tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post659999715965594825..comments2024-03-29T00:25:24.008-04:00Comments on the daily howler: We return to that New York Times news report!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78303079259753505562013-11-04T15:02:51.133-05:002013-11-04T15:02:51.133-05:00"Our nation’s intellectual culture is plainly..."Our nation’s intellectual culture is plainly dead or dying. American students have been doing better. American adult elites are caught in a walking death."<br /><br />Thank God those American adults living in a dying or plainly dead intellectual culture have been doing such a good job improving our youth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-65760044115088127082013-11-04T13:50:03.719-05:002013-11-04T13:50:03.719-05:00Anonymous November 2, 2013 at 6:23 PM:
Leave now....Anonymous November 2, 2013 at 6:23 PM:<br /><br />Leave now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2626110037817349232013-11-03T23:54:17.028-05:002013-11-03T23:54:17.028-05:00I'd say she may be incompetent at telling the ...I'd say she may be incompetent at telling the truth, but she's a competent liar. It wouldn't be the first time the "paper of record" has published lies. -EAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4955793265593702482013-11-03T16:39:43.288-05:002013-11-03T16:39:43.288-05:00Gee, I dunno. Maybe he's got a life outside th...Gee, I dunno. Maybe he's got a life outside this blog?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-20696480301408760042013-11-03T01:59:21.949-05:002013-11-03T01:59:21.949-05:00"In fact, there has been no deterioration at ..."In fact, there has been no deterioration at all. A competent journalist would simply say that."<br /><br />No, even that's just one more way to be unaccountable. A competent journalist would report, <i>as news</i>, that conventional wisdom has been wrong for years, then comment on that fact extensively. The fact that it's not new doesn't mean it's not news if there are decades of cowardly stupidity surrounding a topic.<br /><br />It's like how one day Bush was a great leader, and the next, "everyone knows" he's a giant screwup so let's not belabor that. At no point did the media sit down, day after day for months, and report as news the fact that their judgment was awful.<br />steevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12620735494191381865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38656962608389156432013-11-02T19:01:46.227-04:002013-11-02T19:01:46.227-04:00I seem to have some ancestral memories of how afte...I seem to have some ancestral memories of how after the launching of Sputnik the US educational system was compared to that of the USSR. How have things changed since then?skeptonomisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867814619333835249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-67234702121511625732013-11-02T18:59:12.475-04:002013-11-02T18:59:12.475-04:00I still find it very, very odd that even Somerby d...I still find it very, very odd that even Somerby does not compare the US with Russia, which seems to do better on the TIMSS. Have all their school systems been converted to privatized voucherfests? What is going on there? How do they manage to keep up despite the breakup of the socialist paradise as well as that of the former Russian Empire? Russia is still a huge country, which would seem to be a better country to compare with than tiny Singapore or even Finland.skeptonomisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14867814619333835249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53878927844575653762013-11-02T18:24:38.134-04:002013-11-02T18:24:38.134-04:00I made the exact same typo as Anonymous. What I w...I made the exact same typo as Anonymous. What I was meant to type was:<br /><br />I'd be willing to bet that when a reporter is assigned to write an education article, the editor gives the reporter a list of people to call for expertise and comments. The reporter, who knows little or nothing about test scores, gets input from those people and turns it into a paragraph or two.James E. Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03411674142419407865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36235865619945057492013-11-02T18:23:55.044-04:002013-11-02T18:23:55.044-04:00Where's that shit KZ? I don't know what to...Where's that shit KZ? I don't know what to think 'til I read his profound, clever droppings. I mean, I know Somerby's wrong, of course. And bad. But I just can't *think* it without KZ's helpful heap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91602547090174232192013-11-02T18:22:19.811-04:002013-11-02T18:22:19.811-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.James E. Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03411674142419407865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77963455447493737792013-11-02T17:46:06.620-04:002013-11-02T17:46:06.620-04:00Sorry, meant to type "I'd be willing to b...Sorry, meant to type "I'd be willing to bet she's just lazy."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55303533889859034422013-11-02T17:45:36.390-04:002013-11-02T17:45:36.390-04:00"A cynic would say this: Rich is trying to ke..."A cynic would say this: Rich is trying to keep her report in line with a strongly-preferred elite script."<br /><br />I'd be willing to be she's just lazy.<br /><br />It makes me wonder: has anyone on the education beat at the NYT ever known how to analyze test scores? When someone is moved to the education beat, as we know Rich was not long ago, are they given any training or expected to just wing it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com