tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post8837510837737720152..comments2024-03-18T22:49:24.020-04:00Comments on the daily howler: SUSAN RICE CLARIFICATION WATCH: Where does Standard Group Paraphrase come from!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-15266313679025215822021-08-30T05:03:50.134-04:002021-08-30T05:03:50.134-04:00I’m very pleased to discover this site. I want to ...I’m very pleased to discover this site. I want to to thank you for ones time for this particularly wonderful read!! I definitely savored every part of it and i also have you saved as a favorite to see new information on your blog. <a href="https://telegra.ph/JAZZY-GOPS-08-29" rel="nofollow">먹튀검증업체</a><br />UnKnownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03507264326309798144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-78460076037898682152020-12-30T00:44:22.575-05:002020-12-30T00:44:22.575-05:00I see your point, and I really enjoy your opinion....I see your point, and I really enjoy your opinion. It goes without saying I also love the design of your website, extremely artistic. Later.<br />sbobet88 asiahttp://art-deco-classics.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-59356529370152162332020-12-23T04:45:32.157-05:002020-12-23T04:45:32.157-05:00I am lucky that I found this web blog, precisely t...I am lucky that I found this web blog, precisely the right information that I was searching for! <a href="http://arizonaparanormalinvestigations.com/" rel="nofollow">arizonaparanormalinvestigations </a><br />arizonaparanormalinvestigationshttp://arizonaparanormalinvestigations.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5270852281019069992012-11-28T20:55:52.288-05:002012-11-28T20:55:52.288-05:00Thanks for pursuing this -- but it would be great ...Thanks for pursuing this -- but it would be great if you provided links to stuff like the relvant Meet The Press transcript and/or video so people can see for themselves.<br /><br />Here you go: <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49051097/ns/meet_the_press-transcripts/t/september-benjamin-netanyahu-susan-rice-keith-ellison-peter-king-bob-woodward-jeffrey-goldberg-andrea-mitchell/#.ULa9UIb4JWc" rel="nofollow">Transcript of Meet The Press, 9/16/2012</a>Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458361988917811233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54703754899483688112012-11-17T22:59:56.863-05:002012-11-17T22:59:56.863-05:00omigod, what a great question, I'm dying to kn...omigod, what a great question, I'm dying to know the answer, this matters so much!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86874349638479763772012-11-17T08:41:54.919-05:002012-11-17T08:41:54.919-05:00ditto
AC/MAditto<br /><br />AC/MAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-37235418307068024512012-11-17T02:19:22.710-05:002012-11-17T02:19:22.710-05:00Excellent column.
It could very well have been t...Excellent column. <br /><br />It could very well have been the work of a armed group, one of among dozens of their kind jockeying for a upper hand in a war torn political vacuum and on the lookout for a chance to do some damage and make an impact. The degree to which they plotted prior is perhaps anybody's guess, then and now. It may be that under cover of a growing angry crowd, embolden, they saw it as an opportunity to attack. <br /><br />MaxFrostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44394883235751761612012-11-16T23:06:36.268-05:002012-11-16T23:06:36.268-05:00This is the dumbest fake scandal I have ever witne...This is the dumbest fake scandal I have ever witnessed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-44372311022226741052012-11-16T21:27:47.275-05:002012-11-16T21:27:47.275-05:00no its not even close to a lie. You are wrong. I b...no its not even close to a lie. You are wrong. I bet you are wrong on a daily basis. Why do we bother responding to this guy and others like him? As I like to say its just not our job to educate these people. I think it would be a waste of time as this is nowoldguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-25212776843669911602012-11-16T16:42:50.487-05:002012-11-16T16:42:50.487-05:00Just out of curiosity, if the Pres was calling Ben...Just out of curiosity, if the Pres was calling Benghazi a terrorist attack on Sep 12, then why was Rice so much less clear on Sep 16?tinboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12497368524093391053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-29270645180276803822012-11-16T16:07:27.473-05:002012-11-16T16:07:27.473-05:00Close enough to a lie? Yours IS a lie, hers is not...Close enough to a lie? Yours IS a lie, hers is not. You have absolutely no basis for calling that a lie.urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-75515995406041264272012-11-16T15:55:46.830-05:002012-11-16T15:55:46.830-05:00The quote was from the talking points. It's st...The quote was from the talking points. It's still a possibility those talking points alone were given to her with no further suggestion as to what to emphasize and levels of confidence to express. It's possible no discussion took place and she didn't take it upon herself to promote a politically favorable narrative, or "lie." It appears whoever formulated them and issued them to her did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-49515444514647995802012-11-16T15:54:01.737-05:002012-11-16T15:54:01.737-05:00Do you know, even now, if this attack was carried ...Do you know, even now, if this attack was carried out by Al Qaeda elements, or people sympathetic to Al Qaeda? Or some splinter group of Libyan extremists? Hint: If our intelligence knows who it was, do you think they would be going on Fox to publicize to the world what they know?mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-6079025702394653102012-11-16T15:41:31.864-05:002012-11-16T15:41:31.864-05:00well, there you have it
