tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post637064388153785735..comments2024-03-28T03:44:19.312-04:00Comments on the daily howler: What did Michael Bloomberg say!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60138967057435614822013-09-11T21:38:23.543-04:002013-09-11T21:38:23.543-04:00"So far we don't take things away from ra..."So far we don't take things away from rational people based upon what they might do."<br /><br />The NSA would like a word about privacy.<br />The DEA would like a word about drugs.<br /><br />We take things away from rational people based upon what they might do only 365 days per year*.<br />Other than being 100% wrong (I know, shocking), your point is practically correct.<br /><br />Berto<br /><br />*366 days in leap years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4910895579425101952013-09-11T03:12:01.777-04:002013-09-11T03:12:01.777-04:00Gun-toting hot-heads with violence issues shouldn&...Gun-toting hot-heads with violence issues shouldn't own guns. It's right there in in the 2nd Amendment under the term "well-regulated".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31090281059208858472013-09-10T17:24:29.044-04:002013-09-10T17:24:29.044-04:00Well, Berto, there's never been a time in this...Well, Berto, there's never been a time in this country when a sane person with no record of conviction could not own a gun, <br /><br />So far we don't take things away from rational people based upon what they might do.<br /><br />A judge can be petitioned for such, but it will still be a matter of due process.<br /><br />The NRA didn't get Zimmerman off. The prosecution didn't prove their case.<br /><br /><br />CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82238381602523870652013-09-10T14:51:12.056-04:002013-09-10T14:51:12.056-04:00"Very few people argued that Zimmerman was a ..."Very few people argued that Zimmerman was a saint or even untroubled."<br /><br />Zimmerman's violent past should have raised more red flags than were seen in Moscow during 1972's Mayday Parade. <br />It wasn't the number of fools who argued Zimmerman was a saint or even untroubled. It was the power they wielded. The NRA likes to talk about defending upstanding citizens' right to bear arms, but they'll be just as happy to defend the rights of trouble-makers to do so, because they are nothing more than the marketing arm of gun manufacturers.<br /><br />BertoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15672894794215149052013-09-10T14:11:43.837-04:002013-09-10T14:11:43.837-04:00Anon1:05pm, I suppose I should be flattered that y...Anon1:05pm, I suppose I should be flattered that you look at a board of commenters and see only me.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68549312951239326022013-09-10T13:05:02.781-04:002013-09-10T13:05:02.781-04:00Cecelia, have fun rehashing the Zimmerman case for...Cecelia, have fun rehashing the Zimmerman case for the millionth time. It's what Bob would want you to do.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27815387347585786262013-09-10T12:03:16.179-04:002013-09-10T12:03:16.179-04:00So as TDH surveys the media landscape, one of the ...So as TDH surveys the media landscape, one of the most glaring problems is that the richest media mogul in the world-the very one who gets to insert what were inaudible comments in an interview-that media tycoon can't get his message out? <br /><br />To quote tennis philosopher John McEnroe, "You cannot be serious."Trollmesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70070978857531179762013-09-10T11:06:48.064-04:002013-09-10T11:06:48.064-04:00Anon9:31am, how about the defense arguing that you...Anon9:31am, how about the defense arguing that you can't convict someone for 2nd degree murder or manslaughter "just because he's a hothead who starts confrontations"?<br /><br />How about a defense that argues just because the guy is troubled doesn't mean MSNBC has the right to frame him by editing video tape, or that it's not irresponsible for a tv host to swear he called Martin a "coon"?<br /><br />Or try the defense that says that just because Zimmerman angered Martin does not mean he cannot defend himself when attacked.<br /><br />And finally...just because you blog or report on media malfeasance in this case or interview Zimmerman to air his say, does not mean you want Zimmerman canonized.<br /><br />Those are the things that were argued here.<br /><br />Frankly, I don't know why I bother because despite the logic and commonsense of each of these statements, you'll remain a mob member.