tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post7416844499672398747..comments2024-03-29T09:38:48.722-04:00Comments on the daily howler: PLAYING WITH DOLLS: In this case, with an O’Reilly doll!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75613053296973932772014-08-15T11:41:15.630-04:002014-08-15T11:41:15.630-04:00How many anon critics of TDH are there? Are there ...How many anon critics of TDH are there? Are there 2? 3? 5? 10? AC /MAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4061500966574455822014-08-15T11:21:51.365-04:002014-08-15T11:21:51.365-04:00Anon 9:42, even if your interpretation of the Tray...Anon 9:42, even if your interpretation of the Trayvon Martin tragedy were correct, your post shows how you have been misled by the media, and perhaps by your own desire to be misled. You talk about the fear of running into someone who is gun-toting and trigger-happy and point to one killing 2 1/2 years ago. However, since Trayvon Martin was killed, thousands of black Americans have been murdered by other black Americans. The black on black murder rate is particularly high in some cities, such as Chicaqo and Detroit. Yes, many blacks today do have to worry about running into a gun-toting, trigger-happy potential killer, and that potential killer is generally black.<br /><br />AnonymousAugust 15, 2014 at 12:50 AM -- You make a good point, but I do not agree. Fear of the other is all too natural in humans (and in many other species.) We can see examples everywhere. Horrendous tribal warfare in Africa and the Middle East is all too often in the news. Americans historically feared immigrants of all sorts. Malays feared Chinese immigrants and discriminated against them. Etc.<br /><br />It's as easy as pie to whip up fear of the other. That ugly practice has produced fame and riches for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Sadly, some Democrats win black votes by claiming to protect black people from supposedly rampant racism. <br /><br />IMHO those who over-claim racism do no favor for black people. No doubt there are some racists, but the overwhelming majority of non-black Americans behave well to blacks, as is proved by Obama's election. <br /><br />Minorities have succeeded in this country by discipline and hard work and by fitting into the economic system, despite prejudice and ethnic barriers. When fear of racism deters blacks from taking advantage of opportunities, that is a tragic waste. <br />David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68508736769870717192014-08-15T10:27:28.137-04:002014-08-15T10:27:28.137-04:00There are three types of commenters here.
People...There are three types of commenters here. <br /><br />People who praise Bob for the courageous vision he has and the service to our democracy with which he volunteers it.<br /><br />People who praise Bob because they are canned spam.<br /><br />Trolls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53324190216051002862014-08-15T10:25:04.906-04:002014-08-15T10:25:04.906-04:00Fiddle faddle. After reading about Jonah's wh...Fiddle faddle. After reading about Jonah's whale I wanted to see Bob lay wood on O'Reilly's behalf.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5436033696774500852014-08-15T09:42:57.346-04:002014-08-15T09:42:57.346-04:00My take on Trayvon Martin is different from David&...My take on Trayvon Martin is different from David's.<br /><br />When you can't walk home for fear of running into a gun-toting, trigger-happy wannabe cop who doesn't recognize you, how safe are any of us?<br /><br />Ferguson raises it a notch. Not only are we to fear yahoos with guns, but we now must live in fear of our own police.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19915388507828663602014-08-15T09:20:30.030-04:002014-08-15T09:20:30.030-04:00You know, if Bob truly wanted to write an insightf...You know, if Bob truly wanted to write an insightful post about the media and the national discourse, he might discuss how Information Age technology has advanced to the point where both mainstream and social media were telling us what was going on in Ferguson Wednesday as it happened.<br /><br />Instead exploring the plethora of issues Ferguson raises not the least of which is the militarization of police, he reaches for his Joan Walsh doll and focuses on the burning question of whether or not Bill O'Reilly "harrumphed."