tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post7984287562026611634..comments2024-03-28T08:51:18.908-04:00Comments on the daily howler: The smiling face of cable TV’s female ex-prosecutors!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12675265158635203172021-07-31T09:34:10.964-04:002021-07-31T09:34:10.964-04:00I need to to thank you for this fantastic read!! I...I need to to thank you for this fantastic read!! I definitely loved every little bit of it. I’ve got you saved as a favorite to look at new stuff you post… <a href="https://site-4369653-8068-9650.mystrikingly.com/" title="사설토토" rel="nofollow">사설토토</a><br />totopickprohttps://racesiteinfo614563714.wordpress.com/2021/06/26/what-is-formula-one-in-auto-racing/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26576018345856888482021-07-31T09:32:38.666-04:002021-07-31T09:32:38.666-04:00What’s Taking place i’m new to this, I stumbled up...What’s Taking place i’m new to this, I stumbled upon this I’ve found It absolutely useful and it has aided me out loads. I hope to give a contribution & aid other<br />customers like its aided me. Great job. <a href="https://site-4333725-7119-6834.mystrikingly.com/" title="메이저사이트" rel="nofollow">메이저사이트</a><br /><br />majortotositeprohttps://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/22008459-muay-thainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79678566995094768652013-07-28T12:21:32.856-04:002013-07-28T12:21:32.856-04:00In the cell phone text messages, Martin talks abou...In the cell phone text messages, Martin talks about hiding his grass at home because he did not want to take it on the bus with him to FL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14791521797121501752013-07-27T21:19:49.567-04:002013-07-27T21:19:49.567-04:00I have a hunch Martin's "suspicious"...I have a hunch Martin's "suspicious" behavior may have been nothing more than cautiously looking for a place out of plain view to take a toke. May offer motive and help explain Martin possibly going 'home' to hide his stash in the anticipation of trouble, then doubling back to confront Zimmerman? <br /><br />MaxFrostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51245197369627629092013-07-26T14:53:20.303-04:002013-07-26T14:53:20.303-04:00I'd be willing to concede you are correct in t...I'd be willing to concede you are correct in the sense that in the common law, self-defense and justifiable homicide are two separate concepts. But I've reviewed the Florida statutory scheme and, as far as I can tell, the chapter I am referring to entitled "Justifiable Use of Force" seems to set forth what would be substantively known as self-defense claims.<br /><br />In fact the jury instructions seem to support what I am saying. Look at the heading in the instructions "Justifiable Use of Deadly Force" which directly addresses the issue of "whether George Zimmerman acted in self-defense". This part lifts language directly from §776.012(1) from the same Chapter 776 I cited above:<br /><br />http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Zimmerman_Final_Jury_Instructions.pdf<br /><br />So I still think Hostin clearly wasn't aware of the applicable Florida law. If you know of applicable authority under Florida law that supports what you are claiming, I would be interested in seeing it.<br /><br />I'm completely open to the possibility I am wrong about this, but I don't think I am.madProphethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264426335213395909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18126528202305978452013-07-26T13:04:32.056-04:002013-07-26T13:04:32.056-04:00Don't forget the teen er "child" who...Don't forget the teen er "child" whose home invasions George helped put an end to. The youngster can't terrorize young mothers again for at least five years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59659653840011945672013-07-26T12:40:26.432-04:002013-07-26T12:40:26.432-04:00No, Hostin is right if slightly misleading.
