tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post8179639142709813928..comments2024-03-19T05:24:22.725-04:00Comments on the daily howler: This morning’s puzzler: How do we the people view the individual mandate!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25568664925753411262012-03-27T17:48:51.042-04:002012-03-27T17:48:51.042-04:00A previous poll found that 30-something percent of...A previous poll found that 30-something percent of respondents supported the individual mandate, but when they were informed that having insurance through your employer satisfied the mandate, that jumped to 60-something percent approval.<br /><br />People do not understand the law.<br /><br />It seems obvious to many that if you already have insurance, you will not be required to purchase insurance. Because you already have it. But I still hear journalists describing the law without also explaining precisely what the mandate means. So some people continue to be confused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28212161775857896012012-03-27T17:02:02.218-04:002012-03-27T17:02:02.218-04:00Useful information ..I am very happy to read this ...Useful information ..I am very happy to read this article..thanks for giving us this useful information. Fantastic walk - through. I appreciate this post.public liability insurancehttp://publicliabilityinsurance4u.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4385093439454110342012-03-27T14:08:38.525-04:002012-03-27T14:08:38.525-04:00Presumably certain governmental services be cut to...<i>Presumably certain governmental services be cut to pay the additional cost of Obamacare. Presumably, the extra costs put onto employers will lead to lower salaries and higher unemployment.</i><br /><br />Presumably, in fact certainly, you don't know what you're talking about.<br /><br />There is no reason to cut "certain governmental services" to pay additional costs of the ACA, if in fact there are any. And there is no reason why any extra costs put onto employers must lead to lower salaries and higher unemployment. You are just assuming that taxes cannot be raised and that costs will not be passed on. You are also assuming that costs will continue to rise unabated after the ACA is fully implemented, something that we do not yet know and that at least in theory will not happen.<br /><br />You are right that ignoring costs and practicality has led to trillion dollar deficits. It was always impractical to insist on cutting taxes for the wealthy while fighting unending overseas wars and letting the malefactors of great wealth loot the public treasury at will.<br /><br />I'm not sure what theory/reality contrast you are trying to illustrate with that 2006 article. Those elderly patient deaths were attributed to discrimination and lack of facilities, not inability to provide facilities due to cost; and if you read the whole article you would see that the study cited did not take into account a 2001 initiative intended to directly address the problem.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10719212263455435772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51369349884595016482012-03-27T12:11:58.217-04:002012-03-27T12:11:58.217-04:00It's not surprising that there's widesprea...It's not surprising that there's widespread support for such aspects of the law as requiring insurance companies to cover people with a pre-existing medical condition, allowing children to remain on their parents’ policies until the age of 26, and reducing the cost of prescription drugs for Medicare recipients. People support a law's benefits, when the question ignores cost and ignores how well the promised benefits will actually be delivered. Unfortunately, these two items can only be guessed. Presumably certain governmental services be cut to pay the additional cost of Obamacare. Presumably, the extra costs put onto employers will lead to lower salaries and higher unemployment. <br /><br />To illustrate the difference between theory and reality, consider this 2006 <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3341144/5000-elderly-killed-each-year-by-lack-of-care-beds.html" rel="nofollow">study of the UK National Health:</a> <br /><br /><i>A six-year survey of four million operations found that 85 per cent of the most vulnerable patients do not get the intensive care that could save their lives or prevent serious complications.<br />As a result, it is estimated that up to 5,000 frail and elderly patients die each year because they are not put in intensive care beds for monitoring after their operations.</i><br />IMHO ignoring costs and practicality has led to a perpetual trillion dollar deficit.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68093135348975599532012-03-27T11:40:56.103-04:002012-03-27T11:40:56.103-04:00As with most things, it depends on context and the...As with most things, it depends on context and the way the question is asked. If you explain to folks that the uninsured will be treated anyway and that the cost is passed on to those who do have insurance then the answers change dramatically. People have reacted to the talking points and not to what the Bill may or may not actually accomplish. Since there are 1000 pages to this puppy it is unlikely that anyone has actually read the whole thing.David E. Tuckernoreply@blogger.com