tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post8970286105419851042..comments2024-03-28T15:34:06.948-04:00Comments on the daily howler: GONNA STUDY WAR LOTS MORE: Survey said!<b>bob somerby</b>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02963464534685954436noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-21820662818567258972013-10-11T12:34:17.253-04:002013-10-11T12:34:17.253-04:00So you won't be stewing in your own prejudices...So you won't be stewing in your own prejudices forever, too?<br />Great news. I'm looking forward to the day you stop.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363187757246791754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-79855933935713134202013-10-11T12:30:27.151-04:002013-10-11T12:30:27.151-04:00"The future holds far more discrimination for..."The future holds far more discrimination for blacks as it is already clear that employers prefer to hire immigrants, even immigrants who don't speak English well". <br /><br />Thanks Lionel. I know that makes you happy.<br /><br />LGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52247595401220726132013-10-11T08:48:40.220-04:002013-10-11T08:48:40.220-04:008:31 --- You're not going to bother yourself t...8:31 --- You're not going to bother yourself to know any facts of the case. You will just stew in your own prejudices forever.Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-83830740067885661402013-10-11T08:31:02.354-04:002013-10-11T08:31:02.354-04:00Lieonel
There is no evidence Martin doubled back,...Lieonel<br /><br />There is no evidence Martin doubled back, no evidence Martin attacked Zimmerman. Zimmerman suffered extremely mild injuries, maybe from one or two punches, and instead of fighting back, defending himself, or escaping, he shot Martin to death. If it is ok everytime someone gets a punch or two to go ahead and murder, you can forget about civilized society.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-28392072457032749002013-10-11T07:59:42.546-04:002013-10-11T07:59:42.546-04:001. ??? The sentence is about what Fox "consid...1. ??? The sentence is about what Fox "considers", not whether tea partiers are its core audience. And given that that's pretty much the demographic they've been chasing since they signed on, and certainly served as the mouthpiece of the national tea party "movement" when it sprang up from the artificial turf, I also "think it's safe to say."<br /><br />2. Only you can think not only of putting all "Asians" in one category, then combining them with "at least one other race" (whatever that means).<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-90226746676790027922013-10-11T02:07:11.770-04:002013-10-11T02:07:11.770-04:00A couple of quibbles.
1. Drum wrote, "I t...A couple of quibbles. <br /><br />1. Drum wrote, "I think it's safe to say that Fox considers tea partiers to be its core audience." Is that really the case? I don't know and Drum doesn't know.<br /><br />2. Omission of Asians. Polls like this pretend that America has only two races. In fact, Asian combined with at least one other race make up 5.6% of the population. I wonder how they would answer this question.David in Calnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30986350078338129282013-10-10T22:03:49.283-04:002013-10-10T22:03:49.283-04:00We wait three extra days for a Drum hit and all we...We wait three extra days for a Drum hit and all we get is a discussion of how badly Drum interpreted one badly drafted question on a two year old poll? And all it seems to be doing is serving as the TDH version of Butch Otter...filling space in the middle of a post aimed at bashing bad old Joan Walsh and her nefariously dangerous film critic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-30802038652066349232013-10-10T21:02:29.523-04:002013-10-10T21:02:29.523-04:00We know all this because the police dispatcher cal...We know all this because the police dispatcher call where Zimmerman said Martin was running was recorded and has a time attached to it. Four minutes later, per telephone company records, Martin is on the phone with Jeantel and the phone disconnects.Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-68485282314456652802013-10-10T18:25:11.209-04:002013-10-10T18:25:11.209-04:00On the other hand, ....On the other hand, ....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-45191832510039224852013-10-10T18:21:14.314-04:002013-10-10T18:21:14.314-04:00LG, African Americans are frequently in positions ...LG, African Americans are frequently in positions to discriminate these days because they are no longer relegated to relatively powerless positions, as should be evident from Obama's election. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-52867593769935090072013-10-10T17:41:02.432-04:002013-10-10T17:41:02.432-04:00And we know all this because George hisself told u...And we know all this because George hisself told us.<br /><br />You know, I hope good ol' George doesn't approach you with the deed to a bridge he's selling, cheap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54165288175871158872013-10-10T16:43:30.283-04:002013-10-10T16:43:30.283-04:00The future holds far more discrimination for black...The future holds far more discrimination for blacks as it is already clear that employers prefer to hire immigrants, even immigrants who don't speak English well. Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-55543599004521449412013-10-10T16:39:48.844-04:002013-10-10T16:39:48.844-04:00Anonymous 4:34,