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10456613633789004502013-09-10T10:52:52.792-04:002013-09-10T10:52:52.792-04:00What is fair about TDH Dittohead's comment, S....What is fair about TDH Dittohead's comment, S.R.?CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42211788076994547342013-09-10T09:48:00.770-04:002013-09-10T09:48:00.770-04:00Divorces do tend to bring out the worst in people....Divorces do tend to bring out the worst in people. Can it be that the strain of being tried and being the focus of media attention helped weaken Zimmerman's marriage? She just told him the day before this encounter, and he is being accused of simply placing a hand near a gun that he apparently habitually wears. A pretty mild threat, in my opinion compared to what estranged husbands routinely do to get themselves arrested or restrained. He went to his in-laws house because that is where his wife was staying. Are you really so unfamiliar with the way people behave when divorcing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79316922827479302232013-09-10T09:31:44.555-04:002013-09-10T09:31:44.555-04:00Yes, emperor with clothes, it appears that the Zim...Yes, emperor with clothes, it appears that the Zimmerman Defense Team is already beginning to flock back to this blog, and will come in greater numbers after Somerby inevitably posts about the awful, terrible things Rev. Al has said about the neighborhood watch hero. <br /><br />And of course, the latest defense is already shaping up: "Just because he drove to his in-laws' house in another city and the cops had to be called doesn't mean Zimmerman is a hothead who starts confrontations."<br /><br />So we'll get another post with 70 or so comments rehashing the Trayvon Martin case again with absolutely nothing new said.<br /><br />Gotta keep those traffic counts up.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6374061323651239302013-09-10T02:45:48.591-04:002013-09-10T02:45:48.591-04:00After all of the turgid, repetitious and dishonest...After all of the turgid, repetitious and dishonest defenses of George Zimmerman that Somerby has posted here (and that Somerby's audience largely applauded), I think "To all you Daily Howler Dittoheads" is making a fair comment.<br /><br />And yes, there is a transcript (as well as actual audio) available online of Shellie Zimmerman's 911 call.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8811818413240354712013-09-10T01:15:34.117-04:002013-09-10T01:15:34.117-04:00Is there a transcipt anywhere of the 911 call. Wh...Is there a transcipt anywhere of the 911 call. What does the estranged Missus say when the ineveitable question comes from the dispatcher: "Is he white, black , or Hispanic?"<br /><br />EBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19398198188491058182013-09-10T01:12:53.845-04:002013-09-10T01:12:53.845-04:00Rats. Meant that as a reply to deadrat.
EB (GOTT...Rats. Meant that as a reply to deadrat.<br /><br />EB (GOTT)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9658020891526447292013-09-10T01:10:52.332-04:002013-09-10T01:10:52.332-04:00Was there overhead helicopter coverage while the i...Was there overhead helicopter coverage while the incident was in progress? Today we will call that a mystery. Tomorrow we will find out what nasty misleading things Rev. Al said about the whole affair. Perhaps there will be<br />an Attorney Crump appearance. <br /><br />Meanwhile Trayvon Martin remains wrongfully, tragically, and totally dead.<br /><br />Emp. B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36675180981029320082013-09-10T00:08:22.140-04:002013-09-10T00:08:22.140-04:00Apparently, we're supposed to think
that toda...Apparently, we're supposed to think<br /><br />that today's incident should have been introduced as evidence in Zimmerman's trial,<br /><br />that you know Zimmerman's "true" and "patently obvious" nature, <br /><br />that the "true nature" of a defendant is sufficient evidence to convict him,<br /><br />that you somehow know that Zimmerman acted "in a strikingly similar fashion" the night he killed Martin,<br /><br />that capitalizing the word "OBJECTIVELY" makes you objective. And clairvoyant, <br /><br />that we're to ignore the police chief when he says, "“Keep in mind, this is only her side of the story."<br />deadratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91668853715030320902013-09-09T23:40:08.232-04:002013-09-09T23:40:08.232-04:00Folks, why don't we spare ourselves the 50+ co...Folks, why don't we spare ourselves the 50+ comment posts on TDH and declare Zimmerman guilty as charged and move on?gravymeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075831177588700301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65740279930668047862013-09-09T21:57:03.551-04:002013-09-09T21:57:03.551-04:00And Cam Newton and Auburn weren't under invest...And Cam Newton and Auburn weren't under investigation as I recall. Cam's father and Mississippi State were investigated for a totally different set of violations.<br /><br />There was a basketball player at the University of Texas who was suspended for almost a whole season because he didn't disclose who paid to send him to a camp.