<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56905534500689089252014-08-15T02:27:07.976-04:002014-08-15T02:27:07.976-04:00Is it trolling when people call out someone who cl...Is it trolling when people call out someone who claims to be something he is not? You know, like a liberal (or something) who cares about black children? Just wondering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72826165409564027432014-08-15T02:18:32.441-04:002014-08-15T02:18:32.441-04:00PS: I found the one correcting Bob on Renee Withe...PS: I found the one correcting Bob on Renee Witherspoon particularly vile, didn't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21714263768680126952014-08-15T02:15:39.581-04:002014-08-15T02:15:39.581-04:00Someone should have called them trolls earlier and...Someone should have called them trolls earlier and firmly told them to go away. It is like Bill O'Reilly said. You just can't stand by and say nothing while these savages take over the place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-16461835151426731662014-08-15T01:44:42.075-04:002014-08-15T01:44:42.075-04:00Has anyone noticed that the trolls in this set of ...Has anyone noticed that the trolls in this set of comments on Ferguson are nastier and less civil than the usual trolls?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19522376226850856652014-08-15T00:50:42.766-04:002014-08-15T00:50:42.766-04:00David, you seem to assume that black people in, sa...David, you seem to assume that black people in, say, NYC, have no idea what their own self-interest might be, so we (collectively) are to ignore their well-nigh universal sense that they are less often being protected and more often being harassed by the police who, e.g., stop and frisk them or stop them for "driving while black." <br /><br />More generally, I suggest fewer stabs at low-level social science research and more serious attention to American history. You might start with Jill Lepore's The Name of War: King Philip's War and the Origins of American Identity. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26004370745922503012014-08-15T00:29:21.380-04:002014-08-15T00:29:21.380-04:00High profile Liberal media deserved to get called ...High profile Liberal media deserved to get called out on that one. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23688970023212648672014-08-14T22:55:23.680-04:002014-08-14T22:55:23.680-04:00Bob should have gone directly to the Dick Nixon do...Bob should have gone directly to the Dick Nixon doll rather than stepping in this shit and on Bill O's imaginary little oompa loofah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1321887785748322762014-08-14T19:52:11.859-04:002014-08-14T19:52:11.859-04:00Poor 6:43. Give it a while. When Bob starts defe...Poor 6:43. Give it a while. When Bob starts defending the boys in blue from Ferguson against the heinous press, comments will come in which were not totally tongue in cheek like mine. I don't think Brown was a thug, but plenty of those defending Bob's point of view during the Zimmerman trial called Trayvon Martin one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-11074586863276180302014-08-14T19:48:15.608-04:002014-08-14T19:48:15.608-04:007:24 the reporter called his mother with his one p...7:24 the reporter called his mother with his one phone call because hers was the only number he could remember.<br /><br />With all due respect, addiction or no, few people remember<br />any numbers these days because they are all in your cell phone. I have had people sitting in front of me have to call<br />me on my phone in order for them to remember their own.<br /><br />When the cops take your cell phone you find out how blank your memory is and how much you depend on the little thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37401956455879709612014-08-14T19:41:27.316-04:002014-08-14T19:41:27.316-04:00It's typical for cops to show up in military g...It's typical for cops to show up in military gear these days. This article documents the militarization of American police which is a phenomenon that has been happening since even before 9-11 but grew rapidly after it. It's a big business and there's big grant money for local cops sporting those outfits. <br /><br />It's not a new thing for those cops to have been dressed like that. Maybe that is what the stupid drug addict meant by saying "scare phrase". Cops show up like that all the time. It's in no way unusual. <br /><br />http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/how_did_americas_police_become_a_military_force_on_the_streets<br /><br /><br />http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/how_did_americas_police_become_a_military_force_on_the_streets<br /><br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5027125240825691192014-08-14T19:24:38.974-04:002014-08-14T19:24:38.974-04:00I'm kind of stupid. I admit. I watched it th...I'm kind of stupid. I admit. I watched it though. Don't all those cops love that swat/military gear these days? Anyway - you're right. It's full military gear like one will see in Iraq. And I was stupid to question it.<br /><br />Still, the kid reporter calling his mommy was f'n laugh-out- loud-funny. