tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post6375666331636149683..comments2024-03-28T11:19:42.368-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Natives get restless RE Hillary Clinton!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12564595338578246072014-05-03T00:05:04.760-04:002014-05-03T00:05:04.760-04:00Joseph Cannon is writing a book documenting that f...Joseph Cannon is writing a book documenting that fraud -- from the left.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48243545095933405902014-05-02T23:37:03.063-04:002014-05-02T23:37:03.063-04:00When you're beholden to the corporate greedhea...When you're beholden to the corporate greedheads sometimes life just isn't fair. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67134646490563656002014-05-02T23:33:27.372-04:002014-05-02T23:33:27.372-04:00Clinton voted for the Iraqi invasion. She didn'...Clinton voted for the Iraqi invasion. She didn't put up much fuss over it either. They both voted for continued funding with the military waist deep. I'm no apologist for Obama but that narrative just isn't a good one to move forward with. <br /><br />As far as the theme of the post itself, I think the relationship between politicians and "big money", including the Clintons is VERY important. Nobody can tell me that Hillary's $250,000 pep talk isn't an investment, and probably a tax write off at that. Who's fooling who.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30905428672411185772014-05-02T23:07:42.781-04:002014-05-02T23:07:42.781-04:00The last sentence is right out of Fox's "...The last sentence is right out of Fox's "some people say". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59529364539259065512014-05-02T12:11:03.807-04:002014-05-02T12:11:03.807-04:00Clinton and Obama voted identically on Iraq. Obama...Clinton and Obama voted identically on Iraq. Obama was not in the Senate for the authorizing vote and his only claim to a different policy rests on a speech that no one recorded, unverifiable and in the past. Obama however, skipped more votes than Clinton, just as he skipped votes in his other offices. Liberals who wished to support Obama used Clinton's supposed vote as an excuse. Clinton's stated policies on both the wars and on closing Guantanamo were stronger than Obama's. Given his subsequent actions, I believe she would have followed through on her promises and ended the wars sooner and closed Guantanamo, unlike Obama. Because Clinton has tended to keep her promises.<br /><br />Some people refer to Obama's "incredible organization in the caucus states" as election fraud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14220217364479732014-05-02T11:32:02.901-04:002014-05-02T11:32:02.901-04:00Geoff, you will never get into the Bob Tribe by sa...Geoff, you will never get into the Bob Tribe by saying such nonsense as Clinton's Iraq vote played a role in the 2008 primary, and also Obama's incredible organization in the caucus states was also a big factor.<br /><br />Such heresy! Don't you know that the only reason Hillary isn't President Clinton is because of the mean things Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann said about her on MSNBC?<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82648392063999986172014-05-02T11:22:21.361-04:002014-05-02T11:22:21.361-04:00Hillary will win all of Obama's votes, plus ad...Hillary will win all of Obama's votes, plus add some white working-class votes to the mix. Hence, yes, win big. Also, the landscape is totally different from the 1990s and Campaign 2000 --- demographics, the increasing insanity of the GOP, etc. Plus, the Clintons are just in a totally different league politically than Gore, or for that matter, Kerry were.<br /><br />And yes: the more the media piles on, the better the Clintons do. Just remember: Bill's approval ratings peaked *during impeachment* --- 70%. And for all of the bashing and trashing, his average approval rating throughout his presidency was higher than Saint Ronnie's.<br /><br />Sure, Hillary lost to Obama in 08, but that probably had more to do with her Iraq vote (which cost her Iowa, which propelled Obama) than anything else. That, and O's people completely outmaneuvered Hil's in the caucus states.Geoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59477981262093109832014-05-02T10:15:48.589-04:002014-05-02T10:15:48.589-04:00I think the press will bear down harder on Hillary...I think the press will bear down harder on Hillary Clinton then perhaps even the worst of the bad old days. As with both Bubba and Obama, this will only help. The only time the scandal mongering hurt Clinton was when he was dumb enough to actually give Monica a squeeze. <br /> it won't be for the faint of heart, but for many obvious reasons, Hillary will win handily. Better numbers than Obama. You heard it here first. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84437043678516123442014-05-01T17:17:06.345-04:002014-05-01T17:17:06.345-04:00Another example of the equal pay for equal work is...Another example of the equal pay for equal work issue. Jeb gets $1 million for the same speech Hillary gets $250K. She was First Lady, Secretary of State and Senator while Jeb was Gov of Florida. How is that fair pay? How is that money grubbing? She is letting herself be underpaid. And Jeb is supposedly running for Pres in 2016 too, so the exposure is the same for both.<br /><br />I think the positive comments about Hillary now are to demonstrate that when they nominate someone else it will not be because of sexism but for other reasons. Further, I think the Obama people have a sense that they owe her something for being a team player in 2008 (and after), whereas the press does not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com