tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post7682501579102505797..comments2024-03-18T23:40:21.985-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Things we can learn from Mr. Brady!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-35419742978951323122014-01-14T17:44:19.596-05:002014-01-14T17:44:19.596-05:00Some climatologists believe in CACC. Some non-cli...Some climatologists believe in CACC. Some non-climatologists believe in CACC. Some climatologists are uncertain about CACC or disbelieve it. Therefore the word "climatologist" isn't identical with the set of people who believe in CACC.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37082992326786901972014-01-14T10:49:09.520-05:002014-01-14T10:49:09.520-05:00"We can't use the word "climatologis..."We can't use the word "climatologist" to mean people who believe in catastrophic anthropogenic climate change because some climatologists believe there are fundamental uncertainties."<br /><br />Your words. The only "climatologists" are those who "believe there are fundamental uncertainties."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-40212058885738775792014-01-14T09:41:33.457-05:002014-01-14T09:41:33.457-05:00Yes. If the Colts happened to win that game, I gue...Yes. If the Colts happened to win that game, I guess it means climate denial would also have won. Thank God for the New England Patriots!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-61212336484870390722014-01-14T09:35:29.375-05:002014-01-14T09:35:29.375-05:00Ah, so only the few "climatologists" who...Ah, so only the few "climatologists" who agree with you deserve the title, while the vast majority who disagree do not.<br /><br />Interesting.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-17531663717175430502014-01-14T05:30:29.609-05:002014-01-14T05:30:29.609-05:00We can't use the word "climatologist"...We can't use the word "climatologist" to mean people who believe in catastrophic anthropogenic climate change (CACC), because some climatologists believe there are <a href="http://judithcurry.com/2014/01/08/the-fundamental-uncertainties-of-climate-change/" rel="nofollow">fundamental uncertainties</a><br /><br /><i>There is more than enough uncertainty about the forecasting of climate to allow normal human beings to be at least reasonably hopeful that global warming might not be nearly as bad as is currently touted….The World Meteorological Organization of the United Nations [conference]...in the early nineteen-seventies… focused on just two [uncertainties]. The first concerned an inability to simulate the amount and character of clouds in the atmosphere. Clouds are important because they govern the balance between solar heating and infrared cooling of the planet, and thereby are a control of Earth’s temperature. The second concerned an inability to forecast the behaviour of oceans. Oceans are important because they are the main reservoirs of heat in the climate system. They have internal, more-or-less random, fluctuations on all sorts of time-scales ranging from years through to centuries. These fluctuations cause changes in ocean surface temperature that in turn affect Earth’s overall climate.<br /><br />The situation hasn’t changed all that much in the decades since the conference....</i><br /><br />Some other climatologists go farther and reject current climate models as unsound. E.g., William Gray, Richard Lindzen, Fred Singer, Tim Patterson, etc.<br /><br />Also, many people who believe in CACC are not scientists at all, so cannot be called "climatologists."David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44664192914514827302014-01-14T00:37:10.403-05:002014-01-14T00:37:10.403-05:00how about "climatologists."how about "climatologists."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73672959969617441972014-01-13T23:48:51.226-05:002014-01-13T23:48:51.226-05:00not sure what the topic is but this isnt on it:
b...not sure what the topic is but this isnt on it:<br /><br />brady marries a model who, believe it or not, makes or made more money than him. the dominant are attracted to the dominant, not just mate-wise but socially generally. this seems to be human nature and the genesis of aristocracy.<br /><br />we as a putative democracy need to artificially do whatever we can to place roadblocks to these successful social climbers to minimize their control of the levers of power in this country.<br /><br />we need mentally to develop a revulsion, a disgust for these people, and by association, those who we see idolizing or gravitating to them.<br /><br />the solution to many of our countries ills is found between our ears. we should want to vomit when we hear someone has gone to harvard or yale, etc. or if they have any cinematic celebrity or association to any form of royalty, past or present.<br /><br />they are for their gang of aristocrats, not the vast majority of us. they are the enemy within.<br />american commander, silly blogsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-91361288919927251982014-01-13T21:28:42.905-05:002014-01-13T21:28:42.905-05:00PS to AnonymousJanuary 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM: sorry...PS to AnonymousJanuary 13, 2014 at 8:27 PM: sorry you were offended by the term "warmist". I didn't mean to offend. I meant it to refer to those who believe with a high degree of confidence that the earth is warming, that anthropogenic emissions are the primary cause of this warming, and that the warming will be catastrophic. What label would you prefer for this group of people?David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-8361384306069601962014-01-13T21:23:58.245-05:002014-01-13T21:23:58.245-05:00Spot on parody. Leave it to a Boston sports fan to...Spot on parody. Leave it to a Boston sports fan to go over the top with ridiculous "hometown" platitudes. When their sports team wins it's supposedly for all of mankind. They really are that full of themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28403947573016508792014-01-13T21:13:23.653-05:002014-01-13T21:13:23.653-05:00Huh? This link precisely confirms what I wrote, n...Huh? This link precisely confirms what I wrote, namely "the article doesn't show actual data even for the piece [of Antarctica] it addresses. The article refers to Gael Durand's prediction."<br /><br />Incidentally, Anon 6:03 PM, if you go to this <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGNI_enUS497US497&q=antarctic+sea+ice+2013+record" rel="nofollow"> google page</a> , you can that lots of publications have reported Antarctic sea ice growing to record extent, including such liberal organs as WaPo and the Guardian. Anon 6:03 PM, do you want to rescind your comment?David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5338141304196089152014-01-13T20:48:49.486-05:002014-01-13T20:48:49.486-05:00Bob, this is a distraction. Please go back to writ...Bob, this is a distraction. Please go back to writing about black children. No one else will; no one else cares.