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10978439380121383472014-08-14T17:37:05.297-04:002014-08-14T17:37:05.297-04:00Sigh. David oh David. I think just about everyone ...Sigh. David oh David. I think just about everyone knows that blacks are more often killed by blacks than by whites --- which isn't really the same thing as saying that the greatest threat to the lives of black Americans is from other blacks (though I think you elide the two claims).<br /><br />If you hadn't noticed, we still live in a highly segregated society. Black, white, yellow, red, brown -- everyone is most at risk from the people they live among (especially family). Everyone is also most served and nourished by the people they live among. I bet more black children are fed and bathed and tucked into bed at night by black people than by white people, too. So what?<br /><br />All that is an entirely different subject from today's Jim Crow, which relies on new forms of intimidation to keep people of color "in their place." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63092483721310939442014-08-14T17:11:41.163-04:002014-08-14T17:11:41.163-04:00This tragedy deserves all the attention it's r...This tragedy deserves all the attention it's receiving. Still, one might keep in mind that the greatest threat to the lives of black Americans is from other blacks. <br /><br />America's media doesn't present it this way. When one black person murders another black person, that tragedy generally receives little media attention. (The killing of Trayvon Martin was a similar anomaly. The huge attention it received gave the impression that the biggest threat to black Americans comes from whites (or, in this case, Hispanics), rather than from other blacks.<br /><br />IMHO those who are concerned about the welfare of black Americans ought to focus more attention on black-on-black crime.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-10715568102068038982014-08-14T16:35:32.122-04:002014-08-14T16:35:32.122-04:00Nobody told those thugs they could walk in the dam...Nobody told those thugs they could walk in the damn street.<br />Didn't they learn anything from Trayvon?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-522589615264217572014-08-14T16:31:22.020-04:002014-08-14T16:31:22.020-04:00Anonymous @ 12:51 it is wrong for both you and Bob...Anonymous @ 12:51 it is wrong for both you and Bob to complain that anybody does anything because they "are college kids" other than go to college.<br /><br />Oily oligeanous old coot Somerby, born a wee two years after that crone Diane Sawyer, began his attacks on "new kids" by taking aim reporters with eight and nine years of experience.<br /><br />I am reminded of the link yesterday to the profile written about Bob a few decades ago. He had a scant ten weeks of training before he was, fresh out of college, given charge of a classroom of schoolchildren. I imagine he had no more supervision than an intern at the Washington Post.<br /><br />Philip Rucker, one of the "new kids" with an Ivy degree Bob disparages is about 30. Look at the description of teacher Bob Somerby at that age:<br /><br />"He was 30, an age when he had expected to know what he was doing and to be doing what he wanted. He didn't, and he wasn't. He taught two more years, this time at a junior high. One afternoon in the faculty lounge, he scanned the room and saw colleague after colleague exhibiting the symptoms of clinical depression. He felt the same."<br /><br />Is it wrong for Somerby to complain about college kids? Yes.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57065031389352857212014-08-14T16:07:00.075-04:002014-08-14T16:07:00.075-04:00Remember, nobody explicitly told the cops to stay ...Remember, nobody explicitly told the cops to stay in their armored vehicls.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15282992010943109172014-08-14T15:56:45.752-04:002014-08-14T15:56:45.752-04:00@3:54
Seems to be a scare phrase?
You are:
A) B...@3:54<br /><br /><strong>Seems</strong> to be a scare phrase?<br /><br />You are:<br /><br />A) Blind, in which case you have an excuse and we apologize for what follows.<br /><br />B) A typical Bob reader who follows no links<br /><br />C) Stupid<br /><br />D) Both B and C<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-13318032464111350602014-08-14T15:45:43.464-04:002014-08-14T15:45:43.464-04:00Want to improve your writing? Read "The Sense...Want to improve your writing? Read "The Sense of Style: the Thinking Person's Guide to Writing in the 21st Century" by Steven Pinker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2407402533881240512014-08-14T15:45:28.144-04:002014-08-14T15:45:28.144-04:00I'm still not sure what Bob meant by a virtual...I'm still not sure what Bob meant by a virtual Chucky doll.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com