tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post7264519799697241338..comments2024-03-29T10:53:25.252-04:00Comments on the daily howler: UNDER THE BIG TOP: How many boxes can dance on the head of a pin?<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19531792784671842462023-11-08T09:15:39.991-05:002023-11-08T09:15:39.991-05:00supreme clothing
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"The investig...Mueller Page 14 re the FB ads:<br /><br />"The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA’s interference operation." <br /><br />Manafort and polling data Page 131<br /><br />"The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort’s sharing polling data and<br />Russia’s interference in the election, which had already been reported by U.S. media outlets at the<br />time of the August 2 meeting. The investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise<br />coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."<br /><br />Overall - Page 1<br />"the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities. "<br /><br />Obstruction, Page 181<br /><br />"The Office therefore did not charge any individual associated with the Trump Campaign with conspiracy to commit a federal offense arising from Russia contacts, either under a specific statute or under Section 371’s offenses clause. The Office also did not charge any campaign official or associate with a conspiracy under<br />Section 371’s defraud clause. That clause criminalizes participating in an agreement to obstruct a lawful function of the U.S. government or its agencies through deceitful or dishonest means."<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87689946558590430972022-08-17T20:56:55.898-04:002022-08-17T20:56:55.898-04:00We obviously read different things. As Somerby say...We obviously read different things. As Somerby says, there are some people who don’t want to hear about Russia’s involvement, despite the troll farm described in the Mueller report.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29388679325251941482022-08-17T20:39:43.863-04:002022-08-17T20:39:43.863-04:00Unfortunately none of the investigative bodies tha...Unfortunately none of the investigative bodies that looked at the matter agree with you. Nor does anyone who could make a difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91241994304890663322022-08-17T20:37:13.162-04:002022-08-17T20:37:13.162-04:00Yes, and was targeted to specific districts with i...Yes, and was targeted to specific districts with information provided by the Trump campaign about which might be swung. And they did swing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12323574121504222422022-08-17T20:24:36.890-04:002022-08-17T20:24:36.890-04:00And that all originated from Russia with coordinat...And that all originated from Russia with coordination from the Trump campaign? I think you may have lost the plot there little man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24083420528880147842022-08-17T19:47:45.959-04:002022-08-17T19:47:45.959-04:00Your mother in law shares a post that says Hillary...Your mother in law shares a post that says Hillary had 3 abortions in college, a friend knows because she was in her sorority. Then you get a blog post that says Hillary gave special treatment to Clinton Foundation donors when she was SOS, then a standup clip appears with some guy saying her voice makes his balls crawl up into his body ha ha ha. And this comes in a constant stream every day. Social media is not advertising.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11922457917064201012022-08-17T19:39:20.519-04:002022-08-17T19:39:20.519-04:00Social media, not ads.Social media, not ads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15998088291682038072022-08-17T18:56:29.421-04:002022-08-17T18:56:29.421-04:00Strong claims about the potency of relatively smal...Strong claims about the potency of relatively small scale and poorly targeted internet appeals and propaganda also fit badly with the known facts of how political advertising reaches voters. <br /><br />Several studies have attempted to compare the effectiveness of television ads versus internet advertising; in all of these, the amount of repetition necessary on average to change minds seems very high. The fact that as many as ten million Americans might have seen one or another ad sounds impressive but it is anything but conclusive. Even without making strong assumptions about rates of repetition, on the evidence thus far it seems likely that the number of minds changed or immobilized by any Russian trolls could not have been large by comparison with all the other sources bombarding voters. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50618360789482874642022-08-17T18:46:18.471-04:002022-08-17T18:46:18.471-04:00How's Donald J Chickenshit polling on the &quo...How's Donald J Chickenshit polling on the "honest and trustworthy" metric right now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10524881609073249202022-08-17T18:44:16.421-04:002022-08-17T18:44:16.421-04:00Before those ads, people just loved her! ;)Before those ads, people just loved her! ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46480931271326652602022-08-17T18:41:24.153-04:002022-08-17T18:41:24.153-04:00Sure!!! Clinton was thought of as dishonest becaus...Sure!!! Clinton was thought of as dishonest because of the $300 worth of Facebook ads in Pennsylvania run before the 4 billion dollar election where television was still the main source of campaign news for Americans. No doubt!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-50875386275823901462022-08-17T18:34:35.798-04:002022-08-17T18:34:35.798-04:00Clinton was viewed as dishonest and untrustworthy ...Clinton was viewed as dishonest and untrustworthy because of the social media campaign against her. And read the Mueller report before you dismiss Russian influence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-48109661440025621112022-08-17T18:26:21.555-04:002022-08-17T18:26:21.555-04:00(I don't mean the commenters here. You seem to...(I don't mean the commenters here. You seem to be doing the best you can with what you've been given.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30591628680276018342022-08-17T18:20:43.663-04:002022-08-17T18:20:43.663-04:00Any criticisms of Clinton's 2016 campaigm is m...Any criticisms of Clinton's 2016 campaigm is met with these easily disproved scapegoats about Russia. It seems like it would be much more healthy for Democrats to face the criticisms directly. Offering scapegoats that are easily disproved doesn't require or ask that Democrats take a good look at themselves and improve upon their performance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49742725315577998032022-08-17T18:17:26.048-04:002022-08-17T18:17:26.048-04:00538 makes no claims at all about blacks and progre...538 makes no claims at all about blacks and progressive staying home because of Russian Facebook ads. Nate silver did talk about Clinton's unpopularity.<br /><br />"Clinton was really, really unpopular herself — almost as unpopular as Trump — with a favorability rating of just 43 percent among Election Day voters. Also, the substantial number of voters who disliked both Clinton and Trump went to Trump by a 17-point margin. Voters really weren’t willing to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt. That’s largely because Clinton was viewed as dishonest and untrustworthy,"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-24042701623224128162022-08-17T18:12:37.658-04:002022-08-17T18:12:37.658-04:00Blacks and progresses stayed home across the board...Blacks and progresses stayed home across the board in every district and vox and the Mueller report made no such connection to Russia's adsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63032460209082182642022-08-17T18:10:44.658-04:002022-08-17T18:10:44.658-04:00538 is Nate Silver’s blog. You might also read Hil...538 is Nate Silver’s blog. You might also read Hillary Clinton’s book “What Happened” where she examines various theories about her loss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29653920515489083762022-08-17T18:03:36.736-04:002022-08-17T18:03:36.736-04:00Interesting to see that you don't provide any ...Interesting to see that you don't provide any sources.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-70025591093889758942022-08-17T17:29:30.893-04:002022-08-17T17:29:30.893-04:00Read the analysis by 538. Actual voting versus reg...Read the analysis by 538. Actual voting versus registrations and prior voting in key districts shows that blacks and progressives stayed home in the districts targeted by Russian social media activity, corroborated by Mueller report.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37560661024728193422022-08-17T15:54:24.957-04:002022-08-17T15:54:24.957-04:00The Russian social media effort doesn't look i...The Russian social media effort doesn't look influential when one considers the tiny amount of Russian Facebook spending directed at key battleground states — $1,979 in Wisconsin, $823 in Michigan and $300 in Pennsylvania - according the Senate Intelligence Hearings.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com