Of course, this is futile as you d...Anonymous 4:34,<br />Of course, this is futile as you did not bother to pay attantion to anything but photos of Trayvon Martin at age 11 and the word "Skittles."<br /><br />Else you would know this as it was brought out very dramatically at the trial:<br /><br />Zimmerman told the dispatcher that Martin ran and then 4 minutes later - per the cell phone logs and testimony of the prosecution witness Jeantel - Martin reappeared.<br /><br />Martin doubled back. It was then that he attacked Zimmerman.<br /><br />Thankfully Zimmerman had the gun and was able to save his life.Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-80658131920202206422013-10-10T16:34:47.397-04:002013-10-10T16:34:47.397-04:00If by "defending yourself" you mean grab...If by "defending yourself" you mean grabbing your gun to chase down a kid who, according to your own words, was running away, then yes. Pretty much only white people thought that.<br /><br />But I remain puzzled by the statement: "White people got an eye opener with the Zimmerman case."<br /><br />Tell me, 3:41. At what point in the Zimmerman case did your eyes spring open?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-82732057055227324662013-10-10T16:06:09.024-04:002013-10-10T16:06:09.024-04:00Well, you know, Anonymous loves to be sarcastic......Well, you know, Anonymous loves to be sarcastic...cacambonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-69941149439083165622013-10-10T15:55:19.990-04:002013-10-10T15:55:19.990-04:00I am stating the fact that African-Americans are (...I am stating the fact that African-Americans are (very) rarely in positions to discriminate against anyone.. <br />They may be resentful against white people. But resentment is not discrimination.<br /><br />Capische?<br />Comprende?<br />Copy?<br /><br />LGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-3531933951797845042013-10-10T15:41:22.503-04:002013-10-10T15:41:22.503-04:00And it was only whites who thought Zimmerman had a...And it was only whites who thought Zimmerman had a right to defend himself? Not true either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-73236493934893390472013-10-10T15:39:15.955-04:002013-10-10T15:39:15.955-04:00LG, are you suggesting that African American peopl...LG, are you suggesting that African American people do not discriminate against other people on the basis of race when in a position to do so? I have seen it happen from my own experience, on a variety of occasions. <br /><br />Your percents (30%, 63%) are the number of people willing to endorse a particular statement worded a particular way. Those numbers do not prove that tea party members are more likely to be racist than Hispanics. Wouldn't it make sense that white people would be more concerned about possible discrimination against white people than members of another racial/ethnic group would be? Is it really racist to be concerned about discrimination aimed at your own group?<br /><br />What seems so clear to you is not. ALL people discriminate against other groups and all hold stereotypes about members of other groups.<br /><br />Capiche is spelled capisce (he understands) or capisci (you understand). Comprende is spelled comprendez.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-34822289464231486712013-10-10T15:09:25.031-04:002013-10-10T15:09:25.031-04:00“Is discrimination against whites now as big a pro...“Is discrimination against whites now as big a problem as discrimination against minority groups?”<br /><br />"In the survey, 63 percent of tea party members answered that question by saying yes. <br />When we look at Drum’s chart, we note a surprising fact:<br /><br />It wasn't just tea party members who answered that question yes. Thirty percent of Hispanics answered that question the same darn way; 29 percent of blacks said the same thing". <br /><br />i.e. Black HR managers refuse to hire white employees because of their race. <br />Black college admissions officers refuse to admit white applicants because of their race. <br />Black store clerks follow white shoppers through establishments because of their race. <br />Black police officers stop and frisk white pedestrians because of their race.<br />Surely (Shirley) you jest!?<br /><br />(Roughly) 30% of blacks and Hispanics equal 63% of tea party members?<br /><br />Capiche. <br />Comprende. <br />Copy.<br /><br />LGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-84437595686037902802013-10-10T14:56:23.042-04:002013-10-10T14:56:23.042-04:00So it was only blacks who thought there was someth...So it was only blacks who thought there was something not quite right with a white guy shooting an unarmed black teen.<br /><br />After all, the white guy came up with a really good story, didn't he?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-54809416871854442432013-10-10T14:52:38.153-04:002013-10-10T14:52:38.153-04:00I agree with Somerby that people shouldn't ans...I agree with Somerby that people shouldn't answer that question. Its asking them to have an opinion off the top of their heads. They didn't bring it up; the survey did.<br /><br />Talk about "racial resentment," though. White people got an eye opener with the Zimmerman case. At all levels including the President and the Attorney General, blacks thought the white (white enough) guy was obligated to let the black teenage delinquent murder him or beat him until he was a vegetable.Lionelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336249052780481883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-27286265123655722482013-10-10T13:11:36.413-04:002013-10-10T13:11:36.413-04:00I'm not better than conservatives because they...I'm not better than conservatives because they're the R-word, racists. <br /><br />I'm just smarter than them because of the M, S, and E-words. I understand Math, Science, and Economics. Pass as many olive branches as you want, Bob, there is no fucking way in the world you can make it look like they do. Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00363187757246791754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-81777733437734289732013-10-10T13:03:16.153-04:002013-10-10T13:03:16.153-04:00Can't tell if sarcasm...Can't tell if sarcasm...Marcushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15389630474070227576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-31101782299709770672013-10-10T13:02:45.885-04:002013-10-10T13:02:45.885-04:00Those academics have obviously never met an asian ...Those academics have obviously never met an asian american over 40 lol...Marcushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15389630474070227576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8611810694571930415.post-26079855679434471502013-10-10T13:00:35.328-04:002013-10-10T13:00:35.328-04:00Goddamn it - have your frothing-at-the-mouth break...Goddamn it - have your frothing-at-the-mouth breakdown already, go into rehab and when you come out either join the Tea Party, or Fox or some such thing.<br /><br />It is totally puke-making that this blogger claims to be a "librul". 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