<br />He was African-Canadian, however.<br /><br />But don't you love TDH holding newpapers semi accountable for comments of their readers? Howler regulars still love to debate the White Hispanic love object of Second Amendment activists. Who will do a post about that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82816369504835523102013-09-09T20:37:13.844-04:002013-09-09T20:37:13.844-04:00I perceive that you don't know to read.I perceive that you don't know to read.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-22681116147223904192013-09-09T20:30:46.495-04:002013-09-09T20:30:46.495-04:00You can perceive Zimmerman is behaving in a threat...You can perceive Zimmerman is behaving in a threatening way when menacing his wife, because race is removed from the equation.<br /><br />But when he acted in a strikingly similar fashion with Trayvon Martin, you were blinded, because of the latter's race, to just how threatening Zimmerman's behavior was OBJECTIVELY. To all you Daily Howler Dittoheads...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18748550278119839182013-09-09T19:53:00.131-04:002013-09-09T19:53:00.131-04:00Oh, bullshit. Very few people argued that Zimmerm...Oh, bullshit. Very few people argued that Zimmerman was a saint or even untroubled.<br /><br />Learn the difference between arguing that the prosecution had a terrible case and the media was trying to railroad Zimmerman, from saying something about his character.CeceliaMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017255006204800193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82402731731566673212013-09-09T19:47:38.501-04:002013-09-09T19:47:38.501-04:00I just thought the Bloomberg comment was small and...I just thought the Bloomberg comment was small and peevish. I watched the ad in question before this 9,000th interview with Mr. Bloomberg and I thought it was a good ad. <br />I know we're all supposed to say there was an OBVIOUS race-identity theme there but I actually think it was about the fact that he has a family and they live in a neighborhood. I thought it was MUCH more "I am a regular person unlike that plutocrat Mayor" than "my son is black". <br />Also, he has to use his actual son if he wants to do a "my family" ad. That's really the bottom line. It would be a shame if only the bi-racial children of white (or black!) politicians had to suffer this extended analysis. It's a family ad, his son is his family. Why do we need more than that? <br />I'm just not clear on why people feel they have to express every random thought that flits through their brain. Bloomberg may be very rich and very smart, but he could still spare us his race/religion campaigning insights, because they're dumb. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5102371043104862692013-09-09T18:45:15.061-04:002013-09-09T18:45:15.061-04:00To all you Daily Howler Dittoheads who couldn'...To all you Daily Howler Dittoheads who couldn't grasp the true (and patently obvious) nature of George Zimmerman after Trayvon Martin:<br /><br />Maybe this latest Zimmerman eruption will help clarify things for you:<br /><br />(CNN) -- No charges will be filed against George Zimmerman after an alleged altercation with his estranged wife and her father, Lake Mary, Florida, Police Chief Steve Bracknell said Monday.<br />"Shellie Zimmerman has declined prosecution (after consulting with her attorney)," Bracknell said.<br />George Zimmerman had been temporarily detained by police after Shellie Zimmerman told 911 Monday that he had threatened her and her father with a weapon.<br />On the 911 call, Shellie Zimmerman, who filed for divorce last week, is breathing heavily when she tells a dispatcher that Zimmerman is still at the house.<br />"He's in his car and he continually has his hand on his gun, and he's saying, 'Step closer.' He's just threatening all of us with his firearm," she says.<br />Shellie Zimmerman also tells 911 that George Zimmerman punched her father in the nose, then smashed her iPad before getting in his truck.<br />"I don't know what he's capable of. I'm really, really scared," she says.<br />To all you Daily Howler Dittoheads...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40207393731961543642013-09-09T18:17:09.366-04:002013-09-09T18:17:09.366-04:00Cam Newton went to Westlake High School in Atlanta...Cam Newton went to Westlake High School in Atlanta, GA, a school with a class that was 97% black.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55751608311730615232013-09-09T17:40:46.882-04:002013-09-09T17:40:46.882-04:00News: George Zimmerman threatens wife's family...News: George Zimmerman threatens wife's family with a gun...Is detained in Lake Worth,FL.<br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/george-zimmerman-taken-into-custody_n_3895388.html<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com