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49525288132953419902014-01-13T20:27:44.622-05:002014-01-13T20:27:44.622-05:00http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2014/01/13/...http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2014/01/13/3924653.htm <br /><br />This link directly contradicts what you are writing about, try reading the link and try not being offensive with bizarre terms such as "warmist."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-56810650128133796492014-01-13T20:05:37.247-05:002014-01-13T20:05:37.247-05:00Gee, I didn't even know of the theory that the...Gee, I didn't even know of the theory that the Patriots could only win in the snow. I would think there would be a lot of evidence to the contrary, but thankfully Bob is here to set the record straight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51455260576235253322014-01-13T20:00:42.907-05:002014-01-13T20:00:42.907-05:00I have no idea what this post is about, none at al...I have no idea what this post is about, none at all. What is the point being made, and why be impossibly obscure with no hint to a reader?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49084240839723872682014-01-13T19:09:41.199-05:002014-01-13T19:09:41.199-05:00He did it by overturning the theory that the Patri...He did it by overturning the theory that the Patriots can only win in the snow because Brady can then throw TD passes while the defense is hampered by weather conditions. In this game the Patriots won because the other teams allowed interceptions, despite Brady not completing any TD passes. So, he confounded the climate-based theories about why the Patriots are a successful team.<br /><br />This is a post about football, not global warming (aside from the unusually warm, rainy weather during the game).<br /><br />You can choose to be part of the Big Stoopid or oppose it. The first step is to think before commenting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-780077105906792992014-01-13T18:36:29.077-05:002014-01-13T18:36:29.077-05:00"...although I don't have a link handy.&q..."...although I don't have a link handy."<br /><br />Imagine that.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25900911533451775042014-01-13T18:34:22.587-05:002014-01-13T18:34:22.587-05:00Thanks for that link Anon. It illustrates the kin...Thanks for that link Anon. It illustrates the kind of deceptive cherry-picking done by the warmist side. That article says nothing about the total extent of Antarctic ice. By focusing on one piece of it, the article gives the impression that all Antarctic ice is shrinking. BTW the article doesn't show actual data even for the piece if addresses. The article refers to Gael Durand's <i>prediction</i>. I believe I've seen other experts whose predictions differ, although I don't have a link handy.<br /><br />To see the total Arctic and Antarctic sea ice, go to http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2014/01/13/3924653.htm <br />This site shows a plethora of exhibits. The very first one shows global sea ice extent. The red line at the bottom is slightly above the long term average, as you can see.<br /><br />BTW the article you linked to refers to a glacier on land. My comment and my link are about sea ice. Although one might imagine that glaciers and sea ice would change in the same direction, that's not necessarily the case.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79160248340754743292014-01-13T18:03:45.248-05:002014-01-13T18:03:45.248-05:00Unfortunately David, wherever you got your notion ...Unfortunately David, wherever you got your notion of expanding Antarctic ice is selling you bullroar.<br /><br />http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2014/01/13/3924653.htm<br /><br />But I do agree with you on your middle graph. Don't confuse the weather in one particular spot at one particular time with global climate change.<br /><br />Only idiots do that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29216692383892112482014-01-13T17:52:16.794-05:002014-01-13T17:52:16.794-05:00There's no doubt that the globe has warmed and...There's no doubt that the globe has warmed and that anthropogenic gases have a warming impact, However, the key question is the <i>magnitude</i> of that impact. The actual rate of warming since 1979 has been less than half as fast as the UN IPCC says it should be. And, there's been essentially no warming at all since 1997 or so. <br /><br />Mirroring those who wrongly claim that a cold spell proves the world isn't warming are those on the other side who claim that a warm spell or a hurricane proves that that climate change <i>is</i> taking place. <br /><br />Then there are those who point to the shrinking area of Arctic ice without mentioning that the area of <i>Antarctic</i> ice has expanded as much as Arctic ice has shrunk. Today, the total area of global sea-ice is slightly larger than the long-term average, but climate change worriers won't tell you that fact.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83732097268841382922014-01-13T17:17:34.428-05:002014-01-13T17:17:34.428-05:00I am certain that in the next "director's...I am certain that in the next "director's cut" re-issue of "An Inconvenient Truth" we will have footage added of Tom Brady beating the Colts in a New England downpour.<br /><br />That should shut up The Big Stupid once and for all.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19385975739191709562014-01-13T17:08:31.011-05:002014-01-13T17:08:31.011-05:00Let me try that again:
I have now read the excerp...Let me try that again:<br /><br />I have now read the excerpt 12 times, and I still CAN'T tell what Tom Brady's views on climate change are.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28262093121645717352014-01-13T16:51:14.070-05:002014-01-13T16:51:14.070-05:00I'm reading that Araton excerpt for about the ...I'm reading that Araton excerpt for about the 10th time, and I still tell what Tom Brady's views on climate change are.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81190413036857539562014-01-13T16:40:49.974-05:002014-01-13T16:40:49.974-05:00Somerby actually says that himself (see the quote ...Somerby actually says that himself (see the quote by Araton excerpted).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-77194376674675838032014-01-13T16:36:07.062-05:002014-01-13T16:36:07.062-05:00Well, the Big Stupid might also conclude Tom Brady...Well, the Big Stupid might also conclude Tom Brady beat the Colts even though he did not throw a single touchdown pass.<br />The Patriots, with a far superior offensive line, rushed for all six of their scores.<br /><br />Bob Somerby doesn't care about black running backs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-42884594626512747312014-01-13T16:13:18.005-05:002014-01-13T16:13:18.005-05:00Surely, Somerby isn't using the same logic as ...Surely, Somerby isn't using the same logic as the Big Stupid. <br /><br />The overwhelming body of science on global warming/climate change is based on far more than the weather on any particular day in New England.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com