53 I said "schooled in sexuality". You can give a few examples of your kindergarten teacher indoctrinating you I am sure. They may be complicit on some level in accepting societal norms but this is not what we are talking about here as you well know.Unamusedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12797048949815076506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44419574994541936842023-02-10T09:45:20.605-05:002023-02-10T09:45:20.605-05:00"Back in the day, those Texas officials had w..."Back in the day, those Texas officials had what seemed like an obvious point. We trashed them and called them some of our favorite names."<br /><br />We trashed them because they were blaming Biden for an influx that originated elsewhere due to conditions in other countries over which Biden had no control.<br /><br />We trashed them because their solutions involved putting children into cages, separating them from parents without keeping proper records so that families could be reunified later.<br /><br />We trashed them because they allowed armed vigilantes to harrass and mistreat people at the border. And we trashed them for their unworkable policies that showed no regard for the human beings in desperate circumstances seeking asylum.<br /><br />Of course the migrants at the border are a serious problem. Serious people find reasonable solutions, instead of mistreating the ones who arrive so that the word will spread and deter more from coming (Trump's approach), which was not possible given the dire circumstances in the places the migrants had left.<br /><br />But answer this -- why is it that California was able to deal with its border problem competently and Texas could not? And how do stunts like shipping migrants to the homes of politicians solve anything, especially for the migrants? And why didn't Trump help Abbott and the other governors when he had the chance? <br /><br />Somerby's simplistic view of the immigrant situation is a bit late. He said nothing when children were being mistreated at the border, not even when 14 year old girls were being mistreated. Now, when it is to his political advantage, Somerby is suddenly concerned about immigrants, because now it is a stick to beat McAdams with, to chastise New York. Canada is underpopulated, and if the migrants want to go there, that seems like a win-win, not an act of hypocrisy. Whereas the Republican governors used their buses to harrass Democrats at the expense of migrants who were unprepared and underinformed when they were shipped off like so many steers in cattle cars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9140392576683376682023-02-10T09:13:45.867-05:002023-02-10T09:13:45.867-05:00Sperm cells are alive. Human sperm cells are human...Sperm cells are alive. Human sperm cells are human life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17604103470048648212023-02-10T08:54:36.077-05:002023-02-10T08:54:36.077-05:00"Anonymouse 10:44pm, the only people who deny..."Anonymouse 10:44pm, the only people who deny that the USSR was socialist, are stupid *American socialists."<br /><br />And historians, and economists, and Russians. In fact, anyone who isn't a moronic right winger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75793405855562103662023-02-10T08:53:11.402-05:002023-02-10T08:53:11.402-05:00Children are schooled in gender identity from the ...Children are schooled in gender identity from the moment they are put into pink vs blue onesies. They are given certain toys, their rooms are decorated to match their gender, they are even handled differently based on gender. Their teachers continue that indoctrination. I am fine with a law that prevents that, except that isn't what this law intends. But the idea that teachers do not already teach gender is ridiculous. The right just wants gender taught the way they dictate, not based on the needs of children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33402915436062407042023-02-10T08:46:26.211-05:002023-02-10T08:46:26.211-05:00Sperm cells are not conscious. Children are.Sperm cells are not conscious. Children are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75217043764993942932023-02-10T08:45:28.322-05:002023-02-10T08:45:28.322-05:00I don't think you know what the word "quo...I don't think you know what the word "quote" means.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-801810198190785972023-02-10T07:49:37.399-05:002023-02-10T07:49:37.399-05:00An egg cell doesn’t know its gender, but a sperm c...An egg cell doesn’t know its gender, but a sperm cell does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-92232673263089043082023-02-10T07:42:27.380-05:002023-02-10T07:42:27.380-05:00If socialism means that workers control production...If socialism means that workers control production, the USSR was not socialist. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17369678479238712492023-02-10T02:19:17.284-05:002023-02-10T02:19:17.284-05:00You're correct, I should not have written &quo...You're correct, I should not have written "pairs of parents". Well played.Unamusedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12797048949815076506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24359686556411179372023-02-10T02:05:27.635-05:002023-02-10T02:05:27.635-05:00It is no small leap of faith for you to assume tha...It is no small leap of faith for you to assume that kindergartners are being schooled in sexuality from a comment made at 10:40. Right wing outlets commonly make up shit that many buy because they are predisposed via their innate prejudices to fall for that crap. That you would like to turn that observation into some neat trick on my part is cute. My acquaintance wasn't told that some doctor said trans people were born that way, nor that there was a space to fill/market in providing surgery to them. You can try to discredit those statements to your heart's content if that makes you happy. They have no bearing on my point stated above.Unamusedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12797048949815076506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14241735866750022452023-02-10T01:10:34.415-05:002023-02-10T01:10:34.415-05:00Anonymouse 10:35pm, I’m not. I’m quoting an mh pos...Anonymouse 10:35pm, I’m not. I’m quoting an mh post back to him. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30766929880852412012023-02-10T01:06:31.298-05:002023-02-10T01:06:31.298-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15120418147413914892023-02-10T01:04:23.773-05:002023-02-10T01:04:23.773-05:00How many wives does David Brooks have? How many wives does David Brooks have? Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-76344601712656755782023-02-10T01:02:12.693-05:002023-02-10T01:02:12.693-05:00Unamused, look at Anonymouse 10:40pm idea as to th...Unamused, look at Anonymouse 10:40pm idea as to the role of teachers in facilitating their pre-kindergarten age students in their arrival at gender identity, <br /><br />As usual, you folks can walk right past this sort of rhetoric as you declare it to be conservative fever dreams. <br /><br />Similarly, Boston Children Hospital completely scrubbed their site after they fell under scrutiny over a video saying that children are aware of gender from the womb and from a video of a physician hailing the monetary potential of gender affirming care. <br /><br />I’m not surprised that you think it’s a neat trick to put every critic into the same box with people who make outrageous claims, but no halfway intelligent person buys it. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44535179051091369832023-02-10T00:57:23.297-05:002023-02-10T00:57:23.297-05:00Her son, well~schooled as he was by this conservat...Her son, well~schooled as he was by this conservative pair of parents, left this country to join the Israeli army. Well played. Could be training his sight on a Palestinian or two at this moment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53610128201895706122023-02-10T00:41:26.553-05:002023-02-10T00:41:26.553-05:00Anonymouse 10:40pm, it is not the job of teachers ...Anonymouse 10:40pm, it is not the job of teachers to assist pre-kindergarteners in discovering their gender identity, <br /><br />You’re a complete kook.Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29922793373953514172023-02-10T00:34:40.635-05:002023-02-10T00:34:40.635-05:00Anonymouse 10:44pm, the only people who deny that ...Anonymouse 10:44pm, the only people who deny that the USSR was socialist, are stupid *American socialists. Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37298251375924838932023-02-09T23:45:50.964-05:002023-02-09T23:45:50.964-05:00Cecelia, regarding 9:54: please put away the box w...Cecelia, regarding 9:54: please put away the box wine for the night. Has anyone put forward an example of a first grader being schooled in gender identity or is this just another instance of a right wing fetish? A few months back an acquaintance informed me that at the world renowned Boston Children's Hospital surgeons were performing sex change operations on fetuses in utero. It takes an astonishing amount of willful ignorance to buy what right wing outlets sell to their high market share audiences, some of whom ultimately threatened doctors at that facility, with pizza- gate like conviction. So any talk of gender identity scholastics for 5-7 year olds is bullshit plain and simple until.proven otherwise. That is not to say that inappropriate sexualizing and flat out abuse of children does not occur, only that it is well documented in the Roman Catholic Church, an organization with a long history of predation (and hiding of such) that no thoughtful adult, conservative or otherwise, would ever consider be a member of. But no problems with Catholic schools, oh no. Unamusedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12797048949815076506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81990878824136404212023-02-09T23:43:11.350-05:002023-02-09T23:43:11.350-05:00Is the mayor doing "the same thing?" doe...Is the mayor doing "the same thing?" doesn't sound like it. One key phrase would be "want to." Is the mayor of New York sticking them on buses not understanding what is going on? Bob once again plays his readers as rubes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29293905032270802242023-02-09T23:01:05.849-05:002023-02-09T23:01:05.849-05:00https://theconversation.com/when-do-children-devel...https://theconversation.com/when-do-children-develop-their-gender-identity-56480<br /><br />Along similar lines, there are Republicans and there are Democrats, but there is an even larger group of people who do not identify with either political party, calling themselves Independents. Sometimes they vote Republican, but sometimes they vote Democrat. If the two main political parties were to ignore such people instead of trying to attract them, they would lost elections.<br /><br />Given that even the least flexible conservative understands that Independent votes are important, recognizing that some people do not have a strong political identity, why can they not also understand that some people have a more fluid gender identity, attracted to elements of both genders (or maybe none, preferring androgyny)? And why cannot such people understand that a person's identity as one sex or the other might change across a lifespan? <br /><br />I think the key word is "flexible" and I suspect that conservatives are conservative because flexibility is hard for them, especially when it leads to change. Inflexibility generally entails resistance to change. And I have no problem with conservatives deciding to resist change in their own lives. I object when they try to impose their own preferences on other people, especially when it hurts other people and is done for no good reason. Adopting a fluid or different gender identity is surely a victimless crime. Our society has made progress getting rid of other victimless crimes, but this "last stand" being made by Republicans as a political stunt, attacking a group of people who hurt no one, is evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82133080029475391332023-02-09T22:44:35.897-05:002023-02-09T22:44:35.897-05:00You aren’t a traitor, you’re a moron. The Russian ...You aren’t a traitor, you’re a moron. The Russian revolution was Marxist communist, not socialist, you ignorant piece of shit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72769472292440510172023-02-09T22:40:00.355-05:002023-02-09T22:40:00.355-05:00“gender theory” sounds like right wing vocab. Kids...“gender theory” sounds like right wing vocab. Kids learn gender between ages 3-5. Do you consider developmental psychology questionable too? <br /><br />“Around age two: Children become conscious of the physical difference between boys and girls. Before their third birthday: Most children can easily label themselves as either a boy or girl. By age four: Most children have a stable sense of their gender identity.”<br /><br />DeSantis’s legislation prohibits teachers from helping kids during the period when it is most relevant, early childhood. By the terms of the law, schools should do away with all that pink and blue color coding that teaches kids about gender.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91094161789806379562023-02-09T22:25:32.735-05:002023-02-09T22:25:32.735-05:00Because “liberals aren’t suddenly supporting his p...Because “liberals aren’t suddenly supporting his policies”. Why are you so desperate to have someone agree with Somerby? That’s just weird.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4641387611721523322023-02-09T22:19:50.129-05:002023-02-09T22:19:50.129-05:00mh, so you agree with Somerby as the mayor’s hypoc...mh, so you agree with Somerby as the mayor’s hypocrisy. <br /><br />Oh, why can’t you just say that Bob is right about this? Ceceliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15162272807640653299noreply@blogger.com