tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post7480398599116594368..comments2024-03-29T06:44:19.414-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Supplemental: Concerning homicides in Chi-raq!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77734599060986081612015-12-06T19:14:02.341-05:002015-12-06T19:14:02.341-05:00Two charts showing that gun homicides have decline...Two charts showing that gun homicides have declined while gun ownership grew -- both by large amounts. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/12/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-gun-debate-in-two-charts.phpDavid in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-7514844802866367822015-12-06T14:35:37.022-05:002015-12-06T14:35:37.022-05:00The rate of child birth for unmarried mothers cont...The rate of child birth for unmarried mothers continued to increase until 2008. <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db162_fig1.png" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a> <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db162_table.pdf" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a> <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db162.htm" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a><br /><br />Then again I suppose there's a learned behavior or traditional behavior aspect to the matter which could delay the impact of a change in environmental conditions.<br /><br />Meanwhile other CDC data shows that:<br /><br />[QUOTE]<br /><br /><b>*</b> The percentage of fathers aged 15–44 whose first births were nonmarital was lower in the 2000s (36%) than in the previous 2 decades.<br /><br /><b>*</b> Fathers with first births in the 2000s were more likely to be in a nonmarital cohabiting union (24%) than those in the 1980s (19%).<br /><br /><b>*</b> The percentage of fathers with a nonmarital first birth over the past 3 decades has remained similar for Hispanic and non-Hispanic white men, but has declined for non-Hispanic black men (1980s, 77%; 2000s, 66%).<br /><br /><b>*</b> Fathers with nonmarital first births in the 2000s were less likely to be non-Hispanic black men (21%) than Hispanic (33%) or non-Hispanic white (39%) men.<br /><br /><b>*</b> Fathers with nonmarital first births in the 2000s were more likely to be older at the time of the birth (33%) than those in the previous 2 decades.<br /><br />[END QUOTE]<br /><br /><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db204_fig1.png" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a> <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db204.htm" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a><br /><br />And, of course, we don't have the data in front of us regarding the propensity for the children of unmarried women(/no man in the house during the formative years) versus the children of married women(/man in the house during the formative years) to commit violent crime sometime during their lives.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57263404743107742542015-12-06T11:58:50.431-05:002015-12-06T11:58:50.431-05:00Isn't Harlem still the center of black culture...Isn't Harlem still the center of black culture and politics in the US?hardindrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05275899305949454964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69787979509864021362015-12-06T09:01:05.957-05:002015-12-06T09:01:05.957-05:00CMike, lead exposure in childhood promotes all kin...CMike, lead exposure in childhood promotes all kinds of anti-social behavior in adolescence and adulthood. The lead damages those parts of the growing brain that later help us to foresee the consequences of our actions and to restrain ourselves.impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28888490139715103622015-12-05T20:18:19.490-05:002015-12-05T20:18:19.490-05:00Anon Dec 5 at 3:31 -- Irresponsible sexual behavio...Anon Dec 5 at 3:31 -- Irresponsible sexual behavior, too, rises after childhood exposure to lead.impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29889743045631059982015-12-05T17:41:45.798-05:002015-12-05T17:41:45.798-05:00tytyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41560781742355756342015-12-05T16:10:54.465-05:002015-12-05T16:10:54.465-05:00@ 3:37 PM
Is your point the higher the illegitima...@ 3:37 PM<br /><br />Is your point the higher the illegitimacy rate the lower the violent crime rate or are you just not following along with what's being discussed at all?CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57687898336843689712015-12-05T15:37:17.916-05:002015-12-05T15:37:17.916-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30234718231690396112015-12-05T15:33:55.958-05:002015-12-05T15:33:55.958-05:00If these statistics are correct, it appears widesp...If these statistics are correct, it appears widespread gun ownership in certain cultural settings is not correlated with gun murders but under other cultural conditions it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91462656649298737772015-12-05T15:31:17.502-05:002015-12-05T15:31:17.502-05:00Yes, it's lead paint, not a 75% illegitimacy r...Yes, it's lead paint, not a 75% illegitimacy rate and no fathers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35773139541345439722015-12-05T14:55:38.375-05:002015-12-05T14:55:38.375-05:00[QUOTE] The problem with the lead hypothesis is th...[QUOTE] <i>The problem with the lead hypothesis is that it doesn't hold up when looking at world-wide statistics...</i> [END QUOTE]<br /><br />Huh? <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/01/lead-and-crime-ill-be-melissa-harris-perry-show-sunday-10-am" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a>CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4646628992085143102015-12-05T14:53:22.655-05:002015-12-05T14:53:22.655-05:00David, most liberals can't be bothered with le...David, most liberals can't be bothered with lead. They'd rather look for social causes of crime.<br /><br />At least one way lead damages the growing brain has been found.<br /><br />http://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/2000/lead-change.html<br /><br />Crime rose and fell twenty years after leaded paint was introduced and banned. Later, the same thing happened with leaded gasoline. Each country that banned leaded gasoline saw a decrease in crime twenty years later.impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5199352837735708902015-12-05T12:26:18.325-05:002015-12-05T12:26:18.325-05:00Wyoming
Gun ownership rate: 59.7%