Rice: I have been to Liby...well, there you have it<br /><br /><i>Rice: I have been to Libya and walked the streets of Benghazi myself. And despite what we saw in that horrific incident where some mob was hijacked ultimately by a handful of extremists, the United States is extremely popular in Libya</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-60504247534642593272012-11-16T15:37:25.373-05:002012-11-16T15:37:25.373-05:00You know, there's a reason these hearings are ...You know, there's a reason these hearings are being held behind closed doors. Have you read the classified intelligence given to the Administration at that point in time? Then how the fk do you know it she's lying here?<br /><br />Why don't you try answering Bob's questions?<br /><br /> Puzzle: Presumably, an attack by a terrorist group could be “spontaneous” in some way. But in our Standard Pundit Discussion, this possibility is routinely treated as a contradiction. Why?<br /><br />Puzzle: Presumably, a terrorist group could stage an attack in response to an insulting video. But in our Standard Pundit Discussion, this possibility is generally seen as absurd, though Landler skips this point.<br /><br />mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-53569958844820747832012-11-16T15:25:16.578-05:002012-11-16T15:25:16.578-05:00The currently available information suggests that ...<i>The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the US Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the US diplomatic post in Benghazi and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.</i><br /><br />That's close enough to a lie to call it a lie. That is a statement written by someone not intent on being as accurate as possible but on directing attention away from a known suspicion so that alarm will not be piqued and the whole thing can be swept aside as under investigation until the election clock runs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84414533351258089002012-11-16T15:17:22.872-05:002012-11-16T15:17:22.872-05:00Yes, of course, because we Americans would feel mu...<i>Yes, of course, because we Americans would feel much better if we thought the attack was carried out by extremists with heavy weapons. I pee in my pants every time I hear the name al Qaeda</i><br /><br />Americans would feel better if they thought it was an unavoidable incident involving a spontaneous response to a film as opposed to proof that the terrorist organization that attacked on 9/11 and is known to all Americans is alive and well. It certainly screws up your ability to claim "al Qaeda is on the run."<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-86752416594771435992012-11-16T15:16:27.938-05:002012-11-16T15:16:27.938-05:00Although dismissing them all as "hacks" ...Although dismissing them all as "hacks" is not very constructive or persuasive, MSNBC's feet should be held to the fire on issues like this. However, I don't see a lot of career threat to rising liberals when this fiasco started in pushing back simply be quoting the Rice transcripts (and blaming Fox for the misstatements). It could well have been, rather, concern with raising the profile of the issue, and letting Obama's demolition of Romney in the last debate be the final word on damage to Republicans. Now that the election is over, and, yes, with Obama's helpful signal that Rice is to be defended (and McCain's buffoonery), the MSNBC tone and content on this issue is much more aggressive.urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-41753619699247860132012-11-16T15:13:44.522-05:002012-11-16T15:13:44.522-05:00BOB SCHIEFFER: But you do not agree with him that ...<i>BOB SCHIEFFER: But you do not agree with him that this was something that had been plotted out several months ago?<br /><br />MS. RICE: We do not– we do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.</i><br /><br />"Leads us to conclude". Slick. She omitted information about information leading them ot suspect al Qaeda although she couldn't stop talking about other suspicions about a film and spontaneity. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-4784775336005323232012-11-16T15:11:29.495-05:002012-11-16T15:11:29.495-05:00Yes, of course, because we Americans would feel mu...Yes, of course, because we Americans would feel much better if we thought the attack was carried out by extremists with heavy weapons. I pee in my pants every time I hear the name al Qaeda.<br /><br />Rice: "Whether they were al Qaeda affiliates, whether they were Libyan-based extremists or al Qaeda itself, I think is one of the things we’ll have to determine."