You c...No, Hostin is right if slightly misleading.<br /><br />You cannot claim self defense if you provoked the fight.<br /><br />However, you can claim justifiable homicide - a different standard. That's the law you linked to: justifiable homicide.<br /><br />Self defense and justifiable homicide are two separate defenses.Steve M. Galbraithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728237625873443198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-19377759069419114712013-07-26T12:29:08.944-04:002013-07-26T12:29:08.944-04:00Why you following me? You gotta problem with me? ...Why you following me? You gotta problem with me? You do now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26125999308616265682013-07-26T12:24:31.777-04:002013-07-26T12:24:31.777-04:00Yep. And that wannabe gangsta punk Trayvon won...Yep. And that wannabe gangsta punk Trayvon won't be coming back to steal jewels and laptops high on weed and Purple Drank. And remember, keep your garage doors shut and your kids out of the cul-de-sac. Cause George is on patrol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3121264810745602912013-07-26T12:19:58.114-04:002013-07-26T12:19:58.114-04:00Something wrong with "my work"? Care to ...Something wrong with "my work"? Care to point out what it is?madProphethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264426335213395909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44525293752051414372013-07-26T12:17:26.514-04:002013-07-26T12:17:26.514-04:00"Unfortunately for Zimmerman, nobody saw anyo..."Unfortunately for Zimmerman, nobody saw anyone beating his head against concrete."<br /><br />Unicorns did it.<br /><br />"And if you are a cocky seventeen year old taught to "stand your ground" in a place you have every right to be, you might decide to duke that follower out"<br /><br />The problem with that is if you have 4 minutes to go away but you double back and initiate violence because you're a cocky young man, you grant your victim certain rights to defend himself and your claim of standing your ground will be shaky, while your target's claim will be made stronger.<br /><br />All of that is moot if you go as far as to block his exit and cause reasonable fear by breaking his nose and beating his head into concrete. At that point you've given him license to kill you.<br /><br />In your bar scenario, whether it would be justified would depend on whether the physically attacked person had a reasonable fear of serious injury or death. If he was on the ground getting his head beaten into concrete, screaming and underneath his assailant, chances are any jury will believe his fear was reasonable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18988901783887604962013-07-26T12:13:08.656-04:002013-07-26T12:13:08.656-04:00When white women are threatening to sever the last...When white women are threatening to sever the last thread of civilization somebody has to inteervene.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-727113669489842052013-07-26T12:09:09.222-04:002013-07-26T12:09:09.222-04:00Since you are twisting my words to prove twisted l...Since you are twisting my words to prove twisted logic, we ought to get old Chubby Checker down here and twist again like we did last summer.<br /><br />Unfortunately for Zimmerman, nobody saw anyone beating his head against concrete.<br />He said that happened. You choose to believe him. <br /><br />Following is legal. People follwing you can sometimes simply be headed in the same direction. But people who drive up behind you in a car, pull ahead, stop, park, and look at you when you walk by might arouse your suspicion. When they later get out of their car, in the dark on a rainy night, carrying something they are slapping around in their hand and continue to follow around corners, then you might suspect, without paranoia, they are following you with something less than benevolent intent. And if you are a cocky seventeen year old taught to "stand your ground" in a place you have every right to be, you might decide to duke that follower out.<br /><br />Now, the behavior of the person I just described who was being followed might be kind of like that of a young man in a bar, who upon hearing his friend had been physically jerked out of the bar by some big guy, went to help his friend. Words were spoken and he physically attacked the big guy molesting his friend. The big guy could have been armed and shot the young would be rescuer. Shot him dead in the heart. Would that be justified? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-57174058192621318982013-07-26T12:07:10.414-04:002013-07-26T12:07:10.414-04:00Yeah, I get it anonymous.