Gun homicides ...Wyoming <br />Gun ownership rate: 59.7%<br />Gun homicides per 100,000: 0.9<br /><br />Washington DC<br />Gun ownership rate: 3.6%<br />gun homicides per 100,000: 16.5Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31500286087731997892015-12-05T12:24:10.376-05:002015-12-05T12:24:10.376-05:00One wonders how many of that 432 were deterred by ...One wonders how many of that 432 were deterred by regulation from purchasing a gun, and would be alive but for that obstacle. <br /><br />One wonders if it should have been their right to have the means to protect themselves, or if they are obligated to sacrifice their and their families' lives at the altar of the greater good of statistics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80687876447822004242015-12-05T11:09:34.254-05:002015-12-05T11:09:34.254-05:00impCaesarAvgDecember 5, 2015 at 10:33 AM -- I have...impCaesarAvgDecember 5, 2015 at 10:33 AM -- I have seen various liberals make this claim about leaded gasoline. It may be correct, but it's not a verified fact. Just a theory. Proving cause is a bitch.David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26759176399360705812015-12-05T10:47:59.571-05:002015-12-05T10:47:59.571-05:00@ 2:28 - Flabbergasted at the media stampeding int...@ 2:28 - Flabbergasted at the media stampeding into the humble abode of mass murderers. That it was allowed to happen and that MSNBC showed Social Security Cards live on cable TV. I'm interested in Bob's opinion on the media debacle, not the attack itself.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37670314916689457412015-12-05T10:44:15.090-05:002015-12-05T10:44:15.090-05:00The statistics also rise and fall with drug-relate...The statistics also rise and fall with drug-related gang activity. The problem with the lead hypothesis is that it doesn't hold up when looking at world-wide statistics whereas drug involvement crosses national boundaries. Lead abatement is a purely national effort. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66693618858445134892015-12-05T10:33:18.862-05:002015-12-05T10:33:18.862-05:00The cause of the rise and fall of crime rates is k...The cause of the rise and fall of crime rates is known: leaded gasoline, and its phase-out in the 1970s. Crime follows lead with a twenty-year lag, as kids whose brains have been affected grow up. Read Kevin Drum's excellent articles and posts for Mother Jones.<br /><br />Neither liberals nor conservatives want to understand this.impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71170282126223045472015-12-05T09:24:10.282-05:002015-12-05T09:24:10.282-05:00@5:32
" musings on the mainstream "pres...@5:32<br /><br />" musings on the mainstream "press corps" and the american discourse"<br /><br />What should anyone think about it? Somerby doesn't write a news blog but it is safe to assume he is as upset by such events as anyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39639893393740355232015-12-05T09:20:34.817-05:002015-12-05T09:20:34.817-05:00Drum's hypothesis hasn't gained traction b...Drum's hypothesis hasn't gained traction because there are competing explanations that make just as much sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55900764465885338222015-12-05T09:18:27.211-05:002015-12-05T09:18:27.211-05:00Spike Lee's movies are always about race. Chic...Spike Lee's movies are always about race. Chicago is a center, maybe the center, for black culture and politics in the US. That's why Obama moved there as a young man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78795909102896334192015-12-05T06:00:21.028-05:002015-12-05T06:00:21.028-05:00Screaming from without this numbers analysis — par...Screaming from without this numbers analysis — particularly as it is truly topical — are homicide rates involving police as perp. My bet is that this figure is buried & unattainable – that is, the most glaring omission never to be included in the statistical roundup.davidlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04754707934311038544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1864684720441824152015-12-05T05:55:07.174-05:002015-12-05T05:55:07.174-05:00One might as likely wonder why he chose Wicker Par...One might as likely wonder why he chose Wicker Park to shoot instead of the West or South Side.davidlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04754707934311038544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-32702768972563814032015-12-05T02:52:23.538-05:002015-12-05T02:52:23.538-05:00Back in January of 2013 Alex Knapp [LINK] in un-Fo...Back in January of 2013 Alex Knapp <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2013/01/03/how-lead-caused-americas-violent-crime-epidemic/" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a> in un-<i>Forbes</i> like fashion highlighted a <i>Mother Jones</i> article, over-selling it a tad at that:<br /><br />[QUOTE] <i>Starting in the 1960s, America saw a huge increase in levels of violent crime that peaked in the early 1990s, then steadily declined, and continues to decline today. All kinds of theories have been promulgated to explain this peak and decline in crime, and plenty of politicians in the 1990s took credit for it.<br /><br />But in what I personally consider to be a </i>tour de force<i> of journalism, <b>Kevin Drum of Mother Jones has summarized all of the available research. All of it points to one simple idea: violent crime rose as a result of...</b></i> <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-link-gasoline" rel="nofollow"><b>***[The Drum Article]***</b></a><br />[END QUOTE]<br /><br />Drum references two early responses to his article here <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/01/lead-and-crime-assessing-evidence" rel="nofollow">[LINK].</a> On the nature of modern industrial capitalism Drum passes along this entwined tale <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/01/how-did-lead-get-our-gasoline-anyway" rel="nofollow">[LINK].</a> For a long list of what Drum's written on the subject of the rise and fall of violent crime rates, including some recent posts, go here <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/search/apachesolr_search/drum%20crime%20lead" rel="nofollow">[LINK]</a>CMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13481861530761114492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-72908812522247305252015-12-05T02:28:19.754-05:002015-12-05T02:28:19.754-05:00Just wondering why you are flabbergasted. Isis has...Just wondering why you are flabbergasted. Isis has called for strikes in America and have called for people inside their countries to do them just as this couple did. American press doesn't follow isis as closely as European press. It's funny how poorly informed US is about this and a lot of other things. More attacks and blood are coming and isis is a huge, huge deal. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com