<br /><br />It sure as hell looks like she's hiding something, huh?<br /><br />BTW, who the hell said anything was "redacted"? <br /> mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-63198515654677377722012-11-16T15:07:06.384-05:002012-11-16T15:07:06.384-05:00Did you call CNN and complain?Did you call CNN and complain?urban legendnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-5699657921812892612012-11-16T15:02:57.926-05:002012-11-16T15:02:57.926-05:00Given Americans' particular concerns about al ...Given Americans' particular concerns about al Qaeda specifically, it's strange that a mention of al Qaeda would be redacted and avoided in accounts of events in which there was no shortage of speculation including that the attacks were of a "spontaneous" nature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26660409291684064622012-11-16T14:57:46.721-05:002012-11-16T14:57:46.721-05:00" But did Susan Rice say or suggest that the ..." But did Susan Rice say or suggest that the deadly siege “was a spontaneous protest?” Not really, no. She said a spontaneous protest was underway when heavily armed extremists arrived and hijacked events. (Presumably, the killings resulted from that hijacking, not from the earlier protest.) "<br /><br />The problem is there was no spontaneous protest underway.<br /><br />"Did Susan Rice say or suggest that the deadly siege wasn’t “a premeditated terrorist attack?” Not really, no—although this part of the paraphrase has two separate components. First, she rather clearly seemed to say the killings were done by “extremists.” In case that wasn’t strong enough, Schieffer specifically asked her about al Qaeda."<br /><br />As a matter of fact she does suggest that. Rice went on 5 shows that day . She says this started as a spontaneous protest that was hijacked by extremists. Except there was never any protest in Benghaizi.She says to Jake Tapper .... " But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous -- not a premeditated -- response to what had transpired in Cairo".<br /><br />In fact , it began as spontaneous and not premeditated ?<br /><br /> RICE: Well, Jake, first of all, it's important to know that there's an FBI investigation that has begun and will take some time to be completed. That will tell us with certainty what transpired.<br /><br />But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous -- not a premeditated -- response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.<br /><br />We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to -- or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in -- in the wake of the revolution in Libya are -- are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.<br /><br />We'll wait to see exactly what the investigation finally confirms, but that's the best information we have at present. <br /><br /><br /> She also later says that what happened in Benghazi is a direct result of the video.....<br /><br /> TAPPER: It just seems that the U.S. government is powerless as this -- as this maelstrom erupts.<br /><br />RICE: It's actually the opposite. First of all, let's be clear about what transpired here. What happened this week in Cairo, in Benghazi, in many other parts of the region...<br /><br />TAPPER: Tunisia, Khartoum...<br /><br />RICE: ... was a result -- a direct result of a heinous and offensive video that was widely disseminated, that the U.S. government had nothing to do with, which we have made clear is reprehensible and disgusting. We have also been very clear in saying that there is no excuse for violence, there is -- that we have condemned it in the strongest possible terms.<br /><br />But let's look at what's happened. It's quite the opposite of being impotent. We have worked with the governments in Egypt. President Obama picked up the phone and talked to President Morsi in Egypt. And as soon as he did that, the security provided to our personnel in our embassies dramatically increased. President Morsi... <br />http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-us-ambassador-united-nations-susan-rice/story?id=17240933&page=2#.UKaXqYahbYMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-66821447182328796502012-11-16T14:47:12.834-05:002012-11-16T14:47:12.834-05:00Well there you have it. The smoking gun. Petraeu...Well there you have it. The smoking gun. Petraeus said their original talking points said Al Qaeda involvement was "suspected", whereas Susan Rice said it was carried out by extremists and Al Qaeda's involvement was yet to be determined and President Obama said it was terrorism the next day. The only thing we don't know is if Vince Foster's apparent suicide is connected in any way. Impeachment proceedings should commence immediately.<br /><br />mmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-87656299331850203712012-11-16T13:32:20.590-05:002012-11-16T13:32:20.590-05:00Compare the GOP hyperventilation over "Bengha...Compare the GOP hyperventilation over "Benghazigate" with the real 9-11: "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S."<br /><br />In a sane society, these people would be marginalized.<br />~ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©https://www.blogger.com/profile/06252371815131259831noreply@blogger.com