The predictions might b...Yeah, I get it anonymous.<br /><br />The predictions might be nearly 100% accurate, but it's racist to acknowledge these facts.<br /><br />Again, reality seems to have a racist bias. We can only escape racism by denying reality.highly_adequatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-9110505248880438512013-07-26T11:52:29.005-04:002013-07-26T11:52:29.005-04:00Yes anon@ 11:26. Zimmerman did not feel the suspi...Yes anon@ 11:26. Zimmerman did not feel the suspicious behavior of "suspect" Martin merited calling the emergency number and get the squad cars rolling with their lights flashing and sirens blaring. He just felt it merited following himself with a loaded gun on his hip with a hollow point in the chamber, because, as he stated, even when you call the real cops, the assholes "always get away."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18678018344355272552013-07-26T11:26:46.178-04:002013-07-26T11:26:46.178-04:00Bob, you made an error in this post. Zimmerman nev...Bob, you made an error in this post. Zimmerman never called 911 on Martin. He called a non-emergency number because he did not not think it was an emergency. This is an important point that Zimmerman persecutors always overlook in their smears of him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27430798642582085112013-07-26T11:12:28.430-04:002013-07-26T11:12:28.430-04:00"with a criminal violation of law for the act..."with a criminal violation of law for the act he committed when he shot the unarmed teen he had been following in the dark." <br /><br />That's called "self defense" against someone beating your head into concrete, which is what was happening during the "act he committed when he followed (following would be legal if it did occur, by the way)" <br /><br />A crime and self defense can't exist in the same act.<br /><br />Some of the twisted logic around this case is concerning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-46582070164928070932013-07-26T11:07:56.001-04:002013-07-26T11:07:56.001-04:00You're reduced to critiquing the Nancy Grace s...You're reduced to critiquing the Nancy Grace show? How sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39807912052815127052013-07-26T10:33:58.627-04:002013-07-26T10:33:58.627-04:00Yes. I believe predictability skills applied to r...Yes. I believe predictability skills applied to race is what made Jimmy the Greek great too. Of course he and that intellectual fellow traveller of yours from Iowa who is making headlines this week were focused on leg muscles, not just intellectual ability, like you are. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41470626449406605732013-07-26T10:22:35.048-04:002013-07-26T10:22:35.048-04:00A. Perez
I didn't call you racist or even att...A. Perez<br /><br />I didn't call you racist or even attempt earlier to lump you in with the right wing rhetoric exhibited by the newest Somerby fans. But your last comment was truly idiotic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59290666769940528512013-07-26T09:33:38.616-04:002013-07-26T09:33:38.616-04:00"The speculative scenarios that the defense p..."The speculative scenarios that the defense presented were from GZ's perspective, without corroborating testimony."<br /><br />Jonathon Good. Photos of the back of Zimmerman's head, taken the night of the killing. <br /><br />Corroborating? Possibly enough for reasonable doubt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25458846252377449022013-07-26T06:59:52.227-04:002013-07-26T06:59:52.227-04:00I would like to appreciate your work and would lik...I would like to appreciate your work and would like to tell to my friends.criminal lawyer in Torontohttp://ernstashurovlaw.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-1101868879063243642013-07-26T06:27:40.337-04:002013-07-26T06:27:40.337-04:00lol, "anonymous" now makes up the "...lol, "anonymous" now makes up the "fact" that all Zimmerman defenders accused Trayvon of attempted murder, simply by being Zimmerman defenders.<br /><br />Haha!A Pereznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28979906083824713892013-07-26T03:44:16.924-04:002013-07-26T03:44:16.924-04:00Hostin says: "You cannot avail yourself of a ...Hostin says: "You cannot avail yourself of a self-defense claim when you are the first aggressor, you start a fight, even if you're losing it."<br /><br />FWIW, this is absolutely false. She would know that that was a false statement had she reviewed Florida's self-defense statutes, specifically §776.041(2): http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799%2F0776%2F0776.html<br /><br />But then it's pretty clear she didn't review it. Some great legal analysis there.madProphethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03264426335213395909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-85673388638188581662013-07-26T01:29:59.128-04:002013-07-26T01:29:59.128-04:00Anon @ 12:55 AM
Would you prefer it read "wi...Anon @ 12:55 AM<br /><br />Would you prefer it read "with a criminal violation of law for the act he committed when he shot the unarmed teen he had been following in the dark." ?<br /><br />Bob is always partly faulting the editors in his posts. I have none. You can be mine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com