tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post880213308266432456..comments2024-03-29T04:57:22.173-04:00Comments on the daily howler: Supplemental: New data concerning the water in Flint! <b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-38193959477664925232016-02-03T01:33:48.958-05:002016-02-03T01:33:48.958-05:00When has Maddow ever had Amy Goodman on her show?
...When has Maddow ever had Amy Goodman on her show?<br /><br />I've never heard of Goodman even being mentioned on MSNBC. And yet they mine her show for all the good nuggets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-2380342514529464062016-02-02T01:34:33.007-05:002016-02-02T01:34:33.007-05:00FDR was born in New York. JFK was born in Massachu...FDR was born in New York. JFK was born in Massachusetts. FDR had polio. JFK had a bad back. FDR was married to Eleanor. JFK was married to Jacqueline. FDR skippered boats. JFK skippered boats too. FDR died. JFK died too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52014774802512560012016-02-02T01:30:36.542-05:002016-02-02T01:30:36.542-05:00Bob's blog is intended to be a source of infor...Bob's blog is intended to be a source of information. He should be consistent, He isn't, so his credibility is fair game, especially if his criticizes others for the very inconsistency he demonstrates. Mike Bakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27963778903124322592016-02-01T15:25:56.641-05:002016-02-01T15:25:56.641-05:00Anyone with a conscience should give substantial a...Anyone with a conscience should give substantial amounts of money away and live on what is needed to sustain themselves comfortably. They shouldn't accumulate wealth that denies others that same comfort. This is a religious principle in some faiths. It is a liberal tenet of faith. Sanders preaches one thing but lives differently. That's called hypocrisy, especially when he is throwing his purity in Clinton's face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60109883021325319012016-02-01T15:23:22.653-05:002016-02-01T15:23:22.653-05:00It isn't an act of generosity when you give cr...It isn't an act of generosity when you give credit to another person for their work. It is the ethically right thing to do. That she profits from their hard work instead of doing it herself makes her less of a journalist and more of a clown. Having them on her show means she has to do even less preparation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63647606344758082072016-02-01T13:33:10.559-05:002016-02-01T13:33:10.559-05:00I think it is fair to point out that the New York ...I think it is fair to point out that the New York Times and Rachel Maddow are intended to be sources of information and, therefore, can be criticized for leaving out relevant facts. It is not quite fair to say that Bob is required to repeat everything the NYT and Rachel says in order to criticize them for not telling the whole story.Dave the Guitar Playernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75016787309826847432016-02-01T12:54:42.903-05:002016-02-01T12:54:42.903-05:00Look who's talking'. ;)Look who's talking'. ;)waylonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02169019514161120820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-14148118206573001692016-02-01T12:17:31.342-05:002016-02-01T12:17:31.342-05:00I agree that Somerby is not rational about Maddow&...I agree that Somerby is not rational about Maddow's show, but I would not say he says "anything" nor is it disordered. In fact he says the same thing over and over an in pretty much the same order.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83987398774263108542016-02-01T11:05:45.115-05:002016-02-01T11:05:45.115-05:00Progressives should be poor, so they can't exe...Progressives should be poor, so they can't exert any influence. Only the rich are worthy of power, and only conservatives are worth of wealth.impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80396057510359024942016-02-01T11:02:31.524-05:002016-02-01T11:02:31.524-05:00David, be sure to read Kevin Drum:
http://www.mot...David, be sure to read Kevin Drum:<br /><br />http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/01/lead-and-race-flint%E2%80%94and-everywhere-else<br />impCaesarAvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03384806750440039982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81376832233687541652016-02-01T10:45:03.093-05:002016-02-01T10:45:03.093-05:00FDR came from a patrician family. JFK was very ri...FDR came from a patrician family. JFK was very rich. David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-47218374353770966022016-02-01T10:22:59.424-05:002016-02-01T10:22:59.424-05:00One may say anything about the Maddow Show - anyth...One may say anything about the Maddow Show - anything that might enter the most disordered imagination. The only thing one can't say is that it's rational.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-36890849614212496122016-02-01T10:15:24.860-05:002016-02-01T10:15:24.860-05:00Here is a media narrative Somerby has overlooked, ...Here is a media narrative Somerby has overlooked, once again showing bias against conservative politicians.<br /><br />talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/palin-i-never-blamed-obama-ptsdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-51713990743113146432016-02-01T10:11:28.061-05:002016-02-01T10:11:28.061-05:00Except that she doesn't. She very generously g...Except that she doesn't. She very generously gives credit to the local journalists for the stories they break and she turns the national spotlight on, and always has those local journalists as guests on her show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-12995055153265286572016-02-01T10:07:00.754-05:002016-02-01T10:07:00.754-05:00Which issues? Which issues? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-33685622421776070702016-02-01T09:55:31.716-05:002016-02-01T09:55:31.716-05:00Al Gore wasn't a journalist at the time.Al Gore wasn't a journalist at the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-23041119369372280222016-02-01T09:54:32.230-05:002016-02-01T09:54:32.230-05:00I don't own a $500,000 house (in Vermont no le...I don't own a $500,000 house (in Vermont no less). He will get a govt defined benefit pension so what does he need a 401(k) for? Not quite the man of the people -- he is one of the elite compared to those he champions. $700,000 is 7/10 of a million and he is living in a low cost of living state with a rural poverty problem. Feel that Bern.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-43713888146415021782016-02-01T09:44:19.379-05:002016-02-01T09:44:19.379-05:00Like Al Gore and Love Canal.Like Al Gore and Love Canal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52428180506964394332016-02-01T04:36:23.413-05:002016-02-01T04:36:23.413-05:00Maddow routinely takes credit for discovering issu...Maddow routinely takes credit for discovering issues that people like Amy Goodman have been covering for years. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-39772828323362894512016-02-01T03:23:08.205-05:002016-02-01T03:23:08.205-05:00So he owns a house and has maybe a pension and a 4...So he owns a house and has maybe a pension and a 401(k) or IRA. That's what $700,000 gets you these days. Hardly close to millionaire-dom.<br /><br />But you knew that, most likely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79011112336559956882016-02-01T00:55:39.400-05:002016-02-01T00:55:39.400-05:00According to Forbes, Bernie Sanders is almost a mi...According to Forbes, Bernie Sanders is almost a millionaire with a net worth of $700,000. He apparently doesn't mind getting his own hands dirty in the ways he decries. A bit hypocritical for a true believer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21121318899210753752016-02-01T00:52:29.167-05:002016-02-01T00:52:29.167-05:00Maddow isn't the only public ignoramus prattli...Maddow isn't the only public ignoramus prattling about the issue. Me niece posted on Facebook a list of half-truths by Michael Moore. My niece lives nowhere near Flint. Why is this issue so important to her? Why is it so important to Rachel Maddow's viewers?<br /><br />I believe the answer is <i>virtue signaling.</i> The originator of the phrase described it as:<br /><i> the way in which many people say or write things to indicate that they are virtuous. Sometimes it is quite subtle. By saying that they hate the Daily Mail or Ukip, they are really telling you that they are admirably non-racist, left-wing or open-minded. One of the crucial aspects of virtue signalling is that it does not require actually doing anything virtuous. It does not involve delivering lunches to elderly neighbours or staying together with a spouse for the sake of the children. It takes no effort or sacrifice at all.</i><br />http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/i-invented-virtue-signalling-now-its-taking-over-the-world/David in Calhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222355423128534221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-71988270972912423182016-01-31T22:48:13.512-05:002016-01-31T22:48:13.512-05:00One layer was certainly 17th century. The 18th cen...One layer was certainly 17th century. The 18th century in him is obvious. There was the 19th century, and a large slice, of course, of the 20th century; and another, curious layer which may possibly have been the 21st.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-18020495823210519852016-01-31T22:43:22.974-05:002016-01-31T22:43:22.974-05:00Another good one Somerby. Nobody keeps Madcow acc...Another good one Somerby. Nobody keeps Madcow accountable like you do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6818043537323617002016-01-31T22:26:37.728-05:002016-01-31T22:26:37.728-05:00For the rest of the evening, Maddow kept letting a...For the rest of the evening, Maddow kept letting activists and political figures describe the need to replace the pipes right now.<br /><br />Maddow had started her town hall meeting with a speech about the need to replace those pipes right now. Maddow isn't an expert on any of this, of course.<br /><br />The politicians thrilled the crowd. The expert wasn't consulted.<br /><br />Maddow began the evening with her own fervent speech. She then played videotape of herself with a master plumber. Maddow isn't an expert on this. But then, neither is the master plumber, except on matters of plumbing. <br /><br />The program started with Maddow, a total non-expert, describing the need for instant action.<br /><br />On videotape, we then saw her touring Flint with a second non-expert. He told her he could scramble a thousand plumbers in support of her action plan. <br /><br />Everybody can be great. Because everybody can serve.<br />You don't have to have a college degree to serve. You don't have to make your subject and your verb agree to serve. You don't have to know about Plato and Aristotle to serve. You don't have to know Einstein's theory of relativity to serve. You don't have to know the second theory of thermodynamics in physics to serve.<br /><br />You only need a heart full of grace. A